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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well, that certainly was something... I was expecting more from this anime but it wasn't too bad. |
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| The final death throes have been thrown, and Sawa faces Jin right at Yoshinobu Tokugawa's regime's office. The sacrifice of Jin's humanity by consuming Janome's perfected drugs which contain the blue blood, and the blending of the Changeling of Sawa to deceive the only child from the clan that's still alive from killling the current Lord. It's too late to call Jin's redemption from secretly loving Sawa's mom to confessing his sins, Asahi's save being one to atone for liberty. Welp, and so it is, the government watchdog beomes the betrayal of his own nation. Such sick moments to slay for justice and sacrifice his own life for a wish that can only be fulfilled by Sawa. Till the end of the day, Asahi awaits Sawa's return while Elena transports out of the residence with her newborn child and husband. With all violence and revenge done, both Sawa and Asahi can finally rest, breathe a huge sigh of relief and live life anew. This ain't a trainwreck, but it's not bad...it's just poor. |
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| Tbh, I think this final episode is fine but was expecting for more. Great that Sawa manages to find some redemption and peace in this show after her journey. It's a 6/10 or me. |
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| Frankly down the stretch idk what the hell was going on in the show. It started out with some really cool potential with those stunning visuals and unique art style, but ultimately fizzled out and wasted a lot of potential. I did enjoy Sawa and Asashi dynamic but the story wasn’t pulled off very well. |
Marinate1016Jun 15, 2021 9:47 AM
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| That was a bit sad at the end but it was interesting to see the time skip with 17 years old Asahi and Elena's daughter... Average show I would say overall, it looked good but for the story itself it was meh, I liked the characters though. |
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| Yuki is going out to take revenge on Jin Kuzuhara. Seems like a dumb move now that she have Asahi back with her and even Elena is trying to convince her to not do that. That fight didn't last too long between Jin and Yuki. He told her about everything and also that he loved her mother. The end was pretty sad. Overall, the show wasn't too bad but a meh. The art style was good and unique. Not much to say about this. |
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| 0.5/10. Just utterly boring, perplexing, and underwhelming. Not to mention, quite forgettable at best. Started out interesting enough but literally zero character development and just a bunch of haphazard plotting and silly dramatic beats. The aesthetics were good in areas but not all that impressive. Even without considering the low demographic, this show is just fundamentally discombobulated. For something supposedly different from the usual seasonals, it turned out even worse than just generic. Nothing felt truly resolved, more of an abridged story of sorts with no weight to make up for it. The emotions of the ending ringed hollow for me. |
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| End was dope but was confused on how she died unless it was the stab wound from that dude from behind |
| Such a sad ending. Sawa was fighting for her freedom from the beginning and easily died in the end from that backstab?!! What's going on!!!!! come on... The grown-up Asahi is basically the new Sawa, her appearance is imitating Sawa, the one she loves the most. Her adventure with Elena's daughter, Satsuki, looks to start soon. |
何それ？意味分かんない  |
| both sawa and jin died? didnt expect that. after credits scene was also unexpected, asahi became exactly like sawa lmao. got powers, became more "calm", really different. glad to know she's still close with hana and even her daughter satsuki show's finished, wouldn't say it was Bad but definitely couldve been better. in a lot of parts |
| There was overall just few episodes that stand out, being better than rest episodes, 6/10 Revenge continues... |
GaichiJun 15, 2021 11:51 AM
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
| So Asahi became the new Sawa....no, no I...I can't like this ending. I'm sorry, but Sawa had to die because....? From what I can gather that one woman stabbed her in the back or the side near the end, right? I know that character has appeared before but don't remember who it was specifically. Was it the woman with the Wolverine ripoff powers from last week and the train? I guess it doesn't really matter. What a forced and unnecessary death in either event. But then I dunno. I guess if I was more deeply invested in the series up to this point I'd probably be more upset. As it is it's just gonna lower the score I was gonna give this, a 6, to a 5. Because honestly I never truly connected to the story this series was trying to tell. Way back in episode 1 I said it felt like they dropped us in with little to no explanation, which is fine if...ya know, an explanation eventually comes. Thing is, the way the story was unfurled was really circuitous and confusing. You get a death fakeout! You get a death fakeout! You get a flashback! You get a flashback! I THINK I more or less understood it all by the end, but I never really enjoyed it much or became that invested along the way. As it is, the nicest thing I can say about this series is it looked nice. The art style I mean, it was very appealing. The rest? Meh. 5/10 |
