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Oct 7, 2009 9:24 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Seriously, these last episodes have been too good, this one doesn't fall behind. So Quamzin is going to be the final boss uh?
Oct 9, 2009 4:43 PM
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Claudia must be the only anime character I've seen to drink whisky/bourbon straight. My kinda woman.

Pleeease dont let half the cast die in the next episode, I hate shows that do that.
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Oct 23, 2009 6:33 AM
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i really hope that hikaru and minmay die next episode.
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Mar 8, 2010 12:46 AM
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ferruiz34 said:
i really hope that hikaru and minmay die next episode.

I would love that.

They sure love messing with Misa. The life span for the people is very short, I wouldn't want to live there. Hikaru and Minmay are together thats surprising, hurray! not really.
My prediction for the next episode
-The war is not going to end.
- Hikaru and Minmay get married
-Misa meets Kaifu.
Jun 15, 2010 5:35 AM
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TuzoAnime said:

-Misa meets Kaifu.


I protest! Misa deserves much more than Kaifun. And much more than baka Hikaru, too.
Apr 19, 2011 10:07 PM
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I hope they just go with a simple ending with Hikaru and Minmei
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May 20, 2011 6:45 PM
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So it's still Hikaru and Minmay after all? I wonder what Minmay said to him before he left going to his base.

Okay episode 36 here I come...
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Jun 23, 2011 6:13 PM
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This show loves to just piss me off. Minmay is so annoying, not even because she gets in the way of Hayase. She's just like a spoiled little child.
Jun 27, 2011 11:52 PM
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This show loves to just piss me off. Minmay is so annoying, not even because she gets in the way of Hayase. She's just like a spoiled little child.


Yep, yep. And having the excellent character that is Hayase around totally makes her look bad. Seriously, why the fuck is Minmay the character considered to be an "icon"?.
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Nov 28, 2011 8:37 PM

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insan3soldiern said:
burntlettuce said:
This show loves to just piss me off. Minmay is so annoying, not even because she gets in the way of Hayase. She's just like a spoiled little child.


Yep, yep. And having the excellent character that is Hayase around totally makes her look bad. Seriously, why the fuck is Minmay the character considered to be an "icon"?.


Im assuming its because the idol has to be a retard in this case, plus I don't think Hayase would fit as the idol of macross to be honest.
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Jun 17, 2012 3:23 AM
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Did anyone notice that the bar tender poured Claudia her drink before she even ordered it?
Aug 24, 2012 8:45 AM

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She's clearly a regular. Man, this show is just full of broken hearts! By now, I don't even care that it's not my preferred pairing, I'm just glad that there's at least two main characters who can be happy.
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Nov 9, 2012 1:12 PM
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I had forgotten how sad this episode was. I loved how they lit up the Macross with christmas lights with Silent Night in the background. Beautiful scene.
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Feb 7, 2013 6:37 PM
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Oh no. The pineapples are back, and the last episode is next.
May 26, 2013 5:01 AM

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Pinapples of doom?

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Im assuming its because the idol has to be a retard in this case, plus I don't think Hayase would fit as the idol of macross to be honest.


Idol - no. Icon - yes. Like Focker for some, a memorable character that makes the show distinct. And for me it is Misa - her story and character, while Hikaru is someone to identify with for younger (male) audience.
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Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
Sep 12, 2013 12:48 AM

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Man they really rub it in Hayase's face, it's like these episodes haven been made to aggravate her
Jan 17, 2014 6:52 AM

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burntlettuce said:
This show loves to just piss me off. Minmay is so annoying, not even because she gets in the way of Hayase. She's just like a spoiled little child.


Wait what, are you serious? Misa endangered innocent lives just because of her idiotic jealousy in this very episode.
Apr 11, 2014 6:28 PM

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I think the "Leave the military" expectation Minmay has is a real dealbreaker, so I'm not quite as worried as I was--even though they caused Hayase pain again. Damn, Hikaru! You really can be an insensitive prick most of the time.

It was nice to see the bridge babes together with the Zentradi spies again for Christmas Eve. At least some people's relationships seem to be going smoothly.
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Aug 25, 2014 9:23 PM
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I liked minmay up until after her and Hikaru were stranded. She told him to join the military and never even put a thought on his well being. Where as in this episode it was the time she was actually worried about him. Rather pissed me off since i liked her in the beginning. I still dont hate her like most people here. Hayase was definitely my choice after awhile. The only character i would want to die would of been Kaifu. Granted Hikaru did pull a super douche move last episode with his date with Hayase which i hate but oh well.

