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| Akashi sugoii!! Another Overpowered guy has shown his power !! I think we get to see Kagami in Zone Lvl 2 or deepest zone mode in the next chapters. |
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| so kagami needs to open the second door to beat akashi..this gonna be good! |
KerozinnMay 14, 2014 6:37 AM
| Wow! This Particular Chapter Made Me Think That Even Though Kagami Had Opened The 2nd Door, There Did Be The 3rd and The 4th After Reading This Chapter, It Really Does Made Me Anticipate What's Gonna Happen When Kagami Broke That Door. If The Silhouette Is What Imayoshi Said, Then Could It Be Akashi Blocker Is His Other Personality. About Kagami's Silhouette, Still No Idea... And, Thanks Again Fujimaki Tadatoshi for Planting Hopes.... |
| So another door? Sounds like a huge ass-pull to me. But if it is well executed, I won't complain. Reminds me of Prince of Tennis with the three doors of Muga no Kyochi (State of Self Actualization). |
| LOOOOL so Kagami is gonna go Super Saiyan 2 before the end of this. Fantastic. But as another poster above mentioned, I loved Prince of Tennis and that was more ridiculous than this, so I'll put up with whatever gets thrown at me. |
| Zone itself and all the GoM/Kuroko's powers were always pretty "ridiculous" so I'm just going to accept everything the mangaka puts out. So I can't wait to see Super Saiya- Zone 2. Wonder if Akashi 2nd ability is just a red herring or going to be shown in this match? This is the last quarter. |
| Kagami's got to open that second door to get even deeper in the the Zone. Pretty sure he's gonna do it. |
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| Lol there's that Super Zone a lot of us called on. Still Akashi owning them was priceless lol. |
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| This is going prince of dragonball route I'm ok with it, as long kagami crushes that ego midget. |
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| Hahaha. There is a level 2 of the Zone. Oh well, I am not surprised anymore. |
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| To fight fire with fire, but I think Kagami does need to step a bit beyond that. A level 2 of the Zone huh? I wonder how he unlocks it. Well whatever he needs to do, he better do it fast in the next round or it really will be absolute defeat courtesy of Akashi. |
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| The best thing for this manga is Seiren losing, but I want them to win so bad. How? Who? doesn't matter. Kuroko merging with Kagami to create Michael Jordan and win this eshhh. |
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| A Zone within a Zone. It would be funny if it was Kuroko guarding the door. Wouldn't make much sense though. |
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| A zone with a zone huh. lol. Ah well whatever, hope this is pulled off well. |
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SandyBoi said: A zone with a zone huh. Zoneception |
| If they can execute this well, I'll probably be fine with it. I wonder who's guarding that door, and how you're supposed to get passed him.. |
| The shadow gatekeeper is kuroko right. I mean kuroko says he will be kagami's shadow. It is only logical that kagami has to beat kuroko. Must be true. How many doors does it take for it to be just like dbz? |
RightToLeft said: The shadow gatekeeper is kuroko right. I mean kuroko says he will be kagami's shadow. It is only logical that kagami has to beat kuroko. Must be true. How many doors does it take for it to be just like dbz? There would need to be a door that makes Kagami's hair grow down to his ass. |
| This just keeps getting more ridiculous by the chapter -_- It'll probably take Kagami ten chapters to reach super zone at the rate this is going... |
| Btw, I don't get why people are calling KnB supernatural all of a sudden. The 2 doors, lake, man behind the m̶i̶r̶r̶o̶r̶ door -- these are all fancy metaphors used by Aomine who has a bad habit of using figurative language. Someone even made a Tumblr post about this: http://sicariorum.tumblr.com/post/68163193597/aomine-daikis-seven-worst-uses-of-figurative-language Aomine even understood his own penchant for using confusing analogies. He told Imayoshi on page 16 that he needed to use his own imagination to understand what he said. The only thing we need to infer from Aomine's explanation is that that are depths to the zone. Just imagine that when Kagami first went into the zone, he was only 60% deep. Now he is 80% deep and he needs to get to 100% to beat Akashi. If you want to complain about supernatural aspects, you should have done it when the zone was first introduced. In real life the zone is supposed to make you concentrate better, react faster, make fewer mistakes etc. In short, it's supposed to boost only mental abilities. For instance, the zone doesn't make you jump higher, it makes you time your jumps better. KnB took it a step further and made the zone a physical attribute-boosting phenomenon. That was the unrealistic aspect of the zone as depicted by Fujimaki. Just showing that people can get deeper into the zone at different times is no biggie after that. Think about it: a baller who typically averages 30 ppg can get in the zone and score 60 points but he can also get deeper and score 80. Of course, there could be many external reasons why he was able to score 80, but my point is that getting deeper into the zone is hardly unrealistic in itself. |
