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guyklc said: From an appearance point of view, Su-Won is too bishounen for my taste... but personality wise, damn, that guy is awesome, and this episode showed it. I think this episode really portrayed a different side of Su-Won: he's wise, plans ahead, and really knows how to win the people over. Contrast this with the previous king, King Il. Sure, he loves peace and his people, but let's not forget what that starving villager said in last week's episode: who exactly did King Il save in the end? In real life, it's not always the pacifist who saves everyone; in fact, sometimes, it's the pacifist who screws everything up. Man, I'm starting to think it's better if Su-Won wins after all. It's pretty clear Yona will become an interesting counter-balance to Su-Won if he strays away from the path. Remember, he is walking a slippery slope that can either lead the nation to peace and prosperity, or lead the nation to tyranny and oppression (but perhaps also prosperity). Deep down, Su-Won really wants to make the nation better and not watch his people suffer. Yona's father had his reasons doing what he did to protect Yona, but completely failed as a king so it's not a surprise he got disposed by Su-Won. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| I really wish Soo-Won would stop overdoing it with his "rabbit/squirrel act". It made it hard to take him and a good chunk of this episode seriously. T'was a bit funny though, but I hoped for an epic mock battle where Soo-Won proves himself to Lord Geun-tea(not in a comical way). Not saying he should've given up his act entirely, just tone it down. He could've still executed his plan anyway - plenty of ways to intentionally loose a duel that the audience wouldn't notice. Rather than misleading & cunning, he looked more like a buffoon this episode - not exactly fitting for a king. |
| An episode without Hak :( So now the Gun-tea will be loyal to the king which is sad because I like him, the episode was alright though |
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dream_eater1012 said: Mormegil said: Oh, cool. Is that so? I'd love to see the artwork he's done. Pictures in the spoiler. Thanks for posting these! I really appreciate it. I had no idea he did some artwork for Akatsuki no Yona. Like you said, it's a funny coincidence, especially since there are definitely some Berserk parallels in the series. |
| Did anyone NOT pay attention to the previous episodes in this anime! King Il did not kill his brother to take the throne, his father chose him over the older brother Yu-Hon! Soo-won is the only person that has ever claimed that King Il killed his father and with all his lies and deceit, who knows if he is even telling the truth! The facts that still need to be answered are basically: 1. Did King Il really kill his brother as Soo-won is accusing him of? 2. Was King Il really a bad king or was it the Tribe Generals that were the ones that neglected their people? 3. Why did the old king really pick his timid son to rule over the stronger son? Hopefully we will get the answers to all of this before the anime ends, but since I never read the manga I don't know if these questions were ever answered there even! |
| So glad that I'm not a huge manga reader, because the manga readers WHINE WAY TOO MUCH and have to RUIN every adapted anime for the ANIME ONLY WATCHERS! |
| This episode is one of my favorites so far. Su-won is really interesting. Looks like next week's episode won't be about him & I'm a bit sad, I wouldn't mind a whole arc about him without seeing Yona & cie. CeissaDesiste said: 1. Did King Il really kill his brother as Soo-won is accusing him of? 2. Was King Il really a bad king or was it the Tribe Generals that were the ones that neglected their people? 3. Why did the old king really pick his timid son to rule over the stronger son? I think (& hope) we'll get answers. Most of the time when a king dies & people start talking about the shit leader he was you later get an explanation about why he was bad. I don't think the man who told Yona the King neglected people lied but I wanna know why the King didn't seem to give a shit about them. & yeah, the fact the stronger son didn't become King seems odd but at the same time why not, while Su-won may be a good leader after all (especially after watching this ep I sorta respect him) he's not very strong if we compare him to Hak for example. Next week our protagonists are back. Can't wait to see the Green dragon. Hopefully he fights Hak, I love seeing Hak in action. |
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| Pretty decent episode. Still, my view of Su-won didn't change. He's still a weird antagonist. Unpredictable of doing things to say the least. |
jjrocks24 said: Su-won is too sneaky for my taste. That sly bastard. He's that kind of antagonist with something always up his sleeves and will do anything for his place on the throne. He's calm but if you tempt him, he releases hell on you. He always has that mask on. Smiling away... I despise those kinds of characters. Exactly my thoughts. |
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| I'm glad we got to see Su-Won wield a sword again. He's possibly my favourite type of villain, somebody who can hide behind a mask, and be diplomatic to those who he think is valuable to his goal. And yet at the same time he is capable at understanding his surrounding and able to counter act. Geun vs Suu-Won was short, but entertaining and intense nonetheless. I look forward to when Su is on a battlefield. |
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| This show had a strong beginning, but somewhere in the middle it went downhill for me. That was when they introduced the story about the 4 dragons. And I was hoping Yona would become more rebellious over time, but she's still too tame. Anyway.. it was nice to see an episode that focuses on politics for a change - with Gung-tae slowly realizing how cunning Su-won really is. That was probably my favorite episode so far. |
