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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Man lawers are annoying >__> Serves him them right. |
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| Gives a more in-depth look at Togusa's character. He is really an idealist and believes in the course of the law. He is a very righteous man indeed, a straight arrow and incorruptible. Togusa: "how can the victim's soul rest in peace if there is no justice?" Aramaki: "maybe Divine Retribution will provide the justice you seek" Togusa: "huh?!" |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| Also, is it just me but I was really annoyed at the way the characters were drawn! I know it anime but they look to animeish with the Major having such a big head and super big eyes! Yup, some episodes suffered from that! |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| Ya i notice the animation changing pace every episode or so and it gets really annoying. The animation of Motoko's eyes werent of that boldness and anime-esque compared to the last episode but on episode 8 i believe it had the same animation. I believe the consistency of this series is off-put compared to the first series. I really don't like how Motoko's character design is in this series. It really puts you off when your trying to watch it and realizing the animation is gone to the crappers once again. I don't know but thats how i feel. |
makezh22 said: Ya i notice the animation changing pace every episode or so and it gets really annoying. The animation of Motoko's eyes werent of that boldness and anime-esque compared to the last episode but on episode 8 i believe it had the same animation. I believe the consistency of this series is off-put compared to the first series. I really don't like how Motoko's character design is in this series. It really puts you off when your trying to watch it and realizing the animation is gone to the crappers once again. I don't know but thats how i feel. True, the animation consistency is my only beef with GiTS 2nd Gig, other than that it was all good for me. With the first season you get beautifully drawn and consistent animation but honestly, I hated the Major's "hooker" outfit in that season. It just doesn't seem right. |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| I really enjoyed this episode. Togusa continues to be a great and interesting character. |
Leibstandarte said: With the first season you get beautifully drawn and consistent animation but honestly, I hated the Major's "hooker" outfit in that season. It just doesn't seem right. I agree with that, it just didn't fit with her character at all IMO. After getting this far into both series, I really like Togusa and Batou the most. |
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| I like Major's outfit of this season better too. But it feels like, there are different animators for each episode, indeed. That's especially obvious on Major's face drawing. Anyway, uhh, how did actually Major made Togusa say those things in the end in the court? I thought Togusa was natural and so he has no cyberbrain for her to hack... |
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kodial said: I like Major's outfit of this season better too. But it feels like, there are different animators for each episode, indeed. That's especially obvious on Major's face drawing. Anyway, uhh, how did actually Major made Togusa say those things in the end in the court? I thought Togusa was natural and so he has no cyberbrain for her to hack... He is part cyberbrain, but his body is all human. |
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| Hmmm thank god i didn't become a lawyer like mom told me to Lol, i hate them ass' Have to say Togusa has become one of my favorites from GitS, his character development is pretty good. And yeah animation seems to have dropped from the 1st episode :\ And indeed i too like Major's dress in this season much more, the dress in the last season was just not right =-= |
aero said: Man lawers are annoying >__> Serves him them right. I really hate courts and lawyers in shows / movies like this. They are always portrayed as being corrupt and such, and I hate corruption in the 'justice' systems. |
| Why didn't Togusa disarm that guy? :S |
Leibstandarte said: Togusa: "how can the victim's soul rest in peace if there is no justice?" Aramaki: "maybe Divine Retribution will provide the justice you seek" Togusa: "huh?!" Loved that part. What an episode, I like Togusa's character a lot. |
soumi77 said: Hey guys.... Was just wondering about the last scene of the episode .... Bomer handing in the car keys .... Was discussing the scene with a friend and we were like- wow - Bomer did that I said - Under someone's instructions obviously He said : under whose? Aramaki? I said - No. I'm guessing under Motoko's So anyways - what does everyone else think about Bomer's delibrate accident? or am I interpreting this wrongly? I knwo it's up to everyone's own interpretation, but would like to know what other's think about it. Thx xoxo It's very likely that it was under Aramaki's orders since he did give a pretty blatant hint with that "There might be divine retribution" line right before the scene with Boma. |
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soumi77 said: Hey guys.... Was just wondering about the last scene of the episode .... Bomer handing in the car keys .... Was discussing the scene with a friend and we were like- wow - Bomer did that I said - Under someone's instructions obviously He said : under whose? Aramaki? I said - No. I'm guessing under Motoko's So anyways - what does everyone else think about Bomer's delibrate accident? or am I interpreting this wrongly? I knwo it's up to everyone's own interpretation, but would like to know what other's think about it. Thx xoxo I simply laughed heartily hearing the news. UwU |
