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Jul 12, 2024 10:52 AM
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It should've been obvious before but Haga and Nikola are now official traveling companions. Between the two, it seems Haga is always on the guard and overly cautious about just everything.

Still, I think both of their skills can compliment each other. Imo, this has a very classic adventure vibe not just by the storytelling style and themes, but also how these two adventurers deal with problems together.
Jul 12, 2024 11:41 AM
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Then trapped but can do anything, now still trapped, but in an endless less void. What a fate.
Jul 12, 2024 11:46 AM
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Haga and Nikola are the perfect traveling companions for each other I love the dynamic they already have.
Jul 12, 2024 12:05 PM
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I'm sorry Haga but you shouldn't concern about debugging stuffs when you're trapped in the video game.
Jul 12, 2024 12:26 PM
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Why does every other anime need a villain whose motivation makes no fucking sense whatsoever?
Jul 12, 2024 1:33 PM
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Why does every other anime need a villain whose motivation makes no fucking sense whatsoever?
@felixsifuri Honestly, the motivation checks out to me. They've been stuck for a year. Haga copes by being a workaholic and convincing himself there's a light at the end of the tunnel, the city crew have kind of cracked their sanity playing on god-mode. It's not the most compelling motive out there, but it checks out enough.


In any case, I'm still finding the show weirdly engaging, though I'm still not convinced whether it will follow through to a decent payoff.
Jul 12, 2024 1:36 PM
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Falling into the void is a fitting punishment for major NPC rights violation and for slacking on the "job". What goes around comes around.

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Jul 12, 2024 1:39 PM
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I’m really liking this show through the first two episodes. I’m looking forward to Haga and Nikola finding his friends because they’re going to need them against the group that’s power trippin.
Jul 12, 2024 1:43 PM
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This is surprisingly realistic!
If debuggers were trapped in a game with access to debug mode, of couse some people would abuse it, while others played legit.
It makes sense that some people would continue reporting bugs; they have no obligations, so might as well do what they enjoy hoping it matters.
Obviously some people would do the stupidest thing they can think of, just to see if they can.
Factions that agree on some of the above are then a natural follow up.

My biggest question so far is what happens when a player dies. They may have mentioned and I missed it, but I have my theories.
It could work like SAO, so it would be like real life but with potential bugs and debug mode (Note: I have not watched so please no spoilers).
Or it could be like a normal a game, so they would be able to respawn (It would be like a little Shangri-La Frontier if so).
Either case could work if they handled it right.
Jul 12, 2024 1:53 PM
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This is surprisingly realistic!
If debuggers were trapped in a game with access to debug mode, of couse some people would abuse it, while others played legit.
It makes sense that some people would continue reporting bugs; they have no obligations, so might as well do what they enjoy hoping it matters.
Obviously some people would do the stupidest thing they can think of, just to see if they can.
Factions that agree on some of the above are then a natural follow up.

My biggest question so far is what happens when a player dies. They may have mentioned and I missed it, but I have my theories.
It could work like SAO, so it would be like real life but with potential bugs and debug mode (Note: I have not watched so please no spoilers).
Or it could be like a normal a game, so they would be able to respawn (It would be like a little Shangri-La Frontier if so).
Either case could work if they handled it right.
@gorkthe134th I'm interested in the player-dies question too, especially since I don't think we see his party significantly during the opening theme. I'm rather curious of whether his group will actually be where he expects them to be, and more than a little curious of whether their seeming potential absence has anything to do with his staunch debug mode stance.
Jul 12, 2024 2:08 PM

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Not too sure why those other debuggers need to attack Haga and Nikola. They could just simply leave them alone and continue going about their debauchery
Jul 12, 2024 2:33 PM

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@felixsifuri Honestly, the motivation checks out to me. They've been stuck for a year. Haga copes by being a workaholic and convincing himself there's a light at the end of the tunnel, the city crew have kind of cracked their sanity playing on god-mode. It's not the most compelling motive out there, but it checks out enough.


