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Mar 13, 2018 7:45 AM

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Hedoro also appeared...nice gintama final arc is so epic seeing all the characters is so overwelming sometimes
Mar 13, 2018 8:57 AM

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Been waiting for Hedoro's epicness! It was nostalgic seeing old characters from the Omyouji Arc. The Shinra's boss death was a little disappointing but overall nice action
Mar 13, 2018 12:17 PM
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So funny " You don't deserve your own flashback"

Gintoki saying that now it was time for Jump to bring out the ultimate shonen weapon power-creep Time to retreat to Schonen Sunday The four walls came tumbling down
Mar 13, 2018 12:17 PM
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Gintoki ripped the Paako flower!!! Hilarious!!! kekeke
Mar 13, 2018 3:44 PM
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GoldenDevilGamer said:
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That's a fair point. I mean farewell shinsengumi did have the slightly disappointing looking "utsuro vs everyone" battle (minus Utsuro vs Gintoki which is some of the best animation in the series). FS had several amazing looking episodes though, and the art particularly was crazy good most of the time. The boat fight looked pretty dang good, nobume vs sougo was great, hijikata vs sasaki was great, Utsuro VS Gin was great, and kondo+hijikata vs oboro was great. Plus the first episode of the arc looked like a movie and the last episode was close to that level.

Still you may have a point about yoshiwara. Everything was fully animated almost, with the only real exception being parts of gin vs hosen I believe. And that's a hell of a feat. Especially with how good kagura's battle looked, and how consistent everything was, as you mentioned.
The animations for Gintoki vs. Housen was spectacular. Some of the best animation Gintama ever had.

https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/19100
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Not saying it wasn't. Just saying that it did have still frames. Particularly when the hyaaka tried to attack hosen. And several small parts of the gin vs hosen fight itself. Such as when Gin hit hosen with his sword handle to the chin.
Mar 13, 2018 3:48 PM
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this is what I kinda miss from the older seasons, the heaviness of the battle and that the blows felt like they actually hit something, nowadays it looks just weird[/quote]

It kinda varies by episode. For example, there's been plenty of heaviness on fights like Gin vs Takasugi, parts of gin vs kamui, and the recent fight against utsuro and his zombies. That "get off me" hit after hitsugi slashed gin in the back had so much impact that I winced.
Mar 14, 2018 12:28 PM

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SenpaiJay98 said:
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i really dont buy that excuse when the animation noticibly got worse after it began looking plasticy.
I mean...we don't really know that by fair comparison standards, we haven't seen a 12-17 Episode straight(no breaks) arc from the 2011/Enchousen level of artwork and detailed, and we haven't seen a 5 episode only serious arc(like 4 Devas, Thorny, or Coursetan) for the new artstyle(Only one was the Reaper arc but that was more of a dialogue heavy serious arc)

Like imagine keeping the 2011 artstyle and doing 17 episodes straight serious arc(SA and FS since they're combined)...that would he a fucking nightmare to animate and keep consistent lol(like Courstan barely looked good...and there was a 1-2 month break before it aired and after it aired, and only 2 of the episodes in that arc had action, only 1 episode in Thorny had action, 4 Devas was the only longish one that had amazing action cobsistent...and even then the action sequences were like 2 minutes for episode 211, 213, and 214) Yoshiwara was the only previous long serious arc that had amazing animation(and imo it's the best arc for consistency)...But even that was the 4:3 no HD artstyle in the year 2009 lolol
Do you guys think that the 2011/Enchousen detailed artstyle would have crashed if they had to do a 17 episode serious arcs, it just have still frames for like 90% of those 17 episodes?

And would 4 Devas, Thorny, Coursetan, have had more action moments with animation if it had the less detailed artstyle back in the day?
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crystalblade13 said:

this is what I kinda miss from the older seasons, the heaviness of the battle and that the blows felt like they actually hit something, nowadays it looks just weird


It kinda varies by episode. For example, there's been plenty of heaviness on fights like Gin vs Takasugi, parts of gin vs kamui, and the recent fight against utsuro and his zombies. That "get off me" hit after hitsugi slashed gin in the back had so much impact that I winced.[/quote]Umibozu vs Utsuro also when they both hit each other other fists and you see all the dirt come out or different angles and had a heavy motion to it(they only fucked up on the episode 325 part ofnthe fight), or when Kamui fiught everyone in 326 and you have Kagura and Kamui pincjing each other whike the wind is making circle around them(because of the forces of the punch or when Hedero punched Ougai I think everyone felt that

