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May 30, 2022 11:10 AM
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Well, it's good to see Myne spend more time with her family. However, it's too bad the happiness didn't last long outside of their home.

Elsewhere, the adults are caught in their own drama again. Bezewanst really is a character I can't stand in this show with that temper of his.
May 30, 2022 11:28 AM
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I let the slow pace of the anime distract me from the fact that this is not a peaceful town at all, in fact, it'd be quite a dangerous. The anime focus on Myne that has many people escorting her all the time, and the kidnap is still happened. But what about vulnerable people that don't have Myne's privilege?
May 30, 2022 11:33 AM
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Everytime Myne comes with an idea, and the idea turns out good.



So now they have the working paint done, but i guess there will be some backlash after the girl accidentally "walked" in into one of the paint shops, and got yelled at .. a bit on the nose that one, if you ask me. Then, Delia made a pact with an evil Santa ...


phantomfandom said:
But what about vulnerable people that don't have Myne's privilege?

They die, multiple times we were reminded that this is not a nice world to live in :(
May 30, 2022 11:54 AM
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Holy shit, the episode title “Ominous developments” was perfect for today.

This entire episode was so unnerving. Between the High priest abusing his attendants and showing his true self, to Myne being told about Delia and the high priest to her ultimate kidnapping. Really hope they’re able to rescue Myne without anyone getting hurt.

You can really tell that we’re really about to get the story going now, which after 3 seasons is incredible. You rarely see LN adaptations actually take their time and lay groundwork like this. Hope we get a 4th season soon.
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The discovery of the Devouring on Dirk, the ink making process, Delia's questioning...all seems like it's about to fall into place of Main's responsibility being questioned.

Thankfully, Delia would still be able to take care of Dirk, and the ink-making procedure going good to fantasy levels of Heidi and Main being similar in thought, with more Gutenbergs for a comedic chuckle.

Being holed at home from a precarious situation meant that Main could see Kamil, but things at the cathedral isn't better as the High Priest is making secret deals for dangerous nobles to enter the land, considerably putting Main on high alert. This is made worse by Delia and Dirk's adoption while she was away, and the High Priest taking advantage of this since he can use the clueless Delia to his liking.

Truly, a kidnapping in broad daylight, the protection system has failed Gunther and Main's in serious trouble now...
May 30, 2022 12:07 PM
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The crescendo of all the bad omens Main has received regarding the high priest and viscous nobles trying to steal her away. Its actually happened now, they couldn't protect her. Main father, Damuel and Ferdinand all tried their best but Main still got napped. Earlier in the episode things looked up. The fixing agent they made for the ink actually works, Heidi and her husband helping out. Dirk being suddenly adopted away by means of the high priest is very shady. Delia thinks its a good thing but stuff having to do with the high priest is never good. I'm afraid Dirk is probably in danger or being used for his mana. Once the ordeal at the gate happened with that foreign noble trying to gain entry the tone shifted to danger. The high priest seems to be making his move to go after Main.
May 30, 2022 12:11 PM
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That's the poll breakdown, top to bottom, so far.
I find that highly suspect.

I didn't love some of the story elements, true.
That has absolutely nothing to do with this as an anime; that I disliked that aspect shows just how good an adaptation it is.
They did have to cram a lot into this episode, and did so in such a manner that it felt that it lasted far longer than it actually did; it didn't feel hurried.

There is so much I want to say which would violate the 'no discussion of things yet to be seen that we know due to having read the LN' policy.

So I'll leave it as being a very good adaptation, an accurate presenting of events, and the usual high quality of animation and VA work.

ETA: now up to 8,0,0,1,5
May 30, 2022 12:38 PM
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Weasalopes said:
4,0,0,1,5
That's the poll breakdown, top to bottom, so far.
I find that highly suspect.


Each and every episode has only and exactly 6 ppl (possibly bots) giving 1 rating, so they are invalid, fakers do not count.
So don't worry.

Swagernator said:


Then, Delia made a pact with an evil Santa ...


And she WILL PAY, muhahahahahaha MUUHAHAHAHA......



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phantomfandom said:
But what about vulnerable people that don't have Myne's privilege?

They die, multiple times we were reminded that this is not a nice world to live in :(


They die or are slaved (primarily for their bodies/marrige/mana(female) and soliders/mana(male)).
Slave soldiers are used for dirty fights, like 2 times before, the carriage incident, and the night break-in.
May 30, 2022 12:39 PM
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Man, the feeling that everything was going to turn for the worst was done great and then it finally happened, Delia screwed it up and basically gifted Dirk as a slave, the guards let the noble in and even Myne and Tuuli were kidnapped, I hope nothing happens to anyone I like all the characters too much.

