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| Not going to lie, I am impressed by Ron's plan that came together and ultimately allowed them to discover the culprit. He has very much matured and improved since his debut. However, the catch of this case was also set up to trap Ron. It was an eerie episode as the case seems to have a more complex mastermind behind it all. Definitely the best case in this show so far imo. |
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| And there you have it. The case is closed. Overall, this case has been quite intriguing, and the ending adds an interesting touch. Gathering those involved, Toto reveals the truth behind the incident orchestrated by Ron. Finally, the name of the culprit is disclosed. In response to the culprit's objections, Toto systematically exposes the mysteries of the tricks one after another. The resigned culprit contemplates taking their own life, but in their final moments, they unveil that this incident was a trap targeting Ron and hint at the presence of a mastermind behind the scenes. And I couldn't help but wonder why they didn't just portray Ron as a Sherlock, considering that this character is in the public domain. The hints suggesting that he is a descendant of Sherlock Holmes were accurate, but it seems there's also a connection to James Moriarty, and perhaps even someone else. By "someone else," they likely meant James Moriarty, given the fitting generational and age differences, but it's doubtful that someone from the Moriarty family would phrase it in that manner. So, could he be a descendant of another famous character from the public domain? |
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| The case of the island murder, now claiming a BLUE instructor, the culprit must be covering his/her tracks well. Toto rounding out the murderer where John Grizzly claims his fall to death from the rooftop, to deduce that it's Director Jumonji, Toto laid out each and every detail of the nook and cranny that he did, includiong the locked room trick and the fishing line which had been placed to kill any unsuspecting person, then used to kill Grizzly, which the lights were a giveaway. The real plot behind the island's unsolved case lies with his dad who killed everyone with the same gun, Ron had unconsciously gone to his own sleuthing, but had secrets of his own that Ron wanted to ask him, which he had drugged himself with potassium cyanide to rule it a suicide. To Ron, Jumonji is just one person in a string of sequences that their case dug deeper than he could ever imagine, it was like the murder case 5 years ago, with his neck scar mark being drawn on the culprit's surroundings. That's how Ron came to be, being framed for the Bloody Training Incident and being drawn the neck mark. The truth is that Jumonji was am actor to the House of M, which his family has deep ties of rivalry in the similar vein of Sherlock Holmes and James Moriarty. A sub of the two, who is the House of M that Ron is dealing with of a complex family relationship? |
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| this was really a great episode, i was not expecting something like that, now i'm really excited to see more... |
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| Wants to live in peace, have 10 years to dispose of all evidence, like disassembling the gun and throwing parts in the sea. Keeps the gun for some reason, now have to kill someone, make shady deals, and get killed. Always the Sherlock/Moriarty deal when is an detective story. |
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| A little bit clumsy with the motivations of the culprit, but I like the twist at the end, I think that saved it for me. Seems like there's more mystery surrounding Ron, and I like that this case will tie in with the greater plot at hand here. I don't really think the Sherlock/Moriarty relation is very necessary, but it'll make for some interesting family dynamics I guess. |
| Disappointing conclusion, very weak motive but I guess the main point of the mystery was to set up Ron going after this new mysterious organisation. Also the idol's alibi didn't add up with the timing of the lights being destroyed and that wasn't mentioned this episode so I guess we just have to assume that was a mistake. And Ron is a descendant of Holmes and Moriarty apparently. Mystery writers really can't help linking everything back to Holmes, the detective school was a more original concept I would've liked to have seen explored more. |
| The plot thickens! I still want to know the details on that scar. Makes sense that the director of the observatory would have outside help, all of those tricks were a bit too precise and no offense to him but he doesn't seem like he could pull that off. not really a fan of the sherlock/moriarty references. I'd rather the work stand on its own. Like we went from original to derivative at light speed. |
StateofOhayoNov 27, 2023 10:10 AM
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| Suddenly more pretty boys appear, huh? Well... can't say it was wholly unexpected, but that's some turn of events still. |
| I love Ron and toto’s bromance. They’re a great pair. This better get a season 2 |
