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Jan 17, 2022 2:09 PM
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Kinda concerned about the immediately noticeable animation quality drop. Lots of not so good looking corner cutting techniques being used like rotating static images, camera shake and obscuration on still images, not very well rigged CG, obscured closeups, low quality models using minimal motion at a distance, snap-cuts etc. Character/scenario writing and art especially backgrounds still feels great though as well as a couple cool and well done animation cuts.

I like this show quite a bit but I really hope this quality drop isn't a steady slope for the series and future episodes see less use of these time saving animation techniques or at least round out the animation where they can.
Jan 17, 2022 2:10 PM
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Fun, exciting, fresh! Thought the episode had a nice mix of everything and definitely the show I'll be most looking forward to over the next few weeks 5/5
Jan 17, 2022 2:17 PM

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good episode. Milo treating Bisco then Bisco thanking Milo was cute. I can't wait for these duo's adventure.


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Jan 17, 2022 2:22 PM

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Yeah, I'm not at all bothered by the non-linear storytelling, not least because in this case the continuity really isn't at all hard to follow. I also think these early stages of the narrative are perhaps more entertaining like this than if they were presented linearly and that this approach makes more sense in establishing all our different characters simultaneously.

Beyond that, I'm definitely entertained by everything going on, but I hope we don't have to wait too long to understand Bisco's motivations, as at this point it's not really clear why we should be rooting for him at all.
Jan 17, 2022 2:29 PM

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Another great episode. If you want some really bad non linear storytelling go watch Peach Boy Riverside in release order.

Anyway this might be AOTS. Not a lot of competition this season sadly
Jan 17, 2022 2:31 PM

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After seeing this episode, I kept thinking: That plane was actually a living organism??? That head of a slug is one thing but when Bisco actually shot it down, it was bleeding every where... It's so weirddd, but I like it.

Pink haired girl is the reason for Jabi, Bisco's mentor, getting injured and now Milo has to patch him up.

Loved the Pawoo action and I can't wait to see her duke it out with Bisco next episode. Also looking forward to the reveal to Bisco that Pawoo is Milo's sister.
Jan 17, 2022 2:51 PM

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The only thing i have to say, I love how crazy this world is. Like what the fuck even the airplane was an animal lol

About the way they are telling the story, i don't think it is that confusing. They will probably keep with this in this first arc is over and everything connects.

And the OP 10/10.
Jan 17, 2022 3:16 PM

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kriissyy12 said:
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I mean, sure, they got all these people that makes you think its gonna be fucking amazing but it's also a studio who, in the past, only helped other studios before. this is their first anime series for Oz studio and it's doing a pretty solid job so far as a first anime. Also its the director's directorial debut.


This is a big LN in Japan and the adaptation was very anticipated, OZ was obviously highly regarded if they were offered the project. So lets not act like they're some unknown studio.

this is NOT a big LN in Japan, it's quite niche and the sales are nothing incredible.
Jan 17, 2022 3:38 PM
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Zefyris said:
kriissyy12 said:


This is a big LN in Japan and the adaptation was very anticipated, OZ was obviously highly regarded if they were offered the project. So lets not act like they're some unknown studio.

this is NOT a big LN in Japan, it's quite niche and the sales are nothing incredible.


It was one of the biggest selling Bunkobon LN in 2019, and largely regarded as one of the better LN's out there. So yes, it's pretty popular and I'd expect the Anime to further increase its popularity.
Jan 17, 2022 4:21 PM

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Machine gun hippos = winner in my book
Jan 17, 2022 4:29 PM
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Wow the budget took a nosedive, and the pacing sucked too. Still gonna keep watching but a step down from episode 1.
Jan 17, 2022 4:37 PM

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I liked the opening and the visuals I also like the animation style for the animals and other objects
Jan 17, 2022 4:51 PM

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Lmao this series is so wacko. Fucking slug helicopters and hippos mounted with machine guns.
Jan 17, 2022 5:02 PM
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Lmao. All the studio budget went into the art alone. It really just consists of art style enhancements to overshadow the inconsistent animation
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Jan 17, 2022 6:11 PM
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I don't understand why people get so confused with the timeline transitioning, seems like if we don't get a completely linear show we can't enjoy it. Just wait to see how things roll out and get explained, be patient.

For me it's a 9/10. I absolutely love the vibe of this anime and can't wait for the next episode.