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| Man Togusa once again xD Anyway, great episode, I highly enjoy tribunal and lawyer thrillers and this one was pretty well-made. Togusa is probably the best character in GitS. |
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Leibstandarte said: Also, is it just me but I was really annoyed at the way the characters were drawn! I know it anime but they look to animeish with the Major having such a big head and super big eyes! Yup, some episodes suffered from that! don't know why you complaining about those anime eyes. there's nothing wrong with them, i don't think it's bad at all. heck she had a more barbie face in the first season but i didn't complain since i was hook with the show and had no way affecting the animation. though i do like the animation of the first, second and 9th episode. since she looks amazing with her serious look. they probably are saving the best for "Dual" episodes. damn lawyers are assholes and i definitely wanted to punch that guy's face sooo bad. i also like how Togusa chose the side arm since it doesn't jam easily and is quick to use. plus he knows more about prosthetic people since during the stand alone episodes you see him dealing with prosthetics everyday. and yeah the whole section 9 besides Togusa uses automatic weapons :P Major actually gave him some classified information about the lawyer at the end when she closes her eye??? i was surprised if Togusa said he will quit Section 9. and we all knw what happens when Section 9 got disbanded :P and damn the gouda guy giving the lawyer some classified information like the recent bombings and how togusa was involve with the suicide girl last episode. i never knew that the Kusunoki guy(sitting in the courtroom) was actually the same guy in the TV report in the finale episode of the first season. saying how he busted Yakushima and has taken credit of taking all the sources Section 9 had put in those 3 months of investigation. it made Togusa mad and went to the scene to kill him, but was stopped by batou and the rest you probably know :P kinda funny we see him once more against Togusa XD and about the "divine retribution" i think aramaki sent bormer to do the job. i mean why would he want to lose the car and the paper works?? also the car right front wheel is damage and scrapped so yeah he's probably responsible with that XD the lawyer and the suspect deserves it :P im glad togusa paid respects with the victim. it just shows you how caring he is. also did togusa's wife became fat or something O_O all in all i freaking love it, definitely love the small subtle references from past episodes and season. btw i also like Major's new black cape outfit. fits her soo perfectly!!!! the first season was also good(and sexy btw) but the new look brings her to a whole new level O_____O |
SomaHeirJan 13, 2012 8:55 PM
| Togusa should of had disarmed him. Stupid move on his part. |
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| I grinned at the end. Have to praise poetic justice for that. Corruption sucks, and Gohda needs to stop pissing me off. :/ |
| Haha, divine retribution indeed. |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
| Nice episode... but i hope togusa will not quit for real.. i just want to punch that attorney! |
| Damn lawyers. I liked Togusa in this episode. To bad he didn't shoot the guy dead on the spot. |
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| Those lawyers.. |
Stark700Jan 2, 2013 5:12 PM
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| Rather boring side story actually. A court case... meh this has barley anything to do with the actual case... |
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| Dem eyes, they irked me o-o Nevertheless, I really liked this episode. |
| Powerful eyebrows. |
| It was a good episode for Togusa's character development. And i noticed that Togusa's son has grown quite a lot. If you check the episode 14 of the first season then you'll know what i mean. Can't wait to see a complex episode. |
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| I can't believe Togusa would make that kind of mistake. Who in his right mind would leave such guy with a gun in his hand? It's not like he had to immediately check on her instead of disarming and restraining that guy. It's looks like a cheap plot device. |
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| Wow... can't believe he had to go through all of that -.- No more justice... |
| Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel.- Tifa lockhart Which is it? A memory or us? -Tifa lockhart |
| ”だが、天罰は下るかもしれん。” NEVER mess with Section 9! Really liked how Borma just swagged in the end. GREAT episode. Just liked how stupid the lawyer was dealing with his proceedings, asking extremely irrelevant questions, just like some madman. |
| "If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria Just kidding.  |
| funny that every character has kiddy voice in this episode, Major sounds like a little girl^^ even the ED song is different |
| Yay, I love trial :P I've always been fascinated with defense lawyer, siding for the neglected clan. That attorney was good and persuasive, even if in the end he was a corrupted bastard. That criminal was also a scumbag. He had no reason to shoot the victim after he was pinned down. Togusa made an error though by not having taken away his gun. He may have felt guilty of that too. The sneaky Major... Getting into people heads xD |