They fucked up on the Oboro vs Takasugi, 2nd half of Umibozu vs Utsuro, Ouhai fight during the stair case, and the 2nd part of the Shinra fight though...
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Mar 14, 2018 2:24 PM
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Oh my look how much turn around... especially with what Gintama did at the end...priceless! XD.
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Mar 14, 2018 9:13 PM

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Best episode yet! Too bad the score is falling...
Mar 15, 2018 9:18 AM

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Draconix814 said:
Best episode yet! Too bad the score is falling...

the score depends on the series as a whole, if it has a turn of events or some awesome fulfilling ending, the score will rise again, if it stays like this it probably ends up around the same score it is now.

also, has the manga ever announced that it will be ending before? as a troll and all?
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SenpaiJay98 said:
crystalblade13 said:

this is what I kinda miss from the older seasons, the heaviness of the battle and that the blows felt like they actually hit something, nowadays it looks just weird


It kinda varies by episode. For example, there's been plenty of heaviness on fights like Gin vs Takasugi, parts of gin vs kamui, and the recent fight against utsuro and his zombies. That "get off me" hit after hitsugi slashed gin in the back had so much impact that I winced.
Umibozu vs Utsuro also when they both hit each other other fists and you see all the dirt come out or different angles and had a heavy motion to it(they only fucked up on the episode 325 part ofnthe fight), or when Kamui fiught everyone in 326 and you have Kagura and Kamui pincjing each other whike the wind is making circle around them(because of the forces of the punch or when Hedero punched Ougai I think everyone felt that

They fucked up on the Oboro vs Takasugi, 2nd half of Umibozu vs Utsuro, Ouhai fight during the stair case, and the 2nd part of the Shinra fight though...[/quote]


I thought the second half of the shinra fight looked fine in the animation department. They just kinda altered the choreography and made it slightly less awesome as a result.
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Salamak said:
Draconix814 said:
Best episode yet! Too bad the score is falling...

the score depends on the series as a whole, if it has a turn of events or some awesome fulfilling ending, the score will rise again, if it stays like this it probably ends up around the same score it is now.

also, has the manga ever announced that it will be ending before? as a troll and all?

I know that, I've been around MAL long enough. It's just disheartening when an anime gets better with each episode, but the score gets worse through no fault of its own...

You'll have to ask someone else about the manga. It was supposed to end a month ago for crying out loud!
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Draconix814 said:
Salamak said:

the score depends on the series as a whole, if it has a turn of events or some awesome fulfilling ending, the score will rise again, if it stays like this it probably ends up around the same score it is now.

also, has the manga ever announced that it will be ending before? as a troll and all?

I know that, I've been around MAL long enough. It's just disheartening when an anime gets better with each episode, but the score gets worse through no fault of its own...

You'll have to ask someone else about the manga. It was supposed to end a month ago for crying out loud!

apparently the 3rd and final act of S.S started a month ago and the series can be 700 chapters which means it'll go on till September or something.

forget this season, every time a new season airs previous seasons scores go lower. gintama 2015 was 9.22 and 2nd in september.
Mar 15, 2018 2:07 PM

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Salamak said:
Draconix814 said:

I know that, I've been around MAL long enough. It's just disheartening when an anime gets better with each episode, but the score gets worse through no fault of its own...

You'll have to ask someone else about the manga. It was supposed to end a month ago for crying out loud!

apparently the 3rd and final act of S.S started a month ago and the series can be 700 chapters which means it'll go on till September or something.

forget this season, every time a new season airs previous seasons scores go lower. gintama 2015 was 9.22 and 2nd in september.

I hate to place blame but Gintama° was sitting at a strong 9.25 until Gintama. aired last year. Can't help but feel that the wait and choppy releases has something to do with it...
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Draconix814 said:
Salamak said:

apparently the 3rd and final act of S.S started a month ago and the series can be 700 chapters which means it'll go on till September or something.

forget this season, every time a new season airs previous seasons scores go lower. gintama 2015 was 9.22 and 2nd in september.