No one is talking about whether or not you can understand the awful shuffled story.
The problem is that they are shuffling story when they don't need to shuffle it.
Jan 17, 2022 6:32 PM

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Pointless/poor nonlinear narrative was applied to the episode. If certain ratio of people find it just confusing and ridiculous, it's a misuse of the technique.
Jan 17, 2022 6:46 PM

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The characters continue to be archetypal, but atleast the action continues to deliver and that OP absolutely kicks ass.

Edit: Some people complaining about the non-linear narrative??? Nothing in this episode is remotely confusing. Christ can't imagine what you guys think of Lain or the original Boogiepop anime in comparison.

the non-linear narrative here isn't confusing but it is unnecessary and awkward. the scene with the braids girl talking about how she failed to kill bisco kills any tension that the following scene of it actually happening would have had. it gives this anime an element of discontinuity that just comes off as clumsiness in an anime with such a straightforward plot.
Jan 17, 2022 6:50 PM

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yeah this is definitely not a series that non-linear narrative should be used on. I guarantee you no one is watching this show because they want to think. that being said, the concept of a guy fighting by shooting mushrooms at people is so hilarious that I doubt I'll drop this unless it gets much worse.
Jan 17, 2022 7:12 PM

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preferred the first episode, but this one was nice too. finally some action and the mc making his official debut. always had a feeling he was the one at the gate.

looking forward to next weeks ep!
Jan 17, 2022 8:10 PM

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Wtf is that flying snail thingy...
Jan 17, 2022 8:59 PM
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And just like the first episode, lots of crazy stuff happened, rabbit guys with machine guns, hippo’s with mounted cannons, giant crab, snail plain, so much weird but awesome stuff to love in this show lol. As for the plot, don’t entirely understand what’s happening but I got the basic gist of the current situation, and at the end of the episode we got to see Pawoo being badass and about to fight Bisco, definitely excited for that, and I loved the emotion when she found out about her brother.

I’m also really liking the action sequences in this, the mix of realistic weapons and creative ones like the Escargot plane, and you can’t forget the bow and arrow that shoots mushrooms, that makes me really love it and makes it especially memorable.

And nice OP visuals this episode and the ED is damn good too.
Jan 17, 2022 9:15 PM

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This anime is fire. An engaging episode through and through.
Jan 17, 2022 9:33 PM

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As expected, Bisco is a badass character. it was a action packed episode and animation was good too.
I am loving this anime already!!
Jan 17, 2022 10:10 PM
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wait people don't understand because of non linear storytelling? bruhh watch more Anime. lol

Bisco throwing hippos wtf, man was strong AF

ahh yes the showdown begun.
Jan 17, 2022 10:12 PM
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bourrasque said:
I knew it.
This anime is definitely a failure. The story is difficult to understand due to the pointless transposition of the timeline. This director will never make a masterpiece anime.
*drop*

lmao bruhh watch more Anime...
Jan 17, 2022 10:32 PM
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So far

Opening animation is pretty bad that I couldn't even focus on the music

There are 2 questions I had after the scene were he said he threatened three guys and they all suggested him

Why would he need 3 people? Like were they in a group?

And why would he ask Milo's name later on while he should've already known when asking those people? Like did they just marked on the map or pointed in a direction?

I know these are very small problems but I find them quite strange

Bullets apparently don't matter at all so I hope I see a lot less of guns, there were times i just felt like I'm watching a couple stormtroopers because of how much they miss and in the beginning of the episode we see the guy shooting at bisco's head and it was close enough to rip the bandage on his face but not harming him at all. we can say okay maybe it's the same reason with how even though the old man was shot a lot he wasn't dead and they're strong beyond human

Milo's sister is... too big? I mean it wasn't really a problem but in some shots it was really strange

Other than that it was pretty good

There was pretty good background music

Action scenes were good

I liked the old man's talk with bisco

I liked the end of the episode fight scene that made me want to see the next episode

And generally characters and the environment looks good
Jan 17, 2022 11:21 PM

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OMG GODDAMN SAKUGA ANIMATION when enraged Bisco fired his arrow against that Escargot Fighter! much better sakuga than the likes of DS and aot! lolz!
5/5.
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Jan 18, 2022 12:05 AM

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Quite interesting anime although the plot is not yet raised.
The world seems to be that it will have many striking and eccentric elements, and with that it will already have me trapped here. The OST conveys a lot of emotion so I already imagine that the story will be full of many moments of action, so the anime will at least serve to entertain you.
The bad thing is that the individual psychological aspect is still unexplored, only the panda doctor stands out for now.

