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Well that was quite something. Good to see Sora again.
Poor Kurome. Looks like she got involved too. But anyways, overall decent episode. Ah, Shiro is proud of Sora :3
Good Episode ^~^ Glad that Sora is finally back in the equation. Now the waiting game begins all over again.
IZEROII said: If you legitimately enjoyed this as a series then I honestly believe you need to reevaluate your definition of entertainment because watching tin foil blow in the wind probably is a way you kill time.
SolviteSekai said: Lol wish fulfillment. It's always been my wish to be a greasy lolicon with a mullet who plays Civ all day every day.
Nice episode, better troll. I love the fact that the writer and producer know what the naysayers are saying and having a lovely time playing with them. From the fake nudity nudity to this scene, lots of fun.
Kinda wished they added more detail from the novels but understandable that they had to cut some details to save time for the match against the warbeasts since its only 1 cour. I strongly suggest people go back and read this part in the novel since it has alot of dialogue covering what was going on in depth.
There was some amazing teamwork in this episode, thats for sure. The OST fit the scenes perfectly. The ending mislead me for a second there, lol. It was pretty good.
Wow This episode was amazing. I thought they were playing against the eastern federation, but I was way off. That first part was really creepy. I thought my boy sora was really gone. Or that he lost. That bet was really crazy. Seems like Sora and Shiro are really one and the same. Happy that Kurumi and Fel are part of the team now.
I felt they cut a bit too much from the LN, but I guess it can't be helped, since they're pressed for time. Wish they could've spent at least one more episode, to flesh out all the thought and deduction behind Sora's disappearance, but ah well.
Edit: still an enjoyable episode, Madhouse did well with the time they had, esp since they're trying to finish volume 3 by episode 12.
Everybody has the right to have his own opinion on something.And you do have the right to disagree with them.But that doesnt give you the right to impose your opinion on others, even though you do have the right to think you are fucking awesome.
Good ep. I wish they showed more of the match but oh well. Well finally he got the last piece to fight the warbeasts now. I can't wait for that match now!
This was a good episode. Sora and Shiro reunite again. Interesting bet that Sora proposed for the game. Must've been scary. Now Kurumi is on their side.
crevette said: Alright, two things I still don't get:
- how did Shiro go from "the last piece we need" to "an elf"?
- what did Sora mean with "we are not shounen manga protagonists"?
The elf bit you'll find out later
during the game against the Eastern Coalition. The elf will come in handy during that game, since only Imanity's memories will be erased in case they lose, and also to prevent blatant cheating by the enemy. The fact that an elf is there will also allow Sora to pressure the warbeasts during the game as well as later on, if they win.
As for the bit about not being manga protagonists,
what he meant was that this "separation" bit that often happens in manga leads to the growth and independence of the character that finds themselves alone. What Sora was saying was that she didn't need such character growth as the two of them working together were already a perfect whole. She didn't need to learn to let go or become independent, as that would lead to a game over for them, and Sora really dying.
I enjoyed this episode quite a lot. Shiro's thought process is simply amazing. This show enver fails to amaze me. I already knew the person he was playing against would be Kurumi I just didn't expect the game to still be ongoing.
Can't wait to see how he uses the elf to beat the warbeasts.
crevette said: Alright, two things I still don't get:
- how did Shiro go from "the last piece we need" to "an elf"?
If I remember correctly, the though path was a little different in the LN. Jibril went to confirm with the other races if Sora really existed. Having confirmed he existed, and that the game with the Eastern Federation was still to be scheduled, there was only one more race able/willing to intervene at this point.
crevette said: - what did Sora mean with "we are not shounen manga protagonists"?
Again I may be saying something wrong here since I already forgot all the details, but I believe it had something to do with the need of allies. Shounen manga protagonists do everything alone, however there was still a need for one last piece in order to win the game against the Eastern Federation. In this case, a allie was needed. Joining the dots, Shiro figured out that the elves were behind the memory lapse, and there was only one elf who had some chance to be called a ally... the one who accompanied Kurami during the king tournament game.
DarkMoonWolfJun 4, 2014 10:28 AM
Personal tastes are like peoples behinds, each one has its own,
and only those who wants to find [...] will smell one another.
