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dobinz said: needalist said: It is still a game. there is still the game mechanics. They are stuck in a GAME. but that's wrong. they are trap in fantasy world that has the rule similar to Elder Tale but it's not GAME anymore. as Shiroe always said. This is our reality It is their reality that they are trap in a game governed by its laws. They cannot die, but they have to live by or exploit that world's rules, which was developed my the game created and changed by the new patch. And how do you know that it is a fantasy world when the player believe to be stuck in a game ( did you got that from reading the light novel)? They are living their life because they cannot escape "from their reality". Beside they have knowledge of games events that would occur and the location of quests (like the magical bag quest). |
| >Leonardo the ninja frog >cowabunga This was the best log horizon episode imo. The animation seems to have improved a bit and froggy for the best character. 5/5 |
| Kanami is awesome. Period. |
| Record breaking for Log Horizon, yes. |
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needalist said: dobinz said: but that's wrong. they are trap in fantasy world that has the rule similar to Elder Tale but it's not GAME anymore. as Shiroe always said. This is our reality It is their reality that they are trap in a game governed by its laws. They cannot die, but they have to live by or exploit that world's rules, which was developed my the game created and changed by the new patch. And how do you know that it is a fantasy world when the player believe to be stuck in a game ( did you got that from reading the light novel)? They are living their life because they cannot escape "from their reality". Beside they have knowledge of games events that would occur and the location of quests (like the magical bag quest). The point the author is making for many episodes is that this world is in transition and is becoming real minute by minute and you still insist. The lore of the game is becoming real lore and a real fantacy world. That is why the weapons story start to become real and tastes and cooking become more real etc. Also we have NPC's turning to real characters with personality, the boundaries of servers etc disappear and just becomes a world you can fly, walk and swim. And yes they know about events buts still the events they know are changing also and the monsters aren't simply doing what usually they do in the game. So still some habits rules exist but those are changing too. In what kind of game can you turn an NPC into a real player like Shiroe did or create technologies that don't exist in the game like the adventurers started doing because of their knowledge in technology from their world? The way this is going i wouldn't be surprised if they start being able to die too. The world is transforming into a real fantasy world from a game. The author is shouting this to you threw the plot and you are still ignorant. |
| The plot is certainly expanding... both in story context and oppai size because GOD DAMN, KANAMI'S OPPAI IS HUGE!! Probably bigger than Marielle.. The Genius monsters appeared although I wish they had explained about them more clearly. I suppose with the way they handled Elias, it's no wonder the Ancients (supposedly very powerful) all died on their hands. |
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LazyLuong said: Surprise no one brought up the "Journey to the West" -> "Journey to the East" reference. They even have that white horse an everything too, lol. Question is, who's the pig, the buffalo, the monkey, and the monk, lol. Most people on MAL are Caucasians so its not surprising. I went back to look at it Monkey = Kanami Cannibal (buffalo??) = Keronardo Pig = The progenitor/paladin guy Monk = Coppelia |
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Monad said: needalist said: It is their reality that they are trap in a game governed by its laws. They cannot die, but they have to live by or exploit that world's rules, which was developed my the game created and changed by the new patch. And how do you know that it is a fantasy world when the player believe to be stuck in a game ( did you got that from reading the light novel)? They are living their life because they cannot escape "from their reality". Beside they have knowledge of games events that would occur and the location of quests (like the magical bag quest). The point the author is making for many episodes is that this world is in transition and is becoming real minute by minute and you still insist. The lore of the game is becoming real lore and a real fantacy world. That is why the weapons story start to become real and tastes and cooking become more real etc. Also we have NPC's turning to real characters with personality, the boundaries of servers etc disappear and just becomes a world you can fly, walk and swim. And yes they know about events buts still the events they know are changing also and the monsters aren't simply doing what usually they do in the game. So still some habits rules exist but