Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai Episode 12 Discussion

Shelduck said:
I'm actually glad it's over.

I really liked this anime in the beginning. It's been a while since I've seen a slice of life anime with a brother and a sister as main characters WITHOUT blatant incest. I mean, I have nothing against it, but, you know. It gets old.

But after every passing episode, I came to hate Kirino more and more. I mean, seriously? She's a star athlete, a novelist with her own anime series, top of the class and a model, all without ever studying or practicing. Wut? Plus, she's a bitch. A complete, utter bitch who needs anger management for constantly beating up her brother for no fucking reason at all. She is not cute in any way, shape or form. Yet, she has friends and her brother is amazingly nice to her. Seh doesn't deserve them, not one bit.

The most annoying thing? If she were a boy, beating up her older sister like this, there'd be a shitstorm. But oh, since she's a GIRL, it's all fine and dandy, all tsundere and cute. GUH.

Well, I'm at least glad the siblings didn't end up together, that would've sucked. As it was, the ending... was really weird and random. I mean, wtf, America? Why? WHY was she too embarrassed to show that? Why didn't the parents see it necessary to inform her brother that she was leaving? WHAT.

Also, Kyousuke's face at the end scares me, truly. I mean, just yesterday he was complaining that the life counseling or whatever was going to continue, and now, suddenly, he's BLUSHING?

Eh. It was an okay series, and I really liked some character designs. Also, the first three episodes or so were great.

I'm going to watch the specials, because I'm curious, I admit.

Yumekichi11 said:


I think it was more a Good End because Kirino never went to the USA and thus she was able to be with everyone. That would make a "good" thing for her. Remains to see in the second season how Kirino will be when she would return from the USA.

If Kyousuke chases her in the USA, that would be epic but the problem is, how will USA take their relationship? Aren't the laws there in regards to incest more severe than USA?

De-JaY said:

wat?

A2ZOMG said:
The thing is, Kirino exhibits basically zero development. Nothing changes. She still is irrationally cruel to everyone around her, especially her brother who slaves away feeding her unhealthy anime obsession. Kirino's behaviors like telling her brother to get run over a truck, kicking him in the balls, and saying every other thing he does is gross has no logical purpose in this show. It's simply an extremely bad choice on the execution of the premise.

A2ZOMG said:
^Best post.

If I knew Japanese, I would attempt to write in Romaji "There is no way 'My Little Sister' is better than a 4"

Of course, I will watch the specials myself, since I think there is a 1% chance that they might actually present a better story than the failure of a plot that this show tried to pull out of its rear end.

Kirino is a utter disgrace to anime fans. Never have I seen a character so clueless, cruel, and ungrateful for the people around her. If she were the villain of the show, and the show was about how society beats down on ingrates like her, we would have a much better story.

Anyone who rates this show higher than a 6 needs their head examined. Now.

rebwaters said:
It was an obvious happy reply. He was happy 'cause Life Counselling isn't really over yet. But why? Why he has that reply? 'Cause he's overjoyed he can still hang out with her sister and give her advices

potplant said:
She is cruel to Kyousuke however not irrationally (note the magnitude is up to taste) since there's always a trigger, it is never random. Logic is irrelevant in inter-personal relationships, afterall to like someone defies logic/normal conventions. If your parents do things for you only because LOGICALLY they want you to look after them in retirement, how would you view the relationship thus?

Maugomale said:
Guys, there's still the True End extra episodes. I assure you, it'll be much more satisfying than this one.

Citrix said:
Those have no plans of coming out for another 6-7 months. 4 episodes on BD. Very long wait =/

Citrix said:

Those have no plans of coming out for another 6-7 months. 4 episodes on BD. Very long wait =/

Sartaj said:


I loved the credits too with the parents watching animu, and Kuroneko's neko poses in the mirror (anyone get a gif of that? It's glorious)

A2ZOMG said:
What I should state is that logically speaking, Kirino's cruelty towards her brother is blatantly unnecessary and stupid. Take the times she constantly calls him gross. If it was a joke, the joke got old decades ago and simply isn't funny. If it was in some way trying to show some insight into the character, it didn't show us anything more than the fact that Kirino is stupidly irrational and clueless. Everything Kyosuke does is basically normal as hell. Do you truly expect me to say that it's believable that Kirino somehow doesn't get that? It's even more disgusting that Kirino never gives Kyosuke the chance to properly explain himself, and then she goes out of her way to seriously harm him.