It was so lovely so see Delia feel so proud of Dirk.
May 30, 2022 12:40 PM

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My god. I wish that baby didn't exist. he is annoying and girl being all over him is also annoying.
May 30, 2022 12:49 PM
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the guards let the noble in and even Myne and Tuuli were kidnapped, I hope nothing happens to anyone I like all the characters too much.


Tuuli was pouting so cutely too, now this event is gonna scar her a bit mentally, everyone involved in the lower city from the gate guards to Neighbours are gonna get a reality check.
(Commoners just do not know how scary nobles are after all)

Its gonna make MASSIVE Waves in noble society later-on (so much so, even if we get to season 7+ we will still feel it).
May 30, 2022 12:59 PM
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My god. I wish that baby didn't exist. he is annoying and girl being all over him is also annoying.

Baby has a name, Dirk.
Its fine if you hate Delia.
But baby has just existed yet bro..... and even then he was abandoned by his mother for having the devouring, and was just sold as a slave, not to mention the next episodes' xxxxxxx(spoiler hidden).
ffs
Show him some love.

May 30, 2022 2:07 PM

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I'm not sure why there's this whole thing about a foreign noble and taking advantage of the adoption loophole if they're just going to forge papers and kidnap her. I guess it avoids retribution? Seems like you'd either leave it all to illicit methods or make more of an effort to stick to the rules. Mixing like this even the lopsided legal system could find a way to punish the nobles.
May 30, 2022 2:49 PM
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Damn so they really got Main in the end, they better save her quickly but it will be sure very annoying
May 30, 2022 3:31 PM

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Not that it really changes things, but why go to so much effort to highlight the rules of the land regarding foreign nobles and adoption when the opposing nobles are just going to break the law by forging papers and kidnapping Myne anyway?

In the circumstances, why do they need to get Myne right now, rather than waiting for the lord to return so they can enter legally and not leave such an obvious trail that could lead to their plans being countered? Especially when they didn't even try to use a different carriage on the second attempt to hide that it was the same noble connected to the High Priest.
May 30, 2022 3:42 PM

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the cliffhanger is kinda pointless: myne has enough plot armor to survive nuclear explosion
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This anime is such a masterful adaptation of the source material... I hope they push for 24 episodes and animate all of Part 3 for the next season.
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Atavistic said:
Not that it really changes things, but why go to so much effort to highlight the rules of the land regarding foreign nobles and adoption when the opposing nobles are just going to break the law by forging papers and kidnapping Myne anyway?

In the circumstances, why do they need to get Myne right now, rather than waiting for the lord to return so they can enter legally and not leave such an obvious trail that could lead to their plans being countered? Especially when they didn't even try to use a different carriage on the second attempt to hide that it was the same noble connected to the High Priest.



1. The effort to highlight the rules of the land will be useful for later on. I don't wish to say too much. You'll see.


2. Nobles are incredibly greedy, even from other duchies. The High Bishop feels confident to do his schemes now as the Archduke is away. Commoners have no power against nobles, even from afar. So while may seem obvious (same carriage and noble), there is little they can do unless under direct orders. That's where the mistake occurred about the message not being relayed that documents could be forged.

They want to obtain Myne sooner than later because their previous attempts have failed. So now they're being a bit more irrational.
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That big mouth... Delia should have known better that old fart of high priest is bad news. I feel bad for Myne (and Tuuri), she's caught thanks to her. Guess Delia was never Myne's friend to begin with :( sad cuz I thought she changed. I wonder how Ferdinand will deal with this situation and learning about the high priest's plot scheme. Certainly it will make him upset, and that's understandable. The old man just lost his mind :/

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May 30, 2022 7:15 PM
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why do I feel that everyone in the show has just become brain dead stupid just to advance the plot and create some drama in the series. Worst of the three seasons so far for sure.
May 30, 2022 7:56 PM
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kind of funny how the noob knight fails to protect Myne a second time... the big question is whether Damuel survives letting this happen right in front of him. The kidnapping makes weak nobles look useless...
May 30, 2022 11:05 PM
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why do I feel that everyone in the show has just become brain dead stupid just to advance the plot and create some drama in the series. Worst of the three seasons so far for sure.