those are changing too. In what kind of game can you turn an NPC into a real player like Shiroe did or create technologies that don't exist in the game like the adventurers started doing because of their knowledge in technology from their world? The way this is going i wouldn't be surprised if they start being able to die too. The world is transforming into a real fantasy world from a game. The author is shouting this to you threw the plot and you are still ignorant. My point is that it becomes a reality to the adventures and that it is no longer a simple game to them. They have to apply their morals onto NPC as well (To me, npc gain an update to become human). Even real life can be a game, what I am getting at is that they are trap in a man-made world, If the one responsible or creator wishes it, then the designer could change it (or it was their plan to make a digital world that will self-evolve). Isn't their mind trap in a machine that sustain their world, what if that machine is destroyed? I already know that the message of this episode was one to enlighten us on the fact that the people of the land are just as human and have their own lives. Beside, my whole starting point of this conversation was to ask how servers work because I don't know (doesn't matter all that much to me because it won't affect the story thus far, but just out of curiosity). Also just because I say Game, doesn't mean it can't be real. dobinz was saying that it was an alternative world than elder tale, but I am saying that it is still a game world, it is due to the update that it is no longer the same elder tale, it became more complex. dobinz's saying it is an alternative world make sense if you catagorize it as that world and this world (or the game world and the real world). Therefore, when I said the game world, I meant "that world" (at the core of it it is a game or fantasy becoming real). ...So I am getting at is that it is still the same game world created, but due to the updates, moral choices are involved. |
needalistJan 15, 2015 3:05 PM
Takuan_Soho said: The problem is that Kanami is the leader and Son Goku isn't, plus she is the one going "east" to gain enlightenment so that would make her the monk. I would suggest that Leonardo is the Monkey, the other two characters are following Kanami, Leonardo is the rebellious one. ... I'm just going by the picture on screen when the halfway break comes up. If you look at what weapons the characters are holding or what they're sitting on its very obvious. |
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| I'm sure we're ALL excited to see Kanami after all this time but SLOW THE FUCK DOWN |
| The anime quality improved a good deal, thank God. Guess we can call it Kanami effect. The world building in this one is really something. "You're just a tire-tube man." Lol. Man, I want more of Kanami's story. I am enjoying that a lot more. |
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| T-U-R-T-L-E Power! Better than average action, but pointless waste of time just to advance the plot one tick. |
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| So here we finally have Kanami, the leader of the Tea Party. She's joined by Leonardo, Coppelia, and Erius Hackblade. Erius is a progenitor, a non-playable character and Coppelia is a farming bot. Meanwhile, Leonardo is a freakin' teenage mutant ninja turtle. KR also appears with his badass red dragon who will fight a giant black dragon. And Leonardo took down Lasphere leaving Paps alone. Nureha is following Intix's orders, but little did Intix know Kanami is back. Hooray, we're going back to Shiroe and friends. (^_^) |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
| It is funny because I think that this change of pace is great, the last episodes were a bit boring to me. Kanami has set the rhythm! I'm hyped again! |
| Dude...they actually brought Leonardo in here lmfao. I'm loving his character and his crush on Coppellia, i'll ship that. It's amazing how even a farming bot is wandering around too. I really wanted them to continue with Kanami's story at least until they beat the boss in that area. Great episode! |
| Kanami best girl all of a sudden! <3 Also had quite a bit of nice action! Whats with peopling complaining that this was messy and rushed O.o, I actually loved the fast pace in this compared to more of the somewhat slow episodes. |
| More actions, bigger boobs.. Okay. |
| Kanami best girl from the start.. never beat the first girl HAHAHA. I hope they eventually meet up.. oh my gosh war ?? Always welcome wars. XD |
| Jesus this episode was all over the fucking place, this could of been kind of cool as a 2 parter but as it was this just felt so rushed, which blows cause we finally see the other server only for them to put so little effort into this ep. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Way better episode than usual. But still incredibly poorly paced. Would be nice if they ditched all that cake eating, tea drinking shit and actually got on with the fucking plot. |
