The Flowers of Evil
| Thanks to the lord they made it the way they did, the style is what makes it stand out even today. |
| very factual imagine hating the greatest anime ever made just because it doesn't have pretty colors |
Reply to Vasdeferens
very factual
imagine hating the greatest anime ever made just because it doesn't have pretty colors
imagine hating the greatest anime ever made just because it doesn't have pretty colors
| @Vasdeferens colors? The animation was done via rotoscoping in the worst possible way of doing it. It literally burned my eyes after 10 seconds of watching. Anime is an audio visual medium. Visuals ARE important too. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| Absolutely agreed,rotoscoping helped add a layer to the psychological & suspense aspects. But man episode 10 is the rawest show of human emotions I've seen in the medium |
| Can I Still Go To Heaven If I Kill Myself? |
| The unique visuals are one of the main reasons I watched it when it was airing, and probably the only reason I still remember it so well more than 10 years later. I don't think it would stand out so clearly in my mind otherwise. I think it's cool that they really went for it and tried something so different. I can understand why a lot of people had the reaction they did to it, since it was often uncomfortable and unsettling to look at, but I think that actually really worked for a series like this. |
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| Here I am, I dropped the anime after one episode. After seeing this thread I was thinking about trying it again, but I think I might as well read the manga instead (it was on my PTW for a while but I forgot about it). I trust your recommendation. |
| I read the manga after I watched the 2013 anime, and even though I loved it, I still prefer what they did with the adaptation. Loved the animation, it also had the best soundtrack I've ever heard and the single greatest scene I've ever watched in an anime. It is a bit sad that we'll never get another season, V2 was my favorite of the entire series. |
Welcome to the anime fandom, where superficiality reigns supreme and uniformity is acclaimed by the masses. Feel free to join us elitists, we have cookies and funny Evangelion memes. |
Prophetess of the Golden Era  |
We are all very sad about it, buddy. :´(   Anyway, life goes on. |
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| Absolutely agreed - remains one of my favorites to date (I didn't watch it weekly back in 2013 since I didn't start watching anime at all in general until 2016, so think I first watched the series sometime in 2019). A thriller which takes your breath away more than many others involving spies and assassins or battle royales between military units or criminal organizations. Because it's just about the nature of how your own small world (even smaller when/if you're still in school and/or in your hometown) can be flipped on its head and contorted day to day in unforeseen directions just based on your changing relationships with a small group of people around you, like friends and romantic interests, bullies or potential bullies, bullies turned friends, etc., and how greatly that can impact your identity and self-perception. And the drowning hopelessness of feeling trapped in your current life and station on one side of the hill, because you're a kid, because you have little to no money, because there is nowhere else to really go anyway. Etc. Except for mystery series where I don't like to read other people's guesses/theories/speculation while I'm still actively watching a series and would rather just allow the show to reveal it to me naturally in its own way on its own timetable (and I don't like to furiously theorize and play the role of an active participant either), on series of all other genres, around the time I'm first watching them, I like to go back and read the individual episode discussion threads or other threads from closer to when the series was released and still airing, on forums such as their sub-forums on MAL and other forums. And sometimes I skim over them very briefly and sparingly or even skip them almost entirely if the comments are too consistently obnoxious (like just a horde of the manga/LN/VN source material elitist/purist/supremacist types saying little else than how much better they find the source) or some variation of people all just saying the same thing. But not only has the power and way the ideas of the series were presented visually and in its writing left a positive indelible impression which has remained with me strongly to this day. But the ratio of negative-positive viewer reaction and engagement in terms of the lack of comments I saw actually appreciating, discussing, and exploring those aspects in comparison to those nonsense-type comments pitching a hissy fit just because the series dared to do something different and opted not to use the manga's art style (which, was perfectly fine and attractive, but was/is a more typical manga and anime art style which would have yielded a more expected and conventional product and result, as opposed to the rotoscoping technique they used which was infinitely more fitting and made this small story really come alive onscreen and imbue it with a sense of tension and existential dread partially directly tied to the visuals)....all that was such a disappointment to see as such a commonplace reaction and such a mark against the anime community's taste and tolerance, in my view. It really confirmed the extent of shallow superficiality. It's an endemic disease, and some seasoned and regular anime watchers shouldn't fool themselves into believing many of their fellow enthusiasts aren't just as reflexively rabidly closed-minded as any other group when it comes to the medium and individual artists exploring and experimenting with anything new. They try to shut it down right away like white blood cells attacking a bacterial infection. And it must be no small part of why there is so much increased timidity and conformity in the modern anime industry not to wander and stray off the reservation so as to not rock the boat and upset this mob. But eventually that stagnant air will all back up, build up, and suffocate us all, just as Sawa felt suffocated with the prospect of normal daily life in that class and a future in that town. _Kozue said: it's hard to believe Unfortunately, after reading the torrent of comments pertaining to it on this and other anime-related websites, even from people you would expect something better and more of an open mind from, and after seeing this experience replicated in other situations where great works of art or even just fun and entertaining series with a number of interesting things to say were dismissed out of hand early on in a kneejerk manner for equally facile reasons, I no longer agree that "it's hard to believe". It's now, regrettably, extremely easy to believe and even completely and entirely expected. Sickening, but no longer surprising. |
WatchTillTandavaJan 4, 10:11 PM
| , Aku no Hana—what a misunderstood gem. 💔 It’s genuinely disheartening to see how much backlash it received simply because of its art style. I completely agree with you; the rotoscoping technique brought a unique realism that added a raw, unsettling layer to the psychological intensity of the story. It wasn’t just another anime—it dared to be different |
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, Aku no Hana—what a misunderstood gem. 💔 It’s genuinely disheartening to see how much backlash it received simply because of its art style. I completely agree with you; the rotoscoping technique brought a unique realism that added a raw, unsettling layer to the psychological intensity of the story. It wasn’t just another anime—it dared to be different
| @RainyEvenings If they really wanted realism, make it live action. It's just a high school anime, no? They wouldn't even need CGI. |
| Cucumber ice cream is the best! |
| I still remember how controversial the rotoscoping for Aku no Hana was over a decade ago, enough where I got a fair number of folks on here ripping me apart when I said I didn't have much issue with it because of the more realistic look it gave the series to stick out and making its scenes more unsettling and tense in the interactions between Takao and Sawa. Won't deny it had its rough points because of being on a TV budget and having its fair share of shortcuts to conserve on the budget. But still stuck out for me among the titles I seen in 2013. |
| Aku no Hana is the only anime that i hate but respect. It will always live rent free inside my head. |
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