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Aug 22, 2019 11:14 AM
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Lately, I finish watching every episode of this anime with a sensitive heart. Tohru's words really touch my heart. It's amazing how you can soften the rebellious heart of a person, as he did with Hiro. She gives small but significant advice. I really love Tohru's character.
Hahaha, it's funny that a child so arrogant and annoying is the sheep, and Kisa who is so calm and sweet is the tiger.

On the other hand, CURSE AKITO !, always fuck the lives of others. He's a bastard, how dare he hurt Kisa, he's just a girl. I really hate him, I hope he pays for all the wrong he has done to his family members.
Aug 22, 2019 5:45 PM

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LilyGinnyBlack1 said:
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um so...when is the story gonna get moving? if i have to watch another episode introducing ANOTHER zodiac character without anything really significant happening i might just drop this...


The characters ARE the story. The characters and their relationships to each other are one of the central building blocks of this series. A lot of important setup for things have been happening in the past three episodes. This series is a drama at its core and this first season is setting up the characters and their initial relationships to and with each other via introductions and backstories.

Towards the end of this season and more so in the second season we will really start to see the drama and romance take an uptick and build off of the groundwork that is being laid in this first season. This is just the kind of series that Fruits Basket is, so this may not be a series for you.


Lily would be correct. Even in the manga (which the anime is following perfectly), the story doesn't really pick up until about volume 10/11/12 I'd say? I can't recall because my reread has brought me to volume 9 where we are still diving into different zodiacs. Now the anime has done some rearranging in terms of the source material but THIS IS a character driven series. The characters are the core foundation of the series and if you're not into the build up @sugarpeach, then I'd agree with Lily here and say this show isn't for you.

I'm actually really happy we're getting build up and I can see where the constant introduction to a new character can be overwhelming and seem like lazy writing, but there is a purpose to its narrative. Some of the main characters are more complex than others (i.e Kyo, Yuki, & Akito), but they all serve some kind of purpose/message. This is a coming of age story so it might not appeal to people over he age of 18 as it's about the curse itself ofc, but also the complexities of adolescence, growing up, falling in love, and overall just complicated family dynamics.
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Aug 22, 2019 11:59 PM

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What the bloody hell are these subtitles??? What even are these idioms LOL
Oh man subs were saying things completely wrong and fisting in all these random sayings that i never hear anyone use...

Official subtitles are evil. Good thing i know enough japanese to know what they're actually saying generally.
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Aug 23, 2019 8:13 PM

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It was nice to see Kisa again and knowing that she is doing well at school really warms my heart.

Hiro, on the other hand... what an annoying brat for God's sake. I mean, I can (to some extent) understand his behaviour, he's still a kid after all, but I really hope he shows up in the series as little as possible from now on.

P.S.: By the way, Akito can be burned alive for having sent Kisa to the hospital.
Aug 28, 2019 3:17 PM

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I was watching this with my friend Aisu and he kept making jokes about shooting the kid throughout the episode, a sentiment I see many people in this thread expressing in various ways, but I honestly kinda liked him. He's a little bitch, but a witty one. I thought he was funny.

But man, I get the feeling I'm missing many of the subtleties memeing over this show instead of actually paying attention. I missed that Akito beat Kisa -- going back to it, I see how it is very subtlely implied -- and this isn't the first time the discussion thread has highlighted some feeling or implication I missed out on.



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Aug 30, 2019 2:10 PM

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this show is siiick
yet another little annoying ~YET CUUUTE RIIGHT~ abuser-manipulator is presented to the viewer. oh wait.. what do i hear? what-what?? OH RIIIGHT. IT'S HERE. a SOB STORY. hmm. you know actually?? kinda like the kid now. god damn, he is not so bad honestly now i know he suffered some shit. poor child! he gets my official permission to beat the crap out of Tohru. if you live a troubled life you basically get a pass to abuse others. at least that seems to be a legit thing for the majority of ppl commenting here. mmmkay . . .
and once again Tohru is a 100% doormat which is presented like a good, heavenly, noble thing. been there myself done that. that's why i'm especially angry. i see my past self in her
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Sep 4, 2019 12:40 AM

