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Apr 14, 10:11 AM
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Don't get me wrong, the visuals look good, and the animation is flashy and smooth when it wants to be, but the plot and writing is beyond average.
The premise is a very standard small heroic group of specialists taking on an impossible task, but even if this is done it usually has a reason for why it has to be a small group of specialists. Here it basically makes no sense, as every person in the world should want to find the guy.

Even if they find a counter to the toxin, how would they even distribute it in less than a month?
Even if countries don't take the threat seriously, shouldn't there be agencies moving around in thousands, if not more? Like the bunker should have been ransacked minutes after the announcement, given how obvious a lead that was.
Nothing in this writing makes any sense. Giving a misfit band of criminals an expensive looking headquarters and gear?

This isn't really a plot hole, more like is there anything but hole in this plot?

Maybe I will watch it for the animation, but the rest makes it hard to enjoy even that.
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Apr 14, 10:22 AM
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THE ANIME HASN'T EVEN ENDED YET! THEY CAN COME UP WITH A STORY IF THEY TRY! IF IT DISSAPOINTS AFTER THE END, TALK SHI AS MUCH AS YOU WANT
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Apr 14, 10:26 AM
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It’s anime… it ain’t that deep.

We are only 2 episodes in so I’m guessing that more people and countries will get involved. As for the average people, by the scenes of talk shows and stuff, it seems like people have just accepted that they will die soon. Also, the raid on the bunker happened within a day or two of the announcement, since most of the people who were there are not from Japan, take into account travel time and stuff.

If you’ve started a movie, you aren’t going to watch the first 20 minutes and stop, saying “There’s so many plot holes” now are you…

With Watanabe’s work, it’s more about the vibe then the plot anyway.
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Apr 14, 10:28 AM
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You're asking questions that would surely be answered as if they would never be.
Apr 14, 10:32 AM
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Brother. The anime just started. Usually the answers relating to the story get answered as the show continues. You should know this if you have watched/read any story previously
Apr 14, 10:40 AM
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Dude I legit hate posts like this and this whole rating system. After one episode everyone rates something 7, but when it's a cliche isekai done 100 times it would get score 8.5

Can't you just wait till end and then form your opinion? >how would they even distribute it in less than a month - I don't know, that's the question every viewer has, you really think they didn't think of that? wtf?

Apr 14, 10:41 AM
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It's too early to draw conclusions, what a rush you fools
Apr 14, 10:48 AM
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Bashing the plot this hard after just two episodes makes you look completely clueless. It’s like you’ve never seen a story unfold in your life. Ever heard of buildup or pacing? Maybe try using your brain before spewing nonsense.
Apr 14, 10:48 AM
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Yes. I agree. You ARE disappointing. I feel bad for your parents.
Apr 14, 10:55 AM
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it's just 2 episodes in dawg, take a chill pill.
Apr 14, 11:14 AM
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Please wait for the other episodes to come out before passing judgement. Hell, just wait for the next one and apply the 3-episode rule, if you’ll find disappointing, just don’t watch it. But it well as may pique your interest of the series.
Apr 14, 11:21 AM
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My fcking god!!! why can't you wait until the end and then start judging?
Apr 14, 11:45 AM
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weebs are so weird, all they do is whine and complain...we are still in the 2nd episode, plus it's an original anime series without source material so we can't judge yet..
Apr 14, 12:49 PM
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Aye, I feel you man. It’s still early and there’s def. A chance for it to get better, so I’ll hold my judgement for now. But I agree that the writing is on the wall for this to not be that good unfortunately.
Apr 14, 12:55 PM

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I am more disappointed in the fact that this thread was started by someone who was born in 1987.
Apr 14, 1:38 PM
i like re zero

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JoeChip said:
I am more disappointed in the fact that this thread was started by someone who was born in 1987.

the bite of 87....
Apr 14, 1:46 PM
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I agree. I was a bit let town from episode 1 only. I had high hopes but yupp, the story is average. the animation is good tho. I guess I'll give this the 4 episode try but I totally agree with u, most of it just comes off as half ass and its not engaging as much as u had hoped.
Apr 14, 2:17 PM
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JoeChip said:
I am more disappointed in the fact that this thread was started by someone who was born in 1987.

Hot damn.

So we have a middle aged moron who doesn’t have the slightest clue on what they’re talking about. Definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, that’s for sure.

That makes this thread even more hilarious.
Apr 14, 2:21 PM

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Beeing disappointed is fine.

I just feel like, for some reason, this Show gets picked apart, where other Anime get a pass when it comes to some of the hyper logical analysis people do, on here.

I think you would enjoy this way more if you'd just suspend your disbelief a bit.
Apr 14, 4:25 PM

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Merve2Love said:
Beeing disappointed is fine.

I just feel like, for some reason, this Show gets picked apart, where other Anime get a pass when it comes to some of the hyper logical analysis people do, on here.

I think you would enjoy this way more if you'd just suspend your disbelief a bit.