In any case, I'm still finding the show weirdly engaging, though I'm still not convinced whether it will follow through to a decent payoff.
@alakek Yeah, it also helps with that bit when they mentioned another group of players that decided to get together and try to "beat" the story mode like a cult, some showing their true nature, others getting the most out of it doing terrible acts or desperately trying to find a way out.
Jul 12, 2024 3:36 PM

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Honestly kind of a dumb premise, not really another world just a game, and continues to beta test/debug? Gunna have to pass on this, annoying conflict for the sake of conflict with a boring plot direction. They should edit the "about" to include that the MC is a debugger trapped in a game as that's the main plot. The current "about" is just misleading if you know nothing about the written series. Totally fine if you're enjoying it, this just isn't what I was expecting/interested in at all.
Jul 12, 2024 3:42 PM

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lol, I'm with the yellow haired dude (apart from the random killing of NPCs, wat). What a whiny preaching clown this MC is, "dOn't uSe dEbUg mOdE!" If I were in their shoes, stuck in a game for longer than a year with no way out, you best believe I would be using all the cheats XD
Jul 12, 2024 3:46 PM
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Falling outside the map forever is kinda harsh, even if the guy was a douche, nobody deserves that.

Still, most games will have a kill box if you fall too far outside the map, so he should hit that at some point and maybe respawn.

It's clear that there's some kind of reset/respawn mechanic, otherwise Nikola's village couldn't have been destroyed multiple times by that quest. Though it's not clear yet how it works, whether the whole world resets periodically or if it's local to that questline.
Jul 12, 2024 3:59 PM

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Oh man, after surprisingly well made and interesting first episode it suddenly turned into yet another crappy action "isekai" :/

Instead of getting something unique like Deca-Dence, it seems we are heading towards "summoned heroes fight each other with or without any valid reason, just because"... It is sad.











GrumbleDango said:
Not too sure why those other debuggers need to attack Haga and Nikola. They could just simply leave them alone and continue going about their debauchery

felixsifuri said:
Why does every other anime need a villain whose motivation makes no fucking sense whatsoever?

+1
Jul 12, 2024 4:25 PM

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The more I look at him, Haga really does kind of look like a Baki character.

If someone stabbed me out of nowhere, they'd immediately be on my shit list to kill, both him and the bucket head fatty. An eye for an eye, tenfold. If they means they die IRL like SAO, all the better. ...Makes no sense to me why that guy would think Haga would agree to join him after stabbing him for shits and giggles. And sure enough, they reveal themselves to be psychopaths and perverts who enjoy killing people; both NPC and other debuggers. It's only fair when what comes around, goes around.

That being said, the two guys did have a point about using debug mode in an emergency, even if it does risk creating more bugs. Although the emergency in this case is potentially being murdered by human killers.

Since they were part of a bigger group with a leader, it's safe to assume there's no shortage of more human player psychos in this world that get off of murder.

I wonder what happens if Haga gives Nikola the stolen debug stone for her own use.
Jul 12, 2024 4:38 PM

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lol, I'm with the yellow haired dude (apart from the random killing of NPCs, wat). What a whiny preaching clown this MC is, "dOn't uSe dEbUg mOdE!" If I were in their shoes, stuck in a game for longer than a year with no way out, you best believe I would be using all the cheats XD
@GakutoDeathGlare
Have you seen what happened to Sumida? That wasn't preaching, that was a fair warning.
Jul 12, 2024 4:52 PM

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The guy falling into the void gives unsavoury flashbacks to The End in Minecraft.
Jul 12, 2024 6:26 PM

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The devs sure are wild for trapping so many people in a game, hopefully it was unintentional. Other than curiosity for Nikola's backstory changing and that whole bug. I definitely had a creeping worry about what happens when they run into a major gameplay locking bug. Sumida falling into the void being a pretty good example of that. It'd really suck for him if the game just let him do that...forever.
Jul 12, 2024 7:04 PM

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Interesting.
So probably most of the debuggers are lazy at their work or not doing anything at all, and even tried of stopping their colleagues' efforts. What a weird and cruel world he is in.

Debugger hunting? Disgusting.

The guys invited him after stabbing him... crazy.
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Jul 12, 2024 7:56 PM

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Meh. Not so funny comedy with some not so new premise and whole thing is held by a weak logic. It gets one more episode and most likely a drop.
Jul 12, 2024 9:34 PM
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Not too sure why those other debuggers need to attack Haga and Nikola. They could just simply leave them alone and continue going about their debauchery
@GrumbleDango Some people are jerks that get off on hurting others. Just look at WoW's corrupted blood incident where griefers were actively decimating cities full of noobs while others were trying to save them. The people in this anime that were hunting the mcs simply put are griefers who are torturing npcs and debugger hunting/pking.
Jul 12, 2024 9:36 PM
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The plot for this show is so original and the world is so cool, why is the rating so low, a 6.5 score!? insane. Sleeper hit of the season, I'm having so much fun!

