The Empty Box and Zeroth Maria (light novel)
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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Well, this is obviously my least favourite arc, the owner was somewhat easy to figure out The resolution wasn’t as amazing/convincing as vol. 1. While this is the weakest vol., it is very important with regards to character and plot development though. |
| Also my least favourite arc, still pretty amazing though. Also pretty much the only novel where I got the owner right the first time (even though I still doubted myself a bit throughout the story). |
| I agree with it being not as good as the first one, and it was a lot more confusing, but it was still pretty good :P |
 ... It's a work in progress. |
| Not as good as the first arc but still way better than most arcs in other things. It was a little obvious who it was, but the details about everything were much less obvious. Kind of a weaker resolution as there wasn't anything like someone getting run over by a truck which made it more thrilling and suspenseful afterward. |
| Definitely not as good. The culprit was WAY too obvious. Hell, my 2nd choice for the culprit ended up being the assistant. Way easy, being able to know who it is before 1/4 of the way though isn't how a mystery story should be! It was still a very enjoyable read though, don't get me wrong! Onto volume 3! |
| While this arc was not as good as the first one it was still good. I really grew to love Maria even more after this arc. |
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| Predictable but the expressions were well done and like usual, the dialogues presented had an exquisite way of delivery. I can almost picture myself being in this novel at times with the way the characters are talking along with the narrative. Oh well, there's still room for another volume. But yeah, this one didn't impress me either. |
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| It would be better if the mc wasn't stupid and didn't fail to notice simple details like that voice being his. Overall unimpressive. |
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| quite nicely done, even though I feel like the author's story turned slightly into bullshit some parts in the middle. Is it just me or is this novel slowly establishing a harem around the male lead amidst strange "boxes" and complicated philosophical bullshiting rants? In that case then, harem ending plz! |
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| This was terrible. If the next volume isn't more like the first I'll have to drop it. |
VanishingKira said: Seem I was the only one surprised by the cliffhanger. nah not really i was surprised too! its looks like a hint for the next volume and Maria sure is the perfect (tsundere?) girl lol |
| I think the way the drama of that confession developed was way to forced... This wasn't all bad but I hope the next volumes will be better than this... |
| Was quite disappointed with Kazu's actions, went through more than 70 years together with Maria and he still wanted to betray her. tsktsk |
| Maybe Mikage-senei wrote this volume after reading Highschool DxD. :P |
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| Like what, he's been too busy thinkin' about all dem boobs? +) |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
| lol that why this volume focus on harem/fan-service more than strategies ;) |
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Takiya_lelouchi said: Where? I want it!harem/fan-service |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: -_-" it's a joke bro, since volume 2 drop in quality i just made some joke -_-"if you take seriously like that i don't know how to reply -_-" ( harem=> Mogi, Maria, kokone / fanservice =>At Maria's apartment etc )Takiya_lelouchi said: Where? I want it!harem/fan-service |
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| LoL, I've got your joke, and also replied with a joke, I thought it was quite clear. +) (Where? <= I think you're stretchin' it too far, dude.) |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Persona anime are good. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: haha ^^ maybe i just got too stress from work :P ^_^LoL, I've got your joke, and also replied with a joke, I thought it was quite clear. +) (Where? <= I think you're stretchin' it too far, dude.) |
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| I enjoyed it. Probably not as much as the first volume, but it was very nice. And maybe I'm stupid but I still thought Miyazaki was the culprit for a while xD What I didn't like is how damn weak willed Hoshino was this time. It's not like he ever was that strong, but come on, betraying Maria of all people? That was just stupid on his part. |
| Definitely the worst volume out of the 6 out so far, very obvious owner, but the interactions with Maria were nice though. |
| Personally I really liked it. But I believe that Kazuki's reaction to his predicament was kinda unrealistic. My enjoyment dropped a bit when we finally learn who the culprit is. Additionally Anyways, on to the next volume. |
| Not as engrossing and gripping as volume 1. Somewhat a drop in quality to say the least.. A little bit confusing here and there when the culprit identified himself as 'you know who' at first. The very last line of this volume excluding what the authors and others had to say was totally out of the blue.. I mean it was definitely what I was not expecting to happen. How did 'he' knew 'him' in the first place? This probably has to do something with the Rejecting Classroom. Hope that Vol 3 is as good or even better than Vol 1 |
| A fun & engaging read, but I have to agree with majority opinion that the first volume was indeed better. Mostly due to the fact that At least the surrounding mysteries and revelations were intriguing and the novel was still highly gripping. This is actually the first light novel I picked up, and tbh I'm enjoying the heck out of it. Onward ho to the next volumes! |
| There was a definite drop in quality from volume one. But becaouse the quality of vol 1 was set soo high even this vol was a really good read! I did have a few issues like then the actual cause became pretty anticlimactic. Hoped Kazuki would've tried to make amends with his freinds during the Seventh night in mud because he wants his everyday life right. and not Maria always bailing him out she did that way too much in this vol. |
| Besides the culprit being easy as hell to figure, I enjoyed a lot this volume. Man, Maria is growing inside me, and I don't dislike Kazu even with these actions of his. |
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| Man, the prose... a lot of the prose is so awkward and it made me cringe several times while reading it @_@ people over-explain things, a lot of the dialogue doesn't sound natural at all in English, and for crying out loud, STOP USING PEOPLE'S FULL NAMES! Yuuhei Ishihara, Yuuhei Ishihara, Yuuhei Ishihara, ARGH! |
LightBladeNovaJun 27, 2015 3:32 AM
| "Beyond the veil of cherry blossom petals blown by the wind - almost like their promised reunion - Feelings pile up with the passage of time: once the torrent of emotions comes rushing down, what is the spectacle that awaits?" |
