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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Wow great episode loved the assassination spree XD eh btw wat's with the dog <_< im suspecting someone outside of inferno is investigating the super assassins XD |
| It is a good episode, full of action and continues to really show how degraded Ein is by Scythe Master. |
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| The massive assassinations was pretty awesome. I loved the ending because it showed exactly how far Inferno's power goes. |
| Ok epsisode. I was a little bored by the pace, and since they didn't even really bother to distinguish who the targets were relative to Inferno, I was a little confused, and definitely detached from the action. The character design is so bland that I thought that the people dying were either apart of inferno, Tony look-alikes, or people who died in the last episode. |
| Not bad, but what noteDhero said. You couldn't tell who where they killing nor did it matter. From the preview it would seem we'll get the ein vs zwei clash way ahead of expected, in ep 7 already. |
Kvakond said: Not bad, but what noteDhero said. You couldn't tell who where they killing nor did it matter. From the preview it would seem we'll get the ein vs zwei clash way ahead of expected, in ep 7 already. Dunno they might not clash in ep7 might be a more training or a inferno test, we will see next week. I liked this episode, really love how cold they are. Music makes it so chilling when they kill (great song wish I knew what it was). It seems to me they try to keep there mind black and there emotions repressed with internal conflict raging underneath. Think Ein is lonely and really likes (loves) Zwai, but regardless she will try to kill him if necessary (ep7) but internally hopes she will lose to him. I really love this anime, it just went up to my # 1 or 2 (I would have to rewatch Death Note and decide). It make you think, you try to figure out what is going on in there heads; you try to imagine how it would be in there shoes. Most animes are more or less recycled; group of people (teens with superpowers or good organisation might be secret set up to protect the world against some evil.) fighting evil with comedy relief during episode. Phantom is different, that is what I love about it. I liked the mass assassinations in this episode, I would liked it even more if they showed all 12 but I guess they could not do it in time given (well they could have done special and done it in 45min). slayer545samayy I don't share your opinion at all! I love Ein and Zwai they are just so..... hard to put in words, cool does not do them justice as anime characters (compared to other anime main characters). Think you need to try to dig into there psyche and try to get why.... (underdogs losers nobody's are indulging in power, taking revenge for there mediocrity and all the crap word/life piled on them in their previous life). Its extremely hard to explain it, it just the way I channel them and absorb the anime that might be different to you. That is why I love Kira and I guess you love L |
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slayer545samayy said: (...) I WILL ALWAYS BE HERE AND THERE UNTIL A UNBAN OF MY ORIGINAL ACCOUNT IS DONE. THIS CALLED PRESSURE TACTICS. Hate posts wont work, nor will your tacting (Lifetime ban for your ISP IP incoming?) Anw Good episode. It had a good amount of Ein so it was win xD. Scythe creeps me out. |
| That's great, Scythe Master, that's really great. However, I'm sorry, but Zwei's going to steal Ein from you :P This was a great episode, really enjoyed it. |
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| Loved the hand monologue at the beginning and the conversation at the end. Thoughout there seem to be signs that he is slipping further, while she is beginning to glimpse her humanity again.. Also interesting to see how Ms McCunnen is already effecting Zwei's way of thinking, conflicting with Ein's. Ok the oil rubbing I got, since it was like the maintainence of his guns, but wth was with the photography session? -_- Well it felt wrong how they took out all those guys, even if we didn't really know their significance until after the deed. Inferno really isn't being portrayed with even an ounce of regret or sympathy, I look forward to its demise ^^ |
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| Another great ep. This is probably my #1 show this, everything about it is just...so good. Scythe creeps me out a tad bit though. |
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| it was an okay okay episode o_o ... the wat they planning the killings was quite interesting thou~ |
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| It was OK episode, but I think it was the "worst" one so far. As it was said, I really felt out of the action, too, didn't really care who and why die... But what I disliked the most was Scythe goals... I really hoped he was just the creepy doc who "created" his greatest tool(Phantom) and all he wanned was just to "use" it to his heart content, but to my greatest dissapointment he wants to play the "god", too. :( |
