| for a while most people who watched this show were enjoying it. then the twist happened and everyone started calling it terrible. why do people find it terrible. i mean yes the twist changed a lot but the show was pretty much the same just less realistic. |
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| The lack of realism isn't what bothers me, but the execution of the "twist." It came out of nowhere and quite honestly each new episode only added more nonsensical mayhem to the mix, turning it into a show that parodies just for the sake of parodying. Spoilers up to episode 11 - Since the series isn't over, my opinion is always subject to change, but so far it's gone from clever jabs at super hero fantasies in the face of reality to parody just for the hell of it. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: The lack of realism isn't what bothers me, but the execution of the "twist." It came out of nowhere and quite honestly each new episode only added more nonsensical mayhem to the mix, turning it into a show that parodies just for the sake of parodying. Spoilers up to episode 11 - Since the series isn't over, my opinion is always subject to change, but so far it's gone from clever jabs at super hero fantasies in the face of reality to parody just for the hell of it. ya i know what you mean since i just watched episode 11 (ironically enough right after i made this thread i watched it) |
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| there ain't enough realism in my fiction |
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| I think the lack of realism is great. It was boring me before the twist. Uninteresting characters, no comedy, boring drama, etc. I at least have something to look forward to each week. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: The lack of realism isn't what bothers me, but the execution of the "twist." It came out of nowhere and quite honestly each new episode only added more nonsensical mayhem to the mix, turning it into a show that parodies just for the sake of parodying. Spoilers up to episode 11 - Since the series isn't over, my opinion is always subject to change, but so far it's gone from clever jabs at super hero fantasies in the face of reality to parody just for the hell of it. pretty much, before the twist the jokes were clever and had witty build ups and pay offs, after the twist its main joke was that things were absurd Honestly the best way i can think of for its deterioration in quality is, it went from futurama to family guy |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I'm still trying to convince myself it's the same show. What happened. |
| Souichi saved this show. GOTO IS FLAMEN YELLOW |
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weak said: I'm still trying to convince myself it's the same show. What happened. Guillotine Gorilla happened. |
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| Cuz the twist was ridiculously poorly done.... it was an ok anime, with some potential but after that it started to look more and more ridiculous every episode... |
| I like it. |
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mbdsquad said: 5 Reasons Why People Continue Watching This Show 1. It's too late to quit midway. 2. I'm committed and never dropped an anime. 3. I'm too dumb to realize the 10 shortcomings listed above (plus 1). 4. It's fun. (...) 5. I hate haters, so I love the anime instead 6. Sugita Tomokazu |
| 7. I'm just on for the ride until it goes to the point where it cannot go downhill or I get totally bored with it. I'd love to see a change in fortunes for this but I heard that the studio is on the verge of bankruptcy? Such a shame, just like how this anime went. |
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| 'pretty much the same' lmao sure if it's meant to be a parody, it's a pretty shitty one because a good one wouldn't have evoked such a negative reaction. now it just feels like the writers just started pulling any random thing out of their asses. it's like they're trying to fit in too many things into the show and they can't handle it so they end up half assing it. LittleStar said: 6. Sugita Tomokazu ^^^^^^^^^ |
LittleStar said: 6. Sugita Tomokazu There's just no other reason. |
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mbdsquad said: 10 Reasons Why People Hate This Show (besides it's less realistic) 1. Plot twist/development is ridiculous and poorly executed. 2. Art quality has degraded. 3. Animation quality has degraded. 4. Plot depth became shallow. 5. Main character's character development has stopped. 6. Cheap, lame, non-witty jokes. 7. Cliched, redundant (sentai) character script lines. 8. The anime is half-ass (i.e. half-action, half-comedy, half-parody). 9. Unoriginal. Nothing new or recent to boot. 10. A f'ing rip-off from other original anime. My thoughts exactly, honestly i was having fun with the first episodes when it was kind of realistic, when people tried to catch samumenco for the bounty, the problems with the police, the ridiculous situations in which a nowadays hero was involved. Then the twist happened, it could have been turned into something good but no, they didin't even try to explain what was going on and the twists keeped appearing , ¿is this the same world that was presented in the beginning? |
