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Mar 30, 2014 9:45 AM
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Tbh, those two twins are so weird.

We learn more about Ichihime this episode and I find her bonding with Nobunaga to be better than I thought. And although I'm not a fan of Caesar, I like his style and ideology that challenges against Nobunaga despite his controversial offer. Dat cliffhanger.
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Mar 30, 2014 12:18 PM
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Its tea time~~
Mar 30, 2014 12:56 PM
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quite intense for just a tea party
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Mar 30, 2014 1:19 PM
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Interesting... that's all I can really say.

Mitsu, what shall you do...
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Mar 30, 2014 1:51 PM
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Caesar had decided to have Lady Ichihime as his wife. Mitsuhide was shocked to hear and that good WTF expression on Nobunaga's face.
Mar 30, 2014 2:00 PM
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Ichihime! ♥
She is my favorite girl from this series! *.*

Oh, Ceasar, I really like you in this episode!
Really like this tone and style of voice, Nakamura-san *.*

I really like soundtrack when Nobu and Ceasar talk about King Arthur :)

Oh... my, poor Mitsuhide... ;(
I don't mind CeasarxIchihime
but I totally ship MitsuhidexIchihime *.*
Still have lot of hopes for this ship!
Mar 30, 2014 2:06 PM
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Being Mitsu is suffering.
Mar 30, 2014 2:09 PM
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I wonder what caused that huge red crack on the surface of the Star of the West to appear.
Mar 30, 2014 2:19 PM
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Mitsuhide is just stunned that Ichihime is gonna be Caesar's wife. That cliffhanger at the end there.
Mar 30, 2014 2:22 PM

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He realized what his father taught him.

Nobunaga's Tea party with freedom... brother ans sister talk. She said she would do anything as he told her to do.

According to that weird guy, King Arthur is the one instead of Nobunaga. To give out all shinki and guarantee protection. Nobunaga said no, and waiting for a chance to meet King Arthur. Sister accepted his request to protect their land. That guy's shocking face... does that mean he likes her?
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Mar 30, 2014 3:40 PM

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Ichihime-sama nooooooo!

I don´t know if trusting Caesar is the right decision, hope he doesn´t become even a bigger dick than he already is >_>
Mar 30, 2014 3:41 PM

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So the fool runs in the family I suppose.

If I was Nobu right know and my sister said that she "accepts". I probably would have went ape shit at the tea ceremony.

Great episode!!!
Mar 30, 2014 4:32 PM
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Obviously Mitsuhide is in love with Ichihime, I don't know why but this annoys me. xD
Mar 30, 2014 5:03 PM

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I wasn't surprised by the events that took place, but their reactions were interesting. Mitsuhide was completely shocked, Ichihime was determined, and Nobunaga had WTF written all over his face.


I was a bit surprised by Mitsuhide's reaction. I suppose he liked her? Just as surprising though, since he killed the younger brother rather easily.

Interesting development. Hope Ichihime will kill off Caesar later. :)
Mar 30, 2014 5:12 PM
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Dangoxx said:
Obviously Mitsuhide is in love with Ichihime, I don't know why but this annoys me. xD


Because its been done before many times. MC's best friend falls in love with MC's little sister.
Mar 30, 2014 5:20 PM

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Caesar is so best right now.

I knew he was going to ask for Ichi, but I still smiled when he did.

I actually hope they get along well.
Mar 30, 2014 5:31 PM

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I was a bit surprised by Mitsuhide's reaction. I suppose he liked her? Just as surprising though, since he killed the younger brother rather easily.


I thought it was pretty obvious only a few episodes into the series that Mitsuhide was madly in love with Ichihime though.
Mar 30, 2014 6:01 PM

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I bet Mitsu now regrets he didn't accept Ichihime's confession back then.
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Mar 30, 2014 6:08 PM

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I used to hate the fact that Caesar was after Ichi, but after Nobu's and his discussion this episode, I don't think he's all that bad anymore (being a backstabbing traitor not withstanding), so I kind of opened up to the possibility of him desiring/ending up with Ichi. Just as long as he treats her well, and doesn't end up betraying Nobu. And to think that only one episode ago I wanted him dead. That's the power of Yuichi Nakamura I suppose.

Mitsuhide can't seem to catch a break. Its just one thing after another with him, poor guy. My condolences for all of the suffering he's put up with.
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Mar 30, 2014 6:57 PM
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Yup, let the NTR begin.
Mar 30, 2014 7:13 PM

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The Fool.. my mind blew when Ichihime is the one who actually resembles The Fool for this episode.. such an admirable character.. no wonder everyone in the show treats her with high regard.. characters that resemble The Fool has always been interesting to see, as their spontaneity allows their inherent talent and charm to surface whenever the situation calls.. they face head-on towards whatever adversary or obstacles.. with that said, the tarot card has once again influenced the one who drew it, as we see Jeanne disregard the formalities and her position in the tea ceremony and proclaimed that Nobunaga is the Savior-King..

anyway, next ep is Ace of Swords which signifies the ability to make radical decisions.. seeing as it turns out that the speaker of the episode preview would usually be the one the titular tarot card would refer to (it's amazing to find out that it was Ichihime who was speaking for the preview of this ep Fool, Himiko for Strength, Hideyoshi for Temperance, etc), i guess Mitsuhide really needs this after all seeing as how much he's suffering..
Mar 30, 2014 11:54 PM

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poor ichihime
her father killed by caesar
her brother killed by mitsu

ichi joining nobu harem next time :p #inc*st
Mar 31, 2014 1:36 AM

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Caesar went into that tea ceremony like a boos and came out with some good old Charlie Sheen "WINNING!" I knew he'd get her sooner or later but it happened a lot quicker than I thought.

