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Apr 13, 1:39 PM

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How does a 3 year sentence which gets doubled every time he escapes land on a value of 888 is something I can't understand. The 8th time he escaped it would have been 768 years and then it would have doubled to 1500+. The only way I can think is if his remaining sentence was doubled so if he served 1 of the 3 years then they doubled the remaining 2. And then then it was 4 and if he again escaped after a few months, it became 7.xx or something like that....
@HellindiuM I said the same thing in a post earlier.

Even if we double up 1 and 2 it's still impossible.

Even calculating the months it's still not possible.

The only explanation is that doubling up is just an exaggeration used by the guy and the increasing was not a fixated amount.
Apr 13, 1:51 PM
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Lol of course they wouldn't catch Skinner that easily and early in the story, though this guy might be relevant later? Anyway it showed how many people are chasing for him, and it seems like they really localized him now.
Apr 13, 2:17 PM

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I went into this with grounded expectations. Don't expect that this series will be better than "Cowboy Bebop," "Space Dandy," or even "Samurai Champloo" for me, but I suspect I'll like it more than the other series that Watanabe has directed that I haven't listed. So far, that's proving to be the case. My prediction is that once we start learning more about these characters and their backstories that the series will improve and there might be some twists and turns in the narrative that'll also help (the animation and stunt choreography is nice, but that's enough). The opening song by Kamasi Washington is still amazing at the end of the day.
Apr 13, 2:47 PM

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Them being shot at with deadly intent for several minutes by various guys, then once the woman turned on the light going "oh, we're actually friends, huh?" was SOOO bad. So what if some bullets had actually hit someone, maybe even killed? This is shit writing.

Rest of the episode was okay.
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Apr 13, 2:51 PM
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Find him? Seems hard!!!
A bunker and error but...
...to end the episode appeared thousands of Skinner of the cameras, why?
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@Ranxomare Let's fill in the blanks... :)

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Apr 13, 3:10 PM
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For everyone questioning the compounding prison sentence...

The guy only had a three year prison sentence, but turned that into 888 years from repeated escape attempts. I think it is safe to assume he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Probably not best to take his math comments too seriously, lol.
Apr 13, 3:21 PM

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For everyone questioning the compounding prison sentence...

The guy only had a three year prison sentence, but turned that into 888 years from repeated escape attempts. I think it is safe to assume he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Probably not best to take his math comments too seriously, lol.
@KingYoshi The prison has also proven itself to be highly incompetent, so I can also see the math being a reflection of them going with whatever number after a certain point and not bothering to calculate the escapes correctly.
Apr 13, 3:24 PM
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@KingYoshi The prison has also proven itself to be highly incompetent, so I can also see the math being a reflection of them going with whatever number after a certain point and not bothering to calculate the escapes correctly.
@bucciest Haha, that is very true.
Apr 13, 4:16 PM
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So Let’s see here, the reasons why everyone’s in with Lazarus:

Axel: Serving a Looooooooong Prison sentence 888 years for just trying to break out of prison(I’m baffled at the fact that’s how much he tried to escape)

Doug: Misdemeanor

Leland: Petty Theft

Eleina: Hacking

Main question I have: What got Christina into Lazarus of all things? Maybe they’ll reveal it in the next episode or so?
Apr 13, 4:29 PM

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Uitari said:
anime is pretty decent for now - a bit too much of plot armor, but the worst thing is that climate change propaganda... sheesh, why don't they stop mix in political topics in anime, just leave anime be anime and not a medium for political propaganda, that's so annoying. It's as anime became the second hollywood bs...


I didn't see any "climate change propaganda" in this episode. You can dispute and disagree with theories or models of human-induced climate change, but even if you think it's all bunk, the scientist character Skinner having that as one of his core issues and motivations, to advocate for national governments and international bodies to enact policy on the environment and the climate, is not the anime itself propagandizing anything. Presenting a character with goals, beliefs and an ideology, etc. is never inherently an anime endorsing any of it. Its presentation is part of the story.
Apr 13, 4:50 PM
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Feels like a modern day Cowboy Bepop with the music and "dystopia" style world. Instead of cowboy outlaws, we've got outlawed anti-heroes seeking to safe themselves first. Everyone else in the end will be saved, but its a selfish quesst first
Apr 13, 4:58 PM

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Ah great, politics & climate change. JUST what I'm looking for in an anime.
You can really tell the influence western writers and adult swim has had on this. We'll see if its enough to kill it or not...
So far, this looks like another possible ADULT SWIM ORIGINAL Failure like Ninja Kamui or Uzumaki

2 episodes in and I don't care about or like a single character. The art direction is very boring and plain. Can't believe MAPPA is involved in this at all. Its like all the Adult Swim cared about was the vibe. retro aesthetic and trumpet riddled soundtrack more then anything. I'm pretty bored.

