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| I thought "thank you for letting me die as a human" was emotionally impactful enough..... and then they hit us with that after credits scene. I wanna cry man. That was the definition of bittersweet. |
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| What a series of unfortunate events. The white jackets were basically the bad guys. Framing the Immortal Order to be even more evil than they are which is just false. Then the white jackets formed a riot to charge into the immortal order building. I feel so bad for Dr. Usami. He tried his absolute best to prolong his patient's disease but did not want to see her suffer any longer. He wanted Maru to use his touch to put down his patient and end her suffering for good. At least she was able to see the sky for the last time and cherish her last moment with the doctor. What hurts the most was that Dr. Usami shot himself at the rooftop. Basically passing away with his patient laying beside him. Very gloomy episode. |
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| Damn it man, another suicide episode in recent days, the world gotta be trolling me right now. Very powerful final scene, that body language from the doctor was a nice touch. |
| dr usami is so romantic, i cried during this episode |
Zadion said: Even Jigokuraku is sad this week. Best episode of that series too. (though the animation is a bit lacking compare to Heavenly delusion here.)goddamn... that was powerful. It was obvious the moment the girl died, Usami had no further reason to live. remarkably beautiful, poignant episode, and probably the best of the series. I'm grateful for these episode discussion threads; without them, my two brain cells would not have pieced together the connections between, for example the ending sequence to this episode & the earlier events, or how anything in the facility is connected with the rest of the series. between this and Oshi no Ko, it's been a sad fucking week for anime. We've been thrown a lot of tear gas this week. |
| What a sad episode. Dr Usami really gave it all for the one he cared for, and when she left this world so did he. Mimihime not remembering why she was so happy is okay, it was a pretty bittersweet moment! |
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Ventus_S said: yup, I just finished Jigokuraku. I did not expect today to be so emotionally draining. Thankfully I still have Loving Yamada as a palette cleanser.Zadion said: Even Jigokuraku is sad this week. Best episode of that series too. (though the animation is a bit lacking compare to Heavenly delusion here.)goddamn... that was powerful. It was obvious the moment the girl died, Usami had no further reason to live. remarkably beautiful, poignant episode, and probably the best of the series. I'm grateful for these episode discussion threads; without them, my two brain cells would not have pieced together the connections between, for example the ending sequence to this episode & the earlier events, or how anything in the facility is connected with the rest of the series. between this and Oshi no Ko, it's been a sad fucking week for anime. We've been thrown a lot of tear gas this week. |
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| the woman from ep 1 was right about her son Afterall |
| Many shows expect you to care about characters that appear for one or at most two episodes. If they want to do that, they should learn from this week's Tengoku Daimakyou episode about how it should be done. The drama from these two characters (Usami and her dying patient) was really intense despite their appearance only during a few episodes. |
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TitanOfPlasma said: Many shows expect you to care about characters that appear for one or at most two episodes. If they want to do that, they should learn from this week's Tengoku Daimakyou episode about how it should be done. The drama from these two characters (Usami and her dying patient) was really intense despite their appearance only during a few episodes. And Oshi no Ko ep6 too. That girl only have screentime of about 1 episode too. |
Well anime-only people reaction don't seem to agree with your analysis, the emotion seem to go through allright. Anime and manga writing is not the same. You can go back and forth easily in a manga, anime storytelling needs to be a bit more streamlined. As a manga reader, I think that the adaptation makes sense for an anime and was not bothered by it. This is what "adaptation" is about. |
rvdboomMay 21, 2023 1:52 AM
| What a great episode that was, actually making me care about two characters merely introduced for this episode, it was really powerful until the end, might be my favourite episode of the anime with the pilot, Didn't care much for the post credit scene tho, might lead to something interesting who knows. This is a very inconsistant anime for me, i'd say i didn't like around half of the episodes but episodes like this week had are why i'm sticking around for sure. |
ropielMay 21, 2023 2:04 AM