| Holy shit so the Moriarty and Sherlock theories were right! After undead girl last season we get more of the legendary criminal and detective’s rivalry. I like how in this case, Ron is a descendent of both meaning he has a predisposition to solve as well as commit crimes. Could explain his ability to make people kill themselves I felt like the Onodera and Grizzley case was a little weak. Orihime’s alibi didn’t really make sense, yet they never really touched on it. Also, dude had 10 years to dispose of any evidence, but he keeps the gun? Case basically was a set up to introduce the house of M and show who’s pulling the strings behind the scenes. I kinda wish they’d stuck to the detective school set up as opposed to rehashing the Moriarty and Sherlock trope, but it is what it is. Yea no way that dude was surviving after being brought out there on a boat in the middle of the ocean. Knew he was a dead man as soon as he came out that body bag lol. If the house of M can easily infiltrate places like that, this’ll be interesting. |
Marinate1016Nov 27, 2023 12:06 PM
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| A girl flawlessly mimicking the face, the body build and the voice of an old man... Right... 🤦🏽♀️ So Kamonohashi is an ancestor of both Sherlock Holmes and James Moriarty. And he appears to have been hexed 5 years ago by House of M with that mark, to hypnotize -enough with that "pressure" BS already...- killers to kill themselves. Or the hex/mark makes his Moriarty genes more dominant and this is an ability all members of House of M, starting with James Moriarty, have? It looks like everyone but the space observatory director himself knew he was going to be killed. Why leave him alive for Ron to find him later and spill the beans? He was a loose end. |
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| Well this one certainly went places I wasn’t expecting, starting with the true culprit being Jumonji (not the movie lol), I guess the cutesy and flashy youtube girl took my attention away from the more likely culprit, now I feel bad for thinking it was her because her moment with Toto was cute in this one lol, but yeah kinda like the weird hair guy it just seemed like Jumonji was existing, boy was I wrong lol. And looks like this case is tying into the overarching plot which we haven’t known much about till now, and it’s very cool to find out that Ron is not only a descendant of Sherlock Holmes, but also James Moriarty, two big names in the mystery genre, and they also have me wanting to rewatch “Kabukicho Sherlock” now lol. And I had a feeling they were going to off Jumonji once he spilled the beans, this dude was silly for thinking some massive underground crime syndicate would just let him go lol. But with the appearance of these new villains and more info on why Ron has this weird power, this is definitely getting more and more interesting than it already was, and I’m glad Toto is sticking around no matter how wild it gets lol. |
TheColonel76Nov 27, 2023 5:01 PM
| I think they adapted this case pretty well. (Despite the logical issues I already had when reading the manga) but they filled in some blanks so it helped a little bit with the flow in my opinion. I really got goosebumps when the music started and Ron said he would continue his work as detective to find out who framed him for that bloody murder case and to find out more about his condition and the connections. That was a great choice for BG music. Speaking of great choices by the studio... They really nailed the voice casting for all the characters pretty well! The "plot twist" really got me in the manga. (Actually more than one twist). To think that the director faked his suicide just to be killed... And we finally find out about Ron's origins. Japan really loves Sherlock Holmes and to include him in their works of fiction one way or another but I personally don't mind since I'm a fan of Holmes too. I think it's really interesting to follow a character who seems to be a descendant of both; Holmes and Moriarty (however that works). Do I think Sir Arthur Conan Doyle would be happy about this? Probably not... Or maybe... Then again I've seen adaptations doing much dumber stuff with his creation and like I've said. It's an interesting concept and it adds to Ron's character which was established pretty well up to this point. Also I've noticed something about Toto. While I'd still wish more depth to his character as well it's nice to see how he got used to be Ron's spokesman by now. He also seems more confident presenting the results from the investigation. Also only 4 episodes left TT___TT. I already know I need a second season! |
Wildflower3Nov 27, 2023 7:11 PM
You're the light shining over The black and gloomy nights So long I've been waiting To run into your arms Oh, my only one desire You're the one I need Through the thousand years ~ Evermore "Midnight Sun" by AleXa |
| After watching the other anime which is named Moriarty the Patriot, this plot twist makes things quite interesting. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| all that just to get killed in the end anyways. |