We should have a separate category for "WESTERN ANIME". Let's hope it stays small.

Once the hype dies for this show and its done airing its going to be sitting at 6.xx score. Mark my words.
Apr 13, 5:02 PM

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I'm trying to understand how the main guy gets a sentence of 888 years. We know that everytime he escaped the sentence doubled up and he started when it was only 3 years.

My math may be wrong but isn't it actually impossible to reach exactly 888? 😅
@Daredevil Maybe he served some time? so he had 891 years and served 3?
Apr 13, 5:16 PM

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This fails a lot at "Show, Don't Tell", huh?
Commented this on episode one, on how the anime has to SCREAM at us with TV programs saying how much society is in total chaos... and then all the scenes with people on the street are 100% calm.

Same goes here: Rather than showing us how Hapna somehow "worsened humanity" it just tells us that teenagers were using it to make lean.
Apr 13, 5:21 PM

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A less flashy but better ep 2. The plot thickens...
I wonder if Herch considers the team expendable, like Amanda Waller did with the Suicide Squad.. Except of course in this story if they fail they all die anyway.
Apr 13, 5:24 PM

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anime is pretty decent for now - a bit too much of plot armor, but the worst thing is that climate change propaganda... sheesh, why don't they stop mix in political topics in anime, just leave anime be anime and not a medium for political propaganda, that's so annoying. It's as anime became the second hollywood bs...
@Uitari Dude, go lower your score for "Cowboy Bebop." If politics in anime irks you this much, then the score for "Cowboy Bebop" should not be as high as it is since that anime is full of it - unless you were watching the series with your mind turned off or through rose-tinted glasses. You're one of those people who think anime only recently became political and that's why you're all now making a fuss about propaganda even though anime has always dealt with politics, past and present Watanabe anime included. Not to mention the "Hollywood bullshit" which Cowboy Bebop is just as influenced by if not more. The only thing I can agree on is that Hollywood sucks at handling politics, but it's too soon to tell if "Lazarus" will be better or not than it.
Apr 13, 5:30 PM

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anime is pretty decent for now - a bit too much of plot armor, but the worst thing is that climate change propaganda... sheesh, why don't they stop mix in political topics in anime, just leave anime be anime and not a medium for political propaganda, that's so annoying. It's as anime became the second hollywood bs...
@Uitari When the world around you burns it stops being political. Reducing the entire fate of the world into merely... "political topics" and "political propaganda" is in itself a profoundly political act.

With that being said the climate crisis is not central to this story; it serves as the apparent motive of Dr Skinner, but the Lazarus team are not climate crisis warriors.
Apr 13, 5:58 PM
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Uitari said:
anime is pretty decent for now - a bit too much of plot armor, but the worst thing is that climate change propaganda... sheesh, why don't they stop mix in political topics in anime, just leave anime be anime and not a medium for political propaganda, that's so annoying. It's as anime became the second hollywood bs...