That's right. That idol prick thinks only of herself; first she asked Hikaru to join the army to make him leave her free now she wants him back. That idiot Hikaru is acting just like a royal dog to Minmay; but acts like dummy wall aganist Misa's feelings for him.
I think the best place for Misa to reach happiness is being a sister in church, or let her join to Max's family and become his second wife or something. I am sure Milia won't make scene.
Yeah i would love to see a harem ending goes for Max or even Captan Global can be more fitting for Misa.
Hikaru, Minmay or Kaifu please die(SHİNE!!!). I swear that even the sorrowful ending of "Basilisk" feels better compared to these idiotic love scene...
On the other hand drawings and voicing get really better this time.
May 19, 2015 6:11 PM

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I thought Hikaru was gonna die when I saw that pineapple drop. It would've been cool if they continued using it as a foreshadowing for death how it was with Focker. I guess a bunch of people died so maybe it still was. Macross characters really don't dwell on anything other than relationships, do they? This episode was better than the last few. I still don't understand why Kamujin is living on earth being a nuisance to society like some rogue military otaku. As far as I remember there are still plenty of Zentradi, but maybe I'm forgetting something about that big battle. Maybe since he's somewhat "cultured" they won't interact with him. Really I'm just trying to rationalize him as a shitty, non-threatening, forced plot device. The episode was still quite enjoyable. The bar scene didn't seem to be there for any real plot reason and it was never revealed whether or not Claudia talked to Misa but it was cool to see that line about not having drunk Focker's share to really illustrate Claudia's mentality.
Oct 28, 2015 10:31 PM

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i am fucking done.... what the fuck were they thinking with this

ferruiz34 said:
i really hope that hikaru and minmay die next episode.


my thought exactly
Feb 14, 2016 1:05 PM

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Personally, I don't hate or like minmay, I just never care for her as a character in the series. I pretty much skipped all her scenes in the episode. Worth it!

The new arc feel like gundam seed destiny where most of the main characters regress or lost a lot of their likable qualities . I mean even Hayase whom normally a very mature and rational character for much of the first 27 episodes was immature and incompetent at her job because she let her jealousy interfere with her duties.
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I agree Hayase also regresses in this final arc. That said, she regresses a bit less than Hikaru (fuck him) and Minmay... and of course, thing is... in the end, Misa has constantly been the victim every single episode post-27. It's almost as if Hikaru was actually doing everything on purpose just to hurt Misa, because it's just too much.

Kaifun is a jerk (though at least he didn't regress... he's been a jerk always), Hikaru is an asshole and Minmay is a spoiled child who's dumber than a bag of hammers.

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Apr 27, 2016 3:25 AM

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Took another long hiatus from the show. Previous episodes just really put me off and it snowballed into like 6-7 month break?

The characters definitely did take a drop in quality, noticed that like 3 episodes after episode 27. They just lose what made them strong or likeable, their character growth, in order to prolong the series.

It's as if all the stuff that happened at episode 27 never happened. They just forgot who they were and what they were doing it for.

Still holding out hope that Misa still ends up with Hikaru. There's just no way that they could just write off Misa like that with like almost no resistance or real drama.
Nov 21, 2016 9:30 PM
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The love triangle is getting a little bit ridiculous, it's like they didn't know where to go with the plot after episode 27.
Jul 11, 2017 7:12 AM

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The meta product placement was top notch haha. All the Christmas imagery was nice, and I can only hope this means the end of the incessant love triangle. Time to move on to the finale!
Aug 17, 2017 12:25 PM

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In the end, Minmei realized many things, like what being in the military really means. Nice to see those changes displayed or spelled out in this episode. The thing that really annoys me is Hikaru's reaction: despite the relationships reset after the pseudo-finale, he had clearly chosen Hayase again. And now, instead of saying he truth to Minmei, he... gives him false hopes.

Kaifun as a threat doesn't work really well.

5/5 Beautiful episode inseveral ways: good drawings, sounds and part of the content.


Minmay is so annoying. She's just like a spoiled little child.

I wonder if others have seen the same number of episodes as I did...
That idol prick thinks only of herself; first she asked Hikaru to join the army to make him leave her free now she wants him back.

OK, now I'm sure. I watched a totally different show. XD
@CodeBlazeFate Fuu, only one last episode to go. In the end, most of those bonus episodes were bad, but the worst aspect of them was the reactions here.


