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Jun 15, 2024 4:12 AM
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Im curious which episode made this series score go up i remember watching this in ep14 and the ratings are in 7,40 so i dropped it
Jun 15, 2024 4:29 AM
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Idk, from episode 1 this was very interesting. It has great animation, great production quality, interesting story and characters. Around halfway through the season it got darker and more serious. Also, it's done by Trigger.

Another thing is a lot of people rate most anime after finishing it, including myself. So the rating got even higher since it deserves it.
Jun 15, 2024 4:34 AM
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A gourmet anime that got far more plot focused in the latter half, while staying true to it's gourmet routes, kind of the best of both worlds. And it was a pretty interesting plot IMO, well executed. It's gone up by about 0.3 in score after the last episode aired. IIRC, it was just above 8.0 after episode 15 aired.
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Jun 15, 2024 4:37 AM
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Nothing that would change your mind, if you didn't enjoy the first half. The score blew up because that's what happens with anime that don't have a huge fanbase of the source material or a mindblowing first episode (daily reminder than Ninja Kamui is the original anime series with the highest score ever on MAL after its first episode, and look where it is now), but are carried by good writing, something that becomes more evident in the long run.
Jun 15, 2024 4:57 AM
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You made it to episode 14 then dropped it because of the score? Baa louder for those at the back.
Jun 15, 2024 5:00 AM
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It started at 7.7 and it increases at the episode goes by. Idk where you got that 7.4 score from as episode 14 is around 8+. But the fact you drop it due to the score is crazy
Jun 15, 2024 5:14 AM
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Other than the fact that later half gets better, and you get to know more about the characters and plot. One of the main reason is that most of the people rate anime after the anime ending, even the people who rate the anime while airing adjust their rating.

The initial rating of the anime was too low compared to the manga. The rating right now is more closer to the manga.
Jun 15, 2024 5:26 AM
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PermanentHaki said:
Im curious which episode made this series score go up i remember watching this in ep14 and the ratings are in 7,40 so i dropped it

bro the lowest rating score for this anime after 2nd episode was 7.70 and it never went down
Jun 15, 2024 6:00 AM
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It has been peak from the start
Jun 15, 2024 6:45 AM
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People that have reasonable taste finally put their rating(which I mean people who watch more episode before deciding their rating)

So I already expected this boost especially since its now completed, the consistency throughout the whole show is outstanding.
Jun 15, 2024 7:02 AM

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i've been watching since the start and to me this has been fluctuating between a 7 and 8, but never a solid 9
Jun 15, 2024 7:03 AM

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dropping a show because the score is to low is wild. why even watch something if you dont watch it for yourself?
Jun 15, 2024 7:15 AM
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It’s normal not to rate things until they are over…
Jun 15, 2024 9:07 AM
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The score went gradually up every week, but it increased a lot after episodes 11, 12, and 17 specifically.
Jun 15, 2024 10:15 AM
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PermanentHaki said:
Im curious which episode made this series score go up i remember watching this in ep14 and the ratings are in 7,40 so i dropped it

normally people score after completing an anime!
Jun 15, 2024 10:15 AM

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err i do not remember episode 14 being that low score
Jun 15, 2024 10:16 AM

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When a show is finished MAL it only counts ratings from people who have watched a certain amount (idr the exact amount, I think it’s 1/4), so anyone who watched less than that and rated it doesn’t count to the overall score causing most shows to rise in rating when it finishes
Jun 15, 2024 2:16 PM
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Genuinely what are you talking about?
Jun 15, 2024 2:50 PM

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MusashiKarlsefni said:
Genuinely what are you talking about?

Basically what he is trying to say, is that he drops anime based on score.
Jun 15, 2024 2:54 PM

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Yeah DM score raised a lot in the last weeks. It was surprising tbh

Jun 15, 2024 3:33 PM

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"Hows this blow up?"

My guesses:
1. A lot of people hold on giving their score till the end.
2. A lot of people hold on watching a seasonal show, than binge watch the whole thing in the last weeks of the season.
Jun 15, 2024 4:16 PM

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alshu said:
"Hows this blow up?"

My guesses:
1. A lot of people hold on giving their score till the end.
2. A lot of people hold on watching a seasonal show, than binge watch the whole thing in the last weeks of the season.

