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Jan 18, 2014 7:52 PM

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That was a really great episode. The Major backstory was truly beautiful. I really want to know who that young boy is now. I don't think it's Batou, because it look like he was still searching her. Makoto lived through some hard stuff...

Will there be a new member in the Section 9? It could be interresting. I don't think they did that badly, I mean even batou couldn't follow her in that strange place.

The OST was also really good.

Akihiko said:
As far as who the boy might be, who remembers this from episode 5?


Yeah, that's... spot on :P
minouneetzoeJan 18, 2014 7:57 PM
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May 14, 2014 7:38 PM

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I remember watching this episode a few years back and just stopping watching the series here, because I knew I wouldn't see an episode this beautiful that could top it. Sometimes the stories that are predictable manage to surprise us in the way they make us feel. Truly a piece of art in this anime. Never felt that way before.
Jun 15, 2014 12:56 AM

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5/5

Episode sweet and poignant, that breaks the rhythm.
Brief that has no impact on the main theme.
Episode in which the protagonist, going by logic, the Major and his past.
Technique, narration, graphics and OST optimal level, perhaps only the designs are a step lower in some places, but you can also fly over.
Curious to know the identity of the boy.
Jul 28, 2014 11:06 AM

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Wow. I don't know what else to say than, wow.

It's funny. I recently wrote a blog about the nostalgia GITS:SAC recently brought to me and I decided to watch 2nd GIG because I really didn't get a very good chance to watch it when it was airing on Adult Swim.

I got to this episode and boy, do I feel ashamed I didn't put in more of an effort to watch 2nd GIG. This was by far one of the most touching single anime episodes I've ever watched. There was a lot of context to this episode and the nice thing about it is unlike most GITS:SAC episodes, it's rather simple.

We already knew from the first season that Motoko was incredibly young when she received her first prosthetic body and that she had a hard time controlling it. We learned from this episode not only what led up to that, but discovered her inspiration and what drove her. I can only assume that part of the reason why the boy wasn't able to track her down was due to Motoko's heavy military involvement that probably kept her on the move and made it difficult to track.

This episode really brought a tear to my eye because it clearly showed the the two loved each other and that more times than not, first loves never work out...but you always carry with you the feelings and memories you had for your first love.

Powerful, powerful episode.
Aug 9, 2014 5:09 AM

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It's become one of my favourite episodes of any anime to date
Take care of yourself

Sep 30, 2014 1:45 AM

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It's become one of my favourite episodes of any anime to date

This ^^
Nov 11, 2014 11:06 AM

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This was such a nice episode.

So... The little girl was actually a younger Motoko. It's nice to have a little story about her past, because I totally didn't expect one.
Dec 11, 2014 9:39 AM

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Definitely the best episode of season 2 so far. Didn't expect to get major's backstory this episode but was not disappointed. I'm sure I know who that boy is and I'll be shocked if I'm wrong.


Also it's good to know that the major had feelings for someone before.
Dec 22, 2014 2:48 PM

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wow great episode.
the second i saw the little girl i thought "that looks a bit like the major" but i wasn't sure if it was supposed to be her until the end.
sad story but i loved it.
Feb 5, 2015 5:45 AM

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Ragna92 said:
Definitely the best episode of season 2 so far. Didn't expect to get major's backstory this episode but was not disappointed. I'm sure I know who that boy is and I'll be shocked if I'm wrong.


Also it's good to know that the major had feelings for someone before.


Well, I think the same as you, but the show doesn't really tells you that out loud. We, as in you and I, can only implie that. I believe is him, but I'm not 100% sure, who knows.

The Major has her caring side, as seen here and the Arise series, but she's pretty unconventional about that. I like how this episode its executed, far from cliches and moving along the tone of the GITS universe.
Feb 16, 2015 6:30 AM

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beautiful episode
Feb 17, 2015 9:29 AM

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Romeo said:
beautiful episode

The soundtrack was phenomenal too.
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Mar 1, 2015 1:09 PM

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Amazing episode, best one so far <333
Apr 20, 2015 10:17 PM
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Some GREAT character developments on MOTOKO. GREAT episode overall.
Apr 21, 2015 5:39 PM

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This episode is a really nice change. I hope there are more episodes like this later!
Apr 23, 2015 7:52 AM

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This episode was simply masterful, in almost every single regard this episode was just perfect and hard hitting
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i wont lie, this song combined with the scene had me really misty eyed

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 24, 2015 4:39 AM
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Beautifully done. The OST was perfect. Makes up for all the previous episodes.
May 3, 2015 5:27 AM

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Well what the heck am I supposed to add to that?
May 6, 2015 2:30 AM

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This was touching, great episode. And while Batou was still dishonest towards Motoko in the end, he at least was honest with himself and changed how to treat the recruits.
I'm still confused how the "hack" on Motoko worked, though, and how she vanished on the stairs. Did all the other people beside Motoko get hacked?

arimakenshin said:
This episode is one of the best subtle anime episodes I have ever seen. This episode would have been nothing without the music. Motoko&#039;s back story is very different from the manga version.