@St0rmblade You're familiar to this lost part of the internet now, you should'nt even be surprised anymore. ;) (nice to feel less alone on this, I knew I wasn't imagining things just because I'm a "Minmei girl".)
Have a good time with the second finale... and the film + Flashback. (watch the right version by the way: the first "HD" release got some cuts)
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This was even more heartbreaking to watch.
Although Minmei has definitely changed to a better side, more mature and adultlike.
Nov 27, 2017 12:03 AM

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One more tedious episode to go. Can't wait for this retarded soap opera to end.
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ferruiz34 said:
i really hope that hikaru and minmay die next episode.


my thought exactly

Bonus points if we also get a shot of Kaifu lying dead somewhere in a desert. That would warm the cockles of heart.
Jan 20, 2018 11:31 AM

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Minmay saying she wants Hikaru to leave the military leaves me with the feeling that either Minmay's going to die despite being a civilian, or that Hikaru's going to agree to quit, but then end up getting killed during his last battle. I just can't see that line resulting in a happy ending for both of them

Only one ep to go, maybe this series will somehow manage to end on a high note, but man did this last arc ruin Minmay's, Hikaru's, and Misa's characterization. They're all (Misa to a slightly lesser degree) really unlikable in their current states
Oct 25, 2018 11:55 PM

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I can't tell who has it worse: Claudia who can't be with Roy since he's gone, or Hayase since she has no chance against Minmay.

Oh, and Minmay telling Hikaru to quit the military after telling him to join all the way in the beginning of the show. I know feelings, sentiments, and situations change, but still, bleh.
Mar 26, 2019 9:39 PM

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I liked the whole Silent Night montage at the end very nicely done.
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Mar 7, 2020 1:27 PM

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I liked this episode, besides the dumb door being open for some reason. Christmas scene at the end was great. It's also nice to see Minmay's grew in some ways..
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"Please leave the military", ironic considering she pushed him into it to begin with.

I also remember laughing at the most unenthusiastic santa ever last episode or if it was early on in this one, well this explains why.. With him planting bombs in all the toys.

Honestly this show has become a joke at this point, all the relationship drama and flip flopping has made me stop caring, I still want Hayase to be happy in the end but this is just annoying at this point. I'm looking forward to be done with it next episode, it should have ended after ep 27.
Jul 15, 2020 10:03 AM

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Misaaaa ;_;

Minmay surely is changing, isn't she? Oh wait, this thread suggests otherwise. It's almost as if there's no character development whatsoever throughout the show. Really, is it so difficult to root for Misa and simultaneously understand Minmay's character and her actions? I mean, she did mature.

That dropped pineapple is worrying.

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@Rei_III Is it a comment about the movie or the 30-minute OVA? Anyway, I guess wikipedia lists the correct duration for both, I'll just make sure to check that before watching.
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@St0rmblade Film, my bad I didn't realize how unclear it was. The 3 cuts amount to seconds of material (1h55 instead of 1h55mn55 secs or something).
The 2016 release is complete, the 2012 one is where they removed the "violent" pictures.
Nov 3, 2020 5:47 PM

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Still, only pain, nothing else. Imma blast some Kendrick Lamar and watch some vtubers while I pretend I'm drunk after finishing this, only one more to go, almost there.
Jan 28, 2021 12:22 PM

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I'm glad that Hikaru and Minmay were able to get back together! Throughout this episode I was getting the feeling that Minmay was maturing while Hayase was experiencing the oppose, particularly she didn't call Hikaru to sortie after eavesdropping on his conversation with Minmay. Hope the show doesn't end up making an antagonist out of Hayase in the final episode, as I really like her as a character.
Apr 16, 2022 10:18 AM
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really didnt expect writing team to create another conflict between zentradi and humanity and try to solve it in just 3 episodes
Dec 10, 2022 3:47 AM

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garbage episode ,truly one of the worst romance
Mar 23, 2023 5:34 AM
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"I think he's in bed with something."

holy cow Misa has zero chill 🤣
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Jul 3, 2023 1:55 AM

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THIS BITCH?????



Aqrif_nazman said:
really didnt expect writing team to create another conflict between zentradi and humanity and try to solve it in just 3 episodes

Me neither. Dude just won't die!

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"Please leave the military", ironic considering she pushed him into it to begin with.

I also remember laughing at the most unenthusiastic santa ever last episode or if it was early on in this one, well this explains why.. With him planting bombs in all the toys.

Honestly this show has become a joke at this point, all the relationship drama and flip flopping has made me stop caring, I still want Hayase to be happy in the end but this is just annoying at this point. I'm looking forward to be done with it next episode, it should have ended after ep 27.


Right? She was the insensitive bitch who told him to join the military and now she's the insensitive bitch who tells him to quit the military! She friend-zoned him the entire anime and only started giving a shit after he left her before episode 27 battle and then after seeing him with another girl!

MINMAY IS BAD NEWS!!! RUN HIKARU YOU FUCKING DUNCE!!! GO TO HAYASE AND BE HAPPY!!! DUMP THAT TOXIC GARBAGE AWAY!!!
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The love triangle is killing me, just 1 episode left
Aug 29, 10:30 AM
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Did anyone notice that the bar tender poured Claudia her drink before she even ordered it?
@Megalosaro yeah, I laughed at it; an then the bartender picks the bourbon for another drink lol

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