I feel this season has run out of ideas and is grasping for content. The end of season 2 should have been the catalytic event for more exploration of the whole Urano-Myne and Modern Japan-Ehrenfest dichotomy but it's just repeating things from season 2 in a worse way.
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the cliffhanger is kinda pointless: myne has enough plot armor to survive nuclear explosion
What about Tuuli though? She got kidnapped too.
May 30, 2022 11:19 PM

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Shit just got serious. My heart was pumping a lot faster than normal. I'm so excited for the final 2 episodes.
May 30, 2022 11:47 PM

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Delia the dumbest did it again, can't wait for High priest throwing her away when all's done as he planned out to be. And yeah the inevitable kidnapping served as a good cliffhanger.
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phantomfandom said:
I let the slow pace of the anime distract me from the fact that this is not a peaceful town at all, in fact, it'd be quite a dangerous. The anime focus on Myne that has many people escorting her all the time, and the kidnap is still happened. But what about vulnerable people that don't have Myne's privilege?

Assuming that the anime doesn't gloss over it like it does most of the darker parts of the novel, we'll actually have an answer to this in literally the next episode. The anime has an extremely bad habit of completely glossing over the more horrifying parts of the novel. While I wouldn't call the novel extremely dark or anything, it's far from being as lighthearted as the anime is.
Marinate1016 said:
Holy shit, the episode title “Ominous developments” was perfect for today.

This entire episode was so unnerving. Between the High priest abusing his attendants and showing his true self, to Myne being told about Delia and the high priest to her ultimate kidnapping. Really hope they’re able to rescue Myne without anyone getting hurt.

You can really tell that we’re really about to get the story going now, which after 3 seasons is incredible. You rarely see LN adaptations actually take their time and lay groundwork like this. Hope we get a 4th season soon.

This is basically the end of the prologue for the series as a whole. There's five parts to the series with each part getting successively longer. Part 1 (season 1) is 3 volumes, part 2 (seasons 2 and 3) is 4 volumes, part 3 is 5 volumes, part 4 is 8 volumes, and part 5 is currently being published in Japan but the author has predicted it will have 12 volumes. Incidentally, the English translation of the novel just recently started the last volume of part 4.

I'm kinda curious how they'll handle some of the darker parts of the series that plays a fairly major role in part 3. They've glossed over things so badly so far that it seems like they'll either gloss over that as much as they can physically manage (to the complete detriment of the series) or will show it as it actually is which is going to feel like a massive mood whiplash to anime-only viewers.
May 31, 2022 1:59 AM
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Dammit Damuel, you had literally *one job*.

Also I only just noticed that this is going to be a short season, which makes me sad.
May 31, 2022 2:25 AM

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Yeah, this was a great adaptation too. and the cliffhanger end... good.!

very well Zipped, I have to say. Many funny details have been left ... but you can always get to read the original source to enjoy it them
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>Quotes from AoB <
There is again! The ultimate technique: "It's all his fault, not mine!"
Goddess, High Bishop, you sure are popular!
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Oh no... Main got abducted! Hopefully Main didn't kill them when She's out of control :)
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May 31, 2022 2:52 AM

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Alice3173 said:

This is basically the end of the prologue for the series as a whole. There's five parts to the series with each part getting successively longer.

Yup! it is,
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Part 1 (season 1) is 3 volumes, part 2 (seasons 2 and 3) is 4 volumes, part 3 is 5 volumes, part 4 is 8 volumes, and part 5 is currently being published in Japan but the author has predicted it will have 12 volumes. Incidentally, the English translation of the novel just recently started the last volume of part 4.

Just a little correction: Part 4 has 9 volume, so yet JNC still on volume 8th (of part 4) just the prologue plus 5 chaps in two chunks (Pre-Publishing Parts) of 8 chunks planned for book.


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I'm kinda curious how they'll handle some of the darker parts of the series that plays a fairly major role in part 3. They've glossed over things so badly so far that it seems like they'll either gloss over that as much as they can physically manage (to the complete detriment of the series) or will show it as it actually is which is going to feel like a massive mood whiplash to anime-only viewers.