I hate to place blame but Gintama° was sitting at a strong 9.25 until Gintama. aired last year. Can't help but feel that the wait and choppy releases has something to do with it...

nah every time a new season airs people get mad and take it out on every season. people watching gintama just give a lower score if a season is not good, they won't lower their previous seasons score..but 9.25 really? what was fmab score then?
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Salamak said:
Draconix814 said:

I know that, I've been around MAL long enough. It's just disheartening when an anime gets better with each episode, but the score gets worse through no fault of its own...

You'll have to ask someone else about the manga. It was supposed to end a month ago for crying out loud!

apparently the 3rd and final act of S.S started a month ago and the series can be 700 chapters which means it'll go on till September or something.

forget this season, every time a new season airs previous seasons scores go lower. gintama 2015 was 9.22 and 2nd in september.


It's just because of butthurt people who don't watch Gintama. Gintama itself remains quality and those who actually watch it know that.
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Salamak said:
Draconix814 said:

I hate to place blame but Gintama° was sitting at a strong 9.25 until Gintama. aired last year. Can't help but feel that the wait and choppy releases has something to do with it...

nah every time a new season airs people get mad and take it out on every season. people watching gintama just give a lower score if a season is not good, they won't lower their previous seasons score..but 9.25 really? what was fmab score then?

It seems you are relatively new to MAL... Originally FMAB sat at 9.26. But at the end of Winter 2016, when Gintama° stopped airing, the score skyrocketed from a 9.17 to a 9.34, taking the reigns of Top Anime until Your Name beat it out around September or October 2016. By that time, the score for FMAB dropped to a 9.25, and Gintama stayed above it as a 9.26; some time when Your name took the helm, and right before Gintama. aired, it dropped down to a 9.24, I think. But after the Gintama. anime aired it slowly went down to the score it has today.
Similar things happened in the past, such as with Gintama' where it had a 9.33 average, surpassing FMAB for a good while before it took top place again, but that was much too long ago.

Here's the screenshots (and the post) that I write about this very subject on. (P.S. go to the link on the bottom too)
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Draconix814 said:
Salamak said:

nah every time a new season airs people get mad and take it out on every season. people watching gintama just give a lower score if a season is not good, they won't lower their previous seasons score..but 9.25 really? what was fmab score then?

It seems you are relatively new to MAL... Originally FMAB sat at 9.26. But at the end of Winter 2016, when Gintama° stopped airing, the score skyrocketed from a 9.17 to a 9.34, taking the reigns of Top Anime until Your Name beat it out around September or October 2016. By that time, the score for FMAB dropped to a 9.25, and Gintama stayed above it as a 9.26; some time when Your name took the helm, and right before Gintama. aired, it dropped down to a 9.24, I think. But after the Gintama. anime aired it slowly went down to the score it has today.
Similar things happened in the past, such as with Gintama' where it had a 9.33 average, surpassing FMAB for a good while before it took top place again, but that was much too long ago.

Here's the screenshots (and the post) that I write about this very subject on.

Yeah i am XD
People always bitch about gintama's score when it hasn't aired yet or when only few episodes had came out, i wonder what they bitched about when a finished airing season beat fmab xD
Mar 15, 2018 3:40 PM

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crystalblade13 said:
Salamak said:

apparently the 3rd and final act of S.S started a month ago and the series can be 700 chapters which means it'll go on till September or something.

forget this season, every time a new season airs previous seasons scores go lower. gintama 2015 was 9.22 and 2nd in september.


It's just because of butthurt people who don't watch Gintama. Gintama itself remains quality and those who actually watch it know that.

Well you gotta agree comedy is subjective and if some one is not a fan, they'll have a hard time getting through the series..
And it seems so aimless at the beginning many drop it before ep 50.
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Salamak said:
Draconix814 said:

It seems you are relatively new to MAL... Originally FMAB sat at 9.26. But at the end of Winter 2016, when Gintama° stopped airing, the score skyrocketed from a 9.17 to a 9.34, taking the reigns of Top Anime until Your Name beat it out around September or October 2016. By that time, the score for FMAB dropped to a 9.25, and Gintama stayed above it as a 9.26; some time when Your name took the helm, and right before Gintama. aired, it dropped down to a 9.24, I think. But after the Gintama. anime aired it slowly went down to the score it has today.
Similar things happened in the past, such as with Gintama' where it had a 9.33 average, surpassing FMAB for a good while before it took top place again, but that was much too long ago.