| Soo-Won is a snake, sly and malicious. He has a good understanding of people and uses it to his advantage. On the surface he appears harmless, but in reality he is dangerous. The mock battle illustrated his character well. I don't like Soo-Won himself, but as a character, as an antagonist, he's really good. It's this sort of writing that gives AnY so much potential. The politics really is interesting. Does this really only have 24 episodes? It'll probably take at least four episodes just to finish up assembling the dragons. I don't see how the four after that will leave enough time to do much. AnY really needs to be a long runner. ;-; |
| I have to agree. Ever since he killed Yona's father and the events after that, one can see that he is sly as a fox. Although he is such, he is a genius. Since the manga is still ongoing for this anime. Let's just hope for 2nd season. Yuno is so cute and sweet! It would be nice to see Gung-tae to melt once in a while when he sees the wife happy face. But yeah, I doubt it will happen. haha |
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| This episode definitely felt like a filler episode and it was!!! But it wasn't all that bad 7/10 |
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| I believe Yona will marry Soo-won in the ending after realizing that her father was the evil guy all along. |
| "Tea buddies" so cute <3 Suwon looks really nice in a ponytail. Well they do say the rabbit is the sign of luck.. Those were some intense stares. Strategy over power, always destined to win. |
ElenirLachlagos said: On one hand, it seems like Soo-Won is a good king. On the other hand he did all this for the sake of war, to manipulate people into being willing cannon fodder. Did Soo-won say that he did it all for the sake of war? It's only good for him if Geun-tae starts to respect Soo-won as the King if war ensues. I don't think Soo-won will be the one to start a war, but he still needs generals who will fight for him and the country when the time comes to defend themselves. Remember, people were angry at King Il for giving away land instead of fighting back when conflict arose with other countries. Soo-won will not let that happen as he wants Kouka to be a strong kingdom. Kyandesu said: coromandel said: This show had a strong beginning, but somewhere in the middle it went downhill for me. That was when they introduced the story about the 4 dragons. And I was hoping Yona would become more rebellious over time, but she's still too tame. I feel the same way. I thought she'd be a bit more bad-ass at this point. Disappointment ensues. It's true that usually at this point in many series, we would already see plenty of character development. Although imo AnY goes at a really good pace, it might seem slow for others. But worry not, I think you guys will like this upcoming arc ^^ |
| Soo-Won sure is a great Tactician (planing all this), wondering what he is really after. |
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| The war game was awesome!! The whole rabbit on the outside, tiger on the inside or whatever is a pretty overused trope, but I still enjoyed it XD Soo-won is so cool, and he's such a likable character. I wonder how that's going to work with Yona's group because to them Soo-won is clearly the antagonist. At the same time, it clearly hurts Soo-won to be the antagonist of Yona's group... I wonder if sometime down the line, they'll form an alliance against some common enemy, like from surrounding territories or something. Looks like we'll get to see the green dragon next week!! |
Zee530 said: Suprisingly fun episode, this brings up an interesting question, if Su-won is getting the approval of the other tribes what happens if Yona overthrows him. Yes, I'm very curious to see how the conflict between the two will come about as well, and how the nation as a whole will react to it. As far as everyone knows, Yona was kidnapped or murdered. Princess Yona vs. Soo-Won the Usurper King. I kinda doubt it will be as simple as eliminating Soo-Won, though. |
| #Su-wonTrueKing We saw in this episode that he understands politics, economy, and clearly able to fight. It will be interesting to see how much of villain he really is. |
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| Great episode, that mock battle looked fun. Can't wait for the Su-Won Yona confrontation, it better happen in the anime. |
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Zee530 said: Suprisingly fun episode, this brings up an interesting question, if Su-won is getting the approval of the other tribes what happens if Yona overthrows him. Yona will become a villain. The country is already impoverished after her father's reign. The last thing it needs is civil disturbance. Besides, if she is going to govern the country, she better knows what she is doing. Knowing how to use a bow and look nicely does not make one a good ruler. As Hibbington noticed, Soo-won understands politics and economy, so the country is better off having him as the ruler than a princess who is ignorant about them. |
Lain666Jan 30, 2015 5:46 AM
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Rebelhero said: Farabeuf said: Nothing Su-Won does can change the fact that his kingdom is built on the murder of his king and that he was prepared to let Yona die for his ambition. I think people should remember that. Having said that, he is one interesting and smart customer. He makes for a formidable antagonist for Yona and her small crew. He is a REALLY well written "villain" because you really can justify his actions. The King murdered his father to take the throne, then became a huge wimp, banned war and conflict, but abandoned many villages leaving its people to die. Su-won avenged his fathers murder, and took the throne. And now is working to let the kingdom prosper, but is still avoiding conflict if its unnecessary. He DOES however, prepare for it. Yona and Hak are the ONLY people who know that Su-won killed King Ill. SO should Yona, Hak and the dragons manage to kill Su-won, THEY will be viewed as the villains by the entire country. THIS IS HOW YOU WRITE INTERESTING PLOT AND CHARACTERS! This show is so impressive to me. Emmm...You do realize that Yona is the actual heir to the throne right. She has the right to the throne even without killing him. |