wliu1998 said: she does.I'm kind of confused, like does Maria Otonashi remember what happened in the recurring classroom or no? |
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| People were a lot more disappointed in this volume than I thought. It was okay imo, but I'm glad it's most people's least favorite. That means the quality can only go up from here 😊 I didn't like how big of a deal they made of that scene of Daiya kicking Kazuki's ass. It felt a bit overblown after finding out the cause. I expected something a lot crazier. Miyazaki and Asami both being the antagonists felt too obvious, so I didn't expect Asami to be involved, but it happened anyway :p The revelation of O being inside Riko's body the whole time was pretty good though. And that cliffhanger! Seems like Daiya will be heavily involved in the next volume. He's probably my favorite and the most interesting side character of this series so I'm excited 😁 |
| It definitely wasn't a bad volume at all, but comparatively speaking, it was quite weak when compared to the first volume. It's biggest problem lies with how predictable the arc felt. It felt so obvious that Asami was the owner all along, especially since Miyazaki never mentioned the gender of his younger sibling. Also some moments just felt a little to forced between Maria and Kazuki, just to create a ship. And some outcomes were a bit too underwhelming. An example would be that moment when Daiya was beating up Kazuki. I thought Kazuki did something really bad to Kirino, but in the end it was barely anything. And things got resolved too easily between Kazuki and his friends. Though I would say that the premise of this arc was really interesting, even more so than the first arc. The concept of Kazuki not being able to control his body at certain moments and losing time as days go by was really intense. That being said, the execution was a tad bit lacking. Though there were some really neat moments in the series like Kazuki being handcuffed (twice) and when he realized that he didn't just confess to Maria only. But this, this arc was miles better than most things I've read so I can't necessarily hate it. But the cliffhanger at the end was nice and I hope Daiya plays a big role in the later arcs (since he has quite a mysterious personality). 4/5 |
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jinheanime34 said: wasn't as good as the first one but still amazing I guess Good news for you is that it's Pretty widely accepted (from what I've seen) that the second volume is the worst of the series |
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| It really does seem to be the weakest volume(I havent finished the rest so idk),same as Hikaru's volume 3 but it established something really important, the relationship between Kazuki and Maria so for that reason alone i liked it as for the tidbits Kokone cried because Kazuki pressed for a answer? Seriously? I was thinking more like he groped her or tried to kiss her or something similar but that really disappointed me Did he really deserve to be beaten up because of that? Stepped on? And he's(Daiya) not even gonna say sorry probably lol, anyway i can ignore this i guess I liked how they resolved it, Kokone probably 'likes' him but has Daiya on her mind too, Mogi is now more resolved i hope she is able to get out soon and Maria probably feels something different from love, they did spend 76 years together technically, she seemed really sad when he didnt remember most it though, think that will have an effect on future volumes |
Freestyle80Jul 20, 2017 10:30 AM
| Heh, since the cast this time ain't that many, it isn't that hard to determine who's the culprit and where is "0".... So the mystery cases isn't that amusing enough for me....And above all displeasing, is that Kazuki lost his sharpness from the beginning until almost the end of this volume. Just where did his sense of humor and confidence have run off to, damn it.. The good thing about this volume might be how Maria and Kazuki regained their close proximity again and who knows how it may progress more on the next issues. |
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| I thought this volume was fantastic tbh, not weak like most people said. I mean yea it was pretty easy to figure out the box user and all, but the development that both Kazu and Maria got was phenomenal. Bought the 2 first volumes, now on to the fan translations |
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Freestyle80 said: It really does seem to be the weakest volume(I havent finished the rest so idk),same as Hikaru's volume 3 but it established something really important, the relationship between Kazuki and Maria so for that reason alone i liked it as for the tidbits Kokone cried because Kazuki pressed for a answer? Seriously? I was thinking more like he groped her or tried to kiss her or something similar but that really disappointed me Did he really deserve to be beaten up because of that? Stepped on? And he's(Daiya) not even gonna say sorry probably lol, anyway i can ignore this i guess I liked how they resolved it, Kokone probably 'likes' him but has Daiya on her mind too, Mogi is now more resolved i hope she is able to get out soon and Maria probably feels something different from love, they did spend 76 years together technically, she seemed really sad when he didnt remember most it though, think that will have an effect on future volumes Yeah the part with Kokone was a real let down. I thought he tried to attempt to rape her or something in front of everyone but NO it was just a simple confession. This volume was so bad it didn't even do the drama part right |
| I enjoyed this volume. While it was pretty easy to figure out who was responsible for this mess and whole reason why Kokonoe was crying (I tought he either groped and/or isulted her, not just pressed for answer) were big let down, what was good in this vol. was relationship between Maria and Kazu (that makes me happy because I really like our main duo). Cliffhanger is also dope. P.S. I' m glad we have all volumes released in Poland, so I don't need to wait months for the rest of them (sadly I only have up to 3rd volumes, but I planed to buy rest of them when I get paid at the end of the month). |
| It was an "ok" reading. Tbh, I was expecting something way worse than it was when I heard this was the weakest volume. Even if it's nice to see some progression in the relationship of the main dual, those moments with Mogi being jealous were just too cute. Hope she still gets some attention from the MC before we dive in the main heroine route |
| It wasn't great, but still was better than the first volume. I felt that the first volume was unnecessarily contrived in its storytelling and several characters looked exactly where they needed to look for the plot to progress the way it did. Not to mention some of it felt dumb. In contrast, this volume felt more believable in terms of character motivations. Even though the culprit was predictable, it was actually interesting. I think this series would have been much better if the author didn't use first person narrative from Hoshino's viewpoint. His dumb thinking is frustrating to read. |
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