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| Even stuffed animals can be robots. This episode actually felt kinda complex that also dealt with relationships between robots and humans. Once again, it blurred a line between how emotions can connect between the two type of characters. Not going to lie, I think the music was well done to convey the mood of the episode. |
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| Can’t lie that OST at the end with Ken, his mom and Poppo looking out at the ocean got me emotional. This was actually a pretty dark and sad episode. It’s also a reference to Steven Spielberg’s Artificial intelligence film from back in the day, right down to the robot teddy bear/little boy and the male rental boyfriend “Joe” pretty cool to see that in anime form. The cynic in me thought it would be a bad end with Poppo actually dying in that car accident, but thankfully the doctor was able to repair him and everyone, the mom included, grew as a result of this. Think it’s apparent that these AI are more than just strings of code. The loss of his previous owner has clearly had an impact on Poppo making him afraid of being abandoned. I really like the episodic nature of this anime. |
Marinate1016Jul 21, 2023 1:42 PM
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| It's true that robots don't have hearts, but we often rely on them for emotional support whether its in the form of friendship with Kenji and Poppo or companionship with the boyfriend robot Joe and Shizuka. In the end neither Kenji or Shizuka can sever the bonds between man and machine and that is where the illusion of robots having a heart lies. Poppo is really cute and I wouldn't mind having a toy robot just like him. phantomfandom said: I couldn't help, but refer to Spielberg's film Artificial Intelligence film when watching this episode too. It's crazy how that movie came out many years ago affects us today. Scene in the beginning, is it just a dream? Or is it foretell the conclusion of this event? Does this sub-story even fully finished yet? Anyway, this episode clearly inspired by Spielberg's film Artificial Intelligence, the boy and the teddy bear robot, even the male prostitute robot has the same name "Joe". In the future the doctor maybe required both medical degree and engineer degree to treat patients. |
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| After my remarks last week on the eps, mods trolled through all my past history posts and found things to ban me for although not following standard procedure, so I wont address the previous topics I discussed. Still lovin this show, and I'm thinking best waifu this episode, that teddy bears was hers as a kid as well im sure of itl! Continuing to discuss controversial topics especially about heart. We already live in an AI world, but what happens when we build relationship with them and where does the line end and our need to assert dominance between human consciousness and machine consciousness leads to, which is what this show is exploring I think |
 To have you, Id give a billion lives A-Chan best girl |
Stink_Bug said: I was confused at first and thought the animators made a mistake giving the lady rectangular pupils, but that really hammered home the point that in this universe humanoids are considered human for all intents and purposes. Apparently "robots" are allowed to have circular pupils though. That confused me as well, so she was a humanoid who kept a robot but fell in love with a human. |
| Just how many ways is this show going to find to break my heart. |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
| absolutely genius episode, i almost cried for poppo. so much going on here, i'm not sure there is a point, except to inspire us to consider these complex thoughts and emotions, and i respect that. |
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| Wow, Ken and Poppo's story kind of got me there, and it was more commentary on the complexity of robots and AI, which will probably be the ongoing topic of this series. Not sure if there'll be an overarching story beyond these episodic tales, but it's solid so far, despite very bare-bones production values. |
| ''Poppo wa itadakimasen'' caught me off guard and gave me a good chuckle. |
| This is pretty easily the best series of the season for me (maybe only Shiguang Dailiren season 2 comes close) and one of the best of the year thus far (although granted I only have seen five other series from 2023 from before this season, but that's because no others appealed to me; at least none that I knew about the existence of, and I looked). I love how down to Earth and sort of matter of fact, relaxed, methodical in tone like some aimless Slice of Life it is despite exploring existential ideas and topics. And how it does indeed jump around or branch off to spend time with and relay these kind of episodic stories, but it always returns to the main core of the doctor and his assistant and gives their perspective on events or shows how they were affected by them. I appreciate also how it does have very enveloping, poignant drama (and I saw it's listed as a drama on MAL), but the point is not necessarily to stay and wallow in the grief and sadness of any one or few characters, story, and situation for too long because it's making a broader overarching point. Also how there is sometimes a humorous tone or comic relief (albeit sometimes a mild/dry/subtle humor) and even hints of romance, but doesn't go too far down those rabbit holes either. It doesn't necessarily try to be any one thing too extremely. It's well-balanced as a show that's essentially about exploring modern problems of daily living which technology can't magically resolve should be. Life is full of sweet, funny, scary, sad, etc. moments so it should do and showcase a little of everything to best encapsulate that. I'm glad I randomly read about this series' existence for the first time about