Shuumatsu Train Doko e Iku? Episode 6 Discussion

Agree about Shizuru's comments being vile, but on this point:



Their actions and thought process may be considered dumb, but hey, that's realistic. People do and make dumb decisions all the time, or ones which outside observers would widely consider as such. Especially in a volatile and uncertain, high stress situation, and we're talking about mid-teenagers.



"Kinda harsh"? Give me a break. The comments were simply disgusting. Why would anyone stand for being spoken to like that by anyone else and just be expected to stand there or remain in place and take it calmly and well? Least of all from a person who you have some established relationship and trust with and who you care for and is supposed to care for you, like a friend or family member.

She basically told her that her aspirations were silly, she'll never amount for what she's striving for, and she's just a fool being delusional or full of herself for having any confidence in or desires or hope for her life and future. Honestly, running away and not ever speaking to Shizuru since that incident is one of the more mild reactions she could have to that attack on her character, interests, and worth as a person. A lot of people would have flipped out verbally or even physically (which, I don't approve of the latter of physical violence over any mere words, but fights have been started over far less).

That is basically what i was saying.

I get that they're trying to add some drama to the show, but Shizuru in the flashback was entirely out of character-- it's like the show doesn't know what to do with its characters because they're all really archetypal. Love drama in anime, but it feels super forced here

@RainbowToffee She has an obsessive connection/love relation with Youka, which was the case from the start. Leaving town as soon as possible to go after Youka without even telling her other friends.
She doesn't care what dream Youka has as long as it doesn't cause them to be apart. So she need Youka's ambition to tone down, hence why she can not accept a dream like that.
Trying to get her to back down from this doesn't work, she would rather put her life in danger than accept a world where she is disconnected from Youka.

Difference in education and interests, yes, certainly.

I don't think that there's enough evidence to suggest anything about intelligence here. They could be exactly equal and identical in that area, Yoka could be slightly or significantly more intelligent, or Shizuru could be slightly or significantly more intelligent. Just pursuit of education and interest in different areas of education or a lack thereof (of interest in formal education) is not a good indicator of it.

Some people do most of their learning outside of a classroom; even as early as at the grade school level, because of different learning styles, lifestyles and home environments/other situations, neurological development, etc. not being conducive to learning through a general arts education in a shared classroom as their optimal form of learning.

Yeah, I think it's either one of two things. Either she has an inferiority complex because she is and/or feels she's less intelligent herself, or is just less ambitious, and so feels threatened, intimidated, and naturally excluded by Yoka's aspirations and wants to keep her in their same home town of Agano together out of selfish motivations (both because she doesn't want to lose the company of a friend and because she doesn't want a close friend to leave town, become successful, and overshadow her/make her look bad, since that's how some people think - in a competitive way).

Or, there's some deeper underlying character motivation to it yet to be revealed and it's even more complex, whether isolated to Shizuru's character herself, or tying into the broader plot of the show. Which, if it's that one, we simply don't have enough concrete information to discern yet.

@RainbowToffee It's not out of character when we don't even know what kind of person Shizuru was prior to theit train adventure... Now we found out why Yoka left, Shizuru is insensitive, and even laughed and mocked Yoka's dream which led her to go to Ikebukuro. I too wouldn't to be with an insensitive jerk like Shizuru.

@watsym Shizuru has no right to dictate what Yoka's dream should be. An insensitive prick like Shizuru deserve to be left behind.

She's not just insensitive to Youka to this day she's still insensitive, doesn't even care about the condition of Youka's dog, and she's even a jerk to her friends.