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minouneetzoe said: That criminal was also a scumbag. He had no reason to shoot the victim after he was pinned down. Togusa made an error though by not having taken away his gun. He may have felt guilty of that too. Agreed, it was quite stupid of Togusa to not disarm the guy, I'm sure he felt very guilty because of that. But yeah that guy sure was a scumbag, I wish Togusa would have just put a bullet in his head :/. Honestly how could anyone have believed that bogus story of it being an accident when the defendant had that big smug douchy smile on his face the entire trial. Alll they had to do was look at his face to tell he was guilty lol. I'm glad they both got what was coming to them in the end though :P. |
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| 5/5 It seems like a stand-alone episode, but after a while the plot makes sense that there is a link between the previous episodes, the silent war between Gouda and S9 starts. Not bad designs, but they have so many ups and downs, the costume design of the higher Fixed sorting admit it was me. Narration and excellent OST. Justice and made ââeven if the manner of Aramaki and Togusa that he believed. Another episode dedicated to him, increasingly characterized our Togusa. |
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| I'm somewhat with Bartisaur on how Togusa acts. He does quite a lot of mistakes, even dumb mistakes for a member who is supposed to be in a elite group. What episode it was when he went to take the file from the Sun(forgot the whole name) group in season 1, I still wonder why he didn't call for any backup at all. This ep. he didn't disarm the suspect. However, the suspect served as a plot device as to show how Gohda is trying to stall or set up Section 9, by using various methods and people. People seem to hate Gohda, but I find him quite an interesting character. I also would like to see more character development on Borma, Paz, Saito and Ishikawa, altho we see Ishikawa often, but they mostly focus on Batou, Motoko, Togusa and Aramaki. Edit; Oh, and I like that there is less "fan-service" done to Motoko's clothing style. It was kinda annoying to watch that almost wholly revealing clothing she had in SAC. |
ourielJan 31, 2015 11:11 AM
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| Why didn't Togusa remove the weapon from that guy? Feels like they made him intentionally stupid and ignore everything his training tells him to do just for the sake of a court episode lol. |
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| Damn Amaraki! You cold, I'm pretty baffled Section 9 is carrying out assassination like this! I don't have a problem with Togusa, he's the "human" of Section 9 :p an idealistic and flawed one but the most human, compared to him the others really are more like robots. |
| Although I love Ghost in the Shell, this was a horribly written episode. That's not how a court of law works, especially in Japan. The premise was a giant "coincidental" fart as well. Reasoning is very flawed. I've seen better bullshit and I had to do a research paper on George Zimmerman's defense. |
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| Goddamn that trial was full of bullshit, that lawyer was transparent as fuck in his trollishness. Killing the dude was rather harsh but since he was never going to see his day in a legitimate court.... |
gedataMay 1, 2015 6:16 PM
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| Finally. I enjoy these episodic interludes much more than those unappealing main storylines. The character development, themes and uniqueness displayed in these episodes are the real strong point of the series, imo. This wasn't a particularly brilliant episode, but this second season itself is pretty dull. BlueScarf said: Although I love Ghost in the Shell, this was a horribly written episode. That's not how a court of law works, especially in Japan. The premise was a giant "coincidental" fart as well. Reasoning is very flawed. I've seen better bullshit and I had to do a research paper on George Zimmerman's defense. Actually the rest of gits episodes aren't better than this episode, from that point of view. They're full of political and strategic blabbering. Nicely crafted, indeed, but still blabberig. |
RafaelDeJongh said: Rather boring side story actually. A court case... meh this has barley anything to do with the actual case... It wasn't boring at all I think earlier episodes were boring So I wasn't the only one who hated the "hooker" outfit in the first season good to know |
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| This is why Togusa needs more screen time. One of the best characters. |
| Wait wait wait, did they kill these two guys in the end? Or did I misunderstand something here? :o |
| What a shitty lawyer.. Work environment? Surrounded? Cyborgs? Inferiority? Pretty sure I realized that lawyer isn't that smart xD "Hey, you're a teacher surrounded by students.. Now you feel inferior.. You want to kill them, right?" Nice.. Lawyer.. nice :P The ending just left Togusa's justice into nothing.. I like how they made it into "accident" too.. Just like the lawyer said, "it's accident" xD Well at I hope those two are happy together now :P |
Rayl1ghtOct 6, 2016 8:07 AM
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| "So you people better realize what you're getting yourselves into." -cues music- But did Borma seriously just... run them over? Eh I'm a little conflicted about that. |
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