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Apr 11, 2010 11:08 AM
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"Haman's Dark Shadow"
Dec 8, 2010 4:25 PM
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I have to say this episode was a lot of fun. Puru was introduced and it seems like she is another crazy gundam pilot.
May 31, 2011 12:06 AM
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Loved this episode! Lot's of great character play and some interesting developments.
Jul 18, 2011 12:51 AM
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Havent finished watchign the episode but Puru is soooo cuuuuute!!! :P
Blergh.
Nov 22, 2011 5:40 PM
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The only time until now that this series has shown something better than the previous one. Haman with her hair like that. She looks incredibly hot like that.
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Dec 1, 2012 11:04 AM
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Elpeo Ple is cute.

Puru, puru, puru, puru, puru, puru, puru, puru!
Dec 13, 2012 6:49 AM
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So, finally the story started to progress a little. I was beggining to think that this series wouldn't go nowhere --"

Also, Puru is annoying but at least she is better than the female Cyber-newtypes from Zeta (Sarah, Four and Rosamy). Oh, and of course, she is a nymphomaniac.
Apr 9, 2013 2:28 AM
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Haman's hair made this series suddenly watchable.
Apr 27, 2013 2:51 AM
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Sexy Haman is sexy!
May 23, 2013 1:56 PM

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Puru is crazy, but she's super cute. Glemy - "She's a bad example! Please try to forget you saw her!" Hehe.
Sep 1, 2013 11:36 AM

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Shutter shades!? Is Haman Khan is hipper than Char?
Oct 11, 2013 8:44 AM

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Haman in a bathing suit. <3

Puru is so adorable. xD
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Jan 12, 2014 11:34 AM

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Haman is really sexy with her hair like that. Nice. And Judau met her face to face.
Feb 13, 2014 8:16 PM
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Great, more fucking annoying kids. Just what i've always wanted!
/sarcasm

But omg Haman looks AMAZING fklasjfdlkajfl;jas.

MyLonesomeCowboy said:
Shutter shades!? Is Haman Khan is hipper than Char?

If Haman and Char had babies together you know those babies would be born with sunglasses on.
Mar 14, 2014 2:44 PM

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Haman was smoking hot in the bikini with those glasses

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Great, more fucking annoying kids. Just what i've always wanted!
/sarcasm

But omg Haman looks AMAZING fklasjfdlkajfl;jas.

MyLonesomeCowboy said:
Shutter shades!? Is Haman Khan is hipper than Char?

If Haman and Char had babies together you know those babies would be born with sunglasses on.


HAHA this
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this was deifnetly one of the better episodes, comedy wasnt obnoxious and there was actual progression going on with the events

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

May 3, 2014 10:43 PM

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I already know Puru is going to get on my nerves. These kids, man...

Haman is always a plus. Even more so when she sends out a demonic aura.

Lastly, Judau sucks at sneaking in. How stupid you have to be to tell the enemy that you're from the enemy ship?
Jul 28, 2014 5:07 PM

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parfaited said:

MyLonesomeCowboy said:
Shutter shades!? Is Haman Khan is hipper than Char?

If Haman and Char had babies together you know those babies would be born with sunglasses on.


Best part of this series so far is this quote

*sigh*

oh well at least Haman-sama has appeared to hopefully save this show (not counting the flashbacks)
Dec 10, 2014 9:05 AM

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Puru is freaking annoying but damn Haman looks sexy in that bikini (and I like the hairstyle more)
Jan 26, 2015 11:38 PM

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Amazing episode!

Damn the episodes keep getting better and better!

Haman is back!! I love her hair in this style! All comb down instead of that wig style she loves to wear XD

So that Puru Puru girl seems to be one of those girls who gets all Yandere if things doesn't go their way :P

Still, it was nice to see Judau and Puru, lol i wonder what Reina's reaction would look like if she saw Judau and Puru Puru?

I'm glad that idiot Beecha and Mondo reduced to slaves for Axis. Serves you right.

Woo sexy Haman!!! When she had the glasses on, she look badass as Char!

Speaking of Char, hopefully he appears in this series ^^

Wow, glad they didn't tone down Haman's sinister aura. She seems more menacing this time around.

Good stuff!

I want more of this episodes and less fillers please!