Here&#039;s the song:


Indeed, the music was brilliant support.
Aug 6, 2015 1:37 PM

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The Major can **** anytime she wants!

Aug 9, 2015 8:06 AM
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While I enjoyed this episode, I kind of mirror Kaiser's thoughts on this episde. It's easy to manipulate people with children drama and their naive idealism.

Aug 9, 2015 10:11 AM

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I dont know why ep 11 has name : Kusa Meikyū =草迷宮 ??
Glass and MAZE ?
Oct 31, 2015 1:50 PM

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this is where the show started to go a bit downhill for me.
Jan 4, 2016 3:58 AM

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Interista said:
I have a question....

Why couldn't she tell the boy who she was? What was her reason?

Now I have seen the entire show, but never felt like I got an answer on that one. I would very much like to know, so I hope some of you guys might be able to ease my mind.

In advance thanks for any replies


My take on the issue is that she didn't want to make him feel that he had been folding all those cranes for naught (as she was alive the whole time) and lose the will to go on (as folding cranes was what kept him going).

kingatomsk said:
While I enjoyed this episode, I kind of mirror Kaiser's thoughts on this episde. It's easy to manipulate people with children drama and their naive idealism.


All art is manipulative and some people just need more convincing than others. The emotions that are evoked are equally genuine though, so I wouldn't begrudge people for them. In the end, I suppose it's what you're looking for in a story. We've gone on for a season and a half following these characters and it's nice to see a heartfelt story of their past, relevant or not. (In this case, it did at least shed light on her origin story).
Feb 12, 2016 11:17 PM

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Love the song "I do" sang by Ilaria Graziano, her vocal is so soothing
Feb 19, 2016 6:10 PM

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Motoko character development, whats not to like?
Great Episode.
May 13, 2016 11:09 AM
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This is my favorite episode of the series thus far.
Very sweet, and sad... Motoko loved him. I hope she finds the boy some day...
And when she made the crane at the end... ;o;

This Motoko is the best version of her. She actually has humanity.
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May 19, 2016 7:35 AM

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A really nice backstory for Motoko, been looking forward to something like this.

This idea is kind of far-fetched, but towards the end of the episode I couldn't help feeling that Batou may be the boy from this episode? I'm most likely wrong but that's just the feeling I got.
Jun 9, 2016 9:51 AM

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oh gawd that was beautiful. why did i delay starting GitS until now? i really love this episode. all this time i feel like motoko is too... invincible. now it feels like she's much closer.
Jun 15, 2016 9:00 PM
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Miragee said:
This was touching, great episode. And while Batou was still dishonest towards Motoko in the end, he at least was honest with himself and changed how to treat the recruits.
I'm still confused how the "hack" on Motoko worked, though, and how she vanished on the stairs. Did all the other people beside Motoko get hacked?

arimakenshin said:
This episode is one of the best subtle anime episodes I have ever seen. This episode would have been nothing without the music. Motoko&#039;s back story is very different from the manga version.


Here&#039;s the song:


Indeed, the music was brilliant support.


you are so used to seeing Motoko hacker who does not perform que she was Actually hacked Motoko was the victim of a hacker, remember how she climbs the she stairs tries to talk to the Batou but can not, it is a mysterious place, recruits not find it after the staircase, nor the Batou at a later scene Which of the conclusion que her body went into a kind of hiding after the staircase and his mind was hacked probably by Kuze who remembered her after the attack on japan premie where it meets the kuse but she does not know who he is this episode and it at the beginning of the series.
Conclusion: Motoko was the victim hacker by Kuze made que remember the memories lost a long time.
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Jun 16, 2016 12:18 AM

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Matheus36364646 said:
Miragee said:
This was touching, great episode. And while Batou was still dishonest towards Motoko in the end, he at least was honest with himself and changed how to treat the recruits.
I'm still confused how the "hack" on Motoko worked, though, and how she vanished on the stairs. Did all the other people beside Motoko get hacked?



Indeed, the music was brilliant support.


you are so used to seeing Motoko hacker who does not perform que she was Actually hacked Motoko was the victim of a hacker, remember how she climbs the she stairs tries to talk to the Batou but can not, it is a mysterious place, recruits not find it after the staircase, nor the Batou at a later scene Which of the conclusion que her body went into a kind of hiding after the staircase and his mind was hacked probably by Kuze who remembered her after the attack on japan premie where it meets the kuse but she does not know who he is this episode and it at the beginning of the series.
Conclusion: Motoko was the victim hacker by Kuze made que remember the memories lost a long time.