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When Kyou grabbed Hiro by the collar, I wanted Kyou to headbutt the little shit so much!
Sep 4, 2019 7:21 AM

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I really hate Hiro. I hated this episode in the original series and I still hate it.
Hiro makes me ashamed to be born in the year of the sheep. Worst character
in the entire series by far. I like Akito more than him and Akito is a jerk.
Sep 5, 2019 4:46 AM
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Hiro such a brat but i guess i can see why he cant express his disdain with anyone and feels guilty with what happened with kisa so he takes it out on tohru even though its unfair to do so ,

its clear akito cant get in trouble at all as everyone is to afraid to go up against him/her and most likely has some influence as well and trying to do so would be pointless
Sep 7, 2019 11:38 AM

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This was a fairly good episode.

Hiro started out really annoying cause he's jealous of Tohru and since he's still a kid he can't do shit. (well, actually no one can do shit against the "head"... so I guess that didn't really matter if you're a kid or adult there)

But the end of episode was much nicer as Hiro now respect Tohru after her usual Life-inspiring speech, lol.

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Sep 8, 2019 4:06 AM

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Hiro and Akito should be locked together in a tiny room for eternity...
Sep 20, 2019 12:06 AM

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Hiro is just annoying tbh.

It also feels really weird for a kid to be talking about love...
Oct 13, 2019 4:51 PM

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hiro's pretty annoying.. hope if he shows up again he's matured up
Oct 20, 2019 10:55 PM

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So, Akito beat up Kisa. She is crazy lol.

Look, an annoying brat appears. Kyo should've beat him up. The weakest episode so far.


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Oct 22, 2019 9:07 PM
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The kid had a nice monologue at the end there; and that scene as the prince was gorgeous to see. I did end up feeling really bad for him, as he now must suppress his true feelings for the safety of Kisa..but goddamn he is the biggest brat with the most punchable face in any anime I've watched! I guess that's the point of his design and behavior though.. so good job...I guess..
Nov 10, 2019 2:27 AM
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Farabeuf said:
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That sheep boi is a complete arsehole. He needs to be taught, in a hard way. Kyo should've beat him up.



Couldn't agree more. Couldn't muster sympathy for him, even at the end. Treating Tohru like that has no justification at all.


Well, I was feeling like that before the late half, but I realized Akito is the fucking problem here.
Fuck that bitch, that one is the real problem here.

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I don't care what Akito is. He beat a little girl up so badly she was in the hospital for 2 week. Can someone just blow his brains out?

I think they did a poor job at explanning why the fuck Akito has so much power here, this is modern society, no matter what, a fucking head shouldnt be exempt of even shit like that, doesnt matter if she/he has personal traumas from his childhood or not.
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Dec 6, 2019 4:44 AM

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Lmao Hiro was so annoying at the start, but of course there's more to him than meets the eye!
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Dec 7, 2019 11:44 AM
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Manga readers in Fruits Basket (2019) threads should just. pretend they have never read the manga. The way you all spoil and can't let people share their reactions to each episode as they come is obnoxious at best. And I'm saying that as someone who owns all the volumes.

Watching this episode made me realize that. I do love Hiro. I guess his faults are similar to mine, or I can see my shadow in him.
Feb 16, 2020 10:20 AM

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Hiro was introduced as an annoying brat but as the episode progressed my annoyance turned into hatred, not towards Hiro, but towards Akito. Seriously wtf is her problem? For some reason I feel the show will try to redeem her later or make us sympathize with her which I doubt is going to succeed (if that happens that is)

But really, why are they even listening to Akito? Especially older clan members since I doubt Akito is that much older than Tuki or Kyo.
Mar 30, 2020 9:29 AM

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Hiro is such a brat, he's really annoying to watch. But I have a bit of sympathy to his situation. How fucked up is Akito in the head to beat up a child because another child has developed feelings for her? I'm curious really as to what the curse of the Zodiac is, since it seems very much like Akito is the worst curse right now. I don't know if there's any way to redeem Akito right now.