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| The stone guy ... that almost felt like it was planned. It did not seem like the leader was day instantly? I guess the subordinate wanted to take control and used that to incite the other people and to take over control. Guy that threw the first stone must have been involved as well. Just very convenient that the guy that attacked back ... actually hit the leader. But they will get punished by that monster still alive later. (Which we won't get to see snice the plot will focus on other stuff with the main duo moving to the next location.) I cared more about the Doc and the girl than about a certain female side char in another anime this season (about Vikings). ;) Shows how you still can include minor chars and make people char about them. |
| What an episode, both beautiful for how they managed to see her the sky one last time before dying but also extremely disturbing for the whole machine/blood environment and obviously that end with Usami killing himself with the corpse of the girl... damn. But then it means Mimihime we see at the end was indeed the one that died... things are starting to make more and more sense even though the two different timelines are still mysterious |
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| Damn ninjas cutting onions! |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Damn so it was a misunderstanding and Usami was actually trying to save that girl to no avail, to keep her as human. Usami looked so stoic all the time and when he cried because of the girl thanking him, I also cried. Maru helped her to die as human, but seeing Usami take his own life too made Maru think that he caused Usami to die too. I wonder what the girl in the end dreamed about? |
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| man, this was a heavy episode ╯︿╰ |
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descend2 said: Yeah, after watching couple of reaction videos on YouTube I guess you're right.It was not obvious for a lot of people, don't worry. |
| Best episode by far. Feels sad for Dr Usami. |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: Reality being most weekly average anime audience need everything spell out for them word to word with extremally long inner monologues and detail explanation of every scenario. descend2 said: Yeah, after watching couple of reaction videos on YouTube I guess you're right.It was not obvious for a lot of people, don't worry. That's why Demon Slayer is so highly rated by the average Joes. |
| Another Depressing Episode this week after Oshi no Ko. God damn it. Wait a minute, that end credit scene might be a huge hint to the plot. Pay attention to their eyes, that's the biggest hint. I think that girl Hoshio is Mimihime and Doctor Usami must be Shiro. Because as we know that Mimihime can see the future from her dream. So it's almost a confirmation that event from the facility are from the past. |
davidyodo24May 21, 2023 5:26 AM
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| fuk damn shit !! this is so sad .. !! |
| the poor doctor, even though he did inhuman things with the people, at least he got an end with his beloved. |
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| well that was a tearjerker of an episode first the girl then the doctor damn |
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| Nice episode, I didn't really pay enough attention throughout the show to understand this without spoilers though, so I did read them |
| This is quite an emotional episode 10/10 |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: it's actually frustrating lol they get so close and miss the mark every time. descend2 said: Yeah, after watching couple of reaction videos on YouTube I guess you're right.It was not obvious for a lot of people, don't worry. |
| The episode wasn't perfect but it was almost good, I disliked the amount of focus and effort put in killing the sick girl to make us feel pain, like if somebody with a bit of reason will care about a 1 episode NPC, though combined with the suicide scene, it makes a decent after punch. Still makes me sad that I.G took this level of production for a so far mediocre show like this when there are better quality mangas out there that deserve an adaptation of this quality, just a waste of resources if you ask me. And yes, killing the NPC is a very cheap trick that works in sentimental weaklings, wannabe's and the pseudos, that's the same people who get struck by episodes from subpar shows like Mushishit, Natsume, Kino no Tabi (the worse one), SnL, etc... The specialists about this topic know what I'm talking about, that weird fixation of the wannabe's. On the other hand, the show is getting more interesting and taking itself more seriously in the couple of last episodes, the plot is moving a bit more clearly and some important information has been confirmed, it doesn't feel anymore like your usual mediocre Girl's Last Tour and alike SoL, sadly I think we will back to the teenager melodrama of "Paradise" and thus the quality will drop, yet I really hope the show follows this path and matures into a more adult version of himself, anyways 7.1/10. PD: The suicide scene was destroyed by Maru stupid whining, it was pathetic. Even if the girl is Mimihime, there is not any emotional attachment yet, she is still a NPC. |
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