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Jan 27, 11:31 AM
#1
I say this because I’m autistic and noticed that she gets nervous and sees things differently from others. Autism can be tricky to understand, but she seems to calm down by textures by holding on to hoodie strings and playing with worms. As being autistic myself, I do have problems of getting nervous and scared, but sometimes textures and doing things I like calm me down just like Inori. I love how she might be autistic or have some kind of special needs, I love the representation of special needs and autism if this is what it is. If it isn’t then it’s definitely a coincidence. What do you guys think. |
Jan 27, 11:55 AM
#2
Holding things is absolutely normal in sports before competition to distract or calm yourself. Especially in Ice skating. Doesn't have to do with being autistic |
Jan 27, 12:13 PM
#3
Inori is like Laios from Dungeon Meshi as far as I know. Meaning: not written as an autistic character, but as watcher/reader you can still interpret the character as autistic. |
Jan 27, 12:35 PM
#4
AshTheChamp said: Holding things is absolutely normal in sports before competition to distract or calm yourself. Especially in Ice skating. Doesn't have to do with being autistic True (character limit) |
Jan 27, 1:06 PM
#5
Jan 27, 1:11 PM
#6
To my non-autistic, inexperienced eyes, Inori looked pretty normal to me. If anything, I'd say she's almost unrealistically calm, clear-headed and motivated, especially for a 10-year-old. Nervousness before performance is completely normal, I don't think it's unique or more pronounced for autism. Back in high school when I regularly went on stage, I also had to hold onto something in my hand at all times (usually a water bottle). It kept me grounded and steady, and fidgeting with it helped with distracting myself, kind of like the finger exercises Tsukasa showed Inori. I've read that even legendary artists often struggle with stage fright, sometimes resorting to "medication" or "rituals" to calm their nerves, like sipping weirdly-specific cocktails or talking to oneself out loud. |
Jan 27, 1:11 PM
#7
If you interpret it that way and believe she is, then it is so. Death of the author and all that. |
Jan 27, 2:04 PM
#8
The difference between an autistic person and a a ‘normal’ person is the diagnosis process. I honestly think everyone is somewhere on the autism scale if they went to a specialist in the field. It’s just modern labels stuck on a range of normal personality traits! Some of the highest achievers in business, art and engineering can be seen as autistic, it’s not usually a barrier to productivity in life. |
Jan 27, 3:51 PM
#10
I don’t think she’s either. I think she’s just the young girl who he’s really nervous. |
Jan 27, 3:53 PM
#11
Camoboi1 said: I say this because I’m autistic and noticed that she gets nervous and sees things differently from others. Autism can be tricky to understand, but she seems to calm down by textures by holding on to hoodie strings and playing with worms. As being autistic myself, I do have problems of getting nervous and scared, but sometimes textures and doing things I like calm me down just like Inori. I love how she might be autistic or have some kind of special needs, I love the representation of special needs and autism if this is what it is. If it isn’t then it’s definitely a coincidence. What do you guys think. Dude, I think you’re over complicating this whole thing and I don’t think she’s special needs or autistic or anything of that sort she doesn’t act like it. I should know some dear family friends of ours. Both of their sons were autistic and she doesn’t act anything like them I think you’re just looking too much into it. Just enjoy the show. |
Jan 27, 5:58 PM
#12
I'm pretty sure what you're looking for is that she's actually written like an introverted 11 year old - I was a lot like this when I was that age and I'm not autistic it's just how some kids are, plus you add the pressure of the ice skating and in the end it really doesn't add or take away anything if she is or isn't |
Jan 27, 6:34 PM
#13
No. haven't seen the latest episode yet, but this story compared to most others where the kid thinks and talks like an adult, writes the 11 year old as an actual 11 year old kid, this is how IRL kids act and react. |
Jan 27, 9:03 PM
#14
im autistic myself and it really doesnt look like she is to me, at that age you honestly cant expect to not have certain traits that make you an oddball irl, the worm thing is abit weird, but that again all comes back to age and exploring certain things in life, what people here all say the holding things is a common thing to do if one has stage fright, with what she wants to become all that stress can accumulate and it needs to be vented out eventually, so no, she cant be autistic. |
Jan 27, 9:42 PM
#15
Pretty sure you are looking too deep into it. She’s just a nervous 11 year old that’s not too bright so she lacks a bit of self confidence. |
Jan 27, 10:55 PM
#16
Reply to sailaway30
Camoboi1 said:
I say this because I’m autistic and noticed that she gets nervous and sees things differently from others. Autism can be tricky to understand, but she seems to calm down by textures by holding on to hoodie strings and playing with worms. As being autistic myself, I do have problems of getting nervous and scared, but sometimes textures and doing things I like calm me down just like Inori. I love how she might be autistic or have some kind of special needs, I love the representation of special needs and autism if this is what it is. If it isn’t then it’s definitely a coincidence. What do you guys think.