Still, I dislike Hiro the most out of every character so far because he's so annoying, but I understood him a bit more by the end of the episode. Maybe it was because of his total disrespect for Tohru, and that bit about her just being a mama's girl. You don't know shit, boy. He should've got a slap for that. And yeah, Tohru is just too submissive sometimes. She's not their maid or anything, she doesn't need to follow Hiro's condescending orders.

But I guess Tohru is just too kind and pure. Wish I could be like her.
May 8, 2020 6:56 AM

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Akito is pure evil.
Why does she have to hit everyone??



May 19, 2020 3:38 AM

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Aweee Kisa is such a sweetheart. Hiro can be a pain in the ass at first but I sympathize on what happened. Tohru is indeed a air head though lol But, Akito seriously? Beating up a child? That's child abuse!!!!



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Jul 6, 2020 6:09 PM

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Hiro isn't really my favorite, but he can be okay every once in a while x'D and he treasures sweet behbeh Kisa, so I'll forgive his brattiness a lil bit >:3
Oct 9, 2020 1:13 AM
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What a cheeky kid... constantly denigrating Tooru like that... I like him! This episode was really fun.
Dec 20, 2020 9:30 PM

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I really like Tohru, but she needs to learn how to stick up for herself (not just because of Hiro but others too). I hope she learns to do that as the story goes on.
Feb 22, 2021 5:14 AM

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Best romance of this series
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Feb 27, 2021 9:44 AM

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I get why this kid is so annoying, but ugh I really hate him xD He's just so rude to Tooru. I guess there's a lot more going on that we'll find out about soon.

Also, does anyone else just absolutely love Kyou??
Mar 16, 2021 12:12 PM

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A new character is introduced. Another zodiac, Hiro. He's a bratty kid. Acts like one and super annoying. And Fuck Akito.
Apr 12, 2021 2:25 PM

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These peep talks are becoming less intriguing and more forced. I mean what can you say about a stuck up kid that is too smart for his own Good? well shit looking from the outside he just need a good ass kicking lolz but then again that can make or break someone.

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Apr 23, 2021 6:38 AM

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hiro kid is a little bitch lmfao he's a kid he's afraid he's gonna hurt his loved ones yeah yeah whatever he's still a bitch. and im so sick of tohru being a doormat to everyone and she doesn't do anything about it
May 11, 2021 7:11 AM

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So for some reason, they don't blame Akito for whatever unpleasant thing he does. Is it because he's the head?


I hated that kid at first, but idk if still do since he got nice speeches in the latter half of this episode
Jun 1, 2021 11:40 PM

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Even if Hiro acts so nasty, I still like him pretty much! At the very least, I get to see Tooru handling more difficult personalities from time to time, which makes things a bit more interesting! I believe Kyou also had a bad attitude in the beginning of the series, but he changed pretty fast. I wonder if it will be the same with Hiro 😋?

It kind of scared me how bluntly Hiro asked Tooru if she could heal wounds of the heart. It felt like she was given away and that would have made her work harder 😅. However, I do admit that for Hiro it was a logical assumption after seeing what happened with Kisa. Even so, imho you cannot heal anyone's heart if that person doesn't actively participate to the whole process. Therefore, I would say that Kisa too has her merit in how things progressed for her.

I confess I was totally thrown off by what Akito did!😨 I thought that Akito had a problem only with couples where one of the partners was not from the zodiac! I even remember that, at the beginning of the series, Kagura and Shigure mentioned something about marriages between members of the zodiac being more suitable since the two could hug without transforming. Besides, wasn't Akito's aim to keep the zodiac members together? Hiro and Kisa are both zodiac members, so what is going on here?!? I think I need to see more of the anime to clarify myself 😅.

