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| Damn, that's a nasty arm injury. Kenshin is also pissed and who can blame him? This episode was an emotional one from his perspective. Plus, when he is angry, Kenshin's skills are scary. I wish Yahiko didn't get himself involved so much in this fight. I do admire his courage in the face of danger though, especially someone of his age. |
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| I’d blame that kid’s blind faith over Raijuta as one of the reasons for whatever eventually happened to him, I mean that big man has the face of such a cliche villain, so something like this was always on the cards. Anyways, I liked how Kenshin fulfilled his promise and rightfully went to take Raijuta on as if it was the most normal thing lol. By the way, that whole fight sequence with Raijuta employing his Tobi izunas left and right, and meanwhile Kenshin dodging every bit of them was straight up dope. And funnily enough, Raijuta still talking shit while being overwhelmed by Kesnhin’s defence at the same time kind of makes him look like a clown, if he wasn’t already this whole time. Though, then came the moment of truth, and Kenshin completely and thoroughly beat the daylights out of Raijuta. Hilarious how he was claiming to change the landscape of swordsmanship in their country when he couldn’t even cut or harm his hostage, Raijuta that is to Yahiko. He’s no manslayer, in fact he’s a coward, and quite honestly leaving him the way, Kenshin and co. left him was the right way to deal with Raijuta and conclude this arc. Even the kid got his happy ending sort of. Bless his rich dad;) |
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| Physical injuries aside having his master that he adored betray him like that must had been devastating. Im guessing Raijuta didn't get the memo that said not to make Kenshin angry. Powerful as it is The Tobi Izuna barrage is only ever useful on the field itself. In the end Raijuta was just nothing more than a fraud who knew not what was needed to kill. Considering the trauma that Yutaro received leaving for a new start is perhaps the best option. Gotta respect his determination to keep pursuing his dream though. The final shot showing the attendance cards at the dojo was a nice touch and an excellent way to end this arc with. |
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| Raijuta was mindbroken, while Yutarou was heartbroken. |
| It's nice to see Yahiko standing up for Yutaro like that—a true friend. Poor Yutaro, though. Lol, Sano's just being a bit of a troublemaker. Not that I blame him going up against him. Kenshin's return is quite the spectacle. The concept behind that sword's design seems a bit far-fetched when you consider the required physics, but, hey, it's anime. You're speaking the truth, Kenshin. Honestly, it makes Raijuta slightly more admirable that he didn't resort to killing just for the sake of it or to show off, especially knowing he's faced other challengers. Plus, considering Raijuta learned all this solely from a book, that's a commendable level of dedication. He may be difficult, but he's not the most detestable character I've come across in stories. There's something undeniably amusing about Kenshin tossing his sword like that. And then Raijuta goes and manages to make himself look even more pitiful. Yahiko's got some serious balls. |
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| im just glad this mini arc is over an we getting close to Saito |
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Perrin4869 said: No badass, half shirtless Kenshin π₯ For a show that aims for manga authenticity, it does miss some of the more interesting iconography... Indeed... hopefully they do it for the Kyoto Arc. But atleast we still got long hair Kenshin ! |
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Perrin4869 said:
No badass, half shirtless Kenshin π₯
For a show that aims for manga authenticity, it does miss some of the more interesting iconography...
No badass, half shirtless Kenshin π₯
For a show that aims for manga authenticity, it does miss some of the more interesting iconography...
Indeed... hopefully they do it for the Kyoto Arc.
But atleast we still got long hair Kenshin !