Here's the screenshots (and the post) that I write about this very subject on.

Yeah i am XD
People always bitch about gintama's score when it hasn't aired yet or when only few episodes had came out, i wonder what they bitched about when a finished airing season beat fmab xD

The anime community flipped its collective shit. That's what happened. Everyone expected Erased to overtake it if anything, but then Gintama waltzed in and shot up to the top, and everyone who hasn't watched Gintama became the same trolls who bitch about it every time Gintama makes it onto the Top 10. Meanwhile, I was bingeing Gintama at the time and I just caught up to the anime before the release of the last episode, so I flipped my collective shit when I saw it shoot up to 9.33 right when I caught up to it- it was literally the hypest moment of my life, and that hype lasted well into the year.
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Salamak said:
crystalblade13 said:


It's just because of butthurt people who don't watch Gintama. Gintama itself remains quality and those who actually watch it know that.

Well you gotta agree comedy is subjective and if some one is not a fan, they'll have a hard time getting through the series..
And it seems so aimless at the beginning many drop it before ep 50.

Yeah, but the trolls say they watch it and put it on their list as a 1. It is the most disgusting thing I've seen, all because they're butthurt.
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Draconix814 said:
Salamak said:

Yeah i am XD
People always bitch about gintama's score when it hasn't aired yet or when only few episodes had came out, i wonder what they bitched about when a finished airing season beat fmab xD

The anime community flipped its collective shit. That's what happened. Everyone expected Erased to overtake it if anything, but then Gintama waltzed in and shot up to the top, and everyone who hasn't watched Gintama became the same trolls who bitch about it every time Gintama makes it onto the Top 10. Meanwhile, I was bingeing Gintama at the time and I just caught up to the anime before the release of the last episode, so I flipped my collective shit when I saw it shoot up to 9.33 right when I caught up to it- it was literally the hypest moment of my life, and that hype lasted well into the year.

Omg XD
man i found gintama pretty late XD
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Salamak said:
Draconix814 said:

The anime community flipped its collective shit. That's what happened. Everyone expected Erased to overtake it if anything, but then Gintama waltzed in and shot up to the top, and everyone who hasn't watched Gintama became the same trolls who bitch about it every time Gintama makes it onto the Top 10. Meanwhile, I was bingeing Gintama at the time and I just caught up to the anime before the release of the last episode, so I flipped my collective shit when I saw it shoot up to 9.33 right when I caught up to it- it was literally the hypest moment of my life, and that hype lasted well into the year.

Omg XD
man i found gintama pretty late XD

Just a little out of the loop, not really "late". I'd watch it all over again if I had the time... But I don't, and my memory is fuzzy. Well, I won't deny that the peak of Gintama's hype was definitely after Gintama° stopped airing. The shock and emotions were unlike everything we had felt form any anime before, at least in my opinion, and it definitely got people looking at Gintama, for better or worse.
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Draconix814 said:
Salamak said:

Omg XD
man i found gintama pretty late XD

Just a little out of the loop, not really "late". I'd watch it all over again if I had the time... But I don't, and my memory is fuzzy. Well, I won't deny that the peak of Gintama's hype was definitely after Gintama° stopped airing. The shock and emotions were unlike everything we had felt form any anime before, at least in my opinion, and it definitely got people looking at Gintama, for better or worse.

yeah i managed to watch gintama without even minor spoilers somehow, and gintama° was great..
That was a very nice plot twist. I'm waiting on my friends to catch up so i can see their reaction lol
Mar 17, 2018 2:34 PM

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Lmao, yet another hilarious episode xDD gotta love Gintama.
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Mar 21, 2018 3:22 PM

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Last arc and the focus is on these irrelevant side characters. Disappointing.

are you new to gintama or something? main characters will get enough spotlight don't worry about it. we're not even half way through.
besides, we already know main characters full backstories...
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boybandz said:
Last arc and the focus is on these irrelevant side characters. Disappointing.
It's because that this is the final arc that the side characters are getting focus. Every character deserves the spotlight before the series is ending. After all, this final arc is a celebration of what Gintama is, and its these side characters that make up what Gintama is, alongside with the main characters.