Can't wait for the next episode!
Feb 2, 2015 10:09 AM

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The show has been kinda getting slowly better since Lu showed up.

Puru is an interesting character.

It bothers me how they keep not going to wear normal suits and going into space. Don't they know that would be bad?
Nov 9, 2015 2:02 AM

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Yay, Haman is finally back. Perhaps now we can start with the plot in episode 18?

Puru is going to be annoying. Just like those two kids weren't enough...
Dec 10, 2015 7:35 PM

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Finally starting to pick up.

Puru is adorable and ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°),clingy non blood related "imouto" character appealing even in 80s anime

Haman with her hair like that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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MyLonesomeCowboy said:
Shutter shades!? Is Haman Khan is hipper than Char?
If Haman and Char had babies together you know those babies would be born with sunglasses on.
lol
May 4, 2016 6:57 AM

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Dayum, Haman got that Kanye swag, tho


It's a shame though when you realize that 24 minutes watching Haman lazying out in the sun would've made a better episode than what we ended up getting. Half an hour of concentrated stupidity and yet another autistic imouto Newtype character to add to the main cast: good Lord, I fear Puru-chan is going to be ten times as annoying as her stupid name suggests.

Bah, at least I got a good laugh.

stand said:
If Haman and Char had babies together you know those babies would be born with sunglasses on.
QFT.
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May 18, 2016 5:07 AM

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"Ple, ple, ple, ple, ple, ple" - Elpeo Ple (MSGZZ)


It wasn't at all what I expected after the ep16. It was very comedic for an intrusion but strangely I did not mind it and enjoyed the humour as well as the few serious bits.

Ple is so young o_O She might be a cyber Newtype but the Titans ones had severe personality troubles while she appears to be constant/stable in her childish behavior). Despite her age, she even get the bath scene (I was betting on Lucas or Elle).
"You're not the kind to kill people" Will Judau try to save an exploited NT too? Please let him succeed after all those depressing failures Camille went through.

Haman new haircut is... disappointing but she seems to be herself (not like in Mashymre's "flashbacks"). Also, with Char's absence, they had to find someone else to wear cool sunglasses and be lazy under the sun in a very revealing suit.
Where did Axis find the Psycho-Gundam?! Wasn't it lost on Earth in the Himalaya?

(I despise those two traitors, they are only thinking about themselves.)

In other series, this episode would get only a 4/5 but the contrast with ZZ is too strong to not get a 5/5.


@Roy_Focker That's an attempt at what we call "comique de répétition" in french (something that keeps happening in order to produce a comical effect, often used in a certain genre of theater pieces). I guess the english way to put it would be "running joke"?


November 8, 2018
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is with all these dummy asteroids in the past episodes, how does one make a “dummy asteroid” anyway

This new technology will become a stapple of the universe. Better get accustomed to it.


June 29, 2020
@St0rmblade Glad you appreciated the new character. She might be hugely popular in a certain faraway land but among westerners and internet people, she's usually decried.
It's "Ple", yes, "puru" being the transliteration of the japanese sounds (you probably already "googled" the name's origin anyway).

You will see Mashymre again, but... well, I let you see it by yourself.
You will
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Very enjoyable episode
New girl seems fun!
Dec 26, 2017 7:06 PM

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Introduced to a new, annoying character, Puru! Dear lord.

The highlight: Haman with those kick ass shades, yo. Good to see 80's swag like that is popular now a days.
Feb 14, 2018 6:53 PM

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Axis/Mineva needs to fire all of her staff they are being run by incompetent people.

On a side note:
What is up with this show and the cockpit getting stuck open?
Sep 1, 2018 7:13 PM

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Haman looks good with her hair like that. It looks like she and Judau have finally met face to face, and she knows he's a Newtype.

Nov 4, 2018 11:05 PM
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Wtf is with all these dummy asteroids in the past episodes, how does one make a “dummy asteroid” anyway?

This episode was pretty funny, poor Judau just wants to find his imouto. I’m curious to find out more about Puru, it seems like she is a cyber-newtype with similar brainwashing to Rosamia or she is just crazy in some way.

