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| Moco is living in such a fairy tail..but it seems the reality is pretty harsh |
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| They decently went through those parts of the story which were necessary for the story progression, but not very much enjoyable to follow. Well then... on to the meat of the show ^_^ ... the confessions. |
| To be honest this episode just made me dislike Moka even more. She says that she is fine with it being a one sided love as long as Mugi is hers, but as soon as she gets close enough to touch Mugi; to be with him. She realises that she doesn't want him if Mugi doesn't love her back. I understand why Mugi backed off from his POV, you see it all the time in SOL anime's like Golden Time for example where a relationship wasn't pursued because of barriers etc (not stating anything more incase people haven't seen it, and if you have you know what i'm talking about.) So I kind of expected Mugi to back off. Just seemed like an episode to clear the hurdle called "Moka" so we can move on and possibly see an episode which has more Ecchan(if it wasn't ep 6) where the ties are completely broken between Hanabi and Ecchan. It does seem like the story is ending too clearly for my tastes as I have witnessed the gritty, overwhelming lust between each of the characters that I don't want to go back to a Vanilla setting where boy meets girl blah blah blah fall in love. We are seeing Hanabi pulling herself together even if it's a little bit where she finally makes a decision about telling Kanai how she feels and Mugi likewise, but will it end that cleanly, and Mugi likewise with Akane. I'll tell you what I think. Akane is obviously out to steal everything from Hanabi in terms of romance, I don't know if she notices Ecchan pursing Hanabi or maybe she doesn't care since she is a girl, but what is probably going to happen is that she isn't just going to flat out reject Mugi since he is a part of Hanabi's love life now. It's certain she isn't going to let him out unscathed, in this case Hanabi will gain some clarity from a touching moment from expressing herself to Kanai then realises she isn't such a dark person and starts pursuing Mugi. This is where is starts to wrap up the anime because I don't think Kanai is completely wrapped around Akane's finger which is why she has sex with him in the first place; because he says Hana-chan beforehand, which pisses Akane off. After this Hanabi will realise she isn't alone and is nothing like Akane made her out to be, with her unrequited love between someone she has known at childhood and grow up with(Kanai)they will remain close but not intimate, which will be the exact same between what we just saw between Mugi and Moka, where Mugi couldn't go further where the memories of them in the theatre were in the background and Moka walked out started playing. Then it will just be Mugi and Hanabi together, and Akane won't have Mugi nor Kanai's love and will fade out to the background. I don't fully understand what will happen to Ecchan though, she might stay friends with Hanabi or there will be a long conversation between her and Hanabi where they tell each other how they really feel etc, and that Hana can't cross boundaries with her as that wouldn't make them friends anymore or something like that :S |
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Tony_SansNom said: I thought they had done some research to create a character like Moka so I find it strange that everyone's saying they never cared lol. Not really. Yes he did. He helped her let go of her love for him because he knew it would only continue to hurt her. |
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| Ayase: I think calling the show "ending" is waaaaaaay premature. The manga has not concluded yet, and unless you've been spoiled, I would consider it next to impossible that you're able to predict how the various characters are going to end up. |
| They think that being properly rejected will bring closure to their feelings. Sadly, that's not how it works. Also, Akane will probably just keep playing around with Mugi instead of rejecting him |
| Man, this anime gives me chills in every moment, I'm excited to see how it ends. |
| That's right Mugi. After that slap and "No" for the hotel, you should just "do it" with Moca instead. Nothing that seems "complicated" after all. When you can't have A, just pick B instead. XD |
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| Honestly...this was the worst episode yet. So Mocoa is also a bitch with an Inner Moca being the voice of reason...what a surprise. Why do we are about her story though? Like she was irrelevant for most of the series, she gets her one episode and she'll probably be gone now. I mean I guess she was used as a way to make Mugi realize what he needs to do, but it was still a bad episode. |
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| i'm just going to c&p my reaction that i posted on tumblr: "holy fucking shit this week’s knh made me cry??? i didn’t even like moca (well, not much anyway) until this episode… shit… GOD I FEEL SO BAD FOR HER" like, this is the first time the show's made me actually cry (i've been kinda glassy eyed before but never cried) and i'm surprised it's over moca of all people, lol. i think part of it was helped by the background music. i've said it before but mannnnn i'm in love with this ost! the scene earlier on with mc (forgive me, i'm terrible with names lmfao) on the bridge almost got me to cry too, bc #SHIT do i relate anyway... really, really good episode. might even be my favourite, or close to it. |
Seolin said: glad moca's time in the spotlight is done and over with, she's got the most unrelatable background in this whole series being that her reason for loving mugi isn't even justifiable, but i guess thats anime characterization for you hanabi x mugi is most interesting to watch, hopefully they can get their hands clean after confessing and start off with a blank slate again So, is it over for her? She's not appearing anymore? That's kind of a bummer, I though she was going to get more involved with the story but oh well. |