I think this is quite far off from what actually happened.
Jun 16, 2016 1:01 AM
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Miragee said:
Matheus36364646 said:


you are so used to seeing Motoko hacker who does not perform que she was Actually hacked Motoko was the victim of a hacker, remember how she climbs the she stairs tries to talk to the Batou but can not, it is a mysterious place, recruits not find it after the staircase, nor the Batou at a later scene Which of the conclusion que her body went into a kind of hiding after the staircase and his mind was hacked probably by Kuze who remembered her after the attack on japan premie where it meets the kuse but she does not know who he is this episode and it at the beginning of the series.
Conclusion: Motoko was the victim hacker by Kuze made que remember the memories lost a long time.




I think this is quite far off from what actually happened.



what do you think happened she can not speak to the Batou, the signal it fell during the scene of the store she is alone with his old , any doubt that Motoko was hacked ?.

not for me
Jun 16, 2016 1:12 AM
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I think that's a certainty that she was invaded by a hacker
Jun 16, 2016 2:57 AM

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Matheus36364646 said:
Miragee said:




I think this is quite far off from what actually happened.



what do you think happened she can not speak to the Batou, the signal it fell during the scene of the store she is alone with his old , any doubt that Motoko was hacked ?.

not for me


I would have to rewatch that episode. What I meant was that I don't think she was hacked by Kuze. I also don't know which scene you are talking about where she would try and talk to Batou. I can't recall that. Wasn't he tailing her and she vanished? I think it's pretty clear that at least everybody else got hacked while going through that place. If not they would have seen Motoko. Now, I'm not sure whether Motoko was hacked or not. It's possible she was. Maybe it was a two-sided issue. We can't say for sure. But I'm fairly sure Kuze himself has nothing to do with it. He is not a hacker.
Jun 18, 2016 5:36 AM
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Miragee said:
Matheus36364646 said:



what do you think happened she can not speak to the Batou, the signal it fell during the scene of the store she is alone with his old , any doubt that Motoko was hacked ?.

not for me


I would have to rewatch that episode. What I meant was that I don't think she was hacked by Kuze. I also don't know which scene you are talking about where she would try and talk to Batou. I can't recall that. Wasn't he tailing her and she vanished? I think it's pretty clear that at least everybody else got hacked while going through that place. If not they would have seen Motoko. Now, I'm not sure whether Motoko was hacked or not. It's possible she was. Maybe it was a two-sided issue. We can't say for sure. But I'm fairly sure Kuze himself has nothing to do with it. He is not a hacker.




I was right, the Kuze is not just a hacker and also and a great conscience, the major tries to hack her celebrate but not conssegue in particular episode he deceives major, I was always sure that was never a common episode but the major was being victim of a hacker attack made by Kuze
Jun 18, 2016 5:37 AM
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I was right, the Kuze is not just a hacker and also and a great conscience, the major tries to hack her celebrate but not conssegue in particular episode he deceives major, I was always sure that was never a common episode but the major was being victim of a hacker attack made by Kuze
Jul 23, 2016 7:06 PM

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This has been, by far, my most favorite episode in SAC.

We got to see a different side of the Major after all this time. I really hope we get more episodes like this.
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Jul 28, 2016 10:46 PM

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Great episode. This anime never ceases to amaze me.
Aug 13, 2016 5:14 PM

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This episode on the Major's backstory was perfect in every aspect. I loved everything. It's definitely my favorite episode so far.
Aug 18, 2016 10:10 AM
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This was simply beautiful.
Sep 17, 2016 1:36 PM

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Kind of melodramatic but it was still very nice to see a character-driven episode that wasn't centered around batou or togusa
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Sep 20, 2016 9:52 AM

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Good episode, we got some backstory on Motoko. I wonder who the boy is though, first i thought it was Batou but that seems unlikely now.
Oct 6, 2016 9:06 AM

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Aww shame he's gone missing..
I hope she meet him in the near future
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Oct 31, 2016 9:35 PM

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Holy hell those production values for that episode

And yeah, not every episode needs to be full of action to be great
Nov 3, 2016 1:28 AM

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Mirorin said:
And I like Major's pants. :D

wow... I was literally going to make this comment again (3 years after my first watch)...

The way I interpret it this time, I bet the boy (man) set it up so that if someone followed a certain procedure (bouncing ball etc.) then they would be able to enter that shop/dimension. I don't think that shop exists in the real world.

--> And this is actually a really relevant episode for later development.
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Great episode
A touch of spirited away/boy and the beast right there
Dec 18, 2016 3:35 PM

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Consider me floored.
That origami crane part was so touching and thoughtful. If there was one gripe I had is that it was rather easy to tell that the full body prosthetic in the car looked like Motoko, so it took away some of the surprise factor.
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Feb 6, 2017 12:08 AM
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Awesome episode. The music complements the feels. Love it.
Mar 21, 2017 1:39 PM

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It seems like they have been saving their budget for this episode's artwork so far.
Apr 1, 2017 1:50 PM

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This was probably one of my favorite episodes so far.

So far I'm liking 2nd Gig more than the first season

5/5
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