This show is just too god damn boss. There was some next level shit going on in this "existence" game. Just when I thought that it would be difficult for the games and bets to get more interesting, Madhouse and company surprise me and come through once again.
I really loved the bond and trust that this episode showed between the siblings. "Blank never loses." And Sora is just one crazy sob. Using all this to gain Kurumi's trust and Fi's help. Only he could pull this shit off. I can't wait for the final battle against the warbeasts.
And I want there to be a confirmation for a second season at the end of episode 12. No need to wait a few months to announce it, Madhouse. Do the right thing.
When this season began, 4 shows were hotly anticipated by the fanbase:
The Irregular at Magical High School
Ping Pong the Animation
Knights of Sidonia and
No Game No Life
Two of the above shows were overhyped nonsense, the other two lived up to the hype and then some (Ping Pong the Animation). Guess which overhyped show I just dropped?
This show deserves extra special imagery to describe it. It's like staring at a dead body: you may have one or two thoughts but the activity (staring at a dead body) itself is pretty darn boring. Suddenly the dead body goes and voids its bowels right there in front of you like "Prrrrrftuftuftuftuftuf!!" and "woah!!!", you're so surprised you mistaken your reaction for a thrill.
That's pretty much No Game No Life. Long stretches of boring punctuated by empty thrills (the BGM and SFX are responsible for that).
So, they gained an ally who knows everything about them, and will therefore be able to predict what they're going to do/what they want/need. And the elf.
I think the reason for why Sora wants the right to alter Fil's memories, is that he'll send both of them to challenge the warbeasts, and probably lose at that time ,but they won't be able to alter Fil's memories, so she'll remember everything about the game, and that'll be vital to win for Sora & Shiro.
(And by reading further comments, i think that's either what'll happen, or they'll accompany them and there'll be only one game)
'Everything is impossible until proven possible.' - Me
ollythirteen said: When this season began, 4 shows were hotly anticipated by the fanbase:
The Irregular at Magical High School
Ping Pong the Animation
Knights of Sidonia and
No Game No Life
Two of the above shows were overhyped nonsense, the other two lived up to the hype and then some (Ping Pong the Animation). Guess which overhyped show I just dropped?
This show deserves extra special imagery to describe it. It's like staring at a dead body: you may have one or two thoughts but the activity (staring at a dead body) itself is pretty darn boring. Suddenly the dead body goes and voids its bowels right there in front of you like "Prrrrrftuftuftuftuftuf!!" and "woah!!!", you're so surprised you mistaken your reaction for a thrill.
That's pretty much No Game No Life. Long stretches of boring punctuated by empty thrills (the BGM and SFX are responsible for that).
Well sorry to point that out to you but NGNL was FAR from hyped...its announcement thread had 4 pages... xD
Nope it build its hype up by what it delivered, whether you like that or not.
Also I would like you to point out some examples for your opinion, cuz you write this like a fact ;-)
All the nits I could be picking...
What they did adapt, was adapted mostly gloriously, but what they left out leaves me in tears. Like how noone actualy knew what the pieces contained until they took it back from their foes (because if you play the piece, you don't know what you bet, if it gets taken, you forget it ever existed, then if you take it back, you remember it again).
Also, note: for Sora, Shiro, and his trust in her is more important than his very being.
Things I sort of missed:
The little monologue parts of Sora during Shiro's detective work, where he kept reciting who he was to try to make an assesment of what he might have lost; like:
I'm......Sora, Shiro's brother, then.......then what?
"————!?"
An indescribable cold struck me, the feeling as if my whole body was cracking open.
Who am I?
Where am I? Where did I come from? Where is my body?
Slowly becoming someone I'm not——this feeling was akin to [Horror].
The unbearable horror caused my teeth to chatter uncontrollably, as my senses are slowly being eroded one by one.
I could hear my brain shouting:
[This was as expected, this is going according to plan.]
——this horror of gradually disappearing is going according to plan?
Are you kidding? If this horror is supposedly a plan, then isn't this arrogance!