Yup, me too. but thinking that the show is aiming for a more young audience, as they are now in Japan re-publishing the whole series in "furigana" books (about twice the volumes of the regular Kanji edition ( so 66 volumes ?_? )
EkunSjyMay 31, 2022 2:55 AM

>Quotes from AoB <
There is again! The ultimate technique: "It's all his fault, not mine!"
Goddess, High Bishop, you sure are popular!
まんが きけん      むがく -> Manga wa kikenjyanai, kedo mugaku desu.
漫画は危険じゃない、けど無学です。
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May 31, 2022 3:43 AM

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Not gonna lie,that cliffhanger got me upset and makes me hate nobles in Bookworm even more.

Delia is really naive. If she completely understood dark side of nobility and that high priest is rotten to the core,she wouldn't think of doing something so naive. Majority of nobility in Bookworm are all the same,they discriminate commoners,treat them as trash or toys that can be played with until they are broken and they are always hungry for wealth and power.

Arrogant pigs,all of them. If i were in lord's shoes and found out about how majority of nobles act,i'd strip them out of their political power and have them executed for their crimes.
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I think the high priest would just throw Delia and Dirk away (or possibly kill them and call it an accident) if he succeeded with his plans.

I know that Myne will be fine with the kidnapping, as she can defend herself, but Tuuli having been kidnapped too is quite worrying. If Myne tries to do anything, they can just use Tuuli as the hostage. We'll see how they'll conclude the final two episodes. It's obvious that it will turn out well for Mayne but who knows what may happen to other characters.
May 31, 2022 10:07 AM

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This is some bullshit they can't do that to myne. How can I spend the rest of my week worrying like this wtf. I'm really mad.
May 31, 2022 11:49 AM

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At this point, with everything Myne has going on, and the high priest priest stealing away the kid she is troubled. And I reckon even being kidnapped she could of probably rationalised and kept cool.

But they also took her sister. Next episode, I want too see an awakening again with no one to control her and she just starts melting faces of corrupt and foreign nobles and I think taking her sister as well will be the key.

Obviously no face melting will occur in a pg-13 show, but you get the point!!!
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Majority of nobility in Bookworm are all the same,they discriminate commoners,treat them as trash or toys that can be played with until they are broken and they are always hungry for wealth and power.

Arrogant pigs,all of them.If i were in lord's shoes and found out about how majority of nobles act,i'd strip them out of their political power and have them executed for their crimes.


Nobles aren't easy like that.
You need solid evidence of a crime by law.
Else you can get away with anything.

And when it comes to commoners in the Bookworm world, the lord (or any noble) will not bat an eye to literally EXTERMINATE a whole village/region in a single swoop if even slight rebellion is detected, for peace. That is the Bookworm Worlds common sense. (Try imagining all Lower city slaughtered in one fell swoop by a nuke type magic, if the Lord decides, no one can or will oppose him and no guilt either, it was needed to be done and it was done. Like that.)

You will see more about how nobles work in next season *praying for its fast arrival*. :)
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It finally happened. I've been waiting for this. Hopefully she can learn some discretion from this incident.

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pasanoid said:
the cliffhanger is kinda pointless: myne has enough plot armor to survive nuclear explosion
What about Tuuli though? She got kidnapped too.
RIP


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Finally. Actual plot progression. We haven't seen that since season 1.

When this show is finished, it will need a fan-edit like Naruto Kai that cuts out the filler and boils down the show to the essentials.
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Good episode but Myne got kidnapped so I'm a little bit sad. Hope by the end of the next episode she gets saved.
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Myne showing zero growth when dealing with Delia was painful to watch. If Delia begs to come back after this and I suspect(will not read the LNs) she will and Mayne with just forgive her. God it makes me want to puke just thinking about it.
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The thing got complicated, already then that happened the problem of that nobleman and they let it pass, now they kidnap Myne and Turi, to see if they rescue them.
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Delia still hasn't changed, ah man like Main I thought she would've opened up to her by now, I guess not. But i know she'll be back probably fully changed this time around. Can't wait for that scene to come.
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of course, they will be fine, the web novel ended with 677 chapters, the events in this las episode are described in chap 167 ... which left over 500 chapters to be adapted ...


just a bit of light ...
in first season Main (or Myne) crush the Head priest (Bishop = Evil Santa white robes) with her flowing mana... she also stroke it at Ferdinand (the high priest blue robes and hair ), but he have not a problem to hold her mana in check.
So Noble society in this (bookworm) world is highly hierarchical, so if Ferdinand is 2nd in command in the Church /temple/ cathedral... even having more mana than the Bishop <evil Santa> head priest?, means that Evils santa family position still higher than Ferdinand one.
But he still to be even in a high position over the Knight guard commander Karstedt, as seeing in season 2, with the tormbe extermination.