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| It was nice to get some more development on Moca this episode, but it definitely feels like it's been dealt with quickly and efficiently. After all, it's far too obvious that Moca has placed way too much value in her relationship with Mugi and that it would only eventually hurt her: while I don't really agree with how he got her there, Mugi has tried to let her off in such a way as to allow both of them to come to terms with their feelings and hopefully move on. Mind you, as another poster said above, a rejection won't necessarily provide closure, so I'm sure this isn't the last we've seen of Moca, especially considering how long she had a crush on Mugi for. |
| At the bright side...... we got to see Moca do that..... and be in that position....... XD That was HOT!!!!!! I was screaming like some fan girl XD lols And FUCKING FINALLY!!! I kept saying that from the start for them to do that! But of course something Juicy will happen! And Hanabi is still my least liked female character in the anime. I ship Mugi with everyone except her! |
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| Moca was pretty cute. Felt bad for her :( I don't know if characters feel conflicted or not but they sure doesn't hold back to change their stance on the feelings every time. They don't stand firm with their dialogues and decisions. "I already knew that I'm *this* or *that*. Blah blah blah. BLAH BLAH BLAH!" "The truth is, I'm pretending. Blah blah blah. BLAH BLAH BLAH!!" "Pathetic. *Says something followed by a chuckle* Blah blah blah. BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!" Oh man XD |
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| I love Moca so much. She is so cute and pure |
| Even though this episode focused on Moca, I still find it hard to sympathize with her. Her whole princess thing just doesn't really click with me. Well, at least Mugi and Hanabi are finally ready to confess their feelings. |
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| Very interesting. Moca is actually one of the most likeable characters to me, at least in the sense that I feel the most pity for her. And I don't think she has done anything wrong to deserve that kind of torment. But at the very least, she got part of what she wanted, but much like Hanabi, she realizes it's not exactly what she wanted. I'm a little concerned with Mugi. Not sure if he was too much a coward to shoot down Moca or if this was a genuine moment of confusion where he wanted to find out if he could really love her. |
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| Could the main characters confess , get rejected then start dating for real.Nope.Still don't give a damn about others especially Moca. |
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| Ah, Moca. You flew too close to the sun and realized it was best you didn't have it. This show keeps on slaying and damn, the OST in this ep was amazing. |
Kittens-kun said: Tony_SansNom said: I thought they had done some research to create a character like Moka so I find it strange that everyone's saying they never cared lol. Not really. Yes he did. He helped her let go of her love for him because he knew it would only continue to hurt her. This is what ended up happening, not necessarily what he tried/wanted. He even says so himself. |
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| I'm going to pretend that this is Hanabi and Mugi making some personal progress, rather than them just returning to who we thought they were a few episodes ago. As for Moca, I don't really have an issue with her. She's cute and it seemed like she just really liked Mugi, but the 'mental microphone', as some people called it, did give a little insight to that - as in, she's not as pure as we were lead to believe. She started out as a bratty, yet good girl, but she's just as bad as everyone else. She'll sacrifice herself as long as she can create the memory she sees fit. All about appearances. |
Tony_SansNom said: Kittens-kun said: Yes he did. He helped her let go of her love for him because he knew it would only continue to hurt her. This is what ended up happening, not necessarily what he tried/wanted. He even says so himself. The end result is what matters. |
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| Our pure cinnamon roll isn't as pure we expected! I need to get a hold of the soundtrack once it's released. |
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okayremus said: Moca, I am so so sorry that I used to think you were annoying. ...but she still is. What made you change your mind? |
Inugirlz said: okayremus said: Moca, I am so so sorry that I used to think you were annoying. ...but she still is. What made you change your mind? Inugirlz said: okayremus said: Moca, I am so so sorry that I used to think you were annoying. ...but she still is. What made you change your mind? She's annoying to people because she is the only person in this series who isn't scum. She's a brat, yes, but she is the ONLY person here who knows herself. And she is the ONLY girl who has enough self-love and self-respect to know that she deserves better than community-dck Mugi and a half-baked romance. This episode was so real. She wanted to be like the other girls, out of control and stupid because nothing mattered more than love, but once she got on that bed and realized that even going THIS far will not fulfill you (the way Akane makes it seem), she accepted that and walked away. Like a real boss, she cut those emotional ties and took that L. I think that is so mature of her. I think in the real world, any self appreciating girl should want to be Moca. Dress for yourself, love yourself, and treat yourself like a princess even if you don't have a prince. I think if anyone deserves a happy ending here, it's Moca. |
| That date was weird lol she wasn't even happy at all, at least Mugi knew where to stop and i think that Moca learned a few things too. From that ending, i think that Hanabi finally learned a few lessons ;) So maybe it's now? The New Hope(last one)???? #DontDisappointUsHanabi |
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| props for making an episode centered around two characters I dislike entertaining still |
