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Melticos said: That's still your belief. Just because she is intellectual doesn't necessarily means she can defeat him by force. Don't you think she was intelligent enough to think she would fail if she opposed force with force when it came to Katze? Please tell me where in this sentence it says or even implies that Hajime will attempt to BEAT Berg with force if he was a direct kill sort of villain "No she would have transformed before reaching, lured him away from the spot and let Utsu collect injured then retreated" If i expect her to beat Berg, would i expect her to retreat? Maybe i'm thinking that she's the type that will beat the enemy to the ground then tell them she'll give them a chance to repent and change then run away? |
Melticos said: How do you know transformation can save her when Katze tries to attack her? As you know, Katze can be invisible. If he suddenly appears from behind, how can she defend herself? Like you saw her transformation in previous episode, it takes time for her to transform. What if Katze attacks her before transformation? Then please tell me why i said "No she would have transformed before reaching". I don't get what anyone would expect "before reaching" to mean anything else but reaching the location of the fight aka after they got off paiman's vehicle. Before reaching Nirvana? Before reaching the moon? Is the gatchaman supposed to have a time limit to the transformation like ultra man? Maybe their notes start beeping? The transformation doesn't need to "save" her. It simply needs to improve her chances of not dying while luring him from the location as well as increase the chances of her successfully retreating. Maybe the the improved movement, endurance, strength and agility of her gatchaman armor is supposed to get her killed faster than if she did not transform? Btw defending against just invisibility is a lot easier than attacking. You simply keep moving in random directions. |
| I'm really disappointed. I'll only keep watching to see what JJ does, if he does anything. |
| u gay |
Rui-Rui said: I guess this just somewhat proves that O.D didn't have the heart to finish off Berg Katze for some reason because it says that no living being is immune from his Matter Collapse AOE aura but Berg Katze is clearly still very much alive - he might have probably tried to fight Berg Katze untransformed which lead to his home-planet being wiped out either ways, hence why he is more leaning towards using his ability now at the last resort. Maybe Berg Katze was the friend he "lost". Kinda like Darth Vader and Obi-wan. Nevermind, it's actually Paiman's friend who died. |
TulicloureSep 7, 2013 1:10 PM
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| i love Pai-Pai reactions lol damn the OSt is epic |
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Melticos said: That's your belief that she would have transformed before reaching the spot. Also it's your belief she would not get caught and killed by Katze if she transformed. This is getting pointless. BTW even if she successfully survived and escaped from the spot, Katze could attack her another day. Hard to imagine she would keep moving in random directions 24/7. This is why I also can't help but think she is just lucky. I could very well say that its your belief that she would be a moron and charge the enemy then die. Unfortunately her previous actions do not flag her as a moron Like i said, smart people adapt their tactics to the situation. Only a moron and use 1 tactic vs everything. Eg. A moron would throw water on a fire fueled by oil (oil floats) since it would work against fired fueled by wood Tactics however do not guarantee success. Any person who actually has lived more than 5 years will know this. Feel free to tell me where i said Hajime would 100% succeed in getting away. what i did was simply using every advantage she had that i can think of, to increase the chances of success I would think that is more befitting someone of her intellect than thinking she would run into a war zone in her normal get up, slowly transform, then charge and attack something that has taken down 2 gatchaman and has 1 fearful enough that he ran away. Perhaps you think her a moron or perhaps you think such a tactic is the epitome of brilliance and is perfectly not suicidal, either way its is not logical Btw, she only needs to retreat successful once. A battle is not a war. Any further battles would be on different ground with different participants under different circumstances. Or to put it simply, i could simply say that she could go back to gatchaman HQ and since you say Berg is attacking her, he meets JJ and gets destroyed out of hand. Yes that is as dumb as it sounds but that is the best (aka most dumb) example i could think of that is at the level of the concept of Berg attacking Hajime regardless of where she is |
Zaku_FanSep 7, 2013 9:05 PM
| Where is my MESS-chan... MESS in one way is similar to Katze, attracted to negative emotions. But instead of pushing people to do evil, MESS 'ate' them alive, imprisoning them and erases their memories. Perhaps.. perhaps MESS was actually the one that prevents Katze madness all this time.. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| "if JJ is like God, he won't probably do anything." Well, he did give them the Gatchaman power didn't he. The way to use it is up to them. |
Stark700 said: Dat OST. Yup , it was intense. |
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| 17:39 EHEM! OHO! 19:34 PM didn't know? LOL Hajimechan hasn't been awesome for episodes. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
Koybz said: Well, definitely looking forward to the next episode and hopefully we'll get to see O.D's and Utsu-tsu suits as well. THEY'RE SO FABULOUS. Anyway, can't wait for the next one. |
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| Regarding The Gatchaman's interaction with J.J at the end of this episode, I hope they mean that they will start taking matters in their hands and not just stay still waiting for J.J's prophecies relying on them alone as Pai Pai always suggests. Because rejecting J.J completely seems kind of unreasonable, stupid if I dare say. |
| I love how the city is being destroyed by terrorists and they decide to start a cute Gatchaman show. It's how Hajime thinks to handle the situation and the others don't have any better ideas so they just go along with it optimistically. Thought it was weird how they told off JJ as if he was a bad guy or something. It's not like he has done anything to stop them from doing what they want. |
| Slaine did nothing wrong. |