>Quotes from AoB <
There is again! The ultimate technique: "It's all his fault, not mine!"
Goddess, High Bishop, you sure are popular!
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漫画は危険じゃない、けど無学です。
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pasanoid said:
Zefyris said:
What about Tuuli though? She got kidnapped too.
RIP


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I haven't read the novels past the anime adaptation. If they kill off Tuuli, I take back everything I've thought of this show becoming too plot armored and formulaic this season.
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phantomfandom said:
I let the slow pace of the anime distract me from the fact that this is not a peaceful town at all, in fact, it'd be quite a dangerous. The anime focus on Myne that has many people escorting her all the time, and the kidnap is still happened. But what about vulnerable people that don't have Myne's privilege?

Assuming that the anime doesn't gloss over it like it does most of the darker parts of the novel, we'll actually have an answer to this in literally the next episode. The anime has an extremely bad habit of completely glossing over the more horrifying parts of the novel. While I wouldn't call the novel extremely dark or anything, it's far from being as lighthearted as the anime is.
Marinate1016 said:
Holy shit, the episode title “Ominous developments” was perfect for today.

This entire episode was so unnerving. Between the High priest abusing his attendants and showing his true self, to Myne being told about Delia and the high priest to her ultimate kidnapping. Really hope they’re able to rescue Myne without anyone getting hurt.

You can really tell that we’re really about to get the story going now, which after 3 seasons is incredible. You rarely see LN adaptations actually take their time and lay groundwork like this. Hope we get a 4th season soon.

This is basically the end of the prologue for the series as a whole. There's five parts to the series with each part getting successively longer. Part 1 (season 1) is 3 volumes, part 2 (seasons 2 and 3) is 4 volumes, part 3 is 5 volumes, part 4 is 8 volumes, and part 5 is currently being published in Japan but the author has predicted it will have 12 volumes. Incidentally, the English translation of the novel just recently started the last volume of part 4.

I'm kinda curious how they'll handle some of the darker parts of the series that plays a fairly major role in part 3. They've glossed over things so badly so far that it seems like they'll either gloss over that as much as they can physically manage (to the complete detriment of the series) or will show it as it actually is which is going to feel like a massive mood whiplash to anime-only viewers.


Yeah the anime does have tonal issues. They mentioned the guy who attacked Myne getting executed like they were talking about what to have for dinner.
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I don't get it why people hate Delia.
Makes no sense, similarly to how people hated Gabi from AOT.

Delia doesn't know why high bishop is bad news. She is oblivious and the truth is purposefully hidden from her; truth about Dirk too.

I personally only feel fear for her safety. Gullible people like her often get hurt badly, are discarded or even get killed in the end - betrayed!
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friggin' cliffhanger!
i hope Maine would go bankaisaiyanjn mode and teach those kidnapper bastards a lesson and know their place!
5/5.


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I don't get it why people hate Delia.
Makes no sense, similarly to how people hated Gabi from AOT.

Delia doesn't know why high bishop is bad news. She is oblivious and the truth is purposefully hidden from her; truth about Dirk too.

I personally only feel fear for her safety. Gullible people like her often get hurt badly, are discarded or even get killed in the end - betrayed!


Perhaps it's because extremely ignorant people like this are often also extremely arrogant - the worst possible combination - and Delia was and still really is also extremely arrogant, petty, and nasty to others while being clueless herself.

The people who think they know everything and are extremely rude and aggressive about it tend to be the most ignorant people who know the least, and regardless of the fact that Delia is a young child (as are many of the main characters, except Myne mentally), she still very much gives off that vibe and seems like a real world person who would very likely go on to develop along that exact same manner and trajectory as a teenager and an adult.

She is also the type obsessed with her standing, image, and praise and crumbs of rewards from people she places on a pedestal and constantly seeks to elevate herself at the expense of other people by being needlessly bullying and standoffish. She seems like someone who, in a modern school setting, would go on to become the prototypical "mean girl" highschooler leading or second-in-command of a clique of bullying girls trying to form and assert her identity and gain clout by abusing others.
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Poll: » Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan wo Erandeiraremasen 3rd Season Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )

Stark700 - Jun 13, 2022

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Aug 31, 2024 11:29 AM

Poll: » Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan wo Erandeiraremasen 3rd Season Episode 7 Discussion

Stark700 - May 23, 2022

48 by Rexnihilo »»
Aug 8, 2024 6:23 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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