The ending is horrible in my opinion

elderonn said:
@Ncf6789 bro they married…

Ncf6789 said:

Maybe in the novel but not in the anime.

Rip_Lazarus said:
Spoilers of ending of the violet evergarden movie
Sorry for spelling mistake and grammatical errors
TLDR;
The ending is unoriginal and full of clichés, character regression, ruining both Violet's and Gilbert's character, even though he barely had any, and IS IN SUPPORT OF GROOMING. In the first movie, Violet literally says Gilbert raised her. He was her father figure. The anime also made their relationship ambiguous, well until the movie.
My reasons
So the ending ruined Violet's character by making her dependant on Gilbert again, ruining the theme of identity and independence both the anime and first movie worked on. Violet goes from someone not being able to do anything without Gilbert's command to a strong, independent and a highly emotionally intelligent woman. She even starts asking herself what she wants for herself. But due to this ending now Violet has gone back to being dependant to Gilbert. A total 360. Her character has gone back to being dependant on him. Would have been better if they let Gilbert stay dead and Violet has to come to terms with that and find herself. And Gilbert is fickle as heck. It takes a simple letter for him to change his mind. Just one letter. Even though he directly refused her before when she basically told him the same thing. And he decided to not go back for 4 years(I think). It's just not good writing in my opinion
The ending is also full of clichés I mean the running towards each other as the sun sets or something as you can hear what the letter says in the background. The writing of this show should be so much better than this
And the grooming. It's not pedophilia but goddamn that doesn't make it better. THE FIRST MOVIE LITERALLY SAID HE RAISED HER. WHY ARE PEOPLE OK WITH THIS? It's disgusting cuz it's grooming. If they were gonna bring back Gilbert and make Violet say I love you to him, it should have been in a father daughter relationship.
They also kinda ruined the theme of love here(bit of an exaggeration). This is just my opinion but would have been better if they continued with the words 'I love you' can be used in different ways rather than in a romantic context. Like they did in the anime. I mean, didn't they make the relationship between Violet and Gilbert a mystery because they wanted to show I love you can be expressed to different people who are still essentially your loved ones. It's not really that bad so they didn't really exactly ruin it. I just thought this movie would be more emotionally intelligent.
So, in conclusion, the ending is horrible and kinda ruins not only the movie but the entire story. The entire movie itself isn't even that good. Of course the Animation and music slaps but it reuses ideas like the Yuris sub plot(it was sad but it was just episode 10 done kinda differently) and just being unoriginal and using clichés.The beginning of the movie is slow as well. And the movie ruined its main character and ruined some of Themes of Violet Evergarden as well. The series deserved better than this ending nd this movie because it is genuinely amazing. Its a 9 outta 10 without this movie as the first movie is also really good as well.
This is just my opinion, you can tell me where you disagree below. Everyone is entitled to like what they like or not. And everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This is just mine. And I think the ending is horrible.

elderonn said:
I agree so much. This movie sucks and anybody who likes it doesn’t chew before they swallow.

Loasff said:
@elderonn

They didnt show the marriage certificate so they are not married

Sports_Friday said:
She didn't go back to him due to dependence she went back due to love, the thing she finally understood after the entirety of the series. Not acknowledging her feelings acting against them would literally make no sense, since she also knew Gilbert didn't actually want her to leave he was just depressed as shit.

Issax28 said:
Agreed. The first movie clears and you’re better off not watching the second one.

Crazy that people thought an adoptive father (almost 20 year age gap) and also a superior at work, would be a good love interest for Violet Evergarden.