Zerity said: End was dope but was confused on how she died unless it was the stab wound from that dude from behind She was approached from behind by Rinko on her way back to meet Asahi, and presumably stabbed. She just held out long enough to have a final moment with Asahi before bleeding out. |
| Pretty solid ending honestly. Had a rough start but the show definitely improved after the first few episodes. I'd say it's about a 6.5/10. |
| Well, that was certainly something...so I have a question...why the skeleton face when she breathed? I get the animal fusion, I get the special blood of the clan, but why the skeletal face? In the end I realised that Jouran would have been much more enjoyable as a movie. Not so bad though, 4/10 from me, acknowledging that I enjoyed some episodes, unexpectedly, and that the music was cool, but just that. |
| So when will MAL let me mark this as complete lol. A fairly solid ending, all things considered. Overall, a bit of a mess of a show but still enjoyable. It had so much potential, but I think Jin Kuzuhara was the only consistently good/interesting character. I wish that ending actually sets up a sequel. 4 or 5/10. |
   "~and he loved to play the piano!"  |
| Easily the most boring anime I've managed to finish in quite a while |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| What a garbage ending. Didn't do shit, she still dies. Ruined my day. |
| Still ain't marked as completed :v |
 -English is not my national language- |
| Come on man wtf with the end, I was fine with everything till now but the ending left a bad aftertaste. Below average anime overall. The only thing I liked about this anime was the artstyle. |
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| Well, it was obvious that she was going to die from the scene where she dropped the flowers but the Sawa and Asahi’s scene still made me kinda sad even though I didn’t really care about the characters. It was a meh ending to a show that I didn’t like. |
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| I don't know what to think about this ending. Extremely bittersweet and what a stupid and unnecessary way to kill Sawa lmao Art was probably the strongest part of the anime, but animation was very inconsistent. The story had a ridiculous amount of plot twists and death fakeouts that it was way too hard to take it seriously. Overall, pretty mediocre anime. I expected more from it. 51/100 |
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| I liked the characters, the themes of family and atonement. Sadly the story was messy. The ending it as well as possible. Sawa's end was depressing, especially because she was basically a teenager. I'm happy Asahi survived and carried on her sister's legacy. 5/10 |
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| Yeah. I'm also going with 6/10. Felt 7-ish most of the time. But had some good moments. A bit disappointed though that they did not make anything with this special setting. Bis was basically useless and they could also have done a similar story without too much fantasy stuff. End was okay. |
| My man turned into a furry Anyway, what's up with the end. They didn't have to kill her off yikes |
| "he has it big as a cactus but he won't let go of my head and I puke on his cock bitch" - Boy by Fishball |
| All in all a decent show. Animation was nice and story was too. The only thing that utterly gets me is the scene with Asahi at the end. Are they implying she has the karasumori powers? If so it would obviously not be by blood but in that same respect, if we are to assume that its because she had the drug or w/e you want to call it then we would think that she would somehow be altered physically. If then, they're implying its by blood, then thats fucking stupid and illogical. Not only that, but she's looking for answers? How? Shogun dead, jin assumed dead, yes, drunk assassin bestie is alive but how in the world would she even find her? I don't know if they're setting it up for a 2nd season but its kind of a non-ending/ they should have just ended it with her in that scene and no "we can totally milk a season two out of this ending". |
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| Yukimura is retarded, that’s really the only thing I can describe about her. That ending made no sense, it didn’t give a reason why Asahi has the power of the blue blood clan (I forgot it’s actual name lol), and Asahi should have no motivation whatsoever to carry on in Yukimura’s footsteps. She shouldn’t know who killed her, so she shouldn’t have any motivation. Woohoo let’s make Asahi suffer some more lmao lmao lmao (that production team has to be mentally ill). God, this anime was dogshit and I don’t want a season 2. 2/10 |
under”Mebius” is my salvation  |
| I think the medium was more interesting than the end. Boring, no emotion, no depth. That's a 5-note anime, no big deal. Neither good nor bad, but I wasted my time. |
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| Three problems: 1. What the hell was Sawa stabbed with that it was a 1-hit-kill? She's taken far more punishment before. 2. What happened to the 3rd drug from janome? 3. How the hell does Asahi have blue blood? The diary said Sawa gave her some of hers. When? And if you can just transfer the blood and get the powers, what the hell was Janome doing? All in all, I did enjoy it, but the writing was not its strong point. A lot of things were left unresolved, as if they were writing the plot on the fly. Who was the body found buried in the house after Asahi was "killed"? Who were the people Makoto was going to leave with? Just some random British spies? Was Kyoko's son really killed or not? And if now, where is he? What the hell was stopping Jin from killing the shogun before? I doubt he even needed the blue blood. |
