| Try-hard definition: To make an obvious effort to excel, but achieve only moderate success, especially when measured against ambitious goals. People see "wow, unique artstyle!" like they did with Ousama Ranking last year and the personal hype increases, which only sets you up for failure in the long run. The old "style over substance" cliche saying really seems to hold true here. Now we even have unique dialogue this time around in Yurei Deco! Love-y! Two episodes in and it's the same feeling I have, when I watched Devilman, Eizouken, etc... I enjoyed Ping Pong at least. What are your thoughts on Science Saru and their projects? |
| Style over substance doesn't apply here. Style IS the substance. The in-universe reason it's colourful and quirky is Decos. It would be more bizarre for the show to look like Psycho-Pass despite the two sharing a similar premise of a corrupt governing body. Presentation matters in a visual medium. |
GakutoDeathGlare said: Try-hard definition: To make an obvious effort to excel, but achieve only moderate success, especially when measured against ambitious goals. People see "wow, unique artstyle!" like they did with Ousama Ranking last year and the personal hype increases, which only sets you up for failure in the long run. The old "style over substance" cliche saying really seems to hold true here. Now we even have unique dialogue this time around in Yurei Deco! Love-y! Two episodes in and it's the same feeling I have, when I watched Devilman, Eizouken, etc... I enjoyed Ping Pong at least. What are your thoughts on Science Saru and their projects? No because the result speaks fo itself. no matter what you think of ousama ranking you can't deny that it would have been a worse show if it didn't have its artstyle. and i firmly believe this show to be the same. its too early to say for sure if this show can live up to its potential, but as it is now, it has both style and substance. which although i haven't seen them, acording to most people is the case for devil man and specially ping pong as well. i don't think there are any full on studios that i would call try hard. there are certainly try hard anime, but they are the exception. and i can't think of any studio that realeses try hard anime on regular bases. |
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devinder said: Straight from their homepage - Our creative mission is to explore new avenues of expression through telling authentic stories.Style over substance doesn't apply here. Style IS the substance. The in-universe reason it's colourful and quirky is Decos. It would be more bizarre for the show to look like Psycho-Pass despite the two sharing a similar premise of a corrupt governing body. Presentation matters in a visual medium. You said it yourself, the underlying themes of corruptness is nothing we haven't seen before. The stories and messages never seem to hold up to their artwork, at least that's my history with this studio so far. And I cannot think of any other studio that comes close. |
Apolygon2 said: GakutoDeathGlare said: Try-hard definition: To make an obvious effort to excel, but achieve only moderate success, especially when measured against ambitious goals. People see "wow, unique artstyle!" like they did with Ousama Ranking last year and the personal hype increases, which only sets you up for failure in the long run. The old "style over substance" cliche saying really seems to hold true here. Now we even have unique dialogue this time around in Yurei Deco! Love-y! Two episodes in and it's the same feeling I have, when I watched Devilman, Eizouken, etc... I enjoyed Ping Pong at least. What are your thoughts on Science Saru and their projects? No because the result speaks fo itself. no matter what you think of ousama ranking you can't deny that it would have been a worse show if it didn't have its artstyle. and i firmly believe this show to be the same. its too early to say for sure if this show can live up to its potential, but as it is now, it has both style and substance. which although i haven't seen them, acording to most people is the case for devil man and specially ping pong as well. i don't think there are any full on studios that i would call try hard. there are certainly try hard anime, but they are the exception. and i can't think of any studio that realeses try hard anime on regular bases. "its too early to say for sure if this show can live up to its potential, but as it is now, it has both style and substance." This is a complete contradiction to your "This screams hidden gem of the season" thread, where you also state in that thread - "Mark my word, this WILL NOT AGE POORLY." You're kind of making my point here. |
| >What are your thoughts on Science Saru and their projects? I liked ping pong and Yoru wa Mijikashi Arukeyo Otome, but at the same time i also liked Tekkonkinkreet and The Eccentric Family/tatami galaxy too. So changing the studio to studio 4°c and p a works/madhouse didnot make any difference for me. I hate devilman crybaby, Nihon Chinbotsu 2020 and Heike Monogatari. So they have made more shows i hate than i like I think they do have good animators (though first few devilman crybay episode were poor even in terms of animation). But pasting a universal studio exclusive style over works which has its own individual style doesn't sit all that well with me. (Especially not suited of working on manga adaptation). I have not seen Eizouken yet, so my opinion about it is not all that concrete. As far as original content goes, I don't really care tbh. I doesn't feel all that different from what other studios would uses. Anyways I am excited for tatami galaxy time machine blues regardless |
