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Dec 2, 2012 9:00 AM
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O, so there's a mastermind behind this. Well, that's not too surprising imo.

Well, I enjoyed this latest episode especially when everyone came together in their mecha. I can see that some of the guys from the team still feels anxious but episode was enjoyable. I feel sorry for Inia though because she's under attack and so scared :(

I'm excited for next time's episode as well because of an upcoming fight between dem mecha.



Dec 2, 2012 9:00 AM
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Fighting back time (or rather, to gether info.). Older twin wanting to search for younger twin, who is alone and afraid, asap. It seems like US team sees younger twin as one of a target for some purpose.

Inada-san's character is the boss? Russia leader is claiming that US team involves it.
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Dec 2, 2012 11:26 AM
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There has to be a second season or OVA or something as there is no way they can get back to the BETA plot. Especially if were about to have a showdown at A207 or something.
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Dec 2, 2012 11:53 AM
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Can't believe this is ending in 2 more episodes ]:
But I can't wait for the next one, I wanna see Yuuya and Yui kick ass.
Dec 2, 2012 12:16 PM
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i like how takamura is taking charge. she seems to know all the military tactics. they still havent shown how good shes become with her TSF (same with the russian twins)
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Dec 2, 2012 12:22 PM
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Two more episodes...doesn't look like we'll be seeing much BETA action =/. Really hope they make a season 2 or something for this.
Dec 2, 2012 12:29 PM
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So Inia was saved by the F-22 unit which are now in a covered operation question is why weren't they at the base in the first place it's like the United States knew a attack was coming.
As the Russian commander mentioned however he could also be after the technology of the units there currently using.
It also didn't take much effort for Lt Cui and Cryska to obtain a unit from the Argos flight they didn't have much choice tho, and it also didn't take long for Yui to get her unit.

What's more we finally get to see Yui in action again it's been awhile since we saw her fight and she seems like a good commander.
Hope we will see more of her next episode.
Dec 2, 2012 12:40 PM
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Em. There are 3 eps left. 19.5 doesn't count.
Dec 2, 2012 12:48 PM
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Looks like things are getting messy.

Can't wait for the battle there.
Dec 2, 2012 12:51 PM
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I like Yui much better as the take charge officer than the Yamato Nadeshiko in distress.

I wonder if it really is the American's behind all this. The bishoujo dude with the red hair seemed pretty independent to me. Let's see who really pulls the strings here.

I'm guessing that this will be the last arc of this series and there might be something afterwards to close the deal against the BETA? I wonder if Yui and Yuuya will get together then.
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Dec 2, 2012 1:11 PM

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I'm going to guess this is going to end in a cliffhanger. Considering there are only 2 more episodes, they'll end it probably after revealing who's in charge of the revolution. It may be America since the Infinities are after Inia. Inia may be needed in some sort of experiment for the war. There are many possibilities on who's behind all this. Great episode though. The TSFs fighting each other in reality, without the virtual guiding, is pretty damn awesome. Too bad the series would end before they could end the story.
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More action is always good :) But the show is ending soon and well... things don't look like they'll wrap up that nicely right now.
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Dec 2, 2012 1:15 PM

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Only 3 episodes left... hopefully they will be able to wrap this up without screwing up.

Dec 2, 2012 2:21 PM

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More great quality scenes in the following:


Someone got really lazy there.
Dec 2, 2012 2:52 PM

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i think its really american behind all of this.. and thats what natalie is trying to say b4 she got headshot.. wew nice ep.. lots of mecha.. and yui on her Takemikazuchi is a bad ass..

Dec 2, 2012 3:08 PM

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Those damn Americans only looking out for themselves(I'm From the US so nobody attack me). Ha ha I wouldn't be surprised if we did do something like this. Back on track, good episode actually best in a while. I hope they save inia soon because she looks to be helpless without cryska. Only a few episodes left, kinda sad because muv luv is one of the best Iv seen in a while.

One last thing, those suits that the girls wear really need to have some support added to them.
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Dec 2, 2012 3:15 PM

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man all of the episodes seem like fillers until the previous 2......... :|

By far one of the better episodes yet lol

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Many don't understand that the goal of Total Eclipse is not to show the war against the BETA. This will never be shown in Total Eclipse in any season. The reason is that this is a spin-off of the main series Muv-Luv Alternative.