DmonHiroJun 15, 2021 2:21 PM
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| Kuzuhara had a really nice design imo. The anime certainly had a nice unique style of art , opening was good and stuff. But the plot... overall it was a okay watch I guess. Asahi's glow up in the end, damn she just looks like her older sister. |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
An ending that I wasn't expecting. So sad that Sawa died, and I still do not have clear how it happened, but ok. |
| Um, well not too sure what to think of that ending. Seems pretty far-fetched to allow Asahi to have the blue blood so suddenly. Felt anti-climatic with the whole government situation... now that I think about it, did the govt really have that much impact in the long run? I think the amount of times I fell asleep watching this was quite worth. |
| Well that was uh....certainly an ending lol. See Sawa, you should have killed that discount Wolverine chick but nooooo, and now look. You're fucking DEAD. So Asahi is basically the new Sawa, is she now gonna go on a revenge quest too? Like if she's not going to just live peacefully, and also now has the blue blood powers, what's her game plan? I feel like the ending left us with more questions than answers, and was sequel bait for a sequel that frankly, I hope never comes. This show definitely had potential but it was just poorly written and executed. It felt like the writers didn't have a solid story planned out and just kind of made shit up as they went. Oh and since no one else is mentioning it, the sound design was pretty awful. The sound effects were wack and sometimes didn't seem to match what sound you would expect, and they definitely lacked intensity during action scenes. And I thought it was just odd how discount Wolverine chick stabbed Sawa and there was literally no sound effect. I'm assuming it was to create suspense and make her final moments more emotional once it's revealed she's bleeding out, but it didn't have that effect on me and just seemed dumb. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| Pretty disappointing anime really, lackluster in many areas. Slow burn with some pretty sloppy, confusing writing. Quite boring as well, a massive offense for me personally. 5/10. |
DiabolicNick said: All in all a decent show. Animation was nice and story was too. The only thing that utterly gets me is the scene with Asahi at the end. Are they implying she has the karasumori powers? If so it would obviously not be by blood but in that same respect, if we are to assume that its because she had the drug or w/e you want to call it then we would think that she would somehow be altered physically. If then, they're implying its by blood, then thats fucking stupid and illogical. Not only that, but she's looking for answers? How? Shogun dead, jin assumed dead, yes, drunk assassin bestie is alive but how in the world would she even find her? I don't know if they're setting it up for a 2nd season but its kind of a non-ending/ they should have just ended it with her in that scene and no "we can totally milk a season two out of this ending". Boazanian said: Um, well not too sure what to think of that ending. Seems pretty far-fetched to allow Asahi to have the blue blood so suddenly. Felt anti-climatic with the whole government situation... now that I think about it, did the govt really have that much impact in the long run? I think the amount of times I fell asleep watching this was quite worth. Asahi got a blood transfusion back in episode 9, administered by Todoroki, the guy Jin blackmailed into helping him. He gave a vial of Sawa's blood to him in that episode, which the bloke didn't want to use, but decides to anyway. We're bamboozled into thinking Jin tells him to take it like Janome and his monsters have done before, but it's actually to save Asahi. In the 8th episode, Todoroki is with Jin at the Sawa/Asahi pickup, after Jin kills Tsukishiro. Jin does tell Sawa that Asahi had been buried, but it is later implied in his conversation with Elena that he's not telling her something - which he reasons is because Sawa had "lost a brother already". So he's not telling her that Asahi is still alive, but barely, because she might not make it. That leads him to decide to gamble on the blood transfusion, since the Karasumori blood has regenerative powers. That's the reason why Asahi is later able to bond with who I presume to be Nana, like Sawa and Sawa's mother before. As for the government's power, it was already in decline by the time the series started. It had peaked, and was slowly running out of resources - the Ryumyaku. Tokugawa was a figure whose power grew in the telling, but in reality, that government was breaking down all along throughout the series, with foreign powers encroaching in multiple episodes; not only were foreign agents on the train, but they also worked with Tsukishiro, and had strongholds in Japan. Tokugawa was clinging to Ryumyaku and the promise of supremacy through Janome's experiments and Sawa's blood. He was more afraid of his personal death and loss of power than anything else, but he really was just a fragile shell at the end. He had no power left, and the people would have toppled the government either way given time. We had the boiling point in this final episode at last. So in essence, neither Sawa nor Jin really needed to kill Tokugawa. He was going down anyway, powerless to stop the civilian uprising. That was always the end point of this regime. Jin went himself because he had personal reasons to dethrone Tokugawa - Sawa only had indirect reasons, whereas Jin actually suffered directly from the actions of this Shogun.He settled a personal score as his final act, nothing more. He had to dispell that phantom from his mind. |