The aesthetics of the OP is very striking, it seems that I will spend some time to see who was in charge of producing it, because surely many like me, it reminded them of other animes.
Jan 18, 2022 12:58 AM

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This actually has a proper story. lol.

Jabi seems like he'll die. Bisco can do everything Jabi can, and the one thing Jabi can do that he can't—can be done by Milo. So, Bisco and Milo are supposed to replace him. But, I can't quite figure out Jabi's role, and dying without completing their role can make the death feel dissatisfying. So, I guess he's not going to die just yet? He may have a few things left to do before it.

How many arrows does Bisco have? Who makes them? How are they made? How long does it take? I hope they answer it!!!

Oh, no! I ship Bisco and Milo. At first, I was like "Oh, cute friendship." Then, in the underground scene, it seemed like the beginning of a crush . . . And I shipped it! lol. (It's already a better start for a ship than "Sasaki to Miyano".)

The art is fun. Recently, there haven't been a lot of anime where I have enjoyed looking at the art.

Bisco is teaming up with Milo, while fighting Milo's older sister. Seems like a nice seed for drama. I am excited to see what they'll do with this. (The preview of next episode makes it look like there won't be much drama, but I hope there is. Humans are made of drama!!)
Jan 18, 2022 1:54 AM

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This episode confirms what I was thinking about the pacing. I wasn't 100% sure due to the choice of doing the adaptation "baccano style" by mixing up the timeline a lot in the first few episodes (starting with next episode there should be almost no back and forth remaining I think I think), but now I 'm sure : We've only reached 65 pages of content after 2 episodes out of 350, so the anime adaptation is definitely going for a "12 episode for 1 volume adapted" choice. That's the same adaptation pace as Rokka no Yuusha, IE one of the slowest/most faithful pace ever done when adapting a novel in anime.



kriissyy12 said:
Zefyris said:

this is NOT a big LN in Japan, it's quite niche and the sales are nothing incredible.


It was one of the biggest selling Bunkobon LN in 2019, and largely regarded as one of the better LN's out there. So yes, it's pretty popular and I'd expect the Anime to further increase its popularity.

...No ? It doesn't even make it to the yearly ranking, and it's not even close. You're being confused here imo.
Jan 18, 2022 2:15 AM
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Zefyris said:
This episode confirms what I was thinking about the pacing. I wasn't 100% sure due to the choice of doing the adaptation "baccano style" by mixing up the timeline a lot in the first few episodes (starting with next episode there should be almost no back and forth remaining I think I think), but now I 'm sure : We've only reached 65 pages of content after 2 episodes out of 350, so the anime adaptation is definitely going for a "12 episode for 1 volume adapted" choice. That's the same adaptation pace as Rokka no Yuusha, IE one of the slowest/most faithful pace ever done when adapting a novel in anime.



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It was one of the biggest selling Bunkobon LN in 2019, and largely regarded as one of the better LN's out there. So yes, it's pretty popular and I'd expect the Anime to further increase its popularity.

...No ? It doesn't even make it to the yearly ranking, and it's not even close. You're being confused here imo.


It was literally ranked top of the best newcomer chart? The hell you talking about? 300k sales in the first 2 years is pretty damn good, Danmachi usually does 400k in a year for context and that's a huge LN in Japan.
Jan 18, 2022 2:17 AM

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Machine gun hippos = winner in my book


The whole show is a winner right now.

Riding around in the desert on a giant crab shooting arrows that grow mushrooms.

My inner child is all about this show.
Jan 18, 2022 2:29 AM

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Good ep again, interesting to see a non-linear storyline here. Good OST as well. This is the only new non-sequel anime this season that is actually good.
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Jan 18, 2022 2:31 AM

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Is it good?
Should I watch this?
Jan 18, 2022 2:41 AM

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kriissyy12 said:
Zefyris said:
This episode confirms what I was thinking about the pacing. I wasn't 100% sure due to the choice of doing the adaptation "baccano style" by mixing up the timeline a lot in the first few episodes (starting with next episode there should be almost no back and forth remaining I think I think), but now I 'm sure : We've only reached 65 pages of content after 2 episodes out of 350, so the anime adaptation is definitely going for a "12 episode for 1 volume adapted" choice. That's the same adaptation pace as Rokka no Yuusha, IE one of the slowest/most faithful pace ever done when adapting a novel in anime.