Rip_Lazarus said:
Spoilers of ending of the violet evergarden movie
Sorry for spelling mistake and grammatical errors
TLDR;
The ending is unoriginal and full of clichés, character regression, ruining both Violet's and Gilbert's character, even though he barely had any, and IS IN SUPPORT OF GROOMING. In the first movie, Violet literally says Gilbert raised her. He was her father figure. The anime also made their relationship ambiguous, well until the movie.
My reasons
So the ending ruined Violet's character by making her dependant on Gilbert again, ruining the theme of identity and independence both the anime and first movie worked on. Violet goes from someone not being able to do anything without Gilbert's command to a strong, independent and a highly emotionally intelligent woman. She even starts asking herself what she wants for herself. But due to this ending now Violet has gone back to being dependant to Gilbert. A total 360. Her character has gone back to being dependant on him. Would have been better if they let Gilbert stay dead and Violet has to come to terms with that and find herself. And Gilbert is fickle as heck. It takes a simple letter for him to change his mind. Just one letter. Even though he directly refused her before when she basically told him the same thing. And he decided to not go back for 4 years(I think). It's just not good writing in my opinion
The ending is also full of clichés I mean the running towards each other as the sun sets or something as you can hear what the letter says in the background. The writing of this show should be so much better than this
And the grooming. It's not pedophilia but goddamn that doesn't make it better. THE FIRST MOVIE LITERALLY SAID HE RAISED HER. WHY ARE PEOPLE OK WITH THIS? It's disgusting cuz it's grooming. If they were gonna bring back Gilbert and make Violet say I love you to him, it should have been in a father daughter relationship.
They also kinda ruined the theme of love here(bit of an exaggeration). This is just my opinion but would have been better if they continued with the words 'I love you' can be used in different ways rather than in a romantic context. Like they did in the anime. I mean, didn't they make the relationship between Violet and Gilbert a mystery because they wanted to show I love you can be expressed to different people who are still essentially your loved ones. It's not really that bad so they didn't really exactly ruin it. I just thought this movie would be more emotionally intelligent.
So, in conclusion, the ending is horrible and kinda ruins not only the movie but the entire story. The entire movie itself isn't even that good. Of course the Animation and music slaps but it reuses ideas like the Yuris sub plot(it was sad but it was just episode 10 done kinda differently) and just being unoriginal and using clichés.The beginning of the movie is slow as well. And the movie ruined its main character and ruined some of Themes of Violet Evergarden as well. The series deserved better than this ending nd this movie because it is genuinely amazing. Its a 9 outta 10 without this movie as the first movie is also really good as well.
This is just my opinion, you can tell me where you disagree below. Everyone is entitled to like what they like or not. And everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This is just mine. And I think the ending is horrible.

Rip_Lazarus said:
Spoilers of ending of the violet evergarden movie
Sorry for spelling mistake and grammatical errors
TLDR;
The ending is unoriginal and full of clichés, character regression, ruining both Violet's and Gilbert's character, even though he barely had any, and IS IN SUPPORT OF GROOMING. In the first movie, Violet literally says Gilbert raised her. He was her father figure. The anime also made their relationship ambiguous, well until the movie.
My reasons
So the ending ruined Violet's character by making her dependant on Gilbert again, ruining the theme of identity and independence both the anime and first movie worked on. Violet goes from someone not being able to do anything without Gilbert's command to a strong, independent and a highly emotionally intelligent woman. She even starts asking herself what she wants for herself. But due to this ending now Violet has gone back to being dependant to Gilbert. A total 360. Her character has gone back to being dependant on him. Would have been better if they let Gilbert stay dead and Violet has to come to terms with that and find herself. And Gilbert is fickle as heck. It takes a simple letter for him to change his mind. Just one letter. Even though he directly refused her before when she basically told him the same thing. And he decided to not go back for 4 years(I think). It's just not good writing in my opinion
The ending is also full of clichés I mean the running towards each other as the sun sets or something as you can hear what the letter says in the background. The writing of this show should be so much better than this
And the grooming. It's not pedophilia but goddamn that doesn't make it better. THE FIRST MOVIE LITERALLY SAID HE RAISED HER. WHY ARE PEOPLE OK WITH THIS? It's disgusting cuz it's grooming. If they were gonna bring back Gilbert and make Violet say I love you to him, it should have been in a father daughter relationship.
They also kinda ruined the theme of love here(bit of an exaggeration). This is just my opinion but would have been better if they continued with the words 'I love you' can be used in different ways rather than in a romantic context. Like they did in the anime. I mean, didn't they make the relationship between Violet and Gilbert a mystery because they wanted to show I love you can be expressed to different people who are still essentially your loved ones. It's not really that bad so they didn't really exactly ruin it. I just thought this movie would be more emotionally intelligent.
So, in conclusion, the ending is horrible and kinda ruins not only the movie but the entire story. The entire movie itself isn't even that good. Of course the Animation and music slaps but it reuses ideas like the Yuris sub plot(it was sad but it was just episode 10 done kinda differently) and just being unoriginal and using clichés.The beginning of the movie is slow as well. And the movie ruined its main character and ruined some of Themes of Violet Evergarden as well. The series deserved better than this ending nd this movie because it is genuinely amazing. Its a 9 outta 10 without this movie as the first movie is also really good as well.
This is just my opinion, you can tell me where you disagree below. Everyone is entitled to like what they like or not. And everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This is just mine. And I think the ending is horrible.