Jul 12, 2024 9:42 PM
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I had trouble getting through episode 1, but the 2nd helped hook me to continue.
Jul 12, 2024 11:59 PM
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that was way better than the first episode. was not expecting debugger on debugger violence, or for a confrontation like that to happen so soon
Jul 13, 2024 12:43 AM
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stabbing him in the stomach and saying 'it's just a prank, bro. will you join our team?' sure seems tactical.

i think the show could have explained better why they would want to attack Haga. if diligent people like Haga keep debugging and the game's all fixed which includes being trapped in the game, they won't get to live in the game anymore since it'd be considered as a bug. So, it'd be in their best interest to remove debuggers like Haga and keep making bugs by using debug mode
Jul 13, 2024 12:54 AM
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Another decent episode. Haga and Nikola are an entertaining duo.

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Jul 13, 2024 2:12 AM
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dude, he just FUCKED sumida. I'm kinda shocked that dicking around in a video game results in him deserving a fate worth than death.

I'm not saying that they aren't being assholes, but if Haga just used debug to run then it would've been fine.

Haga needs to remember that he's in a game
Jul 13, 2024 2:19 AM
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Magicmist said:
The devs sure are wild for trapping so many people in a game, hopefully it was unintentional. Other than curiosity for Nikola's backstory changing and that whole bug. I definitely had a creeping worry about what happens when they run into a major gameplay locking bug. Sumida falling into the void being a pretty good example of that. It'd really suck for him if the game just let him do that...forever.

I think the devs tried to help Haga. they can't get them out yet, but he's helping them fix bugs that might eventually solve the logout issue, so a small token of thanks is changing the girls story
Jul 13, 2024 2:22 AM
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gorkthe134th said:
This is surprisingly realistic!
If debuggers were trapped in a game with access to debug mode, of couse some people would abuse it, while others played legit.
It makes sense that some people would continue reporting bugs; they have no obligations, so might as well do what they enjoy hoping it matters.
Obviously some people would do the stupidest thing they can think of, just to see if they can.
Factions that agree on some of the above are then a natural follow up.

My biggest question so far is what happens when a player dies. They may have mentioned and I missed it, but I have my theories.
It could work like SAO, so it would be like real life but with potential bugs and debug mode (Note: I have not watched so please no spoilers).
Or it could be like a normal a game, so they would be able to respawn (It would be like a little Shangri-La Frontier if so).
Either case could work if they handled it right.

I think they just get downed according to the two who were chasing Haga this episode. they wanted to knock him out and drag the body with them. no permanent game over
Jul 13, 2024 2:28 AM
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All I want to say is the moment other players using "cheats" against me, you bet your sweet ass I will use it right back.
Jul 13, 2024 2:32 AM

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@GakutoDeathGlare
Have you seen what happened to Sumida? That wasn't preaching, that was a fair warning.
@Avvenirista Yes, but that's from the perspective of a viewer watching this show. If I was trapped for a year, I doubt I would be able to resist (depending on the actual risk chance of getting screwed while using it, tbh), and there's no way in hell I would still be doing the job I was designated to do lol...
Jul 13, 2024 4:29 AM

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Umm why didn't the MC investigate Nikola more? supposedly dead NPC changing personality and following you isn't concerning? Obviously one day this question will be addressed, BUT... I hate when in shows characters simply keep walking for hours and doing other stuff, instead of immediately talking/investigating the main issue! Like, what happened to the village? Everyone/everything resets? What if something changed due to Nikola? Why go to some random city and waste the day checking "bugged walls" when you have a bugged NPC following you! Finish one task first! I get it, Haga looks like he's attached to Nikola and may not care about the village that much, but as a diehard debugger he should've investigated the place and Nikola more, I think.

