Kekkon suru tte, Hontou desu ka Episode 3 Discussion

I don't for the life of me understand how this show is getting such high ratings. These characters are so utterly bland and uninteresting that, three episodes in, I couldn't even tell you their names. The princess was probably the most interesting character in this episode and she wasn't even THAT interesting.

people see one lesbian and start screaming stuff like DEI and woke, tragic because that just means that is all they really took from this episode

Takuya's father looks like trouble but they quickly resolved that.

I like how Claudia imitated Sailor Moon and she is in a yuri relationship. lol

Honestly this anime is kinda mid, but i didnt expect a cute lesbian love story, it surely was a very nice surprise!!

I thought that the fictional country they introduced was supposed to be a cross between Liechtenstein and Luxembourg.

That aside, I'm very glad I decided to watch this. It was one I eyed before the season, figured it'd probably be an easy one or two episode watch and drop, but then already ended up knowing after that second episode that there was something more there and it seemed like something worth continuing with. I'm not saying it's something I'm going to end up giving a 9/10 or will be series of the year or decade or anything like that, but it's just pleasant and easy to watch while still having enough details worth paying attention to and scenes featuring characters' changing moods/attitudes and introspection to be more than just a sleep aid or totally turn your brain off type.

It's very plain and unassuming and in addition to that, or maybe partially because of it, just relaxing as well? I think it also has to do with the fact that I feel like it's been a while since I've seen a regular adults in an office or other workplace Slice of Life-esque anime. No world-rattling consequences. It's lighthearted and occasionally humorous, but not the kind of comedy which is just constant screaming and screams over and cancels out any of the more tender moments or places with potential for them. And I like the romance genre, but maybe it's that I don't watch a large amount of just regular same/similar age human heterosexual couples, plain Jane in other words, as that's not my specific thing, so "normal" ones are a nice change of pace.

I don't watch an abundance of more "vanilla" romcoms and romantic dramas in general, so maybe I mentally sold them short regarding how enjoyable they can be when you're in the proper mood and frame of mind. Well, I enjoyed something like Nagatoro too which I suppose is a pretty "normal" romcom except perhaps not fully due to inclusion of bullying/teasing kink.

This reminds me of a romcom sitcom you could put on at 2:00am, even watch a little out of order on TV in reruns if it's something which went on to have like 120 episodes, and just enjoy the low stakes slow burn experience of getting to know and get used to the characters and their cast dynamics together. Even their co-workers, several of which seem either dim or pushy controlling bosses, feel like they could have a fun and endearing, purposeful part to play in it all by story's end.

@Marinate1016 It surprises me that her family was okay with the idea of ​​her being man-obsessed and cheating on her husband, but also potentially against her lesbian sexuality. However, it seems that this is not so neglected if the plot implies that she can refuse royal duties without “penalties”. While I don't understand in any way the attempts to portray modern Western Europe as more homophobic than Japan, knowing the attitude towards LGBTQ people in modern Japan, this seems very dubious.

@patkarunungan It's called a lesbian relationship, not a "yuri relationship". Well, I like to think that this was one big "subtle" parody of the Western SM fandom, lmao. Although I still don't understand why they had to censor a character from another manga by the author. Didn't he still have rights to her?

@Stormy_77 In fact, their problems are often even greater than ours, because who you fuck has no influence on “real politics” and the fate of the entire regime.

@J0HN_L0CKE @JammingGem @WatchTillTandava Homophobia as a phenomenon is older than modern civilization. The other thing is, Claudia is literally a minor character who only appears in one episode at the moment, so seeing so many people lose their minds over her sexuality really makes me raise an eyebrow. It's like people are just going crazy over the fact that a gay character is even on screen.

@MinaseNagi You can console yourself with the fact that the same people will be angry when yuri fans starts rants about one random male character in some all-female show, lmao. This “war” is meaningless and endless.

@RobertBobert People got so primed by the whole culture war issue, that I didn't see anyone mention that she is essentially cheating on her husband...
Like cheating on her husband is not okay, even if it's with a woman.

@JaniSIr Ah, now when you paid attention. Well, I perfectly understand what you want to say, but usually “discovering your sexuality” is included in the list of plot excuses of cheating (with other cliches like sexual underdevelopment or a big difference in age, as if only ideal relationships are valuable). So such things are quite common in Yuri and BL stories even outside the obvious NTR fetishism. As I understand it, her marriage is an absolute formality, but I do not think that many people thought about it.

@RobertBobert Not on my watch it does not.
Poor unnamed offscreen Prince sounds like a nice guy in an awkward position, where he can't exactly stop his wife, and we also got no indication on him also wanting to remarry.

Ugh, this was supposed to be a nice cozy palate cleanser, but after this discussion I'll remember it as the show that justifies lesbian cheating.

@JaniSIr As I said, the media usually promotes the narrative that cheating matters only in some ideal wholesome relationships. Well, only if we do not see the story on the part of the character that are the victim of that. Then any cheating is bad, even if there really no any love here.

@RobertBobert I haven't noticed that trend myself, off the top of my head the cheating stories I can recall either had an abusive partner, the cheating was portrayed as a bad thing, or involved blackmailing.

@JaniSIr Anime didn't invent this trend; you could trace it back to the days of old literature. Have you ever read La Comtesse de Monsoreau, for example?

@RobertBobert I know that romance in general has the same tropes everywhere, but still, this one in particular missed me. (Though I wasn't into the genre until recently.)
I did not read that, I once started the Count of Monte Cristo, but didn't finish it, though probably should, over a decade later...

@JaniSIr I'm just saying that using certain excuses to romanticize cheating and portray lovers as victims instead of people doing questionable things is as old as time.

@RobertBobert I'm not exactly surprised, but in this particular case her excuse is really weak, at least they didn't have kids, now that'd be a nightmare scenario.

(I need to stop needlessly making myself mad about this show, at this point we are not even disagreeing...)

@JaniSIr You will be surprised if I say that a mother with children who gets a lesbian lover is a definite subgenre in Yuri?

@RobertBobert I started reading one of those, but it wasn't very good.

@JaniSIr For many years, Yuri, as BL, has existed as part of the “forbidden” romance and still has not completely moved away from these roots. Therefore, a certain amount of manga and anime still have a very sensational, boulevard nature.

@RobertBobert Idk, it's a common yuri trope that everyone in the story is a lesbian, so that's kinda suggesting the opposite.