3. It helps that the anime is actually consistently great and gets even better later on.
Jun 15, 2024 5:17 PM

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GTRaijin said:
It helps that the anime is actually consistently great and gets even better later on.

Knowing what kind of trash gets relatively high scores on MAL this is besides the point.
Quality is usually not appreciated here. For example the highest Natsume is in 75-th place and another example is Uchouten Kazoku 2 being 528-th.

My impression is people generally speaking liked Dungeon Meshi. Not sure why, definitely not because it's objectively a well produced show, they don't cared about such things. It appealed to them for some reason...maybe because of the dark humour, maybe because it's quite nerdy or maybe because people a craving for non-isekai fantasy.

Still with a score of 8.55 it's definitely not a crowd pleaser.
alshuJun 25, 2024 7:19 AM
Jun 15, 2024 5:23 PM
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it finished. Afaik MAL doesn't count reviews that didn't finish the show. The people who didn't like it and stopped watching had their reviews removed from the count (rightly so).
Jun 15, 2024 5:29 PM
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A VERY big number of LGBTQ people on Twitter latched onto it. Because Marcille and Falin are very close and loving friends and because Laios is socially awkward and weird about monsters.
Jun 15, 2024 6:35 PM
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imagine dropping a show because of what randoms on the internet say
Jun 16, 2024 12:17 AM

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The score started going up somewhat faster after the red dragon arc started and yeah the show did get a bit better from that point onward.
Jun 16, 2024 2:54 AM

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Idk what you are talking about, the score went up, but it started from 7.7, it was never a 7.4.

And about why it went up, honestly, it just kept getting better and better as it went on. And from the half way point, it started to have quite a few more serious moments, that after us getting attached to these characters during the goofier first half, gained a LOT of impact.

Plus, to the average person, it's not easy to understand good writing without the show going on for a while.
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Jun 16, 2024 9:48 AM
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It became 8,0 from episode 17 +/-. But it really blew up when it ended, not because the last episode was good, but because people who watched the second half finnaly voted, including me
Jun 18, 2024 3:48 PM
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This series was goofy as fuck at first and I mainly watched it because it was available at Netflix and 20 min once a week wasn't too demanding.
Suddenly around episode 14 it became semi-serious with better animation but still kept the goofy stuff.
In the end I kind of enjoyed it although it isn't the style of shows I regularly watched.
Definitely over-ranked here, but solid 7.
Jun 21, 2024 5:24 AM
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Scores aside, I felt similar: I tried to enjoy the Anime, but it somehow felt extremely generic. So, that girl was eaten by a dragon, and is supposed to be the male adventurer's sister. But the reactions of the group were generic, unambitious and fake as possible. There was no real will. It was like they would suddenly remember 'oh yes, that's how we were raised, how society taught us. We have to go and rescue her, even if we don't feel like it.'

The next thing supporting what I previously said: The anime shifts to be about food. All worries about the girl eaten by a dragon seems to have vaniashed. And now the male adventurer tries to reach his dream-goal: To become a Monster Cook.

And still in the very first episode, they meet a Cook who specialized for 10 years in Monster cooking. That basically completely destroy the struggle they usually should have to go through, via Trial and Error, to create eatable dishes and to get perfect recipes. - but instead, now they have a cook who already knows everything perfectly.

This feels like a generic, visualized recipe/cook show to me. But literally, like in TV, where a dish is presented and then the watching people are guided step by step how to cook.

Ngl, the premise itself felt interesting, but the execution feels generic as possible, making it really boring for me. The Dialogues seem to exist, solely for the sake of having dialogues implemented. It feels like the characters don't really have proper personalities but are generic Dummies/Ragdolls.

But to be fair: I only watched the first 2 episodes, but they unfortunately felt boring because of what I told here already. Is the Anime going to get better, especially with personality, generic feeling, and struggles with cooking?
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Jun 21, 2024 11:20 AM
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Scores aside, I felt similar: I tried to enjoy the Anime, but it somehow felt extremely generic. So, that girl was eaten by a dragon, and is supposed to be the male adventurer's sister. But the reactions of the group were generic, unambitious and fake as possible. There was no real will. It was like they would suddenly remember 'oh yes, that's how we were raised, how society taught us. We have to go and rescue her, even if we don't feel like it.'

The next thing supporting what I previously said: The anime shifts to be about food. All worries about the girl eaten by a dragon seems to have vaniashed. And now the male adventurer tries to reach his dream-goal: To become a Monster Cook.

