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Mar 18, 2010 7:00 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well, there goes a lot of characters :/

Although 1 Abh ships versus 12 was crazy enough...

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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Apr 1, 2010 3:03 AM
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Well, there goes a lot of characters :/

Although 1 Abh ships versus 12 was crazy enough...



Pretty sure it was 10 enemies.
Thought they might make it through. The show really did a good job on giving that sense and then pulling the rug from underneath my feat.
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Jun 8, 2010 5:41 AM
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Jul 8, 2010 4:15 AM
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That entire battle was exciting, too bad it had those few cheesy scenes thrown in it too, like the two crewmates who reach for eachother before the ship blows up. Still a very impressive series though, and I can't wait to see how future battles will be like and what direction the story will take now.
Jul 17, 2010 5:16 AM
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That entire battle was exciting, too bad it had those few cheesy scenes thrown in it too, like the two crewmates who reach for eachother before the ship blows up. Still a very impressive series though, and I can't wait to see how future battles will be like and what direction the story will take now.

cheesy, yes, but also realistic. when you realize your ships gonna blow up any second and panicking like a crazy fool isn't going to work anymore, gaining comfort in death is a logical enough thing to do right? that's why I love this show so much. it doesn't over-dramatize things too much - or it does so in ways that aren't melodramatic and forced. Therefore it's so easy to watch without rolling your eyes, or facepalming, etc. there's not enough of shoes like these nowadays.

SHORT VERSION: I LIKE IT A LOT
Oct 26, 2010 9:41 AM
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Great episode, loved the space battle. Lexshue = awesome!
Nov 21, 2010 6:05 AM
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I was very moved. Very very good battle indeed. Better than LotGH in some sense because it portrays the "desperateness" of being outnumbered 10 to 1 in a more realistic manner.
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Feb 9, 2011 1:07 AM
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How does this anime not even have a score of 8.00... The storyline I see is going to be wonderful and for the an anime in the 90s its animation is great. Bah! Haters
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Jun 10, 2011 8:53 AM
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Great episode!

That battle against 10 ships kept me on the edge of my seat. Sadly, when they only had one enemy left, they were destroyed. It's pains me that her mother was the captain who died there.
Nov 7, 2011 12:03 PM

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Whilst it saddens me, I was somewhat sure that would be the end result, otherwise Lafiel & Jinto wouldn't have been evacuated. Even more sure when she started talking about her birth secret.
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Mar 8, 2013 7:26 PM

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Can't say I didn't see this coming, still very said her mother is now dead. Now what will Jinto and Lafiel do?
Nov 14, 2013 3:09 PM

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Yeah . . . Was kind of obvious that the mother was the captain . . . However why does she think she was a daughter born of love? I mean, why did her father never even see his supposed lover?
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Damn it. We didn't even know much about the crew but I'm so upset they're dead. Lexshue T____T

*salutes*
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Mar 15, 2014 2:51 AM

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Wow so the captain was the biological mother of Lafiel. I was hoping for some miracle that they would live but :(........

Very nice battle. I was engaged til the end.

May 20, 2014 1:25 AM

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Wow what a struggle that was, I was stressed out! And an unfortunate loss for Lafiel, seeming as she was close to the troops on that ship.

Bring on the 200 year war!
Apr 15, 2015 5:58 PM
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The whole crew died, i guess plot armor didnt exist back in the 90s. :(
Jan 16, 2016 1:38 AM

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i kind of expected both the happenings of this episode: the captain is lafiel's mother and that the ship would be destroyed, especially the first one simply because when she said that it was someone who has been close to her for a long time (or something to that affect).
Feb 15, 2016 9:34 PM

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Some jerk spoiled the outcome of this episode in the last discussion, so I was robbed of much of the impact of this episode. Ugh. MAL seriously needs heavier punishments for spoiling.

OT: It seems I was right about the Captain being Lafiel's mother. How sad.

I am glad that she got Lafiel off the ship, though.

What now?
Dec 22, 2016 10:00 AM

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rip :( captain was a good character.
was that a 1v10?
hate it when you get ganked
Jan 28, 2017 3:11 PM

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Saw the Captain being Lafiel's mother from a mile away, but the way they revealed that still made me very :(

Battle was pretty intense, I hope we'll get to see more like it.
Sep 5, 2017 12:39 PM

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While predictable, the events in this episode were still very exciting and touching! I really like the pacing so far, it takes its time setting up the background for everything and now in episode 5 we had the first payoff!