IOANNIS1940 said:

The ending of the movie, especially the after credits scene, was the best thing to happen for Violet Evergarden. It was the end which deserved it after all of this which was through in the war and after the war, she deserved it to find happiness and peace in her life exactly in this way.

Her character development wasn't just about being independent and making her own choices without orders from his major. It was also to learn about feelings. 50% about taking a job in Auto Memories Doll it was about understanding the phrase which was told by the major and the other 50% it was about learning about human feelings.

Also something that many people understand wrong is the fact that the Violet's relationship with Gilbert was not a father to daughter relationship, she didn't see him as a father figure she saw him as a human who treated her like a human being who gave her feelings like love, care and affection. Things she had never felt before and which she had never received from other people in her life. Everyone else treats her like a weapon or a bloodthirsty killer.

The relationship is not characterized as pedophilia for any reason. Their relationship throughout the series as well as the movie is mostly platonic so it shows absolutely nothing going on between them (you can't accuse a relationship of being inappropriate when nothing happens). Something like this series and movies that rank in this tier are something other abominations like Happy Sugar life.

Their romance wasn't codependency neither obsession it was pure love and interest for each other.

The scene running towards each other in the sunset was a masterpiece of picture, color and music direction.
You can call it cliche like other scenes you see in American movies, couples running to meet again in the airport or in front of a fountain in a square.
But again, it is not the same either in terms of scenography or in terms of the personalities of the two characters.

However, if I want to be 100% objective about this movie there were quite a few things I didn't like.
Like the flashbacks of the future that showed the story with Daisy Magnolia. These scenes were unnecessary and confused the viewer too much, the story of the movie should have focused entirely on Violet. Also the last scene shows Violet walking alone with a suitcase on a road. I didn't understand the meaning of this scene.

LordSozin said:
@IOANNIS1940, maybe it wasn't exactly a father-parenting-daughter relationship but the series definitely portrays a guardian to a wartorn child relationship. As you said, because Gilbert treated Violet differently from others, with care and affection, her character was to learn to understand those feelings that were instilled in her and embrace them. Not to turn into an obsession and I think the movie made it to be.

I lean towards the idea of obsession from Violet's end because before the final film, at least in my eyes, the series emphasized moving forward from the past and declaring one's own identity. The final film completely reversed that.

As for your point that their love wasn't codependency or obsession, I'll ask you this: Why did Violet feel so lost at the beginning of the series but throughout her time spent at the Auto Memory Doll, her time spent there was about assisting others in the goal discovery oneself? As opposed to what the main series was advocating, the final film made it about obsession.

Deane said:
I agree with almost everything you said, the only exception being that I thought the story told in the first half of the movie was great. However, as you said, the second half pretty much reversed all the development Violet had through the series, to the point that I like to think of it as non-canon so that it doesn't affect how I think of the 'main' series.

Something that you didn't mention was how it also completely ignored the theme of grieving the loss of a loved one that was all over the first season. Gilbert being alive makes a lot of the character development she went through completely senseless, on top of ruining the theme of identity and independence that you mentioned.

IOANNIS1940 said:

Because she woke up in a military hospital after the last battle. That's why she felt so lost.

In the series perhaps she is doing all these things to help herself to understand her own feelings but also helps a lot the people around her. And that shows how great her character is.

Also when a woman struggles to find the man she loves you can't call it obsession.

About 75% of the romance movies of the world it's about a guy who turns the world upside down searching to find the woman he loves.
When a man does such a thing they immediately call it love.

Why when a woman does that thing is called obsession ?