And now we met 2 new characters, one of them stabs MC for NO reason, other than to expose himself being a jerk and a villain. Lovely when someone stabs you and then asks you to join them, lol. Falling through textures is a familiar pain for experienced gamers. Must suck when you're actually in the game. Is the guy dead or stuck in the void for eternity? Hopefully the show will return to this topic.
Jul 13, 2024 4:49 AM

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Pretty rough follow up episode to the first one. Again, felt like this could easily fall and this was a lot more boring and the plot while not completely generic in its direction, came across as very boring here for the most part. Nikola needed more investigating considering the bug of her survival after the events happening last week but it just didn't happen much.
Jul 13, 2024 6:23 AM

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The show aside, games become tasteless if you use cheat (like invincible mode in FPS games).
Jul 13, 2024 8:55 AM

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@Avvenirista Yes, but that's from the perspective of a viewer watching this show. If I was trapped for a year, I doubt I would be able to resist (depending on the actual risk chance of getting screwed while using it, tbh), and there's no way in hell I would still be doing the job I was designated to do lol...
@GakutoDeathGlare
I really wanted to tackle the points you've raised but I realized that doing so would spoil you about several future events in the series so I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.
Just keep watching the show, the stuff that's bothering will be addressed very soon.
Jul 13, 2024 11:36 AM

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Armio said:
dude, he just FUCKED sumida. I'm kinda shocked that dicking around in a video game results in him deserving a fate worth than death.

I'm not saying that they aren't being assholes, but if Haga just used debug to run then it would've been fine.

Haga needs to remember that he's in a game


Yeah, but this isn't exactly just a normal video game anymore (otherwise the possibility of such consequences even existing for a person like Sumida to face wouldn't even be a thing). If we were talking about any real life game for PC, consoles, mobile/smartphone, etc. which exists on the market today then it would be a different story. Then there would be no real danger or risk from any side and people break rules for fun, troll, "vandalize" settings, etc. all the time and it's basically harmless.

But when the unwritten rules are radically changed by an event like being unable to logout and detach your consciousness from insertion into a video game's virtual world, it's fair to reason that a lot of dangerous scenarios can be created. Sumida wasn't just playing around in any normal video game, but going out of his way to potentially create real danger and risk to Haga as well (what if it was Haga instead who fell into some dangerous infinite undefined void space while being chased? A chase which didn't need to happen and wouldn't have happened but for the completely unnecessary actions of those antagonistic characters). Can't blame Haga for putting a hard stop to that.
Jul 13, 2024 4:47 PM
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haga means s****t in our language
Jul 14, 2024 5:22 AM
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Interesting second episode. Its at the very least trying to find a interesting take on the video-game isekai genre.
Jul 14, 2024 5:43 AM
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It is kind of funny that the MC is treated as a honorable person and those 2 testers as scumbags for doing their jobs or messing around in debug mode respectively. As if they weren't contractors trapped in the video game, which is a clear violation of any country's work laws and makes any signed contract null and void.
Also, as they are workers from a different company and are still following their director's instructions, MC has no say in what they should and should not do.
Lastly, they only wanted to knock him out, and he decided to stick to his work ethic (not using debug mode for easy escape) and trapping a living person in a simulation of an endless fall after taking away his means of getting out of it. They were rude and deranged but being trapped in a video game for months makes sanity slippage an understandable reaction.
This anime shouldn't be treated seriously but some (like me) may find it fun to poke holes in it, so I recommend watching it.
Jul 14, 2024 7:08 AM

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Haga is ideal corporate slave: still working 24/7 while being unpaid.
That does not mean he should do the same degenerate things as others but some common sense would be nice to have.
Jul 14, 2024 2:38 PM

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This is stupid. The people playing with debug mode just have to say "the company has imprisoned us in this game, this is a terrible crime, they need to face the full wrath of the law, we have every right to break it into smithereens to get help from the outside world". Instead they go on about how fun debauchery is and try to do something to the MC for no apparent reason just because they're designated bad guys. MC is an idiot, but the story thinks he's being somehow respectable taking up a role of slavery.
Jul 15, 2024 6:09 AM
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Im going to keep watching cause its different but I am finding it a bit boring. But Sumida being stuck just falling basically for forever is crazy. Most games have a respawn if you get stuck so he could come back. I'm confused as to why Haga is being attacked for being a debugger but maybe it will be explained in the future. Overall its okay so far
Jul 15, 2024 6:27 PM

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The blaring bagpipes during the running sequence was insane and beautiful. One of the rare moments of me watching an anime and being in awe at the soundtrack. I'm not even a fan of bagpipe music, but when incorporating in the right way, it can really enhance the score and visuals. The pipes really match the intensity and Medieval folk aesthetic. Really just had to gloat about that niche and specific detail for a second.