If it continues to improve, this might become one of my favorite series. I really like the setting.
Oct 22, 2017 1:08 AM

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Finally a battle, and it was good! I liked just how lethal the weapons were.

That last surviving ship will be limping home.
Dec 22, 2017 8:33 AM

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Wow. Best episode by far. The relationship of Jinto and Lafiel growing stronger and the awesome battle that took place. Sure, we knew the Gosroth crew would not win, but when it came down to the last ship i thought there could be a slight possibility of victory.

I was waiting for Jinto to point out that Lafiel is not useless as she is protecting Jinto, which seems like the most important job.

Excited for the next episode.
Oct 25, 2018 11:42 PM

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Well, that was rather intense. Goodness.
Feb 16, 2019 11:19 AM

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Loved how the humans destroyed those stupid elves. Most elves are completely dead machines inside and deserve to die. It appears some can feel emotion but is rare.
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robotical said:
Saw the Captain being Lafiel's mother from a mile away, but the way they revealed that still made me very :(

Battle was pretty intense, I hope we'll get to see more like it.
yup really obvious when she told Lafiel she must leave based on their reactions.
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Yeah . . . Was kind of obvious that the mother was the captain . . . However why does she think she was a daughter born of love? I mean, why did her father never even see his supposed lover?
Well most elves are dead inside and is the reason why I believe they deserve to be terminated. Now some elves do have love relationships but due to the way their society works the two do not get to stay together for long because each has duties and will be seen as weird. So in a sense she is a child of love, at least the tiny bit of love those creatures can feel.
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It's good that the first battle we saw was a unique hyperspace fight. I've seen so many space battles that a normal one would have been bland.
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What a great episode.
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That battle was insane. No wonder the captain was so ardent about getting Lafiel off Gosroth, considering what happened to it, as well as their relation to each other.

Swarming tactics used by the United Mankind are a nightmare for individual ships. Not only do they have enough of them to completely surround the Gosroth, but they're quickly replenished by replacement ships even if destroyed, and they have enough firepower to penetrate its defences.





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None of the usual anime fluff here. The story takes us to the blood and the bone.
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That was such a cool space battle!

Side note: I've seen much racism in my life, but I've never seen racism against elves before.
They're fictitious creatures, how is this even possible?
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That was such a cool space battle!

Side note: I've seen much racism in my life, but I've never seen racism against elves before.
They're fictitious creatures, how is this even possible?
Bradboy102 said:

Side note: I've seen much racism in my life, but I've never seen racism against elves before.
They're fictitious creatures, how is this even possible?

1) Dis a joke? Abh are not elves.
2) Ever read/played The Witcher?
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Side note: I've seen much racism in my life, but I've never seen racism against elves before.
They're fictitious creatures, how is this even possible?

1) Dis a joke? Abh are not elves.
2) Ever read/played The Witcher?
@Rastrelly I know abh are not elves. I'm not referring to fictitious racism against fictitious creatures, I'm referring to real racism against fictitious creatures.
Look at page 1 of this discussion. There's a guy unironically saying that all elves are dead inside and deserve to be eradicated, misconstruing what abh are as being elves.
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@Rastrelly I know abh are not elves. I'm not referring to fictitious racism against fictitious creatures, I'm referring to real racism against fictitious creatures.
Look at page 1 of this discussion. There's a guy unironically saying that all elves are dead inside and deserve to be eradicated, misconstruing what abh are as being elves.
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Ah, you're about that! Yeah, there is a very odd part of the community who for some reason wholeheartedly believe the UM propaganda. I guess they did a great job at that thing. Other factor is probably the deep political biases of some of the users, who seriously think that the Empire is supposed to be a form of propaganda of Japanese Meiji-era imperialism as well as a pro-eugenics thesis on Morioka's part, while others think that Lafiel's words about same-sex relations and absence of religion in Abh society make the series a woke LGBT propaganda piece made to subvert the good Lo'ds chil'en on dis grean Yueff. Reading/watching sci-fi is hard, I guess.

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