| @Alexioos95 both anime versions did Raijuuta dirty π€£ Raijuuta can't catch a break π₯ Edit: well, the added choreography after the Hiryuusen was a great touch, it is really goofy in the manga how he manages to knock him off just by throwing the sword at him, so kudos! |
| Rajiuta talks big but can never come close to fully killing someone, as one who has killed many, Kenshin exposes. Yahiko betted on Yutaro still being able to wield a sword with his left arm. When he put his left hand above his right last episode, I wondered if he was left-handed. |
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| The fight between Raijuta and Kenshin slapped, especially for that final moment where Kenshin used his own technique for fighting while out of range, it worked like a charm lol. And one thing i definitely wasn’t expecting was that Raijuta has never actually killed someone before, he spouted all this stuff about murderous swords and ironically never actually did the deed himself, it’s a good thing he hasn’t really like Kenshin said at the end of the episode, but he sure isn’t happy about it based on that final scene where he nearly killed the innocent granny and kid. This has me wondering if Raijuta will ever be relevant again or if this is it for him, but it was a good arc for sure. And during last week’s episode discussion I mentioned that it’s upsetting Yutaro and Yahiko can’t be rivals anymore, well I was thankfully wrong if that scene before Yutaro left for Germany wasn’t proof enough, I’m glad these two lads still have a fire lit within them even if they’re apart. |
| kenshin just had a HIM moment, hiten mitsurugi-ryu is never not fire. what a conclusion. |
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Good episode.. Kenshin is really cool, I really like him! (^_^γ‘β ) |
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Good episode.. Kenshin is really cool, I really like him! (^_^γ‘β )
| @Jonas-K Oh yes, Kenshin is so awesome ( I got excited seeing Kenshin hair loose) eyes candy for the fangirls, lol π |
| AGAIN, THIS WAS PEAK SHONEN KENSHIN IS SO WISE, HE LITERALLY "KILLED" A MAN JUST BY USING WORDS OF WISDOM 10/10 |
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actuallytom said: I read the Manga many years ago so I don't remember, but when will Shishio finally make his appearance? That's what I'm waiting for right now |
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| wonderful episode full of feels. i can't remember from the old show if yutaro comes back but i hope he does. |
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Raijuta was mindbroken, while Yutarou was heartbroken.
| @Uguu_Tsukimiya Ahh Raijutsu, the worst of all Kenshin villians. |
| A nice mini arc, nothing much to say about it. It showed how sword technique and swordsmen are changing with modern time. Hopefully Yutaro will be able to get better. |
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| I'm little disappointed with the conclusion |
| This wasn't quite the conclusion I had expected at first, if I'm honest. It's fine either way. Especially considering how hard and deeply Kenshin's words affected Raijuta. The best example of this would be the ending where Raijuta tried to kill the elderly lady and her granddaughter and was still unable to do so. Raijuta was just someone who put on a facade by talking about murderous swords, even though he himself had never been able to kill a human being before. As Kenshin made it clear, Raijuta doesn't even understand what it means to take this path. I myself can understand only too well how Yutaro must feel. Knowing that you will no longer be able to pursue a sport, a hobby or a life goal could not be described in words. It is like falling into a never-ending hole with no hope of ever escaping it. Especially at a time like this, you need one or more special people to help you get back on track. In this case, it was Yahiko. I don't think Yutaro even understands what Yahiko did for him at the train station. Hopefully he can find the help he needs in Germany so that he can settle the score with Yahiko when he returns to Japan. Overall a good episode. Nevertheless, I'm glad that this mini-arc is now over and we can embark on a new adventure. |
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| Raijuta might be an ass, but to think he actually never used the sword to kill people. Now that's something I'm not expected. Still the big man actually killed some boy dream and hope over his big shoulder, which actually kinda worse than becoming a manslayer. Wishing him to get a repent day and doing some good deed instead of too obsessed with those shallow ambition of him, and the boy also can forget all the nightmare with his sensei and move on to become a one fine swordman with Yahiko, in the future... |
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| You got what you deserve loser Raijuta. Love that part away scene from Yutarou and Yahiko. Now this two part episode arc is over, i wonder what's next? |
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Perrin4869 said: No badass, half shirtless Kenshin π₯ For a show that aims for manga authenticity, it does miss some of the more interesting iconography... What a shame. That would've been so cool to watch. |
What an episode.