LittleStar said: 6. Sugita Tomokazu[/quote Totally my reason to stay as well. Right after "I really like most of the characters in the show, even with all the goofy shit happening around them." |
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Lanhikari said: My thoughts exactly, honestly i was having fun with the first episodes when it was kind of realistic, when people tried to catch samumenco for the bounty, the problems with the police, the ridiculous situations in which a nowadays hero was involved. Then the twist happened, it could have been turned into something good but no, they didin't even try to explain what was going on and the twists keeped appearing , ¿is this the same world that was presented in the beginning? Personally I still think the umbrella chase scene was far more heroic and noteworthy than anything that's happened after episode 6. |
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| I liked it when it was just normal people pretending to be power rangers until they just made it the cartoon version of power rangers. Now instead of the cheesy lines and poses being there as a parody it feels like the show actually wants to be one of those old sentai squad or power ranger shows. And that's what new power ranger shows are trying to do these days and look how they're turning out |
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JeffreyZin said: Objurgo said: I liked it when it was just normal people pretending to be power rangers until they just made it the cartoon version of power rangers. Now instead of the cheesy lines and poses being there as a parody it feels like the show actually wants to be one of those old sentai squad or power ranger shows. And that's what new power ranger shows are trying to do these days and look how they're turning out Well, I'm also a big fan of Power Rangers since when I was a kid (of Course Super Sentai which it's the tokusatsu show before Power Rangers adapt in US). Well I just watched the latest episode and it's getting interesting again x] A part of me wishes they didn't skip over a lot of the action though. |
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| i actually think that the creators are trolling after the plot twist at the end (after the credits) of episode 12 |
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F8L-Fool said: Same, I actually enjoyed the realism. It was like seeing normal comic hero characters placed in a somewhat grounded world. Then episode 7/8 came along and turned that on its head, and just made it into another generic comic hero world. Granted, I think it's trying to parody the idea of comic book heroes, but I wasn't watching the show to get a satirical commentary on it. I liked the original concept of an inherently good man trying to make a difference in the world, one umbrella at a time. I was expecting it to have to be about him coming to terms slowly with reality, while at the same time holding on to his ideals, but...Ratohnhaketon said: Personally I still think the umbrella chase scene was far more heroic and noteworthy than anything that's happened after episode 6. That scene, along with the strange dynamic with Flamenco Girl and everything about Goto is what I enjoyed most up until now. It was nice having a somewhat deadpan and grounded character like Goto to offset the wackiness of the other characters. I went into this show thinking it was a more realistic approach to the genre. Then they flipped it on its head and it turned to crap. I'll finish the show just to see how much more it can bomb. |
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| I thought this was going to be a different kind of hero show, like Kick-ass, but then it took a turn in the wrong direction. |
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| i feel like this show is trying to make fun of super sentai cliches now but in the eend it just ended up just making super sentai cliches, like its taken a step past parody and just jumped into being a bad show |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Somewhere in Manglobe's office, there's a box labeled as "series direction." Staff are asked to put in suggestions of what they think would make the show interesting regardless of the flow of the story. Then every meeting, they pick one from the box to decide what they'll do for the next episode. :D |
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| I think the hatred towards the series is more of "I hate Super Sentai shit" rather than "This story has no consistency whatsoever". I mean, the majority of the comments I have read through are basically a comment from a person hating on the Super Sentai/Power Ranger. Because a lot of criticism comes with the territory. And I say to them: "It's not for you". It does get ridiculous at times, but they all had a reason as to why. With the 'monster of the week' that Flamenco was fighting against, people grown apathetic and the scientist pointed out that the monster attack does not make any sense whatsoever. As it turns out, their remains would build up into a giant monster. With "From Beyond", it went through the formula again, but as it turns out, they were testing the Flamranger's strength and used it to launch an all-out attack. It's a smart deconstruction of the Super Sentai series and that is what the series was aiming for anyway. If people are still going to complain about it being cliched and too much like the Sentai series, I advise them to not watch it and just move on. But if they are going to properly criticise it, then it's worth having an argument about. But most of the people's arguments boil down to "Guillotine Gorilla ruined everything. Now it's too cliche" |