...No ? It doesn't even make it to the yearly ranking, and it's not even close. You're being confused here imo.


It was literally ranked top of the best newcomer chart? The hell you talking about? 300k sales in the first 2 years is pretty damn good, Danmachi usually does 400k in a year for context and that's a huge LN in Japan.

400k is barely top 10 for LN series. Top 5 is 500k+ usually with just physicals, whereas the
300k for sabikui bisco is in almost 4 years (it just reached it for vol 8 release, and vol 1 was march 2018), not 2, so that's 75k per year in average and it's counting digital sales.
It obviously sells more than it used to, but like I said, it's not even close of making it in the yearly ranking.
It's not selling BAD, but it's nowhere near best seller LN levels.
A best seller making it to top 5 every year like Kusuriya is above 12 million in 7 years when counting digital. that's 1.5 million per YEAR. Bookworm for example doesn't rank in top seller series and is at 5 millions sold in 7 years. Sabikui is 300k in 4 years. it's nice, but it's not playing in the same field as top sellers.
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Zefyris said:
kriissyy12 said:


It was literally ranked top of the best newcomer chart? The hell you talking about? 300k sales in the first 2 years is pretty damn good, Danmachi usually does 400k in a year for context and that's a huge LN in Japan.

400k is barely top 10 for LN series. Top 5 is 500k+ usually with just physicals, whereas the
300k for sabikui bisco is in almost 4 years (it just reached it for vol 8 release, and vol 1 was march 2018), not 2, so that's 75k per year in average and it's counting digital sales.
It obviously sells more than it used to, but like I said, it's not even close of making it in the yearly ranking.
It's not selling BAD, but it's nowhere near best seller LN levels.
A best seller making it to top 5 every year like Kusuriya is above 10 million in 10 volumes when counting digital. Sabikui is 300k in 7 volumes. it's nice, but it's not playing in the same field as top sellers.


I didn't say it was a best seller? I said it was big, it received a lot of promotion from LN magazines and I believe won several award,

Mentioning The Apothecary Diaries is redundant, seeing:

1. It was a popular Web Novel for several years before the official LN was released. So before the first LN was even released, it was already out longer than what Sabikui Bisco has been.

2. Its popularity is far from common. Higehiro is regarded as a popualar LN in Japan and I believe it had 400k sales across 5 volumes, Sabikui Bisco isn't exactly far off and its sales will skyrocket now the Anime is out.
Jan 18, 2022 3:05 AM

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kriissyy12 said:
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400k is barely top 10 for LN series. Top 5 is 500k+ usually with just physicals, whereas the
300k for sabikui bisco is in almost 4 years (it just reached it for vol 8 release, and vol 1 was march 2018), not 2, so that's 75k per year in average and it's counting digital sales.
It obviously sells more than it used to, but like I said, it's not even close of making it in the yearly ranking.
It's not selling BAD, but it's nowhere near best seller LN levels.
A best seller making it to top 5 every year like Kusuriya is above 10 million in 10 volumes when counting digital. Sabikui is 300k in 7 volumes. it's nice, but it's not playing in the same field as top sellers.


I didn't say it was a best seller? I said it was big, it received a lot of promotion from LN magazines and I believe won several award,

Mentioning The Apothecary Diaries is redundant, seeing:

1. It was a popular Web Novel for several years before the official LN was released. So before the first LN was even released, it was already out longer than what Sabikui Bisco has been.

2. Its popularity is far from common. Higehiro is regarded as a popualar LN in Japan and I believe it had 400k sales across 5 volumes, Sabikui Bisco isn't exactly far off and its sales will skyrocket now the Anime is out.

it got well ranked by peoples from the industry in konorano a few years back as best newcommer, yes. I 've never heard of anything more than that, which awards?
I don't see how the fact that it was a webnovel before changes anything about what I said. Kusuriya's popularity doesn't even come from the webnovel anyway since its sale numbers exploded a while AFTER starting the LN version (around 2018). But even if it was, how would that change anything about how well a novel is doing? There's many way a title can become popular. Question here is not how to become it, but if it is.
I added more numbers after you quoted, so anyway, see something like bookworm that doesn't make it to the ranking and still sell around 10 times more per year than Sabikui. And yes, this one's popularity comes a lot more from the WN time, but like I said, I don't see the point. A novel usually mostly sells when it just released. Unless the animation for example is a huge hit that drags in lots of new readers, Sabikui is NEVER going to be in the same playing field as LN that are "big", contrary to what you said at the beginning.
Jan 18, 2022 3:26 AM