| lol this so reminds me of fma. Now imagine Kagami starts talking to that imaginary person known as "truth" or in this manga's case perhaps "potential" might be a better name Torrible said: Btw, I don't get why people are calling KnB supernatural all of a sudden. I don't think people are calling it supernatural lol. Most of the comments are just pointing out what a major ass-pull and poor story telling technique the author is using. I mean sure the zone itself is pretty much of an ass-pull by itself but there are certain limits to using such an ass-pull. It pretty much reaches ridiculous when you create a zone 2 out of nowhere after 200+ chapters because you can't envision a way to beat the overpowered boss character you as an author created. And yea there I said it. It's ridiculous and bad story telling. |
halberdiersMay 15, 2014 8:47 PM
natsucule said: The best thing for this manga is Seiren losing, but I want them to win so bad. How? Who? doesn't matter. Kuroko merging with Kagami to create Michael Jordan and win this eshhh. Haha, this comment is so win! XD It'll be interesting to see how this second zone is pulled off. Regardless, this chapter did pull in a lot of attention. How Fujimaki executes this now is sort of like a do-or-die situation for him, just like the situation Seirin is in. XD Damn though Akashi... ._. That was pretty damn badass! O.O |
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| I think Kuroko no Basket is going to end, don't see how they can create even more skills after this |
ClawViper7 said: I think Kuroko no Basket is going to end, don't see how they can create even more skills after this Well Fujimaki can still go the Bleach route - reset all skills :D , just kidding But really I think this final arc (or at least final match) has suffered with one thing mostly typical for long running action mangas and that is power-ups. But I still hope that author won't write himself to bigger corner that he already is, an I hope for decent ending, because this quite entertaining manga deserves it. |
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| Zone 2? Super Ass-pull. Let's see how this goes, though it's not like they could do anything else since emperor eye can foresee the exact moment when you have to take a dump. Not that I'm mad though. I would like to see Kagami growing his hair and losing his eyebrows, and actually, it would be nice seeing Akashi crying in a corner after they lose the game. kronos7 said: SandyBoi said: A zone with a zone huh. Zoneception Yo dawg! |
| Kagami needs to enter the deep deep zone but Akashi will then enter the deep deep deep zone so Kagami needs to go ever deeper. Zone logic! |
| hmm.. Kagami Zone Lvl 2 vs. Akashi'S 2nd ability clash.. Then Kuroko will probably go enter to zone and Akashi will not be able to handle both zoned Kuroko & deep zoned Kagami.. And that's how seirin will win.. |
| I thinks this and the previous chapter have been lame. Akashi didn't need to get in the Zone. In my opinion, it would have been cooler if Akashi was a threat using his own unique techniques and strategy like Midorima or Kise. That way, Kagami wouldn't need to go Super Zone 2 to be a match. I wish the author was messing with our heads and Kagami doesn't make it to Zone 2.0 and Seirin actually beats Akashi with actual teamwork (instead of just Kagami dunking thinking it is all thanks to his friends) to answer Akashi's hubris. I highly doubt this is going to happen, but there's a chance. So, calls on the gatekeeper's identity? I think it's obviously not themselves, but I wouldn't want it to be Kuroko. Maybe Kagami's teammates? As uncool as that may sound, it would make sense with the solo play vs. teamwork theme. |
| lol, they're really dragging it on. You have to be in the zone to defeat Akashi, who's 1 meter and a strawberry in terms of height but can dunk, and if he gets in the zone, you have to be in the zone within the zone, after that in the zone within the zone that's within the original zone...and after that, ZONE ORIGIN so much zoneception. Please, just show us the last damn minutes and how Seirin turns it around, and end it. xd |
| This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream. -Claire Stanfield, Baccano! |
| Commence the Zone asspull. |