xchee said: Somewhere in Manglobe's office, there's a box labeled as "series direction." Staff are asked to put in suggestions of what they think would make the show interesting regardless of the flow of the story. Then every meeting, they pick one from the box to decide what they'll do for the next episode. :D Nah this is what happened: So there's one box labeled "Samurai Flamenco series direction papers" and the other one "kiddy sentai show" and some cleaner at Manglobe accidentally bumped into these two boxes, the papers in the boxes flying everywhere and the cleaner would get fired if the boss found out, so he just randomly put mixed papers in one box until it was full and the remaining papers on the other. So expect some big twist in the kiddy sentai show. |
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| Tbh I don't think people would have any problem IF this show was meant as a parody from the beginning. The change of direction is too sudden, too drastic. Now the show is just contradicting itself from its core. To put it simply, this show doesn't even know its own direction. Now, some people may argue that this whole fiasco is Hazama's delusion or that he has gone insane but if that was the case, it's 12 episodes too long. I don't see the point of watching 18-19 episodes of Hazama's delusion only to be revealed that we've been watching what's inside his mind all along. It's almost as if the director purposely lured potential viewers by starting off with solid storyline (because he knows that if he had started with this shit, the amount of viewers would most likely be extremely low). It's also possible that the TV rating has been so terrible they were forced to do something so drastic to get people talking and watching. Well I'll just say this, if you wanna watch a tokusatsu or super-sentai series, might as well watch the REAL one. At least they're treating themselves seriously unlike this show. |
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| In my opinion people just don't understand the show. The ep 7 twist had the exact effect the show wanted to get. In normal toku/power ranger shows, you get monsters right off the bat. People get scared in those shows but the viewer is unfazed, he already knew what he was getting into and it wasn't a surprise. In Samurai Flamenco, the viewer is convinced he's watching a show about a guy who wants to be hero and his daily struggles to fight "evil" (robbers, people breaking the law, etc.). If you watch it as it airs, that's nearly 2 months watching a normal world, just like yours. If this were like power rangers, it would've been only 10 minutes, and you wouldn't be convinced it were a world just like yours. But over 2 months, you see it as a representation of your world, where monsters don't exist. Then comes the end of episode 7. No one (and I'm talking about the viewers here) believed what they were seeing. How many of you thought it was a dream? Isn't this exactly what people (including the ones from power rangers shows) would go through if suddenly monsters started appearing? To quote someone else, "You know how some people complain about 'Why aren't the authorities talking about these monsters?', 'Why isn't the media all over this?' in toku/power rangers shows, and the usual explanation is 'People don't want to accept things they don't understand, so they act like it isn't there' ? That's exactly what's going on with the viewerbase right now!" . A last note, people also claim this show is just jumping the shark and having stupid twists in a desperate attempt to have more audience. That's not true. If you look at the promo art (which was around before the show aired), you'll see everything up to now was already planned. And wherever it goes from here, it's planned as well. |
| So this is an example of that art form where you think it is something, but it's actually something else and it comes out as a surprise. Basically like a chair you can't sit in. Forgot the name of that art form though. I don't dislike that form of telling a story to be quite honest. MGS2 used it and I loved it there. |
| This show was worth watching because of flamenco girls. I don't like those power rangers in the second cour. |
| I personally really like this show . To answer your question , I think some people really doesnt like super-heroes-fiction after all :P |
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| Thing is, this show is created by Japanese for Japanese. And not only all they know it, but most grew up watching it and some still do. Imagine that it was done in the US for the people in the US and that it used the US super hero tropes. And you know, behind the escalation and the references to several tokusatsu, the show does have a message, You just have to have the cultural background of tokusatsu to get it. |
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