| That opera (?) song when everything was getting destroyed was weird :p |
| ah rui show up :3 okay it started to get interesting :3 cool episode.. I wonder if rui joining gatchaman or something like that.. OD is really cool now :3 I started to like him :3 |
| Damn Pai Pai act like a leader for once. Hajime just take command officially already. |
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| Finally I get the story a little bit better. This episode was very good :3 |
| Rui joining up with Gatchaman and NeoHundred wreak havoc while Katze just cheer them on. Build up for the showdown in the next episode. Cool. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Some pretty steady development, really like where this is going! |
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| Hmm..JJ never really seem to command them around but clearly the Alien indicated that JJ frustrated him and that why he finds Gatchaman lame. So Hajime revolting against JJ is kind of going Katze's way ironically enough. Maybe Hajime doesn't plan to stop him by fighting at all but by giving him what he wants. |
| I just love Sugane's reaction when he knew Rui is a boy Miyano Mamoru's gold voice, really gold I wonder when is it Light will speak like Katze xD UnbornMVs said: Stark700 said: Dat OST. Yup , it was intense. This anime's gold is the ost, you know xD Monad said: Hmm..JJ never really seem to command them around but clearly the Alien indicated that JJ frustrated him and that why he finds Gatchaman lame. So Hajime revolting against JJ is kind of going Katze's way ironically enough. Maybe Hajime doesn't plan to stop him by fighting at all but by giving him what he wants. Oh, the Irony... oh wait Katze just love chaos.. Hajime, I'm sure she's not parfaited said: yukishiromei said: My God, Mamoru Miyano it's... incredible. His voice on Berg-Katze, damn, amazing. I can't even focus on the actual things going on in the episode because i'm just like *__* when listening to Katze. Miyano Mamoru is just fabulous xD |
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| this episode wasnt as good as the last few. i dont understand who would they say that they dont need him anymore. hes not bounding them or anything they can go fight telling him they have a free will. pai pai is the most annoying character here. hes useless, not a leader what so ever, he abandoned his friends when he was supposed to help them fight and hes not even good for jokes |
| that OST was pretty nice, will be downloading just for those sick opera tracks. |
| JJ better do some crazy shit later on or i'll see him as useless |
| Am I the only one bothered by how the whole 'MESS' plot was completely abandoned and ignored just like that? When at first it seemed like the story would revolve around the Gatchaman fighting aliens like it? |
| --- Twitter: @JusticeSoulTuna Wordpress: JusticeSoulTuna Youtube: JusticeSoulTuna I'm literally JST everywhere |
| Lol, Sugane thought Rui was a girl. But then again, I did too before. "You can turn it off if you don't like it." One of the best quotes in this anime. While Umeda and the Crowds are causing chaos, the Gatchaman and Rui are getting ready for the fight. But with over 20,000 Crowds, I don't know how they can do it. Especially with Berg-Katze at their side. |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
| I wonder how JJ and Berg Katze are connected if at all? He seemed quite nonchalant about being set aside by the crew. And I really want to see OD's Gatchaman. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I never saw Rui being a cross-dresser, thought I've thought that it'd be much better if her role as a protagonist was played by a male. 45Ravager said: Actually the fun part is that JJ never made anyone expect orders from him. He's been just needlessly idolized by Panda. There's even moral in this.I wonder if their way of doing things on their would lead to something misfortune, although I thought it was great of Sugane to stand up to JJ like that, his reaction didn't seem all that happy, so I'm wondering what that'll lead to. |
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| JJ needs to do something. Also Paipai is still lame as a leader. He can't seem to do anything. I hope we r get to see OD and Utstsu transform. We didn't get to see them transform yet. Good episode. |
| "You only live once" - Berg-Katze |
| Pai Pai is so cute, has his little baby panda chair, his panda phone charger. Awww so cute |
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| They ditch the person who gave them their power? Sure JJ's vague prophecies arent very helpful, but they just threw away a resource and gave no reason why... It's not like JJ exerted any control over them either. Hajime turned the whole organization upside down in her first week, revealing Gatchamen's existence, and was not punished for it. So I really dont get the point of that last scene. |
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| The chaos continues. Dayum, Sugane finally accepted that everyone needs to take it into their hands. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| I like the meta level in this episode. I remember people talking shit about Hajime and Rui before, but guess what! Whether it's in-universe or in real life, these characters are just too awesome and don't give a fuck about the mean things you say to them! I really love this show. It might become one of my favorites if the next few episodes blow me away, but I'll still rate it highly even if they don't. It's dark but at the same time SOOOOO optimistic and bright, and it simply works perfectly for me. |
little-flower said: I'm really disappointed. I'll only keep watching to see what JJ does, if he does anything. I am just watching for OD and that is all... |
| So Hajime essentially deanonimyzed Rui by posting that photo? During the meeting in the room, Utsutsu's and Rui's feet were poorly drawn. Katze managed to save some influence despite many people getting disappointed with GALAX after learning about LOAD's identity The shot when Umeda was driving home, overriden by a close-up of blue wilted flowers, was a good way to show the mood, IMO. One of the comments on social media said "someone make an anime out of this" xD OD's distorted face on Katze's screen :o Katze's reactions were absolute treasure. Was Hajime trying to find him on GALAX? The Prime Minister was suprised to learn about Gatchaman even though he had been told before! I wonder whether we'll learn the reason behind Utsutsu's clothes choice (or lack of clothes in case of her bikini) |
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