As I've consumed anime/manga over the past two years, I've noticed that the ending seems to be the most challenging part to nail for most creators. Whether they get through most of the story, aren't satisfied with the direction and pivot or the "ending" they had in mind becomes the middle of the story, and it starts dragging, it just feels like endings are what I dread most because they tend to underdeliver for me. Another aspect of this is exactly what you said, some creators are just better at micro-narrative storytelling but for some reason or another decide to up the ante.
I was actually going to buy the physical volumes of Eden and consume it that way, but after seeing how part of it didn't get printed, and the price of the available volumes, I just decided to read it online. It's funny you say it's fitting how the volumes trail off with the part of the story you found less interesting because I was also thinking after I read it, "it sucks that it's not all printed, but at least I could buy the volumes that I really enjoyed."
Yeah your forum post was from 8 years ago so I was half expecting you to not remember/feel the same about everything you wrote, but when I saw it, I just felt like I had to tell you how much it resonated with me.
I had just finished reading part 1 of Chainsaw Man before reading Eden and I couldn't help but see some similarities between Denji's and Elijah's relationships/longing for affection from the various women they meet throughout their stories (obviously they explore these very differently). When I read the Helena scene, I also noted how similar it felt to the Makima train scene.
I think the reason I feel so letdown about the low points in Eden is probably due to how great so many other moments were. I feel like the original closure virus, how the world was recovering from it, and Elijah finding his role in life (finding other people/dealing with his family) was enough to carry the story (why I enjoyed the first part so much more) and the sudden deaths just got redundant at a certain point. Definitely felt like the disclosure virus was introduced because the mangaka felt like he had to expand and make the story grander due to all the Gnosticism symbolism.
That said (sounds like I'm shitting on it but I really do love a lot of it), so many moments are just stuck in my head and I think this will be one of those stories I don't ever forget about. Wow, this got longwinded, but I really wanted to at least put some of my thoughts into writing.
hey, I just finished Eden: It's an Endless World and saw your thoughts on it in the final chapter discussion. you put almost all my feelings about the manga into words so nicely! Helena and Elijah got so much development during the first half and then it just got shafted during that timeskip (and for no real reason!). really sucked away my enjoyment. feel like the scale just got too big, but it had some amazing moments!
I did it. I remembered my AOL password from fifteen years ago. Now I can continue my offensive rating system, on a public site, unabated. Good bye myanimelist.xls
really liked your insight on stand alone complex season 2 on the discussion forums. you really saw every detail and highlighted some things I missed. thank you.
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I was actually going to buy the physical volumes of Eden and consume it that way, but after seeing how part of it didn't get printed, and the price of the available volumes, I just decided to read it online. It's funny you say it's fitting how the volumes trail off with the part of the story you found less interesting because I was also thinking after I read it, "it sucks that it's not all printed, but at least I could buy the volumes that I really enjoyed."
I had just finished reading part 1 of Chainsaw Man before reading Eden and I couldn't help but see some similarities between Denji's and Elijah's relationships/longing for affection from the various women they meet throughout their stories (obviously they explore these very differently). When I read the Helena scene, I also noted how similar it felt to the Makima train scene.
I think the reason I feel so letdown about the low points in Eden is probably due to how great so many other moments were. I feel like the original closure virus, how the world was recovering from it, and Elijah finding his role in life (finding other people/dealing with his family) was enough to carry the story (why I enjoyed the first part so much more) and the sudden deaths just got redundant at a certain point. Definitely felt like the disclosure virus was introduced because the mangaka felt like he had to expand and make the story grander due to all the Gnosticism symbolism.
That said (sounds like I'm shitting on it but I really do love a lot of it), so many moments are just stuck in my head and I think this will be one of those stories I don't ever forget about. Wow, this got longwinded, but I really wanted to at least put some of my thoughts into writing.
Happy belated. I don't remember your birth because it's the same day as my sister, and I hate her.