In this horror, is it even possible for my spirit to remain unbroken——
The scene, where Sora tried to become a woman, so that him entering the bath during group bathing wouldn't be 18+
Jibril's journey to the Eastern Union to confirm, that [ ]'s challengers had two people.
Jibril offering her head as apology for having ever doubted Shiro:
For Master to keep calling her brother——the man called Sora, Jibril was forced to take action.
——Suspecting her master was disrespectful and disgraceful.
If her master said that crows were white, then dyeing the three thousand crows in this world white was her duty.
Therefore, if her master said that the person called [Sora] exists, then he really must.
Then another sound came from the other side of the door——
"....Shiro can't sustain herself if this continues!!"
This was enough to force Steph to shout impatiently while slamming the door.
——As The Flügel from the sixth place of the [Sixteen races], possessing huge Elemental Gallery——a magic combatant race.
Because they themselves were God's [Completed magic], they couldn't use complex magic at all.
Not to mention that she has yet to completely grasp the psychological changes in the human species.
"....Looks like this is the only way."
——even without the use of magic, it was clear that her master was on the brink of a spiritual collapse.
It was a crime to even suspect her master, but——
"——Master, let us play a game."
".....Eh?"
Hearing Jibril's words, Steph——together with Shiro who was beyond the door had a reaction.
"[Acciente] and conduct a game with me——although this is extremely rude, but could you lose to me?"
——the sobbing did not stop.
But feeling that her intentions have gotten through——Jibril replied:
"——I would request for a [Seal on the memories about Sora]."
Steph widened her eyes in amazement after hearing the proclamation from Jibril.
Jibril understood the meaning behind her eyes.
Jibril and Steph could both understand, the sense of violation behind that bet.
That feeling told her to not abandon Shiro, but——
"At this rate, Master would——get broken."
Even if she were to die, she wouldn't ignore this dilemma.
Originally she should try and identify the contents of the Oath, and find a way to counteract it.
But that was too time consuming, and Shiro might collapse before that was completed.
For the time being, it was necessary to seal the memory to calm her master down, before finding the culprit and——
(Be sure to decapitate and turn him into sauce.)
With a gentle smile that was nostalgic, Jibril let out [Killing intent]. This sent chills down Steph's spines as she stood petrified, but nevertheless she tried to appease the uneasy Jibril.
"Ji, Jibril. Ca, calm down——"
However, the atmosphere that Jibril was exuding out didn't allow her to continue speaking.
——forbid the usage of force in the [Ten Oaths]....so what?
As long as the culprit was found and she wins the game, she would personally kill the person after getting the [Approval].
After that, she would be willing to accept any form of punishment from her master for suspecting that Sora didn't exist.
*Ping*, an application started up in the tablet on Jibril's hand.
The application that opened was———chess.
To Shiro, this was a game that she would never lose, it was entirely information-based zero-sum game of limited decisions.
Thus——as long as she wanted to lose, she could do it.
A timid and small voice that had sobs in between, came out of the door.
".....[Acci.......en.....te]."
Bowing deeply, Jibril replied:
"Thank you, Master....[Acciente].
...........................................
"....Nii...exists...."
"——yes, just as you said. I'm willing to accept any punishment——"
At the Eastern Union Embassy——she inquired to Hatsuse Ino and confirmed [Sora]'s existence.
She suspected her master, thinking that she had lost——
"...Then....I command you."
"Yes, as you command."
If she was ordered to die, Jibril would unhesitatingly do it.
And they didn't show the core of the Materializing Shiritori (modified) being destroyed.
And yes, I did just list most of my gripes again... But what can you expect? I soddin' love the series, and I want it to be even better...
Though the way how they made the setup to crying part all suggestive earn kudos to Madhouse... But really, those guys have so many of those, they could burn it for winter, and have no problems for the next century...
There was no way for Shiro to move out of check, therefore checkmate.
Even if Shiro was just in check her checkmate would still be an illegal move.
Wait... you were actually looking at the pieces on the board? I can't tell where all the pieces are from those few close ups. I was just quoting what Jibril was saying. If that's the case hat's off to you sir.
GreenDrag said:
What they did adapt, was adapted mostly gloriously, but what they left out leaves me in tears.