Haman was looking cute with those shades too, I like her hair like that. The face-to-face with Judau was epic as well. Now lets get the plot going shall we?
Nov 7, 2018 10:48 PM
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Rei366 said:
"Ple, ple, ple, ple, ple, ple" - Elpeo Ple (MSGZZ)


It wasn't at all what I expected after the ep16. It was very comedic for an intrusion but strangely I did not mind it and enjoyed the humour as well as the few serious bits.

Ple is so young o_O She might be a cyber Newtype but the Titans ones had severe personality troubles while she appears to be constant/stable in her childish behavior). Despite her age, she even get the bath scene (I was betting on Lucas or Elle).
"You're not the kind to kill people" Will Judau try to save an exploited NT too? Please let him succeed after all those depressing failures Camille went through.

Haman new haircut is... disappointing but she seems to be herself (not like in Mashymre's "flashbacks"). Also, with Char's absence, they had to find someone else to wear cool sunglasses and be lazy under the sun in a very revealing suit.
Where did Axis find the Psycho-Gundam?! Wasn't it lost on Earth in the Himalaya?

(I despise those two traitors, they are only thinking about themselves.)

In other series, this episode would get only a 4/5 but the contrast with ZZ is too strong to not get a 5/5.


@Roy_Focker That's an attempt at what we call "comique de répétition" in french (something that keeps happening in order to produce a comical effect, often used in a certain genre of theater pieces). I guess the english way to put it would be "running joke"?


Blarey said:
is with all these dummy asteroids in the past episodes, how does one make a “dummy asteroid” anyway

This new technology will become a stapple of the universe. Better get accustomed to it.


Wish it was explained more how they are made
Jan 1, 2019 8:38 AM

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Yes! Haman is back. Haman with her hair down is something I never knew I needed.
Apr 14, 2019 7:59 AM

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Haman is living the life xD

Fun episode. Puru is really cute due to her playful nature, but that also makes her really dangerous.

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It was really weird to see Haman with that hairstyle and in such a formal suit. Did she just get out of shower or what? And then she was just chillin' on the balcony in those sunglasses xD

Elpeo Ple (Puru?) is...something. Crazy but entertaining to watch.

I don't mind some plot convenient stuff in this episode, it was just fun and refreshing and I was obviously very happy to see Haman back, as well as the internals of Axis (though I got an idea after reading "Char's deleted affair" for a bit). Now will we see Mineva and Mashymre again? And why is Glemy occupying such a high position?

By the way, what happened to Shinta and Chara? When Judau separated, they should've ended up in their fighter again, right? Did they escape to Axis too?

The uniform of Axis elite guards looks dope.
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Puru made the ep it was nice to get to see more of her

now the thing that was annoying is the fact that him and his sister was right by each other so many times and just missed each other

also...... as many gundam series i have seen there is always that one super annoying character in them and in ZZ its the blonde guy smh he is just so fucking annoying like him keeping the sister him getting super lucky not dead yet ect god hate him

anyway great ep
"one step at a time"
Jun 16, 2021 6:54 AM

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How is there gravity inside Axis? Axis doesn't appear to rotate, so the only way there could be centrifugal forces at play is if the asteroid is hollow and there is a habitation section inside it that is rotating.

Nice to get a glimpse at Zeon civilian society. You'd think that the ceiling of the town could be painted sky blue or have screens that display a blue sky, to at least give the illusion of normalcy.

Puru is... um... wow.

Puru at the end there was sorta terrifying. It's like seeing a child with a gun. They have no clue about the consequences of what they are doing and its scary and you don't know what's going to happen.
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No Cyber Newtype has turned out okay so far if that's what she is, I hope not cuz I think she's great
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Nov 27, 2022 3:56 PM
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I think I'm the only one who prefer the former style of haman's haircut

Did puru just licked Judau's face? lmao

she's kind annoying though, possibly more than the zeta ones
Jun 12, 2023 9:32 AM

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puru is adorable love her
Sep 6, 2023 2:44 AM

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loved this episode, the serie in becoming more interesting

''Touch the darkness inside me''
Dec 21, 2023 9:28 AM
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Ple is so sillyyyyy. Also I heard she's in unicorn? So that's cool
Jan 31, 12:59 PM
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Gundam ZZ is winning the "introduce a more annoying character each time" award. I just want torture to end.

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