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| Damn, amazing fucking episode. You know what's a crime this? This show not being popular enough, I can't believe this show is not in a lot of people's radar it's so fucking good. There are a lot of good shows this season and this show is high up that list. Can't blame Albert for that shit, his family are a bunch of assholes. Man, when he stabbed original William shit was satisfying as hell. Fuck society and fuck the upper class. Now that their backstory is complete, it's crime consulting time. |
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Qwix101 said: So, we learned how William and Louis got in the moriarty family. Also, it was a real shock when Albert willingly destroyed his own family like that. Even tho they were a bit of scumbags, they were still his family. I understand why Albert want to do such a thing, but just doing it without showing any remorse kind of feels wrong. It makes Albert look like a superficial character who is devoid of general moral code. ...or maybe it's just used as a subtle way for the audience to ponder about the moral of our protagonists actions. idk, maybe it's just how this show is. Doing wrong deeds with right reasons. And that is what makes this show interesting to me. Albert going full troppo |
| Wow, I didn't expect Albert to actually kill his brother. Now they will live on as brothers and I expect them to become crueler as the story goes on. |
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| so that concludes their backstory, Albert switching sides is a little unconvincing but I guess it won't matter much since this is set while they're adults |
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| I had some issues regarding Albert's action but overall it was a nice episodes. Now I'm interested how they are gonna handling Holmes characters. |
| I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. |
| Absolutely incredible episode, Moriarty's childhood/backstory was just so great, he was already a true mastermind with exploding the manor with the gas, I can't wait for the next episode |
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| this is pretty good not gonna lie. I'm interested in this show. I love the themes the show is going for. I mean it is a little hard to believe that Albert could kill his own family so cold heartedly even when he hated them, but other than that, pretty good stuff. Looking forward to more |
| That was fantastic. Love the characters, and I like how the storyline was presented. Based on how the last episode ended, I thought maybe the orphanage was going to catch on fire. I like this much better :)) just three kids trying to make society a better place by killing their parents. fun |
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| I got really excited when I saw the boys touching the gas-lamps because I understood Moriarty's plans. Instead of using a murder method that would be thought of by someone in the modern era, they used something a person from the Victorian era would have thought of, which made the setting feel so much more real. (I know gas fires can still be replicated now, but it was extremely easy to accidentally burn everything with gas back then.) This is like Sherlock Holmes with some elements of horror. I love it so far! The oldest Moriarty is kind of sexy. I love how all three brothers are a type of hero archetype, but they are all messed up in some way. Louis seems the least messed up, but he seared himself without hesitation, so I feel like he'll do something extremely horrific in a later episode. |
| Not going to lie; Albert's family was so over-the-top evil that it felt a bit comical. Still a good episode though. I do like the anti-heroism. |
| This series has been very interesting so far. I didn’t have great expectations but this series is better than what I thought it would be. |
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PoXonn said: And thus they became a family I do have a bit of a concern for Albert and Louis after (older)William smirked in the train after confirming he had a veritable picture, perfect, ideal family. Albert's family had is coming for them, especially the little brat of a brother(William). The pacing is really good, can't wait to see what is next. He smirked because he told the man on the train that he had a loving family and a perfect upbringing when it was all a lie. |
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| Damn... That was so very dark & twisted and yet it was so heartwarming seeing the three boys bind themselves to each other and become a family. Psychopathy has never been so wholesome! |
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| Oh damn! This keeps getting better and better. Amazing show so far. |
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| Very intense but satisfying end to this episode, I cant wait for next week! |
| what an amazing dark episode. last episode got me fooled really hard thought they had all pity backgrounds. Turned out they are all cunning af. |
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| Didn't expect the studio to adapt one chapter into two whole episodes, but it actually worked out pretty well and didn't feel too slow. There was a lot of build-up tension to what the MCs were planning and the execution was beautiful. Only slight disappointment that the mother wasn't there along with William and the piece of wood wasn't shoved into William's mouth, but no biggie. Great adaptation of their past and looking forward to the future episodes! Solid 5/5. |
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| How Albert killed his own brother was really cool... The plan was so well executed. That family was really pissing me off. Can't wait for the next episode. |
| These guys are psychopaths. I don't think I can like any of these guys so far. Where is Sherlock? |
| hmm damn he actually killed his own blodd...damn resolve.... |