| So glad to finally have a Kanami episode, but I'm not too fond of Kanami's Deen design: she reminds me too much of Tifa (including the too big boobs). Also she seems more of a dashing in nekketsu now, I'm not feeling all the wisdom that was hinted before, that's a shame. I wonder how she is in the books. |
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| Pretty solid action! Looking forward to see what's next! |
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| They could have easily made 3 episodes out of this. Wtf were they thinking? The only bad LH episode so far. |
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| What a way to introduce long waited Kanami and her OP team Probably the most action packed from what I've seen so far |
| Wait, so some members of Plant Hwyden are ex-Tea Party members???? O______O So they're like friends and enemies of shiroe now? Confused lol |
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| Obviously, Leonardo = Ninja Turtle but Kanami a tribute/inspired from Tifa of Final Fantasy? Interesting |
 "To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" |
| Nureha is the guild master of plant Hwyaden,i don't think so. |
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| Freaking loved this episode. Kanami's group is really interesting. A progenitor that shouldn't exist, maid Chinese bot and a Ninja turtle fan. ˇˇ Honestly, Kanami is really likable and skilled. I also like the Blonde elf, he really looks badass, hopfully we see him more. Leonardo stole the spotlight for me though. Not only is he fan of Turtles, quotes lines from the show, says ''My God!'' in English, but also is kickass companion. Really skilled guy. I honestly wouldn't mind fallowing their story a bit. |
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| wow who are these people. Honestly I'm confused. So this "apocalypse" affected the whole world and not just Japan? wait... there are other servers aside from Japan? wait again.. Japan is a server? I thought this game was exclusive to Japan only. Anyway how does one player transfer to one server to another if they can't do it like that horse did. If we're talking normal mmorpgs isn't it necessary to log out first before you can change servers? Or servers just mean "country" and you can transfer from one to another by means of traveling? And who the f is Nureha? She seems familiar but when she was shown in the previous episode I thought she was Kanami. and.. what the hell is Yamato? so many questions.. I'm so confused. And I think I should know most of these but I just forgot. This is what happens when you watch the second season a year after you watched season 1 and you don't marathon it. That or this show just sucks at story-telling. |
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| I like Kanami's personality but... her bo-(gets kicked by Akatsuki) are unnaturally huge for her, it's even BIGGER than Marielle's imo. And that TMNT knocked off is sort of cool I guess, WTF Chun Lu?! So many parodies!!! |
jack1ofdkindFeb 13, 2016 7:35 PM
| Great episode! Leonardo's fight was awesome! |
| Kanami is AWESOME! Love how the show actually shows a bot being a player ... a farm bot even ^^ Really cool fight and episode. |
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| A big ninja turtles fan. I wouldn't mind being that character. |
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jack1ofdkind said: I like Kanami's personality but... her bo-(gets kicked by Akatsuki) are unnaturally huge for her, it's even BIGGER than Marielle's imo. And that TMNT knocked off is sort of cool I guess, WTF Chun Lu?! So many parodies!!! Info about Kanami this is part of some1 comments in another forum copy paste: Kanami has full family, a doctor husband and a 3y old kid. That makes Kanami and Shiroe had feelings for each other when her kid was 1y old. IIRC it was implied that she left Tea party because she already had her husband+kid and had to move with her life, and her affection and love-interest for Shiroe were making her feel frustration, because of her situation IRL, so that's probably big part of it too.. Sadly Shiroe doesn't look/ed at any woman with love interest beside Kanami, and he already understand his position with her, so there's definitely no romance between them, more likely BFFs or sth since they hit a nice spot together. Nevertheless IIRC author said if when there will be love interest between Shiroe, at the end it will be Akatsuki. And it's kind of implied in the whole LN that every girl is more like a obstacle to express and pursue her feelings for Shiroe, since she overthinks that she's not worth to even be by his side compared to other friends/comrades and she's insanely anxious about this, but her obessive love pushes her to express her emotions more freely to not to lose Shiroe for other girls. |