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| LETS GO MY BOI NATSUOKA AS THE ANTAG YOOOOOOOOOO also yea glad this ep fionally fcking made the shitty tvtrop editors realise winter was a girl and the manga tl just sucks complete balls |
| reiwa weebs will unironically tell u they want a remake or sequel but when they get it ,its suddenly souless and a cashgrab cause they dont like the thing anymore and cant fathom they grew out of it and must mean the show somehow became bad |
| A new characters introduced. They must be the antagonist huh? At first he just look like a blond Ron... Guess maybe because they related to Ron after all... Nice case... 3 episodes for this plot related case. Hope for more interesting case soon. |
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why am I being notified for this when it's not even something I'm watching
| @SewerBrat because its that good you should be watching |
| While I thought the culprit would be one of the guys I did not expect him to fake his own suicide and then be ended out at sea shortly thereafter. Also I thought this case was good except for Jumonji's reasoning for killing the first character since he had a lot of time to get rid of the gun. Now it looks like we're getting into Ron's personal story and with 4 episodes remaining I think this could end in a cliffhanger. |
| Ahh I got most of it right. I was a little at a loss on how the gun was set up and I was off on the motive thinking this guy killed his dad and those other people before but every other detail I was spot on. I guess maybe Ron was hypnotized before ? Though that doesnt explain what's up with his eyes unless it is some weird contacts he doesnt even know he has in lol |
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| Very good episode (finally !!!). |
| OH SNAP....Did they JUST name drop Moriarty AND Holmes? And Ron's their descendant? Mind is blown. |
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| Well darn... way to follow in your father's foot steps I guess. The trick was interesting. Haven't seen fishing line be used like this since old school Detective Conan. Just when Jumonji had something more to say he ends biting the dust himself. If he really wanted some peace and to cover up what happened there he shouldn't have invited people. Only the Lord of Crime could put one over on Ron like this and for that to be the meaning behind his scar is surprising. I guess this is where the real story begins. Wonder what BLUE are going to do. Also, I wonder if they knew about his bloodline. And who the heck are his parents because somebody must have had some Romeo Juliet romance. |
| Notice: I read most manga in Japanese now so I'm not sure where you can read in English. Sorry in advance. |
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Alfredo-Sauce said:
While I thought the culprit would be one of the guys I did not expect him to fake his own suicide and then be ended out at sea shortly thereafter. Also I thought this case was good except for Jumonji's reasoning for killing the first character since he had a lot of time to get rid of the gun.
Now it looks like we're getting into Ron's personal story and with 4 episodes remaining I think this could end in a cliffhanger.
While I thought the culprit would be one of the guys I did not expect him to fake his own suicide and then be ended out at sea shortly thereafter. Also I thought this case was good except for Jumonji's reasoning for killing the first character since he had a lot of time to get rid of the gun.
Now it looks like we're getting into Ron's personal story and with 4 episodes remaining I think this could end in a cliffhanger.
I agree on the disposal of the gun part. But also, she probably was figuring out more about the mass murder not just from the gun yk in those 10y. Also, I wonder why did they invite grizzley-san in the first place. What was the motive unless I missed something out
| @Gabija222 My guess as to why they brought out Grizzley-san was to see if Jumonji could actually get Ron arrested for the setup or maybe its to send a message from Ron's family members to BLUE, we'll see. |
| I figured out Ron was related to Sherlock Holmes a few episodes ago. I thought he had an unknown enemy that would be a descendant of Moriarity, but it never occurred to me that he Ron was a descendant of both. That explains the 96 on his neck. |
| My first reaction when I knew that Ron is a descendant of Holmes and Moriarty: How in the world did these two get married? lmao |
| The buildup is always better than payoff in this series. I mean the director of observatory should be that one person they wouldn't have presented as the culprit. For all we knew, he was doing this to redeem his father's name, but then the sudden revelation of his father being the killer of those murders from a decade ago.. for reasons unknown, and then the director trying to cover up was quite weak honestly. Anyways, the twist in the end was quite surprising, not because we were introduced to some alphabet criminal family, but because all of a sudden they've name-dropped holmes and moriarty, and Ron's history with them... what??? Lol. |
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| police with closed eyes are always bad news!!! 4/5. |
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