CeissaDesiste said: Soo-won is the only person that has ever claimed that King Il killed his father and with all his lies and deceit, who knows if he is even telling the truth! Indeed that was his own claim and it doesn't make it truth but is also obvious he wasn't lying. He really believed what he said. Now whether he is deluded or not is another matter. |
MonadJan 30, 2015 9:36 AM
| Haha tea buddies :p Andf Su-Won explains supply and demand! This episode kinda felt like filler until the end (but the mock war was pretty fun!). Su-Won did all of those things to improve the well-being of the people of the Earth tribe, but given the fact that he killed his uncle to get to the throne, and also how he was talking about war and Gung-Tae being a powerful ally, it seems obvious that Su-Won has ulterior motives. Hmm pirates next episode? sounds interesting! |
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Mirorin said: Although I still want to continue hating Su-Won your comments definitely give good reason for why the King's murder should be tolerated. At this point tho, I think something to make this all even more interesting is to show what actually happened b/w the King and his brother. Like for instance, the king really had a good reason for killing him, or maybe he didn't do it at all and its a misunderstanding. I mean he's such a sweet person who Hak chose to follow (c'mon that holding the sword thing and bleeding in silence was admirable)! But realistically I don't trust that advisor Su-Won has. He seems dark and manipulative. He's definitely behind something. |
| Soo-won is so clever, I like smart characters. |
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| That was a VERY awesome episode. Soo-won is MUH NIGGA. I really wish he'd get more screen time. |
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| Mhm, more interesting than I thought it was going to be.. ((If I could use emojis I would use the one with a "not-too-shabby" kind of face at this point)) Totally knew that the new king had some idea going for him when he approached the Earth tribe; played it out better than I thought, I'm liking it. ^^ Next episode is back to Yona-tachi! Seems like Hak is going to play more of an important role this time compared to previous episodes; can't wait! |
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| This show really continues to impress me. Soo-Won shows his political prowess by gaining trust for allies as he seems to prepare to war. He puts on a show to rally the spirits of the tribal people for their own leader. This is more than simply a girl going to kick ass and reclaim her kingdom like it was implied. The little wife with her tea is super adorable too. But I'm getting nervous as we're really in the last leg of this series, ANN says this is 24 episodes and well we're still kind of gathering team Yona. I really don't want to see a rush job for the ending there's so much building and I'm hoping the payoff will be good. This is showing to be a very smartly written show let's just hope the pace will pick up a little more but I have been enjoying the moderate pace and getting really well rounded character development. |
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| Soo-won is sharp. Jae-ha looks epic in the PV. His eyes were a bit too droopy and apart in the manga, so I think this will be a pretty nice change for the art |
| Not quite sure how I feel about this episode. Soo-won is being portrayed in a much better light than he deserves. Sugar coat it all you want, he still murdered the father of his childhood friend, who both trusted and was in love with him. Conniving manipulators are usually sharp, but that does not exonerate his motives or actions in killing Yona;s father. |
| I like Yuno. On re-listening, the new OP really doesn't suit this anime at all, the fact they reused some animation doesn't help. lol. It's still nice tho. Su-Won running away tho lmao. I like his way of doing things. Seems like a fox but hawk works too, I guess. I think he tripped on purpose and yeah he did. I just love the chorus of ED song so much. |
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| This was kind of boring imo. Gung-tae's wife was really cute, though. |
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| He really just seems like a "rabbit", but deep inside, he is a lion! I think he is handsome, but after all Su-won did, I can't help but dislike him. |
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| I liked watching Gung-tae and Yuno interact, but other than that this episode just felt like a way of showing Su-won won the Earth tribe's allegiance. The hawk comment he made was important though I guess. I was thinking Su-won seemed kind of like a snake - he slithers around unnoticed and strikes at the most opportune moment. He's a smart character but I don't like him, even if he is good at leading a nation I wouldn't want someone willing to kill his uncle and close friends to get to the throne. |
| I've gotta admit, Su-Won is brilliant. Very cunning and manipulative as well. That moment when he got serious in the fight was intense, his gaze was like this intense rush of bloodlust. It was nice to see the other side of this story in a bit more depth, makes me wonder just how large scale this plans to get as it seems to hint at an upcoming war. |
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| Finally concludes the small parenthesis between Soo-Won and Gung-tae. The narrative was plausibly clear and has therefore given the unexpected twists, ultimately under the narrative level this episode is not very interesting, but in terms of the plot is an important piece to move it forward. Drawings and animations of good quality, pleasant vision overall. |
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| Soo-won is a genius. He's actually trying to improve the country and is already a better King than the previous one. Shame that he got the throne through such a dick move though. |
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Tohka_Yatogami said: Yuno is so cute. That mock battle was great! +1 She's adorable |
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| Yuno clearly best girl. |
slightly-angelic said: and forbade people from reading about King Hiryuu. I don't think that technically happened. I think that was only in the anime. |
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