The idea of the one armored guy falling for eternity (due to his own negligence) is horrifically fascinating. I can understand debuggers using their "forbidden" debugging abilities...considering, being trapped in the game could be considered an emergency. But the characters' abusive and sociopathic nature definitely warrant karma.
Jul 18, 2024 5:29 AM

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I'm with others that say the antagonists don't make sense. Main thinks he'll get out eventually on some loose logic and others say screw it let's enjoy ourselves. That's fine, but what's with the stab greeting and trying to take him by force? The explanation someone gave that they want to live here and are worried debugging will ruin it kinda works but is pretty weak.

I'm also confused what happened when they won the fight. Did the main know from before that wall was broken? Our NPC sure didn't give the impression she'd seen any successful wall clipping, but otherwise him passing through too and any sort of strategy around it doesn't make sense.
Jul 18, 2024 12:56 PM

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I'm with others that say the antagonists don't make sense. Main thinks he'll get out eventually on some loose logic and others say screw it let's enjoy ourselves. That's fine, but what's with the stab greeting and trying to take him by force? The explanation someone gave that they want to live here and are worried debugging will ruin it kinda works but is pretty weak.

I'm also confused what happened when they won the fight. Did the main know from before that wall was broken? Our NPC sure didn't give the impression she'd seen any successful wall clipping, but otherwise him passing through too and any sort of strategy around it doesn't make sense.
@Bio
Haga and Nikola were aware of the glitched wall in the tower because they spent the entire day searching for such bugs around the city's outer walls.
I genuinely don't see what you're seeing in Nikola's reaction and as for Haga, he had to expose himself in order to steal Sumida's tablet outside the game's playable area or the guy could've smelled their scheme and used his skill (no cooldown even without tablet?) to escape outside.
Jul 19, 2024 3:30 AM

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@Bio
Haga and Nikola were aware of the glitched wall in the tower because they spent the entire day searching for such bugs around the city's outer walls.
I genuinely don't see what you're seeing in Nikola's reaction and as for Haga, he had to expose himself in order to steal Sumida's tablet outside the game's playable area or the guy could've smelled their scheme and used his skill (no cooldown even without tablet?) to escape outside.
@Avvenirista We didn't get any indication that their searching found anything. Nikola's only comment as they turn in for the night was how goofy it was, and she's shocked when the enemy guy actually goes through a wall.
Jul 19, 2024 10:21 AM

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@Avvenirista We didn't get any indication that their searching found anything. Nikola's only comment as they turn in for the night was how goofy it was, and she's shocked when the enemy guy actually goes through a wall.
@Bio
So what you're saying is that you wanted Haga and Nikola to explicitly talk about the glitched walls and their plan to beat Sumida instead of just having the duo allude to the whole thing like they did (she said to go to that specific tower for a very good reason and you're ignoring that).
That's understandable but ultimately that's a just a matter of individual preference, that alone doesn't make the whole scene weak.
And sorry but I'm still not seeing what you're seeing in Nikola's reaction just before Sumida's demise; she dodged the attack quickly and grabbed Haga at the right time so she clearly knew what she was supposed to do in that situation.
Jul 19, 2024 9:55 PM

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@Bio
So what you're saying is that you wanted Haga and Nikola to explicitly talk about the glitched walls and their plan to beat Sumida instead of just having the duo allude to the whole thing like they did (she said to go to that specific tower for a very good reason and you're ignoring that).
That's understandable but ultimately that's a just a matter of individual preference, that alone doesn't make the whole scene weak.
And sorry but I'm still not seeing what you're seeing in Nikola's reaction just before Sumida's demise; she dodged the attack quickly and grabbed Haga at the right time so she clearly knew what she was supposed to do in that situation.
@Avvenirista I'm referring to when the enemies first come through the wall of the hiding spot at the start of the chase. Nikola does not seem like she thought that was possible. I didn't need them to say hey let's go to the tower with the fake wall, but a single example of them clipping during the search would have helped. They also might have explained at that time why Haga thought it was reasonable to tell her to smash her cheeks into walls when you can apparently fall out of bounds and be lost forever. What exactly was preventing that from accidentally happening to Nikola?
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