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|GakutoDeathGlare said: Apolygon2 said: No because the result speaks fo itself. no matter what you think of ousama ranking you can't deny that it would have been a worse show if it didn't have its artstyle. and i firmly believe this show to be the same. its too early to say for sure if this show can live up to its potential, but as it is now, it has both style and substance. which although i haven't seen them, acording to most people is the case for devil man and specially ping pong as well. i don't think there are any full on studios that i would call try hard. there are certainly try hard anime, but they are the exception. and i can't think of any studio that realeses try hard anime on regular bases. "its too early to say for sure if this show can live up to its potential, but as it is now, it has both style and substance." This is a complete contradiction to your "This screams hidden gem of the season" thread, where you also state in that thread - "Mark my word, this WILL NOT AGE POORLY." You're kind of making my point here. thats just me shit talking. i made that post before this even aired. i don't actually believe it fully. if wonder egg with that massive of a potential can fuck up at the end, any show can go to shit. you can never fully judge an unfinished story. i can tell that the story is more unique than most other anime this season. i can say the dialogue is well written. i can say the production value is high so far. but i can not say if it will live up to all it can do from the start. I made the thread knowing this. i thought i would either come out with a huge win, or it would be really funny fail. i can't believe i had to explain this. it should be obvious that "MARK MY WORDS THIS WILL NOT AGE POORLY" is the most i kinda wish this aged poorly because it would be funny line you could say. |
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| They're trying to adopt a different artstyle from the rest of anime. Which I think is a good thing, I mean this medium does need some diversity in terms of design and all. I've heard all their stories are badly written though for some strange reason (I mean its freaking Yuasa). I did love Devilman Crybaby though, enough that its in my top 10. I'd say PA Works is more tryhard as they're trying to outrank both Kyoto Animation (with shows like Ya Boy Kongming, Sakura Quest, and Shirobako) and Bones (with shows like Sirius, Fairy Gone, Appare Ranman), but don't have the resources nor writing staff to back them up. |
| I've rather found myself liking this one. It's quite different, and that can be refreshing. And while originally it didn't seem to really have any direction, we're seeing that now, with secret trials held by robot prosecutors. Little slow to get started, but that can work alright. Even if it turns out not to work in the end, I'd much rather have "try hard" than "phone it in". There's already plenty of "one more isekai" or "one more romcom" out there, if that's what you're in the mood for. So I'm awfully glad to see someone trying something a little different. |
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GakutoDeathGlare said: Interesting you say that considering how great Ousama Ranking was, a bit ironic all things considered. It feels like your point didn't land, perhaps try a better comparison next time.Try-hard definition: To make an obvious effort to excel, but achieve only moderate success, especially when measured against ambitious goals. People see "wow, unique artstyle!" like they did with Ousama Ranking last year and the personal hype increases, which only sets you up for failure in the long run. The old "style over substance" cliche saying really seems to hold true here. Now we even have unique dialogue this time around in Yurei Deco! Love-y! Two episodes in and it's the same feeling I have, when I watched Devilman, Eizouken, etc... I enjoyed Ping Pong at least. What are your thoughts on Science Saru and their projects? |
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devinder said: Style over substance doesn't apply here. Style IS the substance. The in-universe reason it's colourful and quirky is Decos. It would be more bizarre for the show to look like Psycho-Pass despite the two sharing a similar premise of a corrupt governing body. Presentation matters in a visual medium. What you're describing isn't style being the substance, but style being, well, the style. "In-universe reasons" don't matter, said universe and all ideas within are figments of the creator's mind. It's not about why things are like this within the series' own lore, but why are things like this in terms of the story. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
| You are tryhard baiter |
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| You can trace back Yuasa's all the way to 2004, this style isn't some new thing to make it look good. I love it when mal users accuse something of being tryhard just because it doesn't look like the hyper polished norm of most other shows |
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| I love how this guy always starts the stupidest discussions, but never sticks around to actually discuss them beyond 2 or 3 replies. |
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| oh, it's Hate-Stare at it again^^ We gonna see a hateful, delusional Thread popping up, after each Episode, like we did when Ousama Ranking was airing now? Boy, oh boy. Can't wait :D As always. Non of your deranged thoughts will matter, of course^^ But feel free. |
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| Trigger giving them a run for their money in recent years, that's for damn sure, but I think Science Saru still takes the cake here. Another terrible series from SS once again... And that screams hidden gem of the season thread is hilarious as well. |
| i heard Liden Films is the current try hard of the anime industry but i cannot confirm it though |
| https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=458060 - An excellent review here, mirrors the thoughts of many. |
| how foolish and obnoxious of them to not simply make the most generic anime possible. trying to do anything but make the most generic, normal anime, is clearly trying too hard! how embarrassing. ahahaha |
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