I say this because I’m autistic and noticed that she gets nervous and sees things differently from others. Autism can be tricky to understand, but she seems to calm down by textures by holding on to hoodie strings and playing with worms. As being autistic myself, I do have problems of getting nervous and scared, but sometimes textures and doing things I like calm me down just like Inori. I love how she might be autistic or have some kind of special needs, I love the representation of special needs and autism if this is what it is. If it isn’t then it’s definitely a coincidence. What do you guys think.
Dude, I think you’re over complicating this whole thing and I don’t think she’s special needs or autistic or anything of that sort she doesn’t act like it. I should know some dear family friends of ours. Both of their sons were autistic and she doesn’t act anything like them I think you’re just looking too much into it. Just enjoy the show.
@sailaway30 This is what it's like for me while being autistic, it's different for everyone. |
Jan 28, 3:41 AM
#17
no she's normal just a normal little girl who has a nervous character writing as usual, it's stupid when people label each character as having a personality when the author didn't write it |
Jan 28, 6:43 AM
#18
This comes up a few times and the anime toned it a good bit, but the manga does imply that she might be neurodivergent(maybe autism, maybe ADHD, maybe something else). |
Jan 28, 4:44 PM
#19
Camoboi1 said: I say this because I’m autistic and noticed that she gets nervous and sees things differently from others. Autism can be tricky to understand, but she seems to calm down by textures by holding on to hoodie strings and playing with worms. As being autistic myself, I do have problems of getting nervous and scared, but sometimes textures and doing things I like calm me down just like Inori. I love how she might be autistic or have some kind of special needs, I love the representation of special needs and autism if this is what it is. If it isn’t then it’s definitely a coincidence. What do you guys think I guess maybe maybe not The behavioural traits you describe are def not exclusive to autism, you see similar patterns in ADHD, OCD, anxiety, or even simple nerves, she might just be a kid who really likes worms and that's why she finds comfort in them Based on the little i watched though, i think in Inori's case a lot of her behaviours stem from anxiety, then who knows, maybe along with that she also has autism, but i don't think it's the most likely scenario Another thing to take into account is her relationship with her mother, which is far from ideal |
DigiCatJan 28, 4:50 PM
Jan 28, 8:15 PM
#20
Reply to DigiCat
Camoboi1 said:
I say this because I’m autistic and noticed that she gets nervous and sees things differently from others. Autism can be tricky to understand, but she seems to calm down by textures by holding on to hoodie strings and playing with worms. As being autistic myself, I do have problems of getting nervous and scared, but sometimes textures and doing things I like calm me down just like Inori. I love how she might be autistic or have some kind of special needs, I love the representation of special needs and autism if this is what it is. If it isn’t then it’s definitely a coincidence. What do you guys think
I say this because I’m autistic and noticed that she gets nervous and sees things differently from others. Autism can be tricky to understand, but she seems to calm down by textures by holding on to hoodie strings and playing with worms. As being autistic myself, I do have problems of getting nervous and scared, but sometimes textures and doing things I like calm me down just like Inori. I love how she might be autistic or have some kind of special needs, I love the representation of special needs and autism if this is what it is. If it isn’t then it’s definitely a coincidence. What do you guys think
I guess maybe maybe not
The behavioural traits you describe are def not exclusive to autism, you see similar patterns in ADHD, OCD, anxiety, or even simple nerves, she might just be a kid who really likes worms and that's why she finds comfort in them
Based on the little i watched though, i think in Inori's case a lot of her behaviours stem from anxiety, then who knows, maybe along with that she also has autism, but i don't think it's the most likely scenario
Another thing to take into account is her relationship with her mother, which is far from ideal
@DigiCat I have the fanbook and can answer a few of these. It's not major, but will spoiler mark just in case. The worm thing seems to be a simple quirk and pun since her moms name contained the kanji for mole who obviously feed on worms. The stuff with her mom is complicated since her mom absolutely loves her and her sister and dotes on them a lot since her own mom was apparently very cold towards her and caused her to have confidence issues and an inferiority complex(it's only shown in passing, but hearing people talk about Inori really hurt Nozomi and caused her to think she was a failure of a parent and that Inori's difficulties were her fault). |
Jan 29, 4:36 AM
#21
Reply to doomrider7
@DigiCat
I have the fanbook and can answer a few of these. It's not major, but will spoiler mark just in case.