Great episode, lots of emotional and philosophical content. |
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No badass, half shirtless Kenshin π₯
For a show that aims for manga authenticity, it does miss some of the more interesting iconography...
| @Perrin4869 I guess its because of the meaningful or realistic perspective. Because he has the half-cut shirt that means it hurts his body from the vacuum action of Izuna. But It is not possible to show without getting hurt. That's why we missed the badass scene of kenshin. But I am okay with this scene. At least they have shown his long hair without his ribbon. |
KenshinXHimura said: It is disappointing they basically retoconed Do Ryu Sen. In the 2 instances it should have appeared, it didn't. Back vs Kihei and now vs Raijuta. I know it's useless , but... Kenshin did not used the Doryuusen against Raijuta in the Manga. In their 3 whole fights , Kenshin just blocked his katana one time on the bridge , and knocked him out with the Hiryuusen. The rest of the time , he was simply dodging. It's in the 1996 Anime where they added that bit , because they had removed it with Kihei at the beginning. |
Alexioos95Oct 29, 2023 2:16 AM
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@Perrin4869 I guess its because of the meaningful or realistic perspective. Because he has the half-cut shirt that means it hurts his body from the vacuum action of Izuna. But It is not possible to show without getting hurt. That's why we missed the badass scene of kenshin.
But I am okay with this scene. At least they have shown his long hair without his ribbon.
But I am okay with this scene. At least they have shown his long hair without his ribbon.
| @Miraz_Un_Nabi oh don't get me wrong, this anime has been consistently very good at adapting fights and I enjoyed this one as well, lack of shirtless Kenshin is not a deal-breaker. Although it is one of the cooler things about this scene too π
As for the reasons it was done this way, maybe there is some creative justification, but if you allow me to put on my cynic hat again, it's probably they didn't want to bother putting together a half shirtless Kenshin design just for this one time, and then animating it. The Raijuuta arc is not that popular to begin with (personally I think it's underrated), so maybe they are saving the resources for the immensely (and rightly so) popular Kyoto arc. |
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It is disappointing they basically retoconed Do Ryu Sen. In the 2 instances it should have appeared, it didn't. Back vs Kihei and now vs Raijuta.
I was hoping it being abscent with Kihei meant they wanted to give Ryu So Sen a highlight, while they were keeping the Do Ryu Sen highlight for the Raijuta fight.
Guess it can be taken as them giving the highlight to Hi Ryu Sen vs Raijuta and keeping Do Ryu Sen for later, but the thing is in the manga it's never used again....
If it was for the sake of realisim, it makes no sense as ther are other moves that are even less realistical. It being a ranged move it would have been ideal to use vs Raijuta, as in the manga.
I was hoping it being abscent with Kihei meant they wanted to give Ryu So Sen a highlight, while they were keeping the Do Ryu Sen highlight for the Raijuta fight.
Guess it can be taken as them giving the highlight to Hi Ryu Sen vs Raijuta and keeping Do Ryu Sen for later, but the thing is in the manga it's never used again....
If it was for the sake of realisim, it makes no sense as ther are other moves that are even less realistical. It being a ranged move it would have been ideal to use vs Raijuta, as in the manga.
| @KenshinXHimura in my opinion, in the case of the doryusen it's less about it being unrealistic as it is about it being such a goofy move? Personally I think that's the case haha Edit: I'd forgotten about that move until I read the manga chapters recently and I thought it was kinda hilarious π |
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@KenshinXHimura in my opinion, in the case of the doryusen it's less about it being unrealistic as it is about it being such a goofy move? Personally I think that's the case haha
Edit: I'd forgotten about that move until I read the manga chapters recently and I thought it was kinda hilarious π
@KenshinXHimura in my opinion, in the case of the doryusen it's less about it being unrealistic as it is about it being such a goofy move? Personally I think that's the case haha
Edit: I'd forgotten about that move until I read the manga chapters recently and I thought it was kinda hilarious π
What exactly is "goofy" about it? First time I see someone refer to it like that. Try not to type 96' when replying though.
| @KenshinXHimura I don't know, I find the idea of hitting the ground with the sword and a bunch of rocks flying as projectiles and hitting people funny, and I think there is a chance that the animators had a similar thought and decided to not use it, but feel free to disagree! Oh and look, I didn't bring up '96 π And yes, it's the first time you hear it referred to as goofy because it's a random thought that came up in my head, they do that sometimes π |
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@Perrin4869 All I can agree on is that the only goofy thing here is your opinion. The attack is grounded on reality. It has been used across the ages with various weapons or even the feet and hands. The only exaggerated aspect about it is the strength Kenshin has. But this is an anime and that is the whole point. If anything Hi Ryu Sen is sillier as the user risks losing the sword.
Also, you did end up typing '96...