| Woah Kanami's caught in the Apocalypse too! I see two Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fans. LOL Another NPC and a bot, it was honest enough to confirm it was a farm bot created by a Chinese money-laundering group...at this time, I suspect there were Russian bots too eh? I heard "My Gad!", not "My God!" when Leonardo exclaimed it. ROTFLMAO The Minami people are going East like Kanami too? To Akihabara? |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| So many characters I couldn't care less about. The fight sequences were nice at least; Lasphere became best girl in a matter of minutes. I miss her already. :'( This episode was a mess, but it was kinda enjoyable for what it was (mainly because Lasphere). Hopefully it should get a lot more interesting with a war about to happen. 6/10 |
| Plant Hwyaden is preparing a trip to the west, Kazuhiko was talking with KR about Kanami. In the past, in the chinese server, KR transformed/possessed a horse and encountered with Kanami, she was in her journey to the east accompanied by three characters, Leonardo, Elias and Coppelia. They encountered with a girl named Chun-Lu that asked them for help and they encountered an event that they confronted due to Kanami's will and the intention of protect NPCs (KR transformed back to his body and summoned a dragon), they defeated the villains Rasphuia and Papus. Indicus and Nureha boarded the train along with Mizufa and Londark with war intentions. It felt like another, but required story the one that follows Kanami, cause all the episode was about that. Leonardo looks like a cool character and it's funny how he's influenced by ninja turtles. So, KR knows a lot about where people are, but I still can't figure out how much in the past that happened, if KR is now in the west of Japan, maybe Kanami is in Japan too. A war is to come to Eastal. |
Atlas77Aug 25, 2019 8:59 PM
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| Screw this rushed bullshit. They had all the time they wanted to adapt this volume carefully and chose to cram it into one episode. Fuck, at least do it in two episodes, if you don't want to spend too much time away from the main cast. This was an atrocity and disrespectful to the volume of the LN in question. It sucks because LH usually takes its time to explain every nook and cranny of the story and the world of Elder Tale, and that's what sets it apart from other anime for me. I'm disappointed. |
| Kanami reminds me of Tifa from Final Fantasy VII, and now Chun-Lu which obviously refers to Chun-Li in Street Fighter. All those references got me hyped.😆 A progenitor is interesting! Who knows, with hard work(and twist of the story,) Rudy might become one too! |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| Focus on Kanami and her group... why not, they really put a turtle ninja guy in the anime? lol |
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| Ninja frogs aren't cool, you know what is? Ninja Turtles |
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| Kanami went alone through europe server, until arrived at the China server that looked very dormant with those dessert landscapes, only to met someone she always desired. Lol. Kanami first appearance looked very solid, a genki girl, but used a monk class as her character power. Well, well, what a combination. Her party members were actually rather unique. One america assassin that got trapped far from his home server, his outift was the uniqueness over everything. One NPC legendary knight and clerk that claimed to be a bot followed Kanami for a certain of their own reasons. At the end, her charisma as a leader was never lost, even after disbanding her old party. Even her desire as gamer and to met Shiroe were never lost after a certain years, and a certain conditions. The apocalypse united them all, without any mistakes. To hell with the Novasphere pack. Its just a damn reason to went to the east! KR actually had an interesting spell on him as a summoner. He could possessed another being, even could summon a dragon! Thats explained why he could understand that Shiroe already arrived at Akiba previously. He must be the real spy at Akiba with his Possession Spell. And finally i got to understand whose Kazuhiko was and why Tetra mentioned his name. They were actually a former member of Tea Party. At last, its looks like every former members of Tea Party already completed with their introduction, and so far more or less their intentions and motives were all be cleared, in a certain points. So, left aside Kanami own travel toward Yamato, lets see the deal with Plant Hwyaden. |
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| Wow, Kanami is hilarious and such a lovable character! The maid being a Chinese serve farming bot was amazing! I mean wow, that was just so unexpected... The progenitor questioning his existence and meaning of life, and Kanami being like "you're right there so ofc you're really" was honestly pretty philosophical: The famous hand argument by G.E. Moore against philosophical skepticism was basically this logic. Here's a hand. It exists. Therefore so does the external world. When you think about it, it's a pretty good start into what is reality and knowledge. |
 I say goodbye unto you, And with this parting, My most beautiful dream dies inside me... But I tell you goodbye, For the rest of life, Even if I spend all life thinking about you. |
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