The worm thing seems to be a simple quirk and pun since her moms name contained the kanji for mole who obviously feed on worms. The stuff with her mom is complicated since her mom absolutely loves her and her sister and dotes on them a lot since her own mom was apparently very cold towards her and caused her to have confidence issues and an inferiority complex(it's only shown in passing, but hearing people talk about Inori really hurt Nozomi and caused her to think she was a failure of a parent and that Inori's difficulties were her fault).
I have the fanbook and can answer a few of these. It's not major, but will spoiler mark just in case.
The worm thing seems to be a simple quirk and pun since her moms name contained the kanji for mole who obviously feed on worms. The stuff with her mom is complicated since her mom absolutely loves her and her sister and dotes on them a lot since her own mom was apparently very cold towards her and caused her to have confidence issues and an inferiority complex(it's only shown in passing, but hearing people talk about Inori really hurt Nozomi and caused her to think she was a failure of a parent and that Inori's difficulties were her fault).
@doomrider7 That's actually quite smart about the worms Given the relationship between Inori and her mom, it kinda feels like the metaphor is Inori feels like those worms while her mom is the mole Now i haven't read the manga and don't think the anime does a particularly good job portraying their complex relationship, but, based on what i've seen so far of Inori, regardless of if Nozomi's behaviour was out of love or malice, it doesn't change that the result is Inori having the same confidence issues and inferiority complex you mention Nozomi herself had as a kid due to her relationship with her own mother Based on what you say this seems like a case where Nozomi desprerately wants to distance herself from her mother's way of doing things, but inadvertantly ended up repeating the same mistakes with her own daughter |
Jan 30, 11:16 AM
#22
In the manga, classmates openly call Inori slow in the head and useless for any task. Her school grades are also poor. She's not putting pebbles on the window-sill MyAutism MyGo style but she's definitely different from the average. |
Jan 30, 12:37 PM
#23
Reply to Tacsk0
In the manga, classmates openly call Inori slow in the head and useless for any task. Her school grades are also poor. She's not putting pebbles on the window-sill MyAutism MyGo style but she's definitely different from the average.
@Tacsk0 That is not necessarily from being neurodivergent though Having an unhealthy relationship with their parents (in Inori's case her mother) can also effect a kid's academic performance |
Jan 31, 4:47 AM
#24
I think she has ADHD. I relate to her a lot. In the manga it was more apparent imo. |
Jan 31, 5:24 AM
#25
Reply to DigiCat
@Tacsk0 That is not necessarily from being neurodivergent though
Having an unhealthy relationship with their parents (in Inori's case her mother) can also effect a kid's academic performance
Having an unhealthy relationship with their parents (in Inori's case her mother) can also effect a kid's academic performance
@DigiCat In the manga they showed how she struggled with pretty much everything since she was a baby. Other moms bullied her mother telling her daughter turned out that way because she is incompetent. That's why her mother is like that. (Dunno if that was also covered in anime I'm still watching it but I've read all manga chapters.) |
massyylJan 31, 5:28 AM
Jan 31, 9:52 PM
#26
Feb 1, 7:49 AM
#27
Feb 1, 6:32 PM
#28
Lol, reminds me of another anime discussion, where the topic was like "yo mc is very shy so that means they are autistic!" lol No you dimwit, she is just different from the average person while still being normal, like 90% of us are |
bruh |
Feb 1, 7:00 PM
#29
Reply to Marinate1016
She’s def slightly autistic. People have to remember autism is a scale and has nothing to do with intelligence. It can affect your social skills.
@Marinate1016 The amount of people that don't know that or that don't realize that neurodivergence is a very wide spectrum is insane to me. It doesn't mean you're like those obnoxious TikTok posers or that you need assisted living, only that you're mentally wired differently. |
Feb 1, 7:00 PM
#30
Reply to Infernalization
Inori is like Laios from Dungeon Meshi as far as I know. Meaning: not written as an autistic character, but as watcher/reader you can still interpret the character as autistic.
@Infernalization Yeah I never saw Laios as having autism just a very overzealous dude that would think dirt is something you can eat. I'm happy that communiy cna relate to him though so I won't ruin their fun. Same with Inroi. Granted I don't thinkyou can say that since she is legit only 9. |
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Feb 1, 7:02 PM
#31
Reply to Marinate1016
She’s def slightly autistic. People have to remember autism is a scale and has nothing to do with intelligence. It can affect your social skills.