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| How could he take over William's place when they look so different? The real William knew some nobles, he had friends that he wanted to invite to his party which means quite some people knew how he looked and the new William looks nothing like him. And are they dumb enough to believe the new William and Louis are not related by blood when they look the same? I'm sorry but logically speaking this would never work. And I was slightly disturbed at Albert stabbing his little brother. He was an ass but still his brother, and a kid. I don't think I understand the people who say it was cool when he did that, or nice or good job like...all I saw was the murder of a dumb kid by his own brother and no, I didn't find it cool at all. These kids indeed seem to be psychopaths, all three. To be honest I see no reason why Albert would care so much about the non-noble people. He grew up in the same environment as his brother, I think it's unrealistic that he would be so invested in the lives of the poor. Kids copy what they see, attitude, opinion...all he was surrounded by were arrogant nobles like his parents. He would probably develope the same attitude. Of course that could change when he got older and met all kind of people and saw poverty and how they are treated, but they said he's been like that since he was little. He's seen through all since a kid? Really? Anyway despite these plot holes/illogical stuff this anime seems decent so far. |
Xerx62Oct 27, 2020 7:46 AM
"If you accept everything you're told without question, you'll lose your ability to think. Even if you reached the same conclusion, it would still be worth analysing the reasons behind it." - Lacie Baskerville, Pandora Hearts |
| Random stranger: It sounds like you had a tRuLY wArm HOuSehOLD. Household:  Moriarty: ... Also Moriarty:  |
| Now that is real good! Really loved the portrayal of Albert‘s disgust on his family and the class-based society, how he saw one solution in his eyes aka William and made up his mind to take that leap. And the night of the murder was so goregeous with the use of red lighting. Kinda curious though, they didn‘t put original William back to his room. Did that not pose some problem to this ~perfect crime~? I guess there weren‘t any investigations and it was just really passed off as an accident? Anyway, it‘s a really great episode. Looking forward to the next ep~ |
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| Damn! That little William deserved it. This show is really gonna rock. |
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| IDK about ya'll but as a former avid Sherlock fan (of both the novels and the TV series), this is going in a new direction and I'm loving it. If there was one thing Sherlock lacked, it was the really dark, gruesome aspect of it all and they really 'killed it' w/ that last episode if you know what what I'm saying |
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Xerx62 said: To be honest I see no reason why Albert would care so much about the non-noble people. He grew up in the same environment as his brother, I think it's unrealistic that he would be so invested in the lives of the poor. Kids copy what they see, attitude, opinion...all he was surrounded by were arrogant nobles like his parents. He would probably develope the same attitude. Of course that could change when he got older and met all kind of people and saw poverty and how they are treated, but they said he's been like that since he was little. He's seen through all since a kid? Really? Most kids do and with a radical range of variation. All kids, like all other people, are different - There isn't a universal way in which they think and feel, or for that matter, learn and manifest their own identities. I find it extremely believable. How old is he? Teenaged age of some variant? (I can't recall right now if it was stated). Even most "normal" teenagers rebel at some point against the prevailing beliefs of their families/community. In the case of those who do so over real ideological and serious principled issues over a sustained period of time from a very young age, it may be uncommon and the minority but not at all impossible. Some people have neurological differences in that their brain chemistry effectively puts them on a different wavelength and frequency than most around them. Some grow up feeling very alienated from and antagonistic toward the prevailing lifestyle/beliefs of their own family, community, and culture from close to the beginning of their lives, either because of intrinsic brain/biological differences or because of undergoing some inciting event or both. It really is not even a fantastical or that farfetched a phenomenon; probably just something not commonly talked about or well understood as it's a touchy issue that gets into the nature vs. nurture debate, consciousness, and what it means to come from a family and be raised in a certain community; identity issues like this often split families apart irreparably and the nucleus and catalyst of it can very much be in youth. Brothers of the same family have gone on to serve different sides of a war. It's an uncomfortable truth for many the extent to which many children can be different from their parents and from one another as siblings. Two siblings raised in the same environment can see wide and early divergence - one becoming a derelict and drug addict and the other a nuclear physicist. |
WatchTillTandavaOct 29, 2020 4:01 PM
| CLAP CLAP CLAP! The whole episode is just perfection! gets better and better! great job IG Prod! 5/5! |
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WatchTillTandava said: Most kids do and with a radical range of variation. All kids, like all other people, are different - There isn't a universal way in which they think and feel, or for that matter, learn and manifest their own identities. I find it extremely believable. How old is he? Teenaged age of some variant? (I can't recall right now if it was stated). Even most "normal" teenagers rebel at some point against the prevailing beliefs of their families/community. In the case of those who do so over real ideological and serious principled issues over a sustained period of time from a very young age, it may be uncommon and the minority but not at all impossible. Some people have neurological differences in that their brain chemistry effectively puts them on a different wavelength and frequency than most around them. Some grow up feeling very alienated from and antagonistic toward the prevailing lifestyle/beliefs of their own family, community, and culture from close to the beginning of their lives, either because of intrinsic brain/biological differences or because of undergoing