Only if one day Muv-Luv Alternative turn into anime (which I doubt, considering that is the last of a trilogy) is that you will see the end of the fight against the BETA.
Dec 2, 2012 4:50 PM

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The bouncing boobs seemed to have returned this episode.

And Yui has suited up while being all captain-like. Delicious!
Dec 2, 2012 5:44 PM

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Kurogashi said:
The bouncing boobs seemed to have returned this episode.

And Yui has suited up while being all captain-like. Delicious!


Just can't help that they wanted the TSF and had to use UNs suits though :3
Dec 2, 2012 6:05 PM

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More great quality scenes in the following:


Someone got really lazy there.


Fuck dat.....they blessed us with gorgeous boob jiggle motion. To hell with the quality...
Dec 2, 2012 6:54 PM

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Thanos_ said:
Many don't understand that the goal of Total Eclipse is not to show the war against the BETA. This will never be shown in Total Eclipse in any season. The reason is that this is a spin-off of the main series Muv-Luv Alternative.

Only if one day Muv-Luv Alternative turn into anime (which I doubt, considering that is the last of a trilogy) is that you will see the end of the fight against the BETA.


Just cause it is a spin-off doesn't mean it can't show some fights with the BETAs that don't directly impact the original story too much... I mean when you see the first two episodes, you would assume that fighting BETAs would be the majority of the plot so they really should commit to it a bit more.

I also see that the LN for the Total Eclipse story only had 4 volumes...yea doesn't look like we will be getting more of this. I can tell i'm not gonna get enough closure by the end of this anime =/
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Good action, the suits are tighter and the chests are larger, getting unbelievable! Unfamiliar TSFs being used in these emergency situations. Finally getting good again (first 2-3 were quite good) and now just two or three episodes left! Wrapped up or hanging? Still lots of girls for Yuuya to choose from, perhaps the harem will finally get thinned out next week.
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I have a feeling that there will be a second season. Maybe a even a 12 eps one? This season seems to have enough sales to warrant a 2nd season.

There's just too much left to tie up in the next 3 episodes. I'm still waiting for that awkward kiss between Yuuya and Yui.
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Somehow I get the impression that the Japanese doesn't like us very much. Making the U.S into the bad guy in this series feels like Japan hates us in some ways. It's like they are implying something but I can't figure out what exactly. I mean the comment "America plays the victim and has done so many times" is like saying U.S I don't like you so I am going to rip on you via anime. Well Japan you aren't that innocent either ya prick. :P
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Dec 2, 2012 9:23 PM

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Somehow I get the impression that the Japanese doesn't like us very much. Making the U.S into the bad guy in this series feels like Japan hates us in some ways. It's like they are implying something but I can't figure out what exactly. I mean the comment "America plays the victim and has done so many times" is like saying U.S I don't like you so I am going to rip on you via anime. Well Japan you aren't that innocent either ya prick. :P


Wel it's usually the Russians that are bad , probably a reverse in that thought there :P
Dec 2, 2012 9:46 PM
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USA FUCK YEA!!

LOL but nah, they never really said it was the Americans, remember its the Russian dude who mentioned that it "might" be the Americans

Also, when they say "Americans" do they just mean USA? i mean with all the alliances mentioned in this anime (like the African Union, EU, Mideast and RLF) do we just assume Americans means just USA? maybe Canada AND Mexico is part of the "Americans"?
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USA FUCK YEA!!

LOL but nah, they never really said it was the Americans, remember its the Russian dude who mentioned that it "might" be the Americans

Also, when they say "Americans" do they just mean USA? i mean with all the alliances mentioned in this anime (like the African Union, EU, Mideast and RLF) do we just assume Americans means just USA? maybe Canada AND Mexico is part of the "Americans"?


Canada is Canada, Mexico is Mexico, USA is USA in this setting. It's only the frontline nations that form alliances to better pool their resources. The RLF is a one-time terrorist organization that draws manpower from refugee camps all over the world and into Yukon. Considering that they know about the BETA research facilities under Yukon, this means that their backer has to be someone related to one of the world superpower blocks.

Add to that is that the Soviet side of the base is compromised too; if you remember the earlier episodes, Yuuya, who was under the protection of both the UN and US, nearly got his veins filled with weird shit by Soviet MPs. For anyone to break into the Soviet side, let alone go undercover as non-Russian Soviets, would imply that the RLF is a pretty big underground organization.