Machination said: At the bright side...... we got to see Moca do that..... and be in that position....... Agreeeeeeed, I love the way this anime doesn't hold back with any of the ecchi, lmao. Moca to me is like dragging someone's fingernails against a chalkboard, she looks cute but I can't relate to her at all, plus her voice is really annoying. I don't know what else she expected from going on a date with Mugi. Honestly, this episode just seemed like a filler, I don't care what happens between Moca and Mugi, she was just a hopeless pet who followed him around. Tbh I'm rooting for Mugi and Hanabi, although I can't seem to put a finger on what their feelings are for one another. I think Kanai's too far in with bitch-sensei, especially after they've had sex, and she's not going to let Mugi go so easily. I've also noticed that not a lot of people like Hanabi? Honestly she's my favorite in the show, despite being scummy with the way she played with Ecchan, though isn't she doing exactly what that man did to her on the train to Hanabi? Idk, I didn't not like this episode, I hope Hanabi is done with that disgusting student guy. |
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| This episode was somewhat uneventful in my opinion. I feel like Moca is only a secondary character. She isn't present most of the time, so I sometimes forget she's even involved in this messed up love circle. Although I'm surprised Mugi went as far as he did with her. The end of the episode seems promising though. |
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Like some said in this thread already, while I'm not a fan of Moca this episode gave her some good characterization. ^ThisI wonder if they're going to confess in the next episode |
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| am i the only one who finds this anime mildly boring |
Inugirlz said: okayremus said: Moca, I am so so sorry that I used to think you were annoying. ...but she still is. What made you change your mind? Seeing more of her backstory and motivations did. Good characterisation makes all the difference in the world. The fact that her entire persona was just an act she put up to "manipulate" the people around her to her benefit, and the fact that she never actually loved Mugi, only the princely-fantasy of him that had been in her head since she was a child was something that compelled me a lot. As the fantasy of Mugi crumpled before her, she set out to make one last memory to treasure forever, but finding out halfway that she'd rather self-destruct and tear down her princess-persona because she felt lethargic is one of the best developments I've seen in a character like her. Her plot-line so far just felt very much like something that could very easily happen in real life (although, as with most fiction, it was dramatised quite a lot). |
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| damn I start to hate every damn bed scene that they cry like immature bitches..its getting annoying..also moca's arc was so uninteresting..so basically she has the idea of a princess..she was having the illusion of the perfect girl that would find her prince mugi and live a happy life but when she kissed him she realised she became woman and that she cant continue this dream...well thats all bulshit...also fuck hanabi..this girl is dipolic as fk..from one side she wants to be desired ny men..she wants everyone to like her and want her just to feel worthy but on the other side she wants to date mugi and chases him so badly? im glad that mugi will never fall for her nor for moca..I miss akane..akane should be the one for him..and where is she for 2 episodes now?? |
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2towers1plane said: am i the only one who finds this anime mildly boring You are not alone. It's one hell of a mess with characters you not care about just wanting to screw one another. As manga reader, without spoilers I can say it's just getting progressively worse over time where every one character gets as unlikeable as possible. |
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VersoSciolto said: Mugi did not know where to stop. His timing was horrible prior to that date invitation but at the very latest it was horrible from the moment he "mischievously" invited her for this particular date and then went through with it - but not to its conclusion - when Moca accepted...... Damn, thanks for this awesome answer. You're right, but i mean to say that Mugi knew where to stop before hurting her even more, he realized that he never saw her as a girl that loves him. Moca didn't find anything new but she realized how stupid their date was, and maybe she will stop "following" Mugi? It will get interesting, i really hope that we won't get na retarded ending. |
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| Wow Moca sure fucked up this episode these type of girls are just so boring I despise them, finally they are going to confess. |
| Moca is spoiled but i still feel bad for her. I like her mindset though, never try to go for a replacement. You best move on, don;t want a fake relationship. Though she still pretty much caved in. Mugi turns out less of a @$$ compared to the previous episode. Hanabi finally going to confess. Good for her! Rooting for her. Hopefully it goes well. It is about time tbh. And I like how Hanabi can only trust Mugi at this point. Yea just ignore Ecchan, she's a B***h |
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| This was the best episode in awhile. Hanabi realizing the soul crushing loneliness that Akane feels. And once again accepting she has no just friends left. And Moca and Mugi's date which did a lot to deepen the former character. Moca's kind of been pushed to the side for awhile now. But here we finally get a good handle on how she sees the world. The ways in which she's selfish scum with a wish. And what exactly has her feeling so lonely. I.E. that she can only use her cuteness to get what she wants. But its created a situation where Mugi only sees her as a cute ornamental object. To be admired as something special, but never touched, never treated on the same level. Interesting stuff there. And since she seems very much in the supporting realm. I'm glad her arc seems to have run its course. She's realized she can't be happy with Mugi. Good for her. I'm also a little excited by the ending teaser that Hanabi and Mugi will confess and get rejected soon. |
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