I know how you feel. Wish they had had more time to adapt more from the LN.
ollythirteen said: When this season began, 4 shows were hotly anticipated by the fanbase:
The Irregular at Magical High School
Ping Pong the Animation
Knights of Sidonia and
No Game No Life
Two of the above shows were overhyped nonsense, the other two lived up to the hype and then some (Ping Pong the Animation). Guess which overhyped show I just dropped?
This show deserves extra special imagery to describe it. It's like staring at a dead body: you may have one or two thoughts but the activity (staring at a dead body) itself is pretty darn boring. Suddenly the dead body goes and voids its bowels right there in front of you like "Prrrrrftuftuftuftuftuf!!" and "woah!!!", you're so surprised you mistaken your reaction for a thrill.
That's pretty much No Game No Life. Long stretches of boring punctuated by empty thrills (the BGM and SFX are responsible for that).
Well sorry to point that out to you but NGNL was FAR from hyped...its announcement thread had 4 pages... xD
Nope it build its hype up by what it delivered, whether you like that or not.
Also I would like you to point out some examples for your opinion, cuz you write this like a fact ;-)
When "Kill la Kill" was wrapping up and people began to look to the future (Spring Lineup 2014) all you heard about was either Mahouka or No Game No Life. You couldn't not hear about them due to how...um, "scant" the upcoming season looked, entertainment-wise.
As for my opinion, it's just that: an opinion. It's how I feel after watching each episode; "dirty" and "embarrassed" for what hollow little moment "thrilled" me out of my bored stupor.
Hell, I don't even remember what happened in the episode and I just watched it.
I'm done now, though (stating my opinion, but yeah, also with this show).
GreenDrag said: All the nits I could be picking...
What they did adapt, was adapted mostly gloriously, but what they left out leaves me in tears. Like how noone actualy knew what the pieces contained until they took it back from their foes (because if you play the piece, you don't know what you bet, if it gets taken, you forget it ever existed, then if you take it back, you remember it again).
Also, note: for Sora, Shiro, and his trust in her is more important than his very being.
Things I sort of missed:
The little monologue parts of Sora during Shiro's detective work, where he kept reciting who he was to try to make an assesment of what he might have lost; like:
I'm......Sora, Shiro's brother, then.......then what?
"————!?"
An indescribable cold struck me, the feeling as if my whole body was cracking open.
Who am I?
Where am I? Where did I come from? Where is my body?
Slowly becoming someone I'm not——this feeling was akin to [Horror].
The unbearable horror caused my teeth to chatter uncontrollably, as my senses are slowly being eroded one by one.
I could hear my brain shouting:
[This was as expected, this is going according to plan.]
——this horror of gradually disappearing is going according to plan?
Are you kidding? If this horror is supposedly a plan, then isn't this arrogance!
In this horror, is it even possible for my spirit to remain unbroken——
The scene, where Sora tried to become a woman, so that him entering the bath during group bathing wouldn't be 18+
Jibril's journey to the Eastern Union to confirm, that [ ]'s challengers had two people.
Jibril offering her head as apology for having ever doubted Shiro:
For Master to keep calling her brother——the man called Sora, Jibril was forced to take action.
——Suspecting her master was disrespectful and disgraceful.
If her master said that crows were white, then dyeing the three thousand crows in this world white was her duty.
Therefore, if her master said that the person called [Sora] exists, then he really must.
Then another sound came from the other side of the door——
"....Shiro can't sustain herself if this continues!!"
This was enough to force Steph to shout impatiently while slamming the door.
——As The Flügel from the sixth place of the [Sixteen races], possessing huge Elemental Gallery——a magic combatant race.
Because they themselves were God's [Completed magic], they couldn't use complex magic at all.
Not to mention that she has yet to completely grasp the psychological changes in the human species.
"....Looks like this is the only way."
——even without the use of magic, it was clear that her master was on the brink of a spiritual collapse.
It was a crime to even suspect her master, but——
"——Master, let us play a game."
".....Eh?"
Hearing Jibril's words, Steph——together with Shiro who was beyond the door had a reaction.