One more observation: Hiro and Kisa seem a lot younger than they really are!! I would say third grade at most 😂!
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Jun 28, 2021 12:45 PM

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Oh wow…………….
Jun 29, 2021 4:41 AM

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Wow what a annoying and obnoxious kid.
Jul 4, 2021 8:32 PM

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I have never agreed with anyone more when they said "I suck". Is there a "Wack your Hiro" flash game I can play somewhere. Holy shit.
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Jul 19, 2021 10:27 PM
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Hiro is the cutest goat I’ve ever seen ~ he’s just a little kid who likes a girl. How could he have known Akito would react the way she did? I really want to find out what’s wrong with that woman, but for now I’m content with Tohru just helping everyone find some peace.
Aug 4, 2021 9:21 AM

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I agree that hiro was annoying and rude but I like him. Tori, Yuki, everybody is scared of Akito and this kid went and talked to him which resulted in kisa getting hospitalized, it is definitely too much. he's trying to cope up in a way that's possible for him. But you know about the sohma in-house therapist Tooru, she's gonna change him.
Sep 9, 2021 3:41 PM

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Hiro is a demanding brat but at least nothing terrible like that piece of shit Akito for beating up innocent little Kisa after Hiro said he loves her because thats really messed up. Makes me wonder how the hell that mentally deranged guy is the head of the family.

Oct 11, 2021 5:34 PM
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FUCK THAT BRAT really annoy me i skip episode after first half because that BRAT!!
Nov 23, 2021 3:28 PM

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dunno why but i like hiro, though being an ass.

shigure and hattori are the reason the anime is interesting so far, wants more of that.
Dec 31, 2021 6:35 AM

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Hiro is such a shithead
he's the only character I truly hate in this


May 2, 2022 12:32 PM
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Akito is truly evil beating up a child like that
Jul 8, 2022 8:50 AM

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Hiro is so cute, little lamb 😂
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Well, we got introduced to a new zodiac animal, the sheep.

Man, was Hiro the biggest jerk or what to Tohru, Like, she really didn't deserve that, yet she was so forgiving towards him.

It was awkwardly cute seeing how he treated Kisa. He obviously has feelings for her, but didn;t know how to go about it. I really hope he treats her like a princess, and give her the love she deserves.

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Nov 5, 2022 9:13 PM
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Sorry, i hate that child.
Jan 28, 2023 10:51 PM

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Public execution for Hiro
Feb 7, 2023 4:11 AM
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hiro pissed me the fuck off but by the end of the episode i was able to understand him a bit more i guess 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
Oct 1, 2023 10:26 AM
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For now I don't like Hiro's attitude at all, even though he is just a child :S
Oct 4, 2023 6:53 PM

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Out of all the Soumas I’ve met so far, Hiro is definitely the one I don’t like the most. I mean I should be fair he’s a little boy and he has been through quite a bit so it seems with Akito ruining what bit of love he had for Kisa earlier on his life, to the point that not only did Akito ATTACK a little girl may I add but hospitalised her entirely for 2 weeks. 2 WHOLE WEEKS! That’s literally abuse right there! But even with that backstory and I understand how Hiro would act how he does, it’s no excuse for what he does to Tohru in this episode. I mean he literally acts like a spoiled brat to her, treats her like she was a servant and always acts like he’s smart when he doesn’t know a damn thing what’s going on. There were times that like Kyo I wanted to punch him but again he’s a kid and jeez he should’ve at least had a little bit of respect for Tohru instead of again treating her like crap.

Again there’s literally no excuse for him to act like this to a person he’s only just met and for what? For what? The fact that Kisa is around Tohru a bit more now? Never mind the fact that Tohru just HELPED HER be talkative again only two episodes ago because she was being bullied for being the quiet kid in school. It took not just Tohru but she had the help of Yuki, Momiji and Haru may I add so it wasn’t JUST Tohru that helped Kisa.

That being said I’m not gonna never lie but the interactions Hiro has with Kisa herself are pretty adorable I must admit. Tohru has no hard feelings for him though and just continues to be the sweetheart that she is.
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the goat zodiac, or should i say the GOAT zodiac haha im a goat zodiac btw
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