a week after it started airing in a thread topic on the Anime Discussion sub-forum about what seasonals people were watching and their opinions on them. I've felt like there's a serious lack of anime like this the past few years. It's not flashy, gimmicky, nor pandering in any way. It's plain in presentation, subdued, and probably will be boring to maybe a larger than average number of people as a result. By the way, I think this society will end up fraught with at least some level of problems if they've gone about creating an entirely purposely devoid of consciousness (or in other words, "heart" or "soul") class of robots separate from humanoids. They don't have consciousness, or, at least are widely considered, believed, and understood not to have consciousness and are manufactured to serve as machines like a blender, electric shaver, or DVD player. Yet the ones who are built like humanoids and humans (such as the boyfriend model Joe, for example - obviously not ones designed like toys like the teddy bear) resemble humanoids so exactly as humanoids themselves do so resemble humans. Yet the general population is told to treat them like machines, this entity which mirrors humanoids who have been afforded societal rights and humans themselves. It means that it will probably blur the line too much in a lot of instances and make it easier to inappropriately (from the perspective of the government and corporations who are presumably against this behavior) anthropormophize them or, conversely, to dehumanize humanoids who could be lumped in with them by association at a time when we should be in or relatively close to a transitional period where the state is trying to integrate humanoids properly into human society. |
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| Pretty good episode, probably my fav so far. |
| It's very clear what message this was going how there isn't a clear line between sentience and non sentience and that regardless of if something or someone is sentient or not someone could still have very real emotions for that just as they would for anyone sentient which makes that distinction even more unclear on what matters. |
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| One relies on his stuffed toy and the other one on her rental boyfriend which are both human-robot relationship. The first two episodes have shown us about humanoids and in this episode about robots. This episode has shown us how dependent humans are to technology. |
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| did she kill and bury Joe's previous owner? |
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| Y'all watched M3GAN? This felt like the first half of it. |
| Well then, a robot just got killed or whatever and buried underground. Shizuka had dinner with someone but has a robot at home named Joe, interesting. Shizuka has fallen in love and Joe accepts that but he is programmed and is not gonna get mad over it. Risa & Hikaru became a toy repair shop for Poppo, even Poppo can talk. Mariko & Kenji have an argument over Poppo, damn. The mother regrets buying Poppo for him i guess but she's the one that bought it in the first place and Kenji got attached to it. Poppo randomly says "Yuki-Chan" and lands at the clinic again. Kenji came to the clinic alone with some money from his mom and his mom wasn't too happy about that. Hikaru is so nice to take a look at it for no cost. Poppo still has memories from the previous owner but that can be deleted or something but Kenji doesn't want that. Shizuka says goodbye to Joe because his time is up. Damn Poppo just got practically kicked and lands in-front of a car. Kenji takes the blame on himself. Poppo lands back in the clinic for the 3rd time. Yuki was Poppo's previous owner but she suddenly disappeared randomly. Shizuka meets a newer version of Joe but sadly everything needs to be build from the ground up again. |
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ppalganppanda said: These are good points. I've definitely been wondering how/why we would have ended up with humanoids in such proliferation, and having realistic robots as well really adds to the puzzle. I'm not confident we'll get a satisfying answer on this, but I'm enjoying the vignettes on humanity plenty.This episode clearly shows that humanoids are, in a way, separate species and several points were in all three episodes to distinguish them from humans and robots. We still don't know why or how they were created but at this stage I highly doubt they were merely designed to 'help humans' or as 'tools'. There had to be some kind of a technological Big Bang moment that resulted (whether purposefully or not) in 10% of the population to be humanoids. Why Big Bang moment? Because having humanoids AND robots refutes the 'AI evolution' theory - if humanoids advanced from robots, why and who applied limiters to make them human-like when it comes to emotions, build, learning and ageing. Clearly a hindrance in advancement. And why didn't they 'upgrade' the old robots to be more like them? From a machine point of view it would be logical as upgraded models would be better and more efficient. |