I didn't see any "climate change propaganda" in this episode. You can dispute and disagree with theories or models of human-induced climate change, but even if you think it's all bunk, the scientist character Skinner having that as one of his core issues and motivations, to advocate for national governments and international bodies to enact policy on the environment and the climate, is not the anime itself propagandizing anything. Presenting a character with goals, beliefs and an ideology, etc. is never inherently an anime endorsing any of it. Its presentation is part of the story.
@WatchTillTandava
the fact that this topic is one of his core issues/motivations is part of the propaganda trying to indoctrinate it to the viewers, same as hollywood is trying to stick certain current ideologies into the ppl
being a proponent of climate change ideology would never be a part of the core motivations in the past 'cuz it wasn't sth propagated so hard as it recently is
and it's not a character that is depicted as some dumb idiot, but rather a genius and even a saint-like person
Apr 13, 6:05 PM
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@Uitari Dude, go lower your score for "Cowboy Bebop." If politics in anime irks you this much, then the score for "Cowboy Bebop" should not be as high as it is since that anime is full of it - unless you were watching the series with your mind turned off or through rose-tinted glasses. You're one of those people who think anime only recently became political and that's why you're all now making a fuss about propaganda even though anime has always dealt with politics, past and present Watanabe anime included. Not to mention the "Hollywood bullshit" which Cowboy Bebop is just as influenced by if not more. The only thing I can agree on is that Hollywood sucks at handling politics, but it's too soon to tell if "Lazarus" will be better or not than it.
@bucciest
it's some time ago i've watched Cowboy Bebop but i don't remember it being political propagated - there's no current thing that is far fetched or anything as fas as i remember
and i don't mind if politics is presented in anime at all, but i hate it if current political topics that is being propagated IRL is also being propagated in anime
Apr 13, 7:24 PM
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can someone tell which version is better, Japan or America, I mean which has less dimming and better voice acting?
Apr 13, 7:53 PM
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This episode was boring, there weren’t any cool action scenes, and the animation quality dropped — there were still-frame moments where they didn’t even animate the characters' mouths while they were talking. Nothing relevant happened in the episode. It gave a few details about Skinner, but nothing exciting occurred, and the whole thing was super predictable. They wasted time chasing some random guy thinking he was Skinner, and the reveal about who he actually was wasn’t even interesting.The writing is really bad
Apr 13, 8:02 PM
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Dr. Skinner gave a speech about climate change, and claimed that the ice caps would melt in [i]3 years[/i]. He also disappeared for 3 years. Coincidence!?! I think not...

...Then again Axel's prison sentence was also three years long. Maybe the creator really digs the number 3 :p
Apr 13, 8:05 PM
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the drug administration does not know the hapna drug mutates then

@deg dude this was so hilarious to me XD
everyone's gonna die in 30 days and people are still out here trying to blame the government for shit :sob:
Apr 13, 8:15 PM
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This episode was boring, there weren’t any cool action scenes, and the animation quality dropped — there were still-frame moments where they didn’t even animate the characters' mouths while they were talking. Nothing relevant happened in the episode. It gave a few details about Skinner, but nothing exciting occurred, and the whole thing was super predictable. They wasted time chasing some random guy thinking he was Skinner, and the reveal about who he actually was wasn’t even interesting.The writing is really bad
@SatanLopes You nailed it. The creator really peaked at Bebop and gone continuously downhill. At least champloo was decent
Apr 13, 8:19 PM

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starting to understand that cool visuals and actions scenes is gonna be what keeps me here because it's not as good as i was hoping, though it's still better than bebop so far. that chick reminds me of fujiko mine a lot, but a little lost.
Apr 13, 8:36 PM

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While not as good as the first episode it was still fun. I hope they develop the characters well, so far only the protagonist seems to have unique and charismatic character writing.
Apr 13, 8:45 PM
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The characters aren't that engaging, it could be that the dub isn't good. The storyline has potential, but it only works if we end up caring about the characters. When comparing it to Michiko & Hatchin and Cowboy Bebop, there's just no love here.
Apr 13, 8:46 PM
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Damn Suicide Squad Isekai season 2 is real
Apr 13, 9:01 PM

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"I'm not driving with Leatherface."

Bro legit got 88 years because he kept escaping prison so much for a three year sentence. What the hell?! That made me laugh. The OP is really a nice bop. It's nice to get an instrumental for the OP. The ED is such a vibe. I really do love our main cast and their dynamic I'm wondering what they all did to get here. We can assume so far they're former criminals. Doug is legit only here because of a misdemeanor is wild though. Just how dangerous is Helena? She looks so nice. Also it seems Skinner is a crafty fellow. This sucks it will only be a season but I'm interested to see how it handles its story. The animation is REALLY good though.
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Apr 13, 9:05 PM
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So they continue to look for the doctor, but so far they are 0 for 2, lets what will happen next
Apr 13, 9:07 PM

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It’s crazy how one episode can change your entire perspective on a story or character. Growing up is realising Dr. Skinner is the good guy and humanity are the bad guys.

Dude dedicated his entire life to the betterment and advancement of the human race, didn’t even patent all the lifesaving medicines and inventions he made and genuinely would give the shirt off his back to a stranger, yet the moment he started preaching about shit that would impact the top 1 percent’s profits like combatting climate change, everyone laughed at and ignored him. The dude lauded as the next Einstein who had done so much for the world, but you doubt him on this lmao. The US walking out of that UN assembly speech on climate change had me cracking up because it’s sadly all too real.