some inciting event or both. It really is not even a fantastical or that farfetched a phenomenon; probably just something not commonly talked about or well understood as it's a touchy issue that gets into the nature vs. nurture debate, consciousness, and what it means to come from a family and be raised in a certain community; identity issues like this often split families apart irreparably and the nucleus and catalyst of it can very much be in youth. Brothers of the same family have gone on to serve different sides of a war. It's an uncomfortable truth for many the extent to which many children can be different from their parents and from one another as siblings. Two siblings raised in the same environment can see wide and early divergence - one becoming a derelict and drug addict and the other a nuclear physicist. I get that I just meant that the amount of hatred he had just seemed too much. And what I found unrealistic, was that part where he said even since he was a kid he hated the nobility and they showed him as a literal child. I'm sure a child will not look at his parents and think something like: I hate them so much they are so unfair and disgusting. Also to have such hatred that could lead to him murdering his brother by his own hands and burning his parents alive...it just seems way too much for anyone sane, but again, he probably isn't sane. But maybe his parents didn't give him enough love when he was a kid and that could lead to him hating them from a young age so I don't know. I'm probably thinking with my head in the modern times, I know back then things were different. I know people casually murdered their family members in the past but that doesn't mean they were okay in the head though. But I guess it could be the reality of the past. |
Xerx62Oct 30, 2020 1:55 PM
"If you accept everything you're told without question, you'll lose your ability to think. Even if you reached the same conclusion, it would still be worth analysing the reasons behind it." - Lacie Baskerville, Pandora Hearts |
| Definitely one of the best shows this season.Thank you Production I.G. This is honestly good stuff. Can't wait for next week's episode. |
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| Another interesting episode for this series. Ideals leading to fratricide..... not one that I have seen a lot in anime. This does make it a good psychological series. I still like the art work in the backgrounds. Nicely done! |
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| Very good episode, loved the fact Albert killed his own brother (or at least delivered the lethal blow), it showed a real resolve indeed. Now the prologue is over and we can eventually enter the real story of Moriarty the Patriot : this sure caught my attention |
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| I'm glad Albert actually had to get his hands dirty, and this episode actually showed the boys planning and carrying out this arson / mass murder. One of the things I didn't like in episode 1 was how the kill happened off camera, and the cover up wasn't shown at all, because that really lessens the weight of what they're doing. This episode was a relief. I wasn't sure if the whole show was going to constantly skim over the "dirty" parts and miss the point of having a classic villain as the mc. For Albert to actually have to look his brother in the eye as he kills him, then leave him to die slowly to inhale smoke as part of the plan, then we actually get to see the three boys go around the estate and set up the gas leaks and explosion - that's what makes the final result worthwhile. What I didn't like was just how hilarious over-the-top the parents, younger brother, and even butler were portrayed in their classist rants. It was getting pretty ridiculous. Guess the writer was really painting it on thick so no one would feel bad about their murders. I would have preferred the rich people to not be so in-your-face and for the 3 boys to be further in the morally darker grey zone. I'm interested in how Moriarty prefers to give people the opportunity to carry out their own crime rather than do it himself. So far he has always been the mastermind but never the one to directly get blood on his hands. I want to see if he ever carries out a kill directly. |
whitherOct 31, 2020 9:12 PM
| Pretty cool episode the perfect crime was really well done. I was expecting a bit more darkness but this was fine. |
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| That was sick. I really didn't expect him to stab his own brother like that. I just figured he would have instigated the plan but let the kids do the work. This was pretty much everything I wanted from this episode. Really good shit. |
| I was hoping he'd stab the orange-haired brat with the fork but that ending made up for it. |
| Albert gave no fucks. Killed his entire family. |
| Fuck yeah, eat the rich, gentlemen |
| That's what you get William, (the bastard) I get why Albert feels really frustrated over his family. I have a feeling that it will end that way. But the manor is really big so they lost a goodd fortune there. |
  ★━━─ 𝘏𝘰𝘸 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘐 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘺 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘵? 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘥𝘢𝘺? |
| It reminds me of Death Note but they're SO WRONG!!!!!! I understand Albert but killing your family??!! THAT'S SO INSANE!! that's his family but he choose the 2 brothers.. it's very very wrong. Even his idea is nice, but the means is bad.. it's still BAD! 1/5 because of killing of his family, even if his family did bad things, they didn't deserve to be killed, all things he have comes from his parent, he should remember that :( to brother William, he's a spoiled brat but he can be changed if they give him a chance. |
erenmeiiDec 3, 2020 8:42 PM
| Proverbs 4:23 Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it. |
| Even though the dad seemed like a pretty good person by aristocrat standards, Albert burned down their mansion killing his entire family in the process just because they were prejudiced? He's far worse than they were. |
| A well deserved ending for the Moriarty family. Rot in hell the other William. He was even worse than scum. |
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