Tsuki-Hime said:
i like how fans trying to explain kirino's character and i wish if they get some ungrateful companion/sibling in real life, which call you "gross" when you try to help her, punch you on the face when you accidentally bump into her. she do something wrong like playing a porn game with high volume and when you say lower your voice, she call you a gross pervert. then i would really love to hear your explanations about her actions.

and I would also like to see a new anime called, "Ore no Otouto" where a younger brother beat out his big sister and kirino fandom reviews in episode discussion threads about how "cute" he is.

Maugomale said:


You're talking about "ifs" there, man.

The name of the show is called "Ore no Imouto". The plot's focus is on Kirino. Without her, it would make no sense. If you dislike her so much, why not just drop the anime and move onto the next one? No one is making you watch it!

And, if your reasons to keep watching are because you prefer another character, heck, then just grab a doujinshi and enjoy it. Nitpicking the main character's flaws is not gonna change the show's name, nor make your waifu's spotlight shine brighter.

Timofmars said:
This how Kirino operates. She is very competitive, seeking to be to best at everything she does. That's why she is a star in so many aspects. But it also means that everything she faces is taken as a competitive challenge. So when Kuroneko first disparages Kirino's favorite anime, it triggers Kirino's competitive side. So Kirino retaliates just the same, and the rivalry is started. Kirino apparently also had thought for a long time that her brother didn't talk to her because he didn't like her. So naturally, she mimics the perceived attitude from her brother and tries to win that competition as well. She is full of pride.

Kirino calling Kyousuke "gross" is not a joke. It's just her acting like she thinks she's expected to act towards her brother. It's like the way young kids act like kissing is gross, or that the opposite sex has cooties, or that some classmates aren't cool because of their hobbies or because they try hard to do well in classes. For the most part, all the kids act that way because they feel social pressure from the other classmates to act that way. To do otherwise would subject them to getting their pride hurt.



Look at the way she acts towards Kuroneko. She has a friendly rivalry with her, both of them trying to ridicule each other to win some battle for dominance. But if Kuroneko ever gave in, for example by agreeing that Kirino's anime preferences really were better, Kirino would feel bad, and would start admitting some aspects she likes about Kuroneko's anime preferences.

Regarding the way Kirino acts towards her brother, she just feels she's supposed to act like her brother is just a worthless annoyance that she just "tolerates". It's a competition to see who can act more annoyed of the other. So when Kyousuke ever acts sincere and loving, she feels awkward because it's like he stopped competing, and she doesn't know how to react to that. It's uncomfortable for here to also put away her pride and "give up", so she hits or yells at him to put him back in "annoyed" mode.

A2ZOMG said:
Think for a moment how ridiculously irrational of a character design that is. It's not even a question of naming qualities Kirino has. It's the fact it's all maintained for 12 full episodes and none of the characters seems to have a clue and just indulges Kirino for all of her bad behavior.

This isn't good storytelling. It's borderline fantasy, and it's washed up given how unrealistic the interactions are and how they just remain bad for the entire time. It's unacceptable when the setting is more or less one comparable to real life.

As corny as it sounds, a story needs a redeeming point, and it's something that Ore no Imouto fails to achieve with non-existent development and mind-bogglingly unreal character interactions. Your typical shounen has more realistic, relatable, and appealing characters and character interactions than Ore no Imouto, and that's not saying much given that there's only a few exceptional shounens.

fancyfox said:
This episode had complete BS moments. I find it amazing that Kirino's mother and father never seem to make a big deal that she's model, novelist, and future anime show creator all while being underage. They know about her actions and the father does have some control over what she does, but their roles are very vague. The mother just makes fun of her kids while the father sits in his bathrobe all day reading the newspaper. Then Kirino's going to America and no one in the family bothers to talk about it? WHAT?!?! BS. I'm sure she asked her parents to keep it a secret from her brother, but that part of the storyline itself was too convenient.