Wiping out humanity with a miracle drug might seem a little harsh, but in Skinner’s mind he’s not doing anything humanity aren’t already doing to themselves. He told them The North Pole is literally gonna melt in 3 years which would mean the end of life as we know it and they ignored em but want to act all scared after he revealed that a drug would do the same 😂 yea we stand with Skinner.

The Lazarus crew are coming together well, Axel continues to be funny af. “We’re like the avengers”, uh more like the thunderbolts or suicide squad actually buddy lol. Christine kicking him out the car when he said how much time he was serving in prison had me dying too. Generally felt like a set up episode to introduce us to Lazarus team dynamic and give context on Skinner’s actions. It was fun tho.


Chad Stahelski’s involvement starts with this episode as well, not a ton of fights today, but you could see the influence briefly. Can’t wait to see what they cook up later.
@Marinate1016 Glad to see you on this one man. This show is already a banger for me. I really like the premise and this second episode really builds on top of it. I agree with you on Skinner and his possible rationale of wanting to end the world like that. It was nice way to bring in current social and political issues to the show too. I will say what he said about thriving economy is so true as the people who ignore the climate just care about money.
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Apr 13, 9:08 PM

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Them being shot at with deadly intent for several minutes by various guys, then once the woman turned on the light going "oh, we're actually friends, huh?" was SOOO bad. So what if some bullets had actually hit someone, maybe even killed? This is shit writing.

Rest of the episode was okay.
@MyllerPhiem I mean they only got like 30 days. So they're on edge. I don't see how it is bad writing as it shows you how irrational people are during times of end of the world scenario.
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Apr 14, 12:28 AM
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This anime is SO good Idk why some people are rating it low
Apr 14, 12:35 AM

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Even the OP looks like it's highly influenced by Cowboy Bebop. I read somewhere that the creator of Cowboy Bebop initially wanted to make an anime that's more like Space Dandy but was pressured by Western producers to make it more "serious" like Cowboy Bebop. Did those people never watch Bebop? Cowboy Bebop probably had more silly episodes than serious ones.

Welp. This anime's probably still going to be decent, but it probably won't be the big hit that the bigwigs were expecting. Like, I didn't expect the story to be about a discount Suicide Squad, which itself became a parody of itself in recent years lol.
Apr 14, 12:37 AM

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@Daredevil Maybe he served some time? so he had 891 years and served 3?
@xXTensaZenXx I thought about it but the number can reach 700ish or more than 1000, if I'm not wrong. Maybe with some other calculations we can reach a number near 888, but I guess that it was simply cool to use the number 888 and the author didn't think too much about the increasing amount.

Or maybe Axel did in fact killed a bunch of people and he was lying, eh eh eh.
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Apr 14, 12:44 AM

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I found it a little peculiar how everyone’s spiraling into panic over hapna like the world’s gonna collapse in exactly 30 days. like yeah that’s when it’s supposed to claim its first victim, but it’s not like everyone took the drug exactly three years ago. the deaths are gonna roll out in phases, probably peaking somewhere around 4 to 6 months in

given how fast hapna went mainstream, a widespread crisis is inevitable, just not immediate. so yeah, the gov panic and civilians screaming “world’s ending” makes emotional sense, but logically? doesn’t really hold up

what got me tho is how quickly the lead just accepted they’ve got 30 days to fix it all. felt a bit reductive tbh. these people are supposed to be criminals, not the type to buy into hysteria. it’d be way more interesting if they acknowledged the real timeline and played it smarter. it’d actually fit their vibe better—cool, detached, maybe even morally grey

small detail yeah, but it changes the whole tone. the story could hit way harder if it leaned into that nuance and let the stakes build more naturally over time

or maybe it's too early to say all this. probably something more interesting is waiting for us........
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  • I don't like the happy-go-lucky Americanized style of the show.
  • Daredevil said:
    I'm trying to understand how the main guy gets a sentence of 888 years. We know that everytime he escaped the sentence doubled up and he started when it was only 3 years.
    My math may be wrong but isn't it actually impossible to reach exactly 888?
    log2(888/3) = 8.21. 888/(2^9) = 1.7344. If he failed jailbreaks 9 times in a row when his remaining term of imprison is 1.7 years, it becomes 888. Of course, other patterns can be think of. Anyway, it means the stupid fellow failed many times.
Apr 14, 2:38 AM

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Ahhh... It's such a fun ride. LOL. Axel is just so carefree, surrounded by people who actually are worried. Christine is very pretty and charming. Doug is cool. Eleina is reserved but cute. Leland is just your casual kid. Loving the main cast already.