I like Mitsu because of how he is. He does what truly needs to be done for the sake of his lord, land, and people. He should know that he never really had a chance with Ichihime and REALLY doesn't deserve her seeing how, you know, he killed her younger brother and all.

Ichihime was a boss that episode. I don't really like her all that much, but I love how she just stole the spotlight with just a quick "shut the fuck up and let me have a say about my own damn future!"

Gotta love Nobu's and Mitsu's derp faces at the end though!
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Mar 31, 2014 3:00 AM
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Ichihime is a true princess. It's a bit sad that she'll marry the man who killed her father.

And Mitsuhide gets his just desserts for having killed her brother.
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Mar 31, 2014 3:11 AM

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Seems western dragon got angry or Arthur screwed something in that precise time.
Mar 31, 2014 7:04 AM

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Went down exactly as I expected! :D Well Mistuhide brought this on himself, he's the one who reject Ichihime's confession. Look now Ichihime can be with the guy who killed father instead of the guy who killed her brother :D

If Ceaser isn't lying then he's not "that" bad I guess.
That conversion was rather interesting, looks like things will go beyond East and into Western Planet.
Mar 31, 2014 7:06 AM
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Great episode, fun seeing Ichihime having some spotlight. I actually find the Ichi/Ceasar relationship quite interesting, unlike Mitsuhide. People seem to feel bad for him but I don't really, he gets on my nerves. What's sad is the fact that both these 2 potential guys killed two of her family members, poor girl. While I don't think the romance is much important to the plot I rather have her with Ceasar than with Mitsu. The fact that Nobukatsu was killed by an "ally" (or more like backstabbed) gets on me more than her father being killed in battle, as they were enemies then. Oh well, I suppose we will see what's going to happen.
Mar 31, 2014 7:17 AM

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Huh.. Interesting turn of events; specifically the fact that Caesar seemed less detestable this episode. I still hate him and he's still on my list of characters I want to see die a horrible death.
Dat crack at the end though...
I wonder what truly motivates Davinci, and what the hell is that tiny notebook he's been writing in so far?

So next episode will focus on Mitsu maybe? If it does, I hope it'll be as good or better than Monkey's episode :D

Also, kill those twins. Like right now.
Mar 31, 2014 9:53 AM
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what can i say 4 that episode??i bet that nobu will make the foooldecision and at the end u see tha ichi did it...wow rly unexpectable..i hope that the oppening and especially the ending will not change now that the new season begins..
Mar 31, 2014 10:19 AM

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oh fuck. Why Ichi, why dat basturd?!?!?! If it's Nagamasa then i can understand since it's pure love. FUCK YOU, CEASAR ;_; Is that me or Mitsuhide likes Ichi?
Mar 31, 2014 11:59 AM

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Damn, I didn't hate Caesar before and now I definitely won't. I really hope his relationship with Ichihime blossoms.
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Mar 31, 2014 6:54 PM

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Saw it coming from miles away.. but still. Such a foolish act indeed. This will be a heck of an NTR.
Mar 31, 2014 8:26 PM

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Just like i said last week, Caesar indeed did a request of trading protection for Ichi-hime at the tea party lol. Mitsuhide got shocked after hearing Ichi-hime accepted Caesar's request. I guessing Mitsuhide have some sort of affection for her then.

Hmm.. After hearing Ichi-hime accepted Caesar's Request i don't think Mitsuhide will gladly accept it like nothing has happen at all. I have a feeling that Mitsuhide will try to put on his Hanya mask and snipe Caesar in the ass!
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To think that one episode can make me change the way I view Caesar. I still doubt him though, since he killed and backstabbed Shingen.

Must be hard to be Mitsuhide.
Mar 31, 2014 8:45 PM

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Im out, gonna doing what im doing with Nisekoi, waiting for them to finish, then marathoning.

if i didnt, i feel like i would drop them otherwise.

i cant because this anime is to good.
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Mar 31, 2014 9:00 PM

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The fooliness runs in the family.
Idk why but I ship Ceaser x Ichihime
The talk about two savior kings and King Arthur was cool.
That sudden engagement and approval was a shock too me ,I spit out my drink even.