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The action-punk dystopian theme is quite thick in this one. When we're talking about actions, the production can get expensive really fast. I feel like the animation is a bit "choppy". I don't mean it like choppy in terms of in-between frames, but more like it's halfway done as it lacks the dynamic sometimes. But it's just a minor part of it, the rest of them are good enough.

The world so far is still too wide to comprehend. Things such as the rust disease and Bisco's mushroom power is yet to be explained. The goal seems to be to find the Sabikui mushroom to cure the rust disease. The world is still expanding and it's understandable for many people to have question marks on their head.

Oh yeah, I love the badass OST. That is a big plus for me especially in action-punk theme.
Jan 18, 2022 5:13 AM

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yoo this show atually not too bad at all !!

i give 7.9/10
Jan 18, 2022 5:13 AM

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Soundtrack is fucking metal, I love it. The range Suzuki Ryouta has though, like damn. Definitely enjoying this a lot so far, I am really excited for when we get past the setup phases, I am sure things are gonna get even more fun after that. Give me more of those shrooms in my veins.

Pawoo's entrance was metal as fuck too, she's awesome. Chiroru's great too, I want all of them to squad up. Looking forward to the next episode.
Jan 18, 2022 5:24 AM
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I knew it.
This anime is definitely a failure. The story is difficult to understand due to the pointless transposition of the timeline. This director will never make a masterpiece anime.
*drop*


The story is hard to understand? I think that's more of a you problem than the problem of the anime. For me, it was very easy to understand.
Jan 18, 2022 6:50 AM
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Nice episode, was fun to watch. With the battle hippos, crab riders, and escargot fighter planes, I wonder what else they have in their arsenal.
Jan 18, 2022 6:54 AM
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I love this. Mushroom terrorism is hilarious. The world in this anime is crazy but in a good way.
Jan 18, 2022 7:04 AM

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LMFAO when the bandages came off and he had his goggles on, pure animated logic there.
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Jan 18, 2022 8:23 AM
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Well, that was MUCH better than the first episode to me.

I especially like the pacing. I would've thought we wouldn't stay too long in this first location, but we'll be here for at least three episodes. That feels unusual for a story that is basically about searching the world for something specific - you'd think the creator would be hellbent on showing off his crazy world. But seems like the story and characters are prioritized here.

Also... that ED is incredible. I actually got some JoJo vibes from it.
Jan 18, 2022 8:23 AM
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I like the characters, and the world is interesting. I like the way they merged 3D and 2D animations. The transition between scenes were confusing at first, but I liked how one is the past and the other is current and they merged it together.
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bourrasque said:
I knew it.
This anime is definitely a failure. The story is difficult to understand due to the pointless transposition of the timeline. This director will never make a masterpiece anime.
*drop*


Anime isn't a failure, your attention spam is just too short to understand what is happening here. Sure, the cuts between each scene is very abrupt, but there's nothing "complicated" about the actual scenes themselves. It is very clear which scenes happen at which timeframe.
Jan 18, 2022 10:27 AM

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the director must be an idiot. he really thinks that directing 2 different timelines simultaneously is genuinely a cool idea? go fk himself.
Jan 18, 2022 10:37 AM

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This episode is kind of unbalanced. On one hand, you got the situation on-the-ground where Bisco are fending off Kurokawa's forces, and Milo is treating Jabi. And on the other, you got the continuation of Bisco, Jabi and their crab fending off the garrison.

I did kind of follow the episode. But without the story revealing itself and my mind not really on the mood to think, I don't really have much to say aside from damn these fight scenes are really good. Although not on AoT and KnY levels, the fight scenes in Sabikui Bisco is enough to pique casual viewers into thinking that this is badass. Also Pawoo raging knowing that Milo might be dead is something to see for.

Please, let's just see the full match between Bisco and Pawoo, I know it's gonna be hella amazing!
Jan 18, 2022 10:59 AM

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Since when did flashbacks become such a difficult concept for some people?
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