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halberdiers said: lol this so reminds me of fma. Now imagine Kagami starts talking to that imaginary person known as "truth" or in this manga's case perhaps "potential" might be a better name Torrible said: Btw, I don't get why people are calling KnB supernatural all of a sudden. I don't think people are calling it supernatural lol. Most of the comments are just pointing out what a major ass-pull and poor story telling technique the author is using. I mean sure the zone itself is pretty much of an ass-pull by itself but there are certain limits to using such an ass-pull. It pretty much reaches ridiculous when you create a zone 2 out of nowhere after 200+ chapters because you can't envision a way to beat the overpowered boss character you as an author created. And yea there I said it. It's ridiculous and bad story telling. When I read comments like "bad story telling" or "deux ex machina" or "asspull", all I sense is special pleading. You want the match proceedings to proceed in a way you deem proper but in real life sports, the match proceedings never follow a script. http://dimemag.com/2013/03/we-reminisce-tracy-mcgrady-13-points-in-35-seconds/ It was 2004. With less than a minute remaining, the score was 74-64 in favor of the Spurs. The majority of fans had already headed for the parking lot, because let’s admit it, the game was over. A team coached by Popovich and spearheaded by three future Hall of Famers was not going to relinquish this lead. It just wasn’t going to happen.The Rockets were shooting just 31 percent on the game leading up to this point. They had only hit one three-pointer in ten attempts. But Tracy Mcgrady went deep into the zone and scored 13 points in 35 seconds to win the game for the Rockets. You are going to call asspull on a real life match? What about going deeper in the zone? http://blog.lakers.com/lakers/2014/01/22/re-examining-kobes-81-point-game/ When Kobe Bryant played the Raptors in 2006, he was having an extraordinary 1st half. He was on course to score an amazing 60 points. He was in the zone. But then guess what, he got even better in the 2nd half and ended up with 81 points. Deeper. In. The. Zone. People like to call foul when basketball in KnB deviates from realism but yet they want the match to follow a path that they can accept. We want lots of drama. But no 'asspulls' please. No sudden collapse of the opposition team, thank you very much. We want no sudden powerups of the protagonists. Even though these things can happen in a real match. I do understand why sudden powerups or sudden nerfings (like what happened to Muasakibara) can bother us so much. That's because in a sports manga, nothing is ever random. In real life, the match proceedings are completely random and unscripted. But in a sports manga, every event is scripted by the author. That is why we find it hard to accept these unlikely events. But in real life, that the unlikely can happen is why basketball is so thrilling. KnB fans need to stop reading and analyzing the manga through "storytelling" lens and treat it as if it was unscripted and real. You'd enjoy it all the more. |
| Its not understandable, good or anything like this. Its pure bad. There are examples where the matches are actually interesting, good, exciting etc. without this kind of bullshit. You say I have to read it another way to be enjoyable. Thats when things are bad. And Fujimaki didnt say deeper in the zone, its Zone lvl 2. He said it, through Aomine. Ha dont have any good idea, so just goes with this shit. Either way, after the final's end I drop this shit. Because its shit. The final should be the end, but I see they will milk the series for few more hundred chapter.... |
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| Akashi is pretty badass not gonna lie. Kagami has to go to the zone within a zone... Zoneception? |
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| Arf... being like one of the GoM is already something HUGE , the zone is the OP SHIT and now we've got a 2nd zone..Well I find this a little too easy to do to beat akashi... it's just no-sense, how to beat someone = just using something even more OP that he used to.. sounds meehh to me tbh.. :/ |
| So Akashi is stronger than Aomine? |
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| Deeper in the Zone!? Is it really necessary? Oh, gosh... I mean.. maybe it would be better if another character entered in the Zone, rather than existing Zone 2.0 kronos7 said: SandyBoi said: A zone with a zone huh. Zoneception Hahahhah exactly... |
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| YO DAWG! I heard you entered the zone, so we put a door inside another door so you can go deeper while you 're in the zone. What is the zone? Super Saiyan forms?! |
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...this isn't even my final form....Let's go SSJ3 Yo Dawg... I heard you entered the zone, So we put a door inside another door so you can go deeper while you 're in the zone ...they should have brought their ID's or gate passes to enter the door easily. especially with that gate keeper. haha LOL. Cool to have more Aomine screen time. Still, kinda boring chapter. Akashi sounds like someone from another manga. |
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