BULLDOG266 said:
Somehow I get the impression that the Japanese doesn't like us very much. Making the U.S into the bad guy in this series feels like Japan hates us in some ways. It's like they are implying something but I can't figure out what exactly. I mean the comment "America plays the victim and has done so many times" is like saying U.S I don't like you so I am going to rip on you via anime. Well Japan you aren't that innocent either ya prick. :P


All dat meta in the post non-withstanding...

It's not like the US has no prior knowledge. Taking away Sandek's Cold War-vision for a moment, for the Infinities to be out of Yukon, be fitted with live ammo on a supposed "exercise", hiding in the forest to avoid detection and to be just in the trench when Idar Flight was passing by is an impossible coincidence. And the US has nothing to lose if Yukon goes down; it's a UN holding, not a US one, and by weakening the UN side and letting the Soviet side slide into oblivion the US wins in some form.

With the Infinities being the only other fully-equipped flight, and the XFJ pilots outgunned by two full battalions of stolen TSFs (36 F-16 Fighting Falcons from the UN side, 36 MiG-29 Lastochkas from the Soviet side), Sandek's assumptions are reasonable enough.

Think about it. The J-10Xs are high-maneuverability units and Bao-Feng Flight aren't pushovers; the Infinities took them out like it was nothing. Those stolen second-generation TSFs are hardly going to be a threat; a slave control system isn't a match for a third-generation manned stealthed TSF. Being the only flight to possess TSFs outfitted specifically for anti-TSF combat in this dire situation does cast a light of suspicion over the US.
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Yup we have cried many time befor and down some low down stuff, also the bounce in deem suits how can something so tight bounce? not thiat i mine tho.


hope that brown chick gets shot, she piss's me off for some reason.
Dec 3, 2012 12:17 AM

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Yup we have cried many time befor and down some low down stuff, also the bounce in deem suits how can something so tight bounce? not thiat i mine tho.


hope that brown chick gets shot, she piss's me off for some reason.


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Dec 3, 2012 12:19 AM

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it's good they are explaining a bit about who backed up the RLF terrorist at least that part is cleared and is good that Yuuya and the gang are kicking butt still I'm confused, what happened to the whole BETA invasion ?? Aren't those thing a threat why would they fight against each other ?? Maybe whatever that secret lab with a lot of BETA contained can explain !?!
Dec 3, 2012 6:29 AM
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Why do I think that this ain't them BETA's anymore and it kinda looks like it is them RLF who are the new baddies?
Dec 3, 2012 6:34 AM

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The bouncing boobs seemed to have returned this episode.

And Yui has suited up while being all captain-like. Delicious!


I felt something was missing indeed ^^
Dec 3, 2012 10:30 AM
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The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
Thanos_ said:
Many don't understand that the goal of Total Eclipse is not to show the war against the BETA. This will never be shown in Total Eclipse in any season. The reason is that this is a spin-off of the main series Muv-Luv Alternative.

Only if one day Muv-Luv Alternative turn into anime (which I doubt, considering that is the last of a trilogy) is that you will see the end of the fight against the BETA.


Just cause it is a spin-off doesn't mean it can't show some fights with the BETAs that don't directly impact the original story too much... I mean when you see the first two episodes, you would assume that fighting BETAs would be the majority of the plot so they really should commit to it a bit more.

I also see that the LN for the Total Eclipse story only had 4 volumes...yea doesn't look like we will be getting more of this. I can tell i'm not gonna get enough closure by the end of this anime =/


You didn't really get his point. The point is that the whole purpose of Total Eclipse was never to focus on the BETAs. Instead, it is focused on the human conflicts.

To be honest, I couldn't care less about the BETAs. I am more interested in the struggling powers between humans even though there is the impeding doom.

I mean for instance in Muv Luv Unlimited the Day After, a great emphasis is put in the war between humans to get the last few resources in the post-Day scenario.
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Dec 3, 2012 11:54 AM

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I know it's kinda annoying for new watchers, but that's the consequence that you should know before watching Total Eclipse...A side story of a bigger series.

The conflict between Human and BETA won't be resolved in this series...
It's not even scratched the surface yet. The BETA in the orginal trilogy are much more nightmarish than in here, since in here they are still "mob of strange aliens that seems to like to destroy anything without any sense of thinking and purpose".