| nice episode - assassination overload XD |
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Kvakond said: Not bad, but what noteDhero said. You couldn't tell who where they killing nor did it matter. That wasn't so hard to understand if you were paying attention. They were targeting the mafia bosses of the area, and then made it look like it was the doing of another family, like in a gang war. Example: First, Ein killed one member of family A. Then, she passed on the gun used to kill him to Inferno-affiliate in family B. Zwei kills the boss of family B, and the Inferno-affiliate acts like the the attacker was actually the guy from family A which Ein just killed. Lather, rinse, repeat. Essentially, they were camouflaging Inferno's killing of the "old bosses" to let the Inferno-friendly second line take command. Result: The new Inferno-friendlies take over to end the sudden "gang war", and a bribed police officer gets kicked up to captain to wrap it all up. So yes, it DID matter. Pretty much, in fact. From the preview it would seem we'll get the ein vs zwei clash way ahead of expected, in ep 7 already. No. That's a flashback from the past (see the preview text, too). In any case, I'm absolutely delighted by this version. It stays true to the atmosphere and characters, and it even helps to develop important issues, like the borderless ambition of Scythe Master, the hatred between Claudia and him for usurping her role, the difference between Ein and Zwei when it comes to "asking themselves why"... Wonderful... |
| Another great episode, a blood bath one at that.lol. Watch your back Claudia. Don't let him get to you. The way they killed that guy on the freeway was just ruthless lol, i guess it doesn't matter in the end as long as their dead but got damn anyway. 5/5 |
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| Zwei using that wire seriously reminded me of hei from darker than black. Next episode looks like Zwei's past, from before he was brainwashed. Looks like some background on Zwei and how he became caught in this crazy world. If Inferno continues this spree, they could eventually take over an island... a nation... and even the world... |
Mentar said: The thing is that they had stated that Tony was the only one in the area, and Inferno was only talking about taking care of Tony. So once the plan started talking about 12 guys total, it was ambiguous because they didn't really mention who was who and connected to what group, so it seemed like (at the beginning) that it was just Tony and his men that were being targeted. Of course, that didn't make sense because practically all of his men got slaughtered in the previous episode. It wasn't until the very end when Anton killed Tony that everything made sense. The characters that died weren't important because they weren't even given names or face time. It was just to more badassery from Ein and Zwei while clearing out the conflict for Inferno. |
| Nice killing spree is nice! But, I agree that the episode isn't particularly compelling dramatically, even if it is pretty crucial plot-wise as far as Inferno is concerned. Consequently, I'd rate it as the weakest episode so far, which is not to say that it was bad by any means -- just that its specifics are unmemorable. (Other than certain images of Ein, which will continue to dance merrily like sugar-plums in my head... :D) Though, Ein's overly-nihilistic dialogue near the end -- win! Haha. |
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Rudgald said: It was OK episode, but I think it was the "worst" one so far. As it was said, I really felt out of the action, too, didn't really care who and why die... But what I disliked the most was Scythe goals... I really hoped he was just the creepy doc who "created" his greatest tool(Phantom) and all he wanned was just to "use" it to his heart content, but to my greatest dissapointment he wants to play the "god", too. :( qft |
| 5/5.. now here's something i don't see everytime.. a massacre that looked like they all killed each other out.. |
| No, it was either 12 bosses or 6 bosses and 6 scapegoats. I don't think Tony's spies (and I thought there was only one) had anything to do with the deaths. |
| great episode. scythe master is creepy and now he has more power within inferno. actually i prefer ms mccunnen than him but then in this series, everyone has their own agenda. prolly except ein and zwei |
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noteDhero said: No, it was either 12 bosses or 6 bosses and 6 scapegoats. I don't think Tony's spies (and I thought there was only one) had anything to do with the deaths. The six spies that Tony sent out were the 6 scapegoats framed for killing the six bosses. |