"[Acciente] and conduct a game with me——although this is extremely rude, but could you lose to me?"
——the sobbing did not stop.
But feeling that her intentions have gotten through——Jibril replied:
"——I would request for a [Seal on the memories about Sora]."
Steph widened her eyes in amazement after hearing the proclamation from Jibril.
Jibril understood the meaning behind her eyes.
Jibril and Steph could both understand, the sense of violation behind that bet.
That feeling told her to not abandon Shiro, but——
"At this rate, Master would——get broken."
Even if she were to die, she wouldn't ignore this dilemma.
Originally she should try and identify the contents of the Oath, and find a way to counteract it.
But that was too time consuming, and Shiro might collapse before that was completed.
For the time being, it was necessary to seal the memory to calm her master down, before finding the culprit and——
(Be sure to decapitate and turn him into sauce.)
With a gentle smile that was nostalgic, Jibril let out [Killing intent]. This sent chills down Steph's spines as she stood petrified, but nevertheless she tried to appease the uneasy Jibril.
"Ji, Jibril. Ca, calm down——"
However, the atmosphere that Jibril was exuding out didn't allow her to continue speaking.
——forbid the usage of force in the [Ten Oaths]....so what?
As long as the culprit was found and she wins the game, she would personally kill the person after getting the [Approval].
After that, she would be willing to accept any form of punishment from her master for suspecting that Sora didn't exist.
*Ping*, an application started up in the tablet on Jibril's hand.
The application that opened was———chess.
To Shiro, this was a game that she would never lose, it was entirely information-based zero-sum game of limited decisions.
Thus——as long as she wanted to lose, she could do it.
A timid and small voice that had sobs in between, came out of the door.
".....[Acci.......en.....te]."
Bowing deeply, Jibril replied:
"Thank you, Master....[Acciente].
...........................................
"....Nii...exists...."
"——yes, just as you said. I'm willing to accept any punishment——"
At the Eastern Union Embassy——she inquired to Hatsuse Ino and confirmed [Sora]'s existence.
She suspected her master, thinking that she had lost——
"...Then....I command you."
"Yes, as you command."
If she was ordered to die, Jibril would unhesitatingly do it.
And they didn't show the core of the Materializing Shiritori (modified) being destroyed.
And yes, I did just list most of my gripes again... But what can you expect? I soddin' love the series, and I want it to be even better...
Though the way how they made the setup to crying part all suggestive earn kudos to Madhouse... But really, those guys have so many of those, they could burn it for winter, and have no problems for the next century...
As much as I agree with you but Sora said that both players don't know what the numbers on the pieces stood for until they lost it.
Around 12:00 to be precise ;-)
EDIT: As for the throne room flashback I guess apart from timing restrictions they also wanted to make this episode nearly 100% serious
Another great episode! To bad that the part where Kurami wonders, after receiving some of Sora's memories, how did go trough such an experience (not specified what experience) without going crazy, was left out. Maybe they will mention something about it in the next episode?
Well until the next episode.
As for the Chess thing - after the Check Shiro protected her King. Not sure but then a few other moves were played (1-3) before Shiro Checkmated.
ollythirteen said: When "Kill la Kill" was wrapping up and people began to look to the future (Spring Lineup 2014) all you heard about was either Mahouka or No Game No Life. You couldn't not hear about them due to how...um, "scant" the upcoming season looked, entertainment-wise.
As for my opinion, it's just that: an opinion. It's how I feel after watching each episode; "dirty" and "embarrassed" for what hollow little moment "thrilled" me out of my bored stupor.
Hell, I don't even remember what happened in the episode and I just watched it.
I'm done now, though (stating my opinion, but yeah, also with this show).
Goodbye.
Most of the places I frequent, NGNL went by unnoticed, or was barely even mentioned You must have been moving in circles, that already knew what they were getting into (ie: readers of the novel), and thus you were getting the "all you hear about" feeling.
As someone that read the novel i know that they cut some parts that made this part even more epic.
But i can actually understand they cutting it to make it in time,since theres only 3 episodes remaining for this anime they can't afford to do more than that, i don't blame they, it was perfect executed the way it was anyway.