But of course, they should have resolved the conflicts around protagonists and Argos flight here. I have no idea about they idea to resolve this, so let's just wait. I hope they will give a satisfying resolution for a side story.
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The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
Thanos_ said:
Many don't understand that the goal of Total Eclipse is not to show the war against the BETA. This will never be shown in Total Eclipse in any season. The reason is that this is a spin-off of the main series Muv-Luv Alternative.

Only if one day Muv-Luv Alternative turn into anime (which I doubt, considering that is the last of a trilogy) is that you will see the end of the fight against the BETA.


Just cause it is a spin-off doesn't mean it can't show some fights with the BETAs that don't directly impact the original story too much... I mean when you see the first two episodes, you would assume that fighting BETAs would be the majority of the plot so they really should commit to it a bit more.

I also see that the LN for the Total Eclipse story only had 4 volumes...yea doesn't look like we will be getting more of this. I can tell i'm not gonna get enough closure by the end of this anime =/


You didn't really get his point. The point is that the whole purpose of Total Eclipse was never to focus on the BETAs. Instead, it is focused on the human conflicts.

To be honest, I couldn't care less about the BETAs. I am more interested in the struggling powers between humans even though there is the impeding doom.

I mean for instance in Muv Luv Unlimited the Day After, a great emphasis is put in the war between humans to get the last few resources in the post-Day scenario.


They could of fooled me ... I don't think you get what i'm trying to say either. I'm trying to say that the way the show presents itself makes it look like the series would revolve around the BETA, but it does not, which is extremely irritating for those who fell for the trap known as the first two episodes of this show. So my point is that they did not build up the whole human conflict thing too well.

Although i don't totally hate where this show is going. Mechs vs Mechs is cool as well.
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So no more BETAs again, that sucks, too late to drop it i guess.

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i wonder where the rest of the idlar test flight are. I also wonder if they are the same as Crsyka and Inia
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Ofc US is the bad guy. Pretty standard for being Muv Luv lol.
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i wonder where the rest of the idlar test flight are. I also wonder if they are the same as Crsyka and Inia


Did you even watched the episode?

They were all covering Inia's escape and the last man got shot down by the slave TSF.
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Good episode I hate how things just started to pick up last episode but no complaints about the episode.
It's to bad the Americans are the bad guys I really like their mechs and with things wrapping up like this still some unanswered questions I would have liked to see the past relationship of sharon and Yuuya heck I hope he ends up with her (wishful thinking)

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More great quality scenes in the following:


Someone got really lazy there.


Fuck dat.....they blessed us with gorgeous boob jiggle motion. To hell with the quality...


Hell yea that's all that matters lol
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I love those "hanging" suits. They are really going all out with those shakes since its the finale. I just wished that they introduced the antagonists earlier, teasing them, rather than waiting 'til the last minute.
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Very nice episode. Some great action in this one. I really wonder what this whole religious organisation is after though. Equality, that's it? It also seems like the Americans are hiding something...

Poor Inia has been piloting their TSF all alone! :(

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What's gonna happen NEXT?! They're gonna release the BETA Monsters as well!!

Who was the mysterious guy with the red hair showing in the monitor?! Who is the unknown Group anyway?!

I can't believe those bastards killed Natalie!!

GOD, THESE EPISODES REALLY STARTED TO PISS ME OFF!! ONLY 3 EPISODES TO GO & I SENSE THE BAD ENDING GOIN ON!
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This caught me off guard... I forgot that this was a horror thriller that fills with a bloody animation anime until I saw this episode!
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Hmm, I wonder will there be a second season. There seems to be so much to tie up in these last 3 episodes. Especially since the series tends to move slowly.
Dec 9, 2012 7:03 PM
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Only 3 episodes left till the show ends...

Can't believe things were changed later episode. Is the antagonist is the only one who was apparently a 'mastermind' behind all this BETA attack?
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I find it a little ridiculous that the Americans look like they’re the bad guys. I can understand why America would want to gain the technology of the other countries, but launching a terrorist attack of that scale doesn’t seem to be a good idea. It looks like many of the major countries are using American land and are most likely eating food produced in America. The United States doesn’t need to be covert about anything; they could demand technology for food or the right to stay in Alaska. Sure, people would hate the US, but it already looks like many people already live off of American generosity.

I doubt that the show will go into it but I’m fascinated by the terrorist organization. It is religious in nature, but it contains many people from very different religions.
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