noteDhero said: Mentar said: The thing is that they had stated that Tony was the only one in the area, and Inferno was only talking about taking care of Tony. So once the plan started talking about 12 guys total, it was ambiguous because they didn't really mention who was who and connected to what group, so it seemed like (at the beginning) that it was just Tony and his men that were being targeted. Of course, that didn't make sense because practically all of his men got slaughtered in the previous episode. It wasn't until the very end when Anton killed Tony that everything made sense. The characters that died weren't important because they weren't even given names or face time. It was just to more badassery from Ein and Zwei while clearing out the conflict for Inferno. When Inferno was having their meeting one of the members says something like 'So Tony plans to get us where it hurts'. This is easy to understand since the only thing that would hurt them is if their bosses knew they where apart of Inferno a rival organization (like Tony mentioned earlier). That basically gave away the rest of the episode for me. The only things I wasn't expecting to see Inferno members actually get involved. So far we've only seen the two Phantoms kill people so it was a bit of a shock seeing how things turned out. |
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| Awesome assassinations once again. I wonder what'll happen next once all Inferno's oppositions on the west coast have been eliminated. And the doctor with Ein fetish is creepy >_> |
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| Cool episode but clearly a lack of rythm in the plot :( |
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| The assassination was good,overall i enjoyed the episode. |
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| Meh.. they should show more footage whether "Ein" is also a sex-toy for the 'Scythe-master'. I feel like they're holding back on that.. cuz it might appear too extreme.. according to the creators/producers? ( I hate that kind of attitude). The same regarding "Zwei" and his boss McCunnen, they're really avoiding any ecchi/sexual content.. and it's starting to feel a bit forced. So far an "OK" show.. I'm waiting for something 'touching' to happen .. bleh.. In other words.. ZWEI GIVE EIN A HUG! (atleast) |
| I liked the episode very much so. I thought the music score tied in greatly with the assassination scenes as well. But it is official that Scythe master has a creepy obsession with Ein. I will love to see what happens if ( or when ) Zwei takes her away from him. Its going t be very interesting. |
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| Meh episode. Wasn't really that interesting. |
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noteDhero said: The thing is that they had stated that Tony was the only one in the area, and Inferno was only talking about taking care of Tony. So once the plan started talking about 12 guys total, it was ambiguous because they didn't really mention who was who and connected to what group, so it seemed like (at the beginning) that it was just Tony and his men that were being targeted. Of course, that didn't make sense because practically all of his men got slaughtered in the previous episode. It wasn't until the very end when Anton killed Tony that everything made sense. It clicked with me when I saw Ein hand over the gun to guy 2, who subsequently fingered the wrong guy. That was when I understood it was an effort to frame things as a gang war. Anton put the icing on the cake in the end, and spelled everything out loud. The characters that died weren't important because they weren't even given names or face time. It was just to more badassery from Ein and Zwei while clearing out the conflict for Inferno. There weren't any superhuman feats going on here, it was a cold and sober execution (pun intended), nothing more, nothing less. What I liked was how they managed to wrap things up in a fairly logical way, and it also layed some important groundwork for things to come - but I don't want to go into too much detail here in order not to spoil. You'll see. |
| lol@ep 6 -I disliked it a lot I'm very disappointed that Mafia dad died that early. What a shame,that they rushed these assasinations,I didn't get who was who. The Scythe Master is totally perverted,the photoshooting was only crazy sh** and felt totally unfitting |
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Mentar said: noteDhero said: The thing is that they had stated that Tony was the only one in the area, and Inferno was only talking about taking care of Tony. So once the plan started talking about 12 guys total, it was ambiguous because they didn't really mention who was who and connected to what group, so it seemed like (at the beginning) that it was just Tony and his men that were being targeted. Of course, that didn't make sense because practically all of his men got slaughtered in the previous episode. It wasn't until the very end when Anton killed Tony that everything made sense. It clicked with me when I saw Ein hand over the gun to guy 2, who subsequently fingered the wrong guy. That was when I understood it was an effort to