One thing I noticed both men killed someone she loved so dearly,I feel sorry for her ,but she wants to save her people .
Mitsuhide you had your chance.
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Apr 1, 2014 6:07 AM

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We know that Ichihime likes Mitsuhide, but I never thought he likes her too. It kinda annoys me, because I can't see Mitsu dating with her. The episode preview irritated me, I'm hoping Mitsu don't say that he loves her too, or else I'll be really irritated xD
But if they got together it's okay, I don't like this shipp but I don't hate it uwu
Apr 1, 2014 7:13 AM

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Yeeeah OTP. Mitsu x IchiHime. This anime shows that marriages don't necessarily equal romance (like Nobu and Himeko) so it's not like it's impossible to dream. Caesar can be decent when he's not being crazy tho.

Anyway, that was quite an intense tea ceremony. Again, this show is ridiculous but I love it.

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Dangoxx said:
Obviously Mitsuhide is in love with Ichihime, I don't know why but this annoys me. xD


Because its been done before many times. MC's best friend falls in love with MC's little sister.

Gimme those shows pls
Apr 1, 2014 7:29 PM

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And.... Best Girl gets NTRed this episode. Why you do dis to me, animu.

Mitsuhide should have been the one for Ichihime, considering how both put up such an effort to support Nobunaga from behind. Not to mention, Mitsuhide is Nobu's close friend, and the only analytically dependable adviser he has.

Losing imouto is always sad. But it's better to lose imouto to best friend, than lose imouto to greedy, back-stabbing bastard.
Apr 1, 2014 11:47 PM

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She accepted so easily, it might be for the good of the Oda, but still :/

I hope Caesar breaks his promise so that we can watch Ichihime kill him! >:D

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Dangoxx said:
Obviously Mitsuhide is in love with Ichihime, I don't know why but this annoys me. xD


Because its been done before many times. MC's best friend falls in love with MC's little sister.


I'm pretty sure that most of the time the best friend didn't also kill the MC's little brother though. Because of that it annoys me as well :/
Apr 2, 2014 4:25 AM

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Everything went way better than expected. Both Caesar and Ichihime won me over even more than before, proving they're wiser than I initially thought and in the same time - really devoted to what they value.


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I bet Mitsu now regrets he didn't accept Ichihime's confession back then.
Yea, but he totally deserved it, even if Mitsu's my fave.
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And.... Best Girl gets NTRed this episode. Why you do dis to me, animu.

Mitsuhide should have been the one for Ichihime, considering how both put up such an effort to support Nobunaga from behind. Not to mention, Mitsuhide is Nobu's close friend, and the only analytically dependable adviser he has.

Losing imouto is always sad. But it's better to lose imouto to best friend, than lose imouto to greedy, back-stabbing bastard.


Funny that you find Ceasar the so called "backstabber". I find that Mitsuhide is more suitable to that title, considering the fact that he after all was Nobukatsus ally and Nobunagas bestfriend and confident. Ceasar however hasn't stabbed anyone in the back. Yes, he killed Nobunagas father in battle, but they were enemies and they did what was expected of them in a fight: to kill eachother. Ceasar is very cunning and kind of an asshole, but even so he doesn't lack pride, he even tried to be reasonable and negotiated a peace treaty with Nobunaga. If Ceasar is true to his word however is to be seen, he might be playing them.
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Well, well, well!! With Ichihime's resolve, I have no doubt that she'll slice Caeser's throat as he sleeps. Caeser better sleep with one eye open!

What the hell is Mitsuhide about to have a fit for? He rejected Ichihime. Did Mitsuhide really expect her to not handle her business because she was too busy pining for him?

Can we kill those imps off, please? They work my nerves!

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Apr 3, 2014 3:51 AM

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Mooniechick said:

Funny that you find Ceasar the so called "backstabber". I find that Mitsuhide is more suitable to that title, considering the fact that he after all was Nobukatsus ally and Nobunagas bestfriend and confident. Ceasar however hasn't stabbed anyone in the back.


What about him literally stabbing Lord Shingen's back?
The two had an alliance and he broke it just like that.
Apr 3, 2014 4:26 AM

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poor Mitsu... i hope he'll get mad and kill all the enemy, Caesar, King Arthur and all these guys xD oh, and Nobu... what will he do in this kind of situation? his idea of tea ceremony, did not go well...
Apr 4, 2014 6:17 PM

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Good ep! I was actually a little bored lately, but the character/political interactions of this show, between East and West, actually makes it interesting. Oda House made an intermission and invited Caesar to tea (LOL)

Surprisingly, Caesar was a gentleman. Second thought, even Nobu has been looking like he really matured.

Yes, being Mitsu is suffering. Will Brutus and Mitsu end up traitors like their historical counterparts?
Apr 5, 2014 4:51 PM

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This anime needs more of Mitsu's ninja-girls.

Don't get all jealous now, you had your chance.
Apr 6, 2014 12:49 PM

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I'm glad this happened, I kinda like Caesar tbh. I have not liked Mitsu sinced he "offed" Nobu's little brother and if Ichi found out, I'm pretty sure she will toss her feelings for him out too.
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And Caesar gets what he really wants...Mitsu is going to crack soon enough.
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Ichi;____;
Noooo.
Mitsu, what will you do now~ (>_<)
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