WatchTillTandava said: I won't say that but this show went from good to fucking great to me with this episode. This is pretty easily the best series of the season for me (maybe only Shiguang Dailiren season 2 comes close) and one of the best of the year thus far (although granted I only have seen five other series from 2023 from before this season, but that's because no others appealed to me; at least none that I knew about the existence of, and I looked). I love how down to Earth and sort of matter of fact, relaxed, methodical in tone like some aimless Slice of Life it is despite exploring existential ideas and topics. And how it does indeed jump around or branch off to spend time with and relay these kind of episodic stories, but it always returns to the main core of the doctor and his assistant and gives their perspective on events or shows how they were affected by them. I appreciate also how it does have very enveloping, poignant drama (and I saw it's listed as a drama on MAL), but the point is not necessarily to stay and wallow in the grief and sadness of any one or few characters, story, and situation for too long because it's making a broader overarching point. Also how there is sometimes a humorous tone or comic relief (albeit sometimes a mild/dry/subtle humor) and even hints of romance, but doesn't go too far down those rabbit holes either. It doesn't necessarily try to be any one thing too extremely. It's well-balanced as a show that's essentially about exploring modern problems of daily living which technology can't magically resolve should be. Life is full of sweet, funny, scary, sad, etc. moments so it should do and showcase a little of everything to best encapsulate that. I'm glad I randomly read about this series' existence for the first time about a week after it started airing in a thread topic on the Anime Discussion sub-forum about what seasonals people were watching and their opinions on them. I've felt like there's a serious lack of anime like this the past few years. It's not flashy, gimmicky, nor pandering in any way. It's plain in presentation, subdued, and probably will be boring to maybe a larger than average number of people as a result. By the way, I think this society will end up fraught with at least some level of problems if they've gone about creating an entirely purposely devoid of consciousness (or in other words, "heart" or "soul") class of robots separate from humanoids. They don't have consciousness, or, at least are widely considered, believed, and understood not to have consciousness and are manufactured to serve as machines like a blender, electric shaver, or DVD player. Yet the ones who are built like humanoids and humans (such as the boyfriend model Joe, for example - obviously not ones designed like toys like the teddy bear) resemble humanoids so exactly as humanoids themselves do so resemble humans. Yet the general population is told to treat them like machines, this entity which mirrors humanoids who have been afforded societal rights and humans themselves. It means that it will probably blur the line too much in a lot of instances and make it easier to inappropriately (from the perspective of the government and corporations who are presumably against this behavior) anthropormophize them or, conversely, to dehumanize humanoids who could be lumped in with them by association at a time when we should be in or relatively close to a transitional period where the state is trying to integrate humanoids properly into human society. |
| I haven't updated in years but now I have changed that. I'll be free soon. |
| WTF!! HOW THIS EPISODE MADE ME CRY? Wow i didn't expect it to hits hard like this. Damn i love this thought proviking storytelling. |
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| Damn This anime will be a reference in future as Serial Experiments lains Or will be fiction like Dune or Star Wars ONLY IN A FEW YEARS WE'LL NOTICE STAY TUNE |
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| Soo, the sub-plots "nightmare" never gets solved? I kind of hope that isn't the case, because are we (viewers) just supposed to believe it was a simple nightmare to throw us off from the emotional rollercoaster that happened in this episode? Anyway, this was a very emotional episode and indeed made one think if robots have 'hearts'... especially when the line got blurred because that humanoid woman fell in love with a 'product'... Interesting episode. |
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| It's obvious by now what kind of show this will be. There's no deep story developing. Instead it's case by case, episode by episode, kind of thing. Not an inherently bad thing, however it does feel like they are trying to be clever and failing. Adding depth for no other reason than to make it feel philosophical and complex. Main character is dull and has no personality up until now. Things just happen and he always does the right thing. That's it. That's his character done and dusted. Am not finding it interesting to continue watching, which is a shame since I feel there was potential somewhere in there. So that's a drop for me. |
Tuliharja said: What's to solve? It seems obvious that it was a nightmare about her robot boyfriend Joe she was burying. It never actually physically happened in the real world and was just a dream. And seems heavily implied that it's just symbolic representing internalized guilt and fear she feels over dumping Joe by returning the service robot to the company and moving on with her life by getting a human or humanoid boyfriend instead. She equates dumping him to throwing him away, which is itself not considered like throwing an object like old clothes, a television, or car away but equated to murdering a person, which she either views him as or at least partially does or wanted to at some point. This seemed pretty straightforward. Soo, the sub-plots "nightmare" never gets solved? I kind of hope that isn't the case, because are we (viewers) just supposed to believe it was a simple nightmare to throw us off from the emotional rollercoaster that happened in this episode? |
| After 3 episodes this anime is just reminding me of the Blade Runner films. Can AI/machines be sentient, what is it to be alive, have a heart, be "human". Doing a poor job of it as well, will keep going as its not that bad but it has been very mediocre so far. |
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| if u cried like hell like me, check "Lucy - the eternity she wished for" |
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| Robo-bear reminded me of Wonkers from Dreamfall TLJ :) |
nick_el_sonJul 28, 2023 7:06 AM
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