Well, you'll definitely like the second part of this arc more, since it almost solely focuses on the major characters.
Mar 22, 2018 6:53 AM

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well epic girl time is what this episode was…that ball crushes were truly excruciating to watch btw
Apr 9, 2018 8:41 AM
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Finally Hedoro came,I was asking about where he was two episode ago.
Apr 30, 2018 4:26 AM

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Dat ending just loves it...
May 17, 2018 4:08 PM

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Oh boy what an intense episode and lol that ending! This arc really is quite a lot better than previous one! Let's see what's next.
Dec 25, 2018 12:25 AM
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Ohhh that's hilarious! Jirocho breaking the 4th wall by stopping a side character's flashback XD

I have wondered for a long time about the true backstory of Hedoro, and now they've finally revealed it. That flower on his head was a parasite all along. The fact that he's the strongest Dakini warrior really explains his demonic stare.

And so more character has arrived, this includes Gedomaru and Asshole Ketsuno Ana.

In the preview, is that particular Pandemonium still alive! Shinpachi will have a great time.
Jul 10, 2019 7:55 AM

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Hedoro is a beast. :D

NOOOooo, HEDOROS FLOWER!!!!
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I think this is my new favourite season of Gintama. The blend of action and comedy is just God tier. Thank God for Sorachi. Hedoro is too fucking strong, I wonder if he can beat Utsuro lol. Him and Umibozu vs Utsuro. I don't mind the still frames too much, it's better than the alternative and using CGI for crowd shots.
Nov 24, 2019 8:26 PM
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Hahaha that's hilarious, Hedoro's identity. The "Do we really need your flashback?" scene was hilarious, too.
Nov 28, 2019 9:58 PM

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Lmao Hedoro's flower got plucked, they're fked now!!
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Jan 21, 2020 12:48 PM

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I was waiting from the 1st episode of this Arc the appearance of Ketsuno Clan with my favorite OST. Did not disappoint.
Feb 24, 2020 11:17 AM

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Never fails to amaze me again and again, Hedoro I expect him to put Edo into chaos.
Apr 20, 2020 11:58 AM

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Amazing episode! Love the return of so many old characters in the final arc. The first part had nice action scenes and the 4th wall breaking was very funny. The flashback and the moment between Otose and Tatsugoro on the roof was quite emotional. Finally we get the return of Hedoro and he's too OP lol. Everyone running around in fear was hilarious. They managed to drive the enemy back with the help of the onyoji but that ending with Gin plucking out the flower was priceless! XD




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Hedoro was amazing, he scared everybody and destroyed the general in 1 punch!!! All the characters from the entire anime are returning! This is honestly epic.. Still, I wonder what with happen to Gintoki since he broke Hedoro's flower

Oct 24, 2020 12:28 AM

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LMAO "Do we really need your flashback?", I agreed with Jirochon on that XD

And Hedoro, I knew it was him lol.
May 28, 2021 10:32 AM

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Great episode, we get tons of action, and well, the comedy is better than the last episode.
Yay, just your "average" neighbor Hedoro is here! Also, Gintoki is probably(?) screwed lol.
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hedoro stronk af!
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Damn, that's a sudden power creep indeed. Hedoro and the shikigamis destroyed that army like nothing.

I want to be sent to hell by that cutie Gedoumaru. hehe
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I was waiting for Hedoro to appear at some point and he did.
This season is honestly hilarious, i know it's supposed to be a serious arc but damn.


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LMAO I should have expected Hedoro to be like that, it's not surprising that he was kinda hardcore back then and that the flower on his head is controlling/softening him, also it's nice that the Ketsuno clean appeared and they made the enemy's army left! Though Gintoki removed the flower on Hedoro's head and unsealed him XD
Jul 23, 2022 3:24 PM

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oopsies, gin chan plucked that parasite flower
Jul 30, 2022 10:12 PM
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Hedro!!!!!! He f**king killed them in an instant. I hope Kabukicho let Hedro and other Amanto live there.
Ketsuno clan is here with there monsters trick to defeat them.

Kabukicho town won the battle, next episode is going to be hilarious!
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It is nice seeing the characters showing up once more again. Never would have guessed Hedoro is such a monster too.
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