Rip_Lazarus said:

You made good points but
I didn't say it was pedophilia, I said he groomed her. He was basically her father figure and heck Violet said it herself in the first movie that he raised her. She literally said,"He raised me." Surely, that would lead to people thinking this is a father daughter relationship. Along with the anime making their relationship ambiguous. Also its grooming soooo yh that's weird.
As for my dependency statement, I still stand by that cuz I feel violet should have moved on and found herself, coming to terms with Gilbert's death. And them just tying her back to Gilbert, when she was already doing that was just not it. You interpreted as them having pure love and interest in each other to which I say yes, that aligns with the themes of Violet Evergarden. But I didn't see it that way, which is why I said Violet just went back to being in a co dependent relationship
As for the unoriginality and clichés, even if they reused material and old clichés, yeah of course it was beautiful and well done. I mean I love shonen and they basically reuse the same formula. I don't have a problem with clichés necessarily, but I didn't expect a anime like Violet Evergarden to settle for such a ending.The writing is and should be so much better than that. It felt uninspired, like Kyoto were just doing it to please the fandom. I spent way too long with Violet for that. I understand most of your points though and acc agree with some of them so yh.

Rip_Lazarus said:
Personally I rather call it dependency than obsession but you could honestly refer to it as both. Violet would literally throw everything away(which she does) to be with the major. Which makes sense cuz this creepy guy Gilbert GROOMED HER. I mean, it makes sense why she is bent on getting with the major. He literally in my opinion emotionally manipulated her(maybe on accident) to be with him. Of course he didn't do inappropriate stuff to her while she was young. If he did, it would be pedophilia. Although he did tell her he loved her when she was 14 so I guess he's a pedo and a groomer. Just one who doesn't break the law. He did inappropriate stuff to her when she was an adult, and him basically raising makes this a case of grooming, which is disgusting.
Go on Netflix rn and re watch the ending, he says
"I've always wanted to do this." THAT'S WRONG. I am not doubting my memory, I know he says that. He's been literally planning this. He's always wanted to be with her. His words not mine.(The dirtbag also says he's not a good person and I agree. He shouldn't have lived. Him living ruins two themes and I also hate him).So of course Violet is bent on the major and is desperately in love with him since he raised her, as he literally was the only to show her affection. Until the beginning of the anime. She was going to move on. She was moving on. She says in the first movie
"What do I want to do"
She's never ever said that. She was growing and doing stuff for her self. But then Gilbert, and then she decides that what she wants is to be Gilbert, basically tying her character down Gilbert, instead doing her thing. Is this out of her free will, yes? Is it due to habit on being dependant on Gilbert, in my opinion, yes. BECAUSE when she asked herself that question, what do I want , she isn't thinking about Gilbert, she thinking about herself and she wants. I mean, what else can I say? The ending right there ruined that question and the theme.

Piromysl said:
My only gripe with the ending was that those two got married, not only because of age gap. Gilbert was for Violet a father or brother at most and nothing forshadowed potential romance between the two. It was NEVER specified whether "love" Violet needs to discover is romantic or paternal.
Though KyoAni handled it good by making their relationship ambiguous in the anime.
Overall, it gives Usagi Drop vibes.

IOANNIS1940 said:

The ending of the movie, especially the after credits scene, was the best thing to happen for Violet Evergarden. It was the end which deserved it after all of this which was through in the war and after the war, she deserved it to find happiness and peace in her life exactly in this way.

Her character development wasn't just about being independent and making her own choices without orders from his major. It was also to learn about feelings. 50% about taking a job in Auto Memories Doll it was about understanding the phrase which was told by the major and the other 50% it was about learning about human feelings.

Also something that many people understand wrong is the fact that the Violet's relationship with Gilbert was not a father to daughter relationship, she didn't see him as a father figure she saw him as a human who treated her like a human being who gave her feelings like love, care and affection. Things she had never felt before and which she had never received from other people in her life. Everyone else treats her like a weapon or a bloodthirsty killer.

The relationship is not characterized as pedophilia for any reason. Their relationship throughout the series as well as the movie is mostly platonic so it shows absolutely nothing going on between them (you can't accuse a relationship of being inappropriate when nothing happens). Something like this series and movies that rank in this tier are something other abominations like Happy Sugar life.

Their romance wasn't codependency neither obsession it was pure love and interest for each other.

The scene running towards each other in the sunset was a masterpiece of picture, color and music direction.
You can call it cliche like other scenes you see in American movies, couples running to meet again in the airport or in front of a fountain in a square.
But again, it is not the same either in terms of scenography or in terms of the personalities of the two characters.

However, if I want to be 100% objective about this movie there were quite a few things I didn't like.
Like the flashbacks of the future that showed the story with Daisy Magnolia. These scenes were unnecessary and confused the viewer too much, the story of the movie should have focused entirely on Violet. Also the last scene shows Violet walking alone with a suitcase on a road. I didn't understand the meaning of this scene.