To your point of this show being picked apart where other anime get a pass is the expectations put on it because it’s from Shinichirō Watanabe. Which I think is a bit ridiculous to do after only 2 episodes but patience is an ancient concept nowadays 😂
Apr 14, 4:56 PM
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The anime just started you dumb fuck
Apr 14, 6:14 PM
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Maybe wait and see how each episode plays out? If you aren’t vibing with the characters or set up, fine, but it’s kind of hard to judge something when it’s still coming out. At least give it the 3 Episode Test
Apr 14, 6:48 PM

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it hasn't lived up to expectations but this thread is still beyond miserable.
Apr 14, 7:49 PM
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its so sad how much people want to hate on an original anime that isn't just a cookie cutter story

yet yall dickride solo leveling trash
Apr 14, 8:29 PM

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I agree. Can't fix boring and this show has it plastered all over it.


To everyone that says, "Stop being so negative it's only 2 episodes in!" or "All these questions will be answered as the show goes on".... idc... it's boring and Idc to keep watching to find out. VAs sound bored out of their minds too.

Animation is good when it wants to be and the music is great. That's about it, not much to talk about honestly.
Apr 14, 8:36 PM

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Yet, better than GiTS SAC
:v
Apr 14, 8:43 PM
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Your plot hole only exist if you assume they live in the same world we do which they dont the world is futuristic with very advanced technology also your assuming the cure will come in a pill form and wont be the drugs properties being rewritten again such as the initial 3 year period before effects their are many ways this can be done being only two episodes in and being the big problem of the show its ridiculous to say this is a plot hole at this point in the story its just an unsolved problem. This is how you add stakes to the world not a plot hole i fear your comprehension skills are severely lacking.
Apr 14, 8:56 PM
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were only two eps in bro if by the end ur points are still valid imma stand on your side
Apr 15, 8:16 AM
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come on using two eps to judge it is kinda sad give it a chance
Apr 15, 8:48 AM

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The first two episodes have been really bad, if the third doesn't vastly improve, then I don't see a point in continuing when the series is also very short.
Apr 15, 9:45 AM

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its so sad how much people want to hate on an original anime that isn't just a cookie cutter story

yet yall dickride solo leveling trash
@VKDOOM
This comment has me baffled, you think this story isn't cookie cutter?
There are probably as many stories with this premise as there are isekais, but somehow this isn't cookie cutter?
I would like to know where you are coming from?
Apr 15, 10:53 AM

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Yet, better than GiTS SAC
@MichaelJackson Is it though? At least staring at the Major's assets Tachikomas being silly keeps me awake enough to finish the episodes.

I was going to make a joke about some of the Lazarus's characters but they're all so forgettable I don't even remember their names :/
Apr 15, 12:39 PM
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I still don't understand your criticism. 2 episodes isn't enough to understand the full story and characters building. the beginning is promising to me but probably I can come to a conclusion after 6 episodes at least.
Apr 15, 8:56 PM
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@VKDOOM
This comment has me baffled, you think this story isn't cookie cutter?
There are probably as many stories with this premise as there are isekais, but somehow this isn't cookie cutter?
I would like to know where you are coming from?
@zwolf12

how many anime come out per season that is about a mystery angle involving criminals joining together to look for a pharma genius selling a human killing drug?

Now how many anime come out per season that is about some male teenager living in an alternate fantasy world trying to get stronger and get resources (isekai)? How many anime come out per season that is about a school romance between teens? How many anime come out per season that is about teenagers fighting monsters or demons or other people with the sole purpose to get stronger?

Y'all dickride all these shounen/isekai/shoujo ass stories that are always the same fucking thing everytime but wanna call an original anime like Lazarus repetitive when we are lucky to even get 1 or 2 of these kinds of shows a year. Make it make sense.
Apr 17, 6:06 AM

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@zwolf12

how many anime come out per season that is about a mystery angle involving criminals joining together to look for a pharma genius selling a human killing drug?

Now how many anime come out per season that is about some male teenager living in an alternate fantasy world trying to get stronger and get resources (isekai)? How many anime come out per season that is about a school romance between teens? How many anime come out per season that is about teenagers fighting monsters or demons or other people with the sole purpose to get stronger?

Y'all dickride all these shounen/isekai/shoujo ass stories that are always the same fucking thing everytime but wanna call an original anime like Lazarus repetitive when we are lucky to even get 1 or 2 of these kinds of shows a year. Make it make sense.
@VKDOOM
I see where you are coming from, you took the theme as a very narrow theme and limited your view about it to anime, while I was looking at the premise from a broader perspective of a 'band of misfits' genre, which happens to be a very usual premise for a lot of media, not just anime.

But even in anime, the whole band of misfits premise is incredibly common and not what I would describe as 'fresh'.
Apr 17, 9:30 PM
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@VKDOOM
I see where you are coming from, you took the theme as a very narrow theme and limited your view about it to anime, while I was looking at the premise from a broader perspective of a 'band of misfits' genre, which happens to be a very usual premise for a lot of media, not just anime.