It seems like Dr. Skinner tried to warn all of the countries in the UN and tried to tell them the consequences humanity is going to face if it kept going in the same direction, but they didn't listen, so he took the charge in his own hand and now Hapna is a ticking time bomb. Really cool stuff. I love the environment the show has created so far.

And, now we are up against another problem of having so many Skinners walking around the world.
Apr 14, 4:03 AM
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I feel like this show spends too much time on action and humour. Two episodes have passed, and I still don't really care about any of them, except for Axel and Eleina, only because she is cute.
We need more lore drops instead of 100500 driving shots, because if episode 3 won't deliver, at this point, I don't know how they will make anime more interesting.
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Apr 14, 6:52 AM

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Skinner's speech was about how in 3 years time all of Antarctica would be melted and hapna mutated after 3 years, is this going to be a kind of situation where he made this get people to confront the reality of it/to force governments to act on it (something like that)

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Apr 14, 8:40 AM

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Boring AF, with a meaningless action sequences, no humor, jazz music feels out of place.

Watanabe tries to make another Cowboy Bebop but he will fail. Not surprising after embarrassment called Carole & Tuesday.
Apr 14, 8:51 AM
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I had 2 wishes before getting into this anime.
1. Having other groups also search for skinner.
2. The people of the world actually start to die/skinner to not be found on the 30 day mark/or not be found at all
Watching this episode I thought how funny it would be if we actually found skinner in EP 2 and then see the story spiral from there.

Regardless to say I already got one of my wishes fulfilled seeing other groups in action as well. I would love more interaction with other groups and their approaches (we got a sneak peak here) but since this is only episode 2 am not complaining. Overall a great episode can't complain yet.
Apr 14, 9:23 AM
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I feel like this show spends too much time on action and humour. Two episodes have passed, and I still don't really care about any of them, except for Axel and Eleina, only because she is cute.
We need more lore drops instead of 100500 driving shots, because if episode 3 won't deliver, at this point, I don't know how they will make anime more interesting.
Jason DeMarco, let directors do what they love to do, not what you think Adult Swim "needs".
@Gekko_ua Jason deja libertad creativa, lo único que pidió era un show de acción y dejaba a watanabe hacer lo que quisiera
Apr 14, 12:06 PM

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Although the FDA could not determine that Hapuna was a drug capable of mutating, it always amazes me how hypocritical the media can be. No health organization could have known this would happen, and no one objected to consuming Hapuna. Now that the world is on the edge of the abyss, it is much easier to look for culprits.

What happened at the UN was the straw that broke the camel's back. Skinner went from being a saint helping the world to a genocidal maniac. It was obvious that it would not be easy to track him down, but now that there are copies of him, it seems downright impossible.

I don't know why it took me so long to realize that this has similarities to the premise of recruiting a team like in Suicide Squad.
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this ep gave me Suicide Squad vibes. Hersch is like Amanda Waller gathering random people with different talents but no connections to each other, taking them to a mission to save the world.
I'm curious how the story will unfold

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anime is pretty decent for now - a bit too much of plot armor, but the worst thing is that climate change propaganda... sheesh, why don't they stop mix in political topics in anime, just leave anime be anime and not a medium for political propaganda, that's so annoying. It's as anime became the second hollywood bs...
@Uitari Climate change isn’t propaganda you moron it’s just a fact
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What are they? Some kind of suicide squad?
Please stop, I don’t want to see any more Dekugo😭
Apr 14, 5:06 PM
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Axel fashions Lazarus as the Avengers, but this group is more like the Suicide Squad. The series continues with its nonchalant pacing in spite of the seriousness of the situation. But, the pace reflects on the approach of Axel, and company. They really have little to lose so might as well just be chill, and go for it.
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The reason behind Axel's 888-year long imprisonment felt lazy. Also, are we sure the maths are correct here? Because I don't think you can reach 888 years based on Axel's explanation... anyways, let's just say he tried to escape around eight times and call it a day.

Another so-so episode. I kinda like the dynamic within the main cast but that's it.
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So what do we think? Is the CB aesthetic gonna carry it through, or just set a bar higher than it can clear?

This prison break free running kid is clearly really into this job, in spite of his pretense at not wanting to be controlled. After all, if he really wanted to escape, he could just cut off his hand and remove the armband. It wouldn't even hurt if he took enough hapna. I bet he could find some black market doctor to do the whole operation before they caught up to him. But he doesn't reeeeally want to escape. He's having too much fun.
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