frame things as a gang war. Anton put the icing on the cake in the end, and spelled everything out loud. The characters that died weren't important because they weren't even given names or face time. It was just to more badassery from Ein and Zwei while clearing out the conflict for Inferno. There weren't any superhuman feats going on here, it was a cold and sober execution (pun intended), nothing more, nothing less. What I liked was how they managed to wrap things up in a fairly logical way, and it also layed some important groundwork for things to come - but I don't want to go into too much detail here in order not to spoil. You'll see. I didn't say there were any superhuman feats. I said "badassery." If you don't think Zwei jumping off from the second floor down to a party and not being noticed until he shoots someone, then killing that guy in the back of the car; while Ein is sniping and assassinates Tony while riding a motorcycle, I think there's something off with you. Not to mention that they prefaced the mission with "the job is easy, but the precision to pull it off is hard" and then the members of Inferno and Claudia's bodyguard thinking that relying solely on Ein and Zwei is reckless, you know what I'll will say it was damn near superhuman. And it was a total showcase of that fact because they didn't bother to give the viewer any sense of attachment to the characters dying...except Tony. Maybe you think I'm saying it as a bad thing. It's just what happened. |
| The killing spree was beautifully done, i don't care who died, ein and zwei were just plain badass. I'll add that I like that there's plot and not just nonstop action. I really like this anime. |
| this ep didn't leave me with any emotions like the previous eps have.. I wonder why that could be? This series is truly a hard series to consider yet I still appreciate it enough to continue watching it. May this series contine on its good luck streak and keep the masses happy. |
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| Good episode, that showed a lot of developments on the big picture but nothing concerning the characters. I hope that Claudia will crush Scythe Master when they'll face off one day, she deserves it, and I hope Zwei will take her side too. |
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SilentPredator03 said: Turbe said: this ep didn't leave me with any emotions like the previous eps have.. I wonder why that could be? I'd venture to say it's the same reason I didn't like this episode as much as the previous: it moved too fast. Most of the series so far has been kept at a slow pace in order to increase tension and it has also worked for the subtle character building. You didn't have any of that this time. It was straight into killing a bunch of faceless mooks and Tony. There wasn't anything to really get attached to. There's a lot of subtlety in the interactions between Ein and Zwei because they can't just come out and say anything. Hopefully the next episode will slow things back down so we can get some development. I actually disagree. I think that given everything that's happened, the pace is quite fast. Zwei went through a lot of training and now is it 2 or 3 missions? I think the problem why you aren't getting any "emotions" is something I've been touching on: the characters are hollow and don't really care about themselves. We keep hearing dolls and puppets mentioning the main characters; Claudia is barely around, and Scythe is nothing more than a bad mad scientist. We don't have backgrounds to attach to. We don't have character struggles to root for. We don't have anything in the way of viewer engagement besides violence, and after knowing the kid got shot, we're now totally desensitized. At this point the only thing the story can do is start moving towards Claudia getting Zwei (and maybe Ein) to side with her and fight to either topple or take control of Inferno. |
| Excelent episode! Great action and Zwein begins to question, meanwhile Scythe Master begins to show signs of a great ambition! |
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| Truth is of no importance, facts are usually distorted and turned into propaganda and lies replaces the truth, this is how the world is all about. Reality says so.. However, there is always a handful or two of people who knows of the truth and the facts but those people are usually unimportant or irrelevant nowadays. Unfortunately, an internal conflict will rise.. |
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noteDhero said: At this point the only thing the story can do is start moving towards Claudia getting Zwei (and maybe Ein) to side with her and fight to either topple or take control of Inferno. then what's so wrong with it? don't tell me it's predictability - it's just too late to do it... |
| That was quite the massacre. Ein looked beautiful in that dress. Can't wait for Zwei to free her from that professor who sort of views Ein as his own personal tool. =/ |
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