@Marinate1016 Don't say that too loudly the annoying edgelords will jump you. We can't jsut have simple discussions anymore. I disagree with OP as I think at her age it is hard to tell she has autism or not. I'm kind of about to become a teacher so I can tell which kids have it which don't have it. |
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Feb 1, 7:10 PM
#32
Reply to MasterHavik
@Marinate1016 Don't say that too loudly the annoying edgelords will jump you. We can't jsut have simple discussions anymore. I disagree with OP as I think at her age it is hard to tell she has autism or not. I'm kind of about to become a teacher so I can tell which kids have it which don't have it.
@MasterHavik I've commented on it before, but the manga much more leans to her definitely being neurodivergent at least. Whether it's autism or not very much depends. |
Feb 1, 7:11 PM
#33
doomrider7 said: @Marinate1016 The amount of people that don't know that or that don't realize that neurodivergence is a very wide spectrum is insane to me. It doesn't mean you're like those obnoxious TikTok posers or that you need assisted living, only that you're mentally wired differently. Exactly I know many high functioning autistic people. |
Feb 1, 7:14 PM
#34
Reply to doomrider7
@MasterHavik
I've commented on it before, but the manga much more leans to her definitely being neurodivergent at least. Whether it's autism or not very much depends.
I've commented on it before, but the manga much more leans to her definitely being neurodivergent at least. Whether it's autism or not very much depends.
@doomrider7 That's what I'm thinking. The reason I disagree is that we don't know enough as a anime only but if the manga does that and the anime follows suit then I'm with you. I think it's really cool it is going the extra step as many kids like an Inori need our support. |
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Feb 1, 10:26 PM
#35
Reply to Marinate1016
She’s def slightly autistic. People have to remember autism is a scale and has nothing to do with intelligence. It can affect your social skills.
@Marinate1016 Agreed, I already knew that as someone autistic as myself and I can see to pieces their that she could have it. |
Mar 2, 12:49 AM
#36
I'm anime only so idk. Maybe the manga shows more evidence. There are pieces that she has it like you said with the worms... but then again, she's associated worms with "paying" that based old man to get into the ice rink at earlier ages... so that might be a pavlov's dog of enjoying worms? Playing with hoodie strings is one thing but it's specifically Tsukasa's cause he supports her as guidance especially during stress... does that really say anything about how she thinks? That's not me being a brat, it's an actual question cause idk so I am really trying to figure it out myself xD Her poor grades, how much of that is "I only love figure skating versus I can't focus on anything else"? Her classmates not really connecting with her, how much of that is "I only have figure skating friends versus I cannot bond with the common folk due to differences in our thinking"? Benefit of doubt to the people who absolutely think you're wrong and that Inori is just a "normal" non-divergent kid, the entire story really would change if there was a label slapped on her instead of just the stress of sports competition... so it's just chalked up to stress. No matter how correct you are. Unless the author states it, maybe people would rather not know or assume it's not. And tbh, fair enough, I don't mind it any which way. I'm curious though cause despite all the anime gags and drama tropes, this story seems to be grounded in the real world... making this a very interesting addition to the story. It's more character focused with a backdrop of figure skating rather than "here's figure skating and oh we have some wacky or depressing characters" so I'd like to know. Then again, the long-term acceptance of taking a break after injury or holding her own while another finds her missing skates are signs of maturity at her age... in the face of character development and growth is amazing if she did have a disorder but much more likely if she didn't any special needs. -> Not saying it's not possible... but commonly some neurodivergent people can't handle certain things... but if this character is learning to handle these difficult life tasks, how much is she neurodivergent as defined by both people who are and are not... neurodivergent versus just being "normal"... cause even "normal" people aren't wired to always think exactly the same. Keep in mind, her sleep-diet-exercise and no pills, therapists, standout/prolonged anti-social expressions... which is also interesting because you see some of those expressions in other characters of the show... |
Mar 2, 8:41 AM
#37
people don't call anime characters cute anymore, they call them autistic |
Mar 3, 8:54 PM
#38
Mar 3, 9:31 PM
#39
Reply to Camoboi1
@Plopop She's adorable, but I can't shake off the feeling that she might be autistic.
@Camoboi1 She's not. Japan has a very different view of mental illness and if Inori was autistic then it would show. There's a series called Aspergirl that's a prime example of the cultural viewpoint of these topics. Inori is just a recovering defeatist. The anime cuts the context from it but Inori has grown up listening to the neighborhood moms constantly compare her to her sister Mika, this gossip is also the reason Inori's mom was kinda terrible in the beginning. Inori's first gold win in episode 4 has an scene in the manga where the mom actually realizes she's been horrible to Inori because she let the mom gossip get to her. Tl;dr Inori is just a beaten down kid growing into her confidence she gains through figure skating, the manga makes this blatantly obvious that she's kind of a pessimist and at no point does it even suggest mental illness or defect. |
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