Also, you did end up typing '96...
| @KenshinXHimura interesting, how does the real life variant work? |
KenshinXHimura said: That is right, It is not used in the manga vs Raijuta, but I didn't specify it had to be from the manga. Dunno , you said "it should have appeared". While i agree with the one used against Kihei , there is no reason for them to put the one that was added in the previous adaptation. One of the point of this new adaptation is to be closer to the Manga , while also doing a few tweaks. Aside from one of the OST that got remixed , i doubt the 1996 Anime is taken into account somwhere during the production of it. |
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@Perrin4869 All I can agree on is that the only goofy thing here is your opinion. The attack is grounded on reality. It has been used across the ages with various weapons or even the feet and hands. The only exaggerated aspect about it is the strength Kenshin has. But this is an anime and that is the whole point. If anything Hi Ryu Sen is sillier as the user risks losing the sword.
Also, you did end up typing '96...
Also, you did end up typing '96...
| @KenshinXHimura yes, the Hi Ryu Sen is also quite ridiculous, that's why I praised this anime for adding some flare to it, making it go down easier, the way it is in the manga it looks pretty goofy... but the idea of throwing rock projectiles by hitting the ground with your sword I think takes the cake π€£ Some of the later unrealistic techniques in the show have a level of "cool" factor, or some interesting presentation to offset the unrealistic nature, I don't think the Do Ryu Sen pulls that off. The fact that it comes up in the manga only once, is a hint that the author didn't like the move much either, and since he is involved in this remake, it might have been his direction to exclude it. Oh and I profusely apologize for typing '96 again, I'll try to avoid it from now on when talking to you π |
KenshinXHimura said: You contradict yourself. Claim this reboot tries to be closer to the manga, yet ironically is farther away from the manga than the 1996 one in this particular scenario where a move got retconned. It's not me who's contradicting myself , it's Watsuki. If you look at the interview he made for Episode 01 , you'll see that he said he wanted this adaptation to be close to the Manga , but he also changed a few things to "update" his work. He (alongside his wife) also mentioned he would like more comedy , but he (or the director , at that point who know...) ended up removing a lot of it. |
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| In the end he wont stop being a swordsman thats great. Its good his sensei didnt kill the old lady and the girl, that would've been tragic. Seems he's not worse as I thought, he cares about swordsmanship but he isnt headed in the right direction |
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@Perrin4869 Go rewatch the scenes and check the manga panels as well. Do Ryu Sen actually pulls it off and better than other techniques. You continue to mock it and describe it as if it was real life as if you were clueless that this is a shonen anime and have 0 knowledge on the super strength Kenshin has. It's weird as hell not gonna lie.
Talking about moves that only show up on the manga once, there is the Hi Ryu Sen, Mei Ryu Sen and the Ryu So Sen, so that is not a valid argument....Ironically Ryu So Sen got given special treatment and got repeated uses that were NOT in the manga, in fact, the extra use replaced DO Ryu Sen. By your logic all those moves I mentioned should have also been removed from the reboot because if its only shown once in the manga it means the author doesn't care. But that wasn't the case.
Talking about moves that only show up on the manga once, there is the Hi Ryu Sen, Mei Ryu Sen and the Ryu So Sen, so that is not a valid argument....Ironically Ryu So Sen got given special treatment and got repeated uses that were NOT in the manga, in fact, the extra use replaced DO Ryu Sen. By your logic all those moves I mentioned should have also been removed from the reboot because if its only shown once in the manga it means the author doesn't care. But that wasn't the case.
| @KenshinXHimura well, you are the one who said the move is grounded in reality man π btw, when was Kenshin portrayed as having super strength? Sano sure, he carried around the Zanbatou, but not Kenshin, as far as I recall... I guess even from a narrative perspective, the Do-ryu-sen doesn't make much sense for Kenshin? If it were Sano with the Zanbatou it would have come off far less campy. Of course, just because the move came up only once, does not mean that Watsuki wanted it removed, it's nothing more than evidence supporting my theory man lol. To be honest, the Do Ryu Sen comes off Watsuki having to come up with some way to solve the situation before the deadline, and that's the best he could come up with, which is fine, this is just shonen manga, I can do with some campiness. I can also understand why you'd cut it from this adaptation if you want less camp in it. But of course I don't know the real reason, this is all speculation. |
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