But even in anime, the whole band of misfits premise is incredibly common and not what I would describe as 'fresh'.
@zwolf12 I think its very disingenuous to just reduce this story down to a typical "band of misfits" story. You can do that with a lot of original and groundbreaking work in anime and movies if you really wanted to. 2001 a space oddysey can be reduced to a typical AI goes berserk story, Cowboy Bebop can be reduced to a band of misfits story, Neon Genesis Evangelion can be reduced to another wimpy MC mecha story, etc.

Not that I am saying Lazarus is as groundbreaking as those works but I have a huge problem with how people consistently hold original works to such scrutiny. Y'all wanna complain endlessly about how this is derivative of other works yet this site gives the most repetitive and/or boring dogshit like Solo Levelling or Bleach or Demon Slayer high ratings. It's not like this is an anime only complaint either. It's true in every visual artform. Original works like A Cure for Wellness or The Creator flop and get bad reviews with people complaining about how they are derivative yet praise Star Wars Force Awakens which is literally just copying A New Hope or praise a Marvel/DC movie which is the 50th fuckin same story in those franchises.

Yeah, this has familiar elements. A band of cool misfits. Sure. But again, its quite rare you get an anime with this premise. Sure, there have been works in the past that have similarities to this. But I can name literally 20-30 anime a year that are like Solo Leveling or Demon Slayer. I can name like 50 anime a year that are like HoriMiya. I couldn't even name 2 anime this year that are going to be like Lazarus though. So, why is it that we hate on Lazarus for which theres barely anything like it out there but dickride these other anime that are dime a dozen? It's a severe issue with society in general like I said because it extends past anime but I am sick of people constantly complaining about the lack of original works and then when they come out, we all wanna hate on them extra hard.
Apr 18, 1:12 AM

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dude its 2 episodes in



Apr 18, 7:43 AM
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Really bad one, conversations are so stupid, I just get bored of that kind of English, wish Max could have Japanese version…
Apr 20, 9:02 AM
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Graphics, animations, character movements, script - everything is very secondary. One big disappointment.
Rewatch the first episode of Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo, they were made by completely different authors.
Apr 20, 9:03 AM
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so the 3 episodes rule is already applied i say ye its boring so far well at least the hacker girl is waifu
Apr 20, 9:26 AM
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I am more disappointed in the fact that this thread was started by someone who was born in 1987.
@JoeChip but almost exactly one year after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, so the DNA of the gametes of his parents had a rough time around his conception
Apr 20, 9:55 AM

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Agree... nothing special so far, no likeable or interesting characters, just sitting around talking for 80% of the episodes follow by few minutes of nice animation... also the way they found Bilinda in ep3 is the most convenient plot progression I have ever seen... just saying name in front of group of strangers and luckily they knew her... else the story would end right there with them 2 dying.
Apr 20, 10:13 AM
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Dude I legit hate posts like this and this whole rating system. After one episode everyone rates something 7, but when it's a cliche isekai done 100 times it would get score 8.5

Can't you just wait till end and then form your opinion? >how would they even distribute it in less than a month - I don't know, that's the question every viewer has, you really think they didn't think of that? wtf?

veinnnn said:
After one episode everyone rates something 7, but when it's a cliche isekai done 100 times it would get score 8.5


WHAT? ON WHAT PLANET LOL?

MOST generic isekai are immediate 6.0s lol

not that i give a fucking SHIT about score, but this is a hell of alot more interesting than they tend to be


JoeChip said:
I am more disappointed in the fact that this thread was started by someone who was born in 1987.


😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Apr 20, 5:57 PM

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Third episode was even worse than the last two. Without a doubt the biggest disappointment of the season, and it shows that Shinichirou Watanabe is washed.
Apr 20, 10:55 PM

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The anime only aired 3 episodes so far...give it some time
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Apr 20, 11:24 PM
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Most of the Isekai-Narou anime are of higher quality than Lazarus.
This is to be expected as they are anime adaptations of commercially successful original works.
Works like Lazarus would not be as well received as Isekai-Narou if they were released as novels.
Apr 20, 11:53 PM
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The anime only aired 3 episodes so far...give it some time
@Fukoku youre forgetting the 3 episode rule of watching anime
Apr 21, 12:32 AM
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@Fukoku youre forgetting the 3 episode rule of watching anime
@deg yeah, if the anime don't answers your questions about the story after just 3 episodes than you should just drop it...

don't bother, but the 3 episode rule is a subjective thing, not an objective rule.

i will drop sh*t anime after one episode, but i won't accuse it for not answering my every question about the story, because it would be stupid of me...
Apr 21, 12:48 AM
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@deg yeah, if the anime don't answers your questions about the story after just 3 episodes than you should just drop it...

don't bother, but the 3 episode rule is a subjective thing, not an objective rule.

i will drop sh*t anime after one episode, but i won't accuse it for not answering my every question about the story, because it would be stupid of me...
@Yotsuba84 well for sure mysteries on any anime will be answered usually in the last episodes but im talking about overall entertainment if 3 episodes in and you find it boring then you can drop it

the 3 episode rule is a rule of thumb but a good one at that and not an actual rule for sure
Apr 21, 9:03 AM

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deg said:
@Fukoku youre forgetting the 3 episode rule of watching anime

Fair enough lmfao
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