And still in the very first episode, they meet a Cook who specialized for 10 years in Monster cooking. That basically completely destroy the struggle they usually should have to go through, via Trial and Error, to create eatable dishes and to get perfect recipes. - but instead, now they have a cook who already knows everything perfectly.

This feels like a generic, visualized recipe/cook show to me. But literally, like in TV, where a dish is presented and then the watching people are guided step by step how to cook.

Ngl, the premise itself felt interesting, but the execution feels generic as possible, making it really boring for me. The Dialogues seem to exist, solely for the sake of having dialogues implemented. It feels like the characters don't really have proper personalities but are generic Dummies/Ragdolls.

But to be fair: I only watched the first 2 episodes, but they unfortunately felt boring because of what I told here already. Is the Anime going to get better, especially with personality, generic feeling, and struggles with cooking?
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Is the Anime going to get better, especially with personality, generic feeling, and struggles with cooking?


The personalities of the characters and their relationships with each other are developed as the show progresses, so I would assume they would feel less generic to you if you continued watching.

There will also be times when the party comes across a monster Senshi has not cooked before, but struggles regarding creating a perfect recipe or trial and error when preparing food is never the focus of the show or the primary conflict in any episode.
Jun 21, 2024 11:39 AM
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some1uused2know said:
Is the Anime going to get better, especially with personality, generic feeling, and struggles with cooking?


The personalities of the characters and their relationships with each other are developed as the show progresses, so I would assume they would feel less generic to you if you continued watching.

There will also be times when the party comes across a monster Senshi has not cooked before, but struggles regarding creating a perfect recipe or trial and error when preparing food is never the focus of the show or the primary conflict in any episode.
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Thanks for the info. Good to know that the personalities and relationships are going to get better. Guess I can give it another chance then and watch an episode once in a while.
Jun 25, 2024 7:12 AM
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It helps that the anime is actually consistently great and gets even better later on.

Knowing what kind of trash gets relatively high scores on MAL this is besides the point.
Quality is usually not appreciated here. For example the highest Natsume is in 75-th place and another example is Uchouten Kazoku 2 being 528-th.

My impression is people generally speaking liked Dungeon Meshi. Not sure why, definitely not because it's objectively a well produced show, they don't cared about such things. It appealed to them for some reason...maybe because of the dark humour, maybe because it's quite nerdy or maybe because people a craving for non-isekai fantasy.

Still with a score of 8.55 it's definitely not a crowd pleaser.
the highest Natsume is in 75-th place and another example is Uchouten Kazoku 2 being 528-th


Both are actually scored highly on MAL all things considered.

alshu said:
Not sure why, definitely not because it's objectify a well produced show, they don't cared about such things.


Indeed, MAL has certain very noticeable biases -- besides the fact that one should straight up ignore all scores on long-run series, and perhaps all sequels. And they include:

* strong favor towards self-insert isekai

* strong favor towards tear jerker (and the more contrived the better)

* strong dislike against mecha

and yes, among other things, production quality is relatively overshadowed by likeability of characters and story. But I don't think it is a unappreciated ingredient like world building or plot consistency. To the contrary, MAL scores correlate well with production quality. It's not common to have a 8-score anime to be of higher production quality than 9, etc.

In the case of Dungeon Meshi, the production quality is high but the frames are not made to look flashy. No eye-catching light sources on every frame. And a lot of work goes into audio production. So I think those qualities are not something an average viewer is likely to take notice.

It's like fast food vs some michelin star classic. Both can be good. Both can be appreciated by the masses when given the opportunity. The latter is definitely higher quality but any unique quality is not going to be easily picked up quickly.

Still with a score of 8.55 it's definitely not a crowd pleaser.


The low score relative to its writing, and production quality (both visual and autio) probably share some reasons why no comedy ever wins Oscar and no sit comm is ever considered among the greatest TV series.

Humor varies a lot from person to person. If you don't appreciate the humor of a comedy, it becomes difficult to appreciate its other strengths.

And that's a shame. Compared to, say, war and politics, it's a lot easier to have a high quality piece centered around humor. We've had a lot more comedy masterpieces out of a smaller pool than many if not most other genres in the history of anime, where some overt shortcomings dominate in one way or another.
ArgyllJun 25, 2024 7:21 AM

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