DarkChaplainJun 15, 2021 5:19 PM
| yeah, after reading these comments on ep12 i gotta agree with a large number of them. i watched it and LITERALLY 'gagged on my coffee' doing a spit-take when Sawa gets stabbed in the back by ... i loved the Wolverine ripoff comment, kudos to the writer... all i can think is bitch had one last LONG metal ribbon left in her and just ... whirly whisky thrashed Sawa on the inside with it. but one singular entry wound wouldn't bleed too much from damage like that. spleen. liver. the right kidney. all Sawa would show would be a long slow trickle as she bled to death internally. still a suck-ass ending to a fairly decent show. as to Asahi getting 'da blue blood' remember back when Sawa and Asahi were hiding out at the shrine? Asahi gets slashed across her back from right shoulder to left hip by 'cross dressing chick' using her 'burning edge blade'. which would cauterize the wound and possibly not kill lil Asahi outright. as to 'da blue blood' from Sawa saving Asahi and giving her 'da power' ... shrug... plot armor i guess. as to Asahi around 17 y/o basically turning herself into a photocopy of Sawa, yukata, long black hair not tied up like Sawa had it when she died, even carrying 'big sister's umbrella sword' and blondie's little girl also carrying a red parasol like mummy? check the line in Asahi's diary again... the one in English, "History repeats itself." so obviously the show runners are just setting something up for the future or... shrug... giving a lame, crappy, quasi-tragic ending a little bit of vim vigor and vitality using 'the next generation'... Boruto's Dad bullhockery anyone? :> i really liked this show, but i'm definitely putting that finale in my 'Top Worst Anime Endings'. |
just an ol school American otaku enjoyin the life. don't sass me kiddies, i've been otaku probably since before you were born. leave me in peace and i won't bother you either.  |
| This could've been so much better so much potential wasted on this. But in the end it wasn't terrible I did enjoy watching it but I just felt that things could've been done better or in a different way. And has for the ending I have mixed emotions on it. |
DarkChaplain said: DiabolicNick said: All in all a decent show. Animation was nice and story was too. The only thing that utterly gets me is the scene with Asahi at the end. Are they implying she has the karasumori powers? If so it would obviously not be by blood but in that same respect, if we are to assume that its because she had the drug or w/e you want to call it then we would think that she would somehow be altered physically. If then, they're implying its by blood, then thats fucking stupid and illogical. Not only that, but she's looking for answers? How? Shogun dead, jin assumed dead, yes, drunk assassin bestie is alive but how in the world would she even find her? I don't know if they're setting it up for a 2nd season but its kind of a non-ending/ they should have just ended it with her in that scene and no "we can totally milk a season two out of this ending". Boazanian said: Um, well not too sure what to think of that ending. Seems pretty far-fetched to allow Asahi to have the blue blood so suddenly. Felt anti-climatic with the whole government situation... now that I think about it, did the govt really have that much impact in the long run? I think the amount of times I fell asleep watching this was quite worth. Asahi got a blood transfusion back in episode 9, administered by Todoroki, the guy Jin blackmailed into helping him. He gave a vial of Sawa's blood to him in that episode, which the bloke didn't want to use, but decides to anyway. We're bamboozled into thinking Jin tells him to take it like Janome and his monsters have done before, but it's actually to save Asahi. In the 8th episode, Todoroki is with Jin at the Sawa/Asahi pickup, after Jin kills Tsukishiro. Jin does tell Sawa that Asahi had been buried, but it is later implied in his conversation with Elena that he's not telling her something - which he reasons is because Sawa had "lost a brother already". So he's not telling her that Asahi is still alive, but barely, because she might not make it. That leads him to decide to gamble on the blood transfusion, since the Karasumori blood has regenerative powers. That's the reason why Asahi is later able to bond with who I presume to be Nana, like Sawa and Sawa's mother before. As for the government's power, it was already in decline by the time the series started. It had peaked, and was slowly running out of resources - the Ryumyaku. Tokugawa was a figure whose power grew in the telling, but in reality, that government was breaking down all along throughout the series, with foreign powers encroaching in multiple episodes; not only were foreign agents on the train, but they also worked with Tsukishiro, and had strongholds in Japan. Tokugawa was clinging to Ryumyaku and the promise of supremacy through Janome's experiments and Sawa's blood. He was more afraid of his personal death and loss of power than anything else, but he really was just a fragile shell at the end. He had no power left, and the people would have toppled the government either way given time. We had the boiling point in this final episode at last. So in essence, neither Sawa nor Jin really needed to kill Tokugawa. He was going down anyway, powerless to stop the civilian uprising. That was always the end point of this regime. Jin went himself because he had personal reasons to dethrone Tokugawa - Sawa only had indirect reasons, whereas Jin actually suffered directly from the actions of this Shogun.He settled a personal score as his final act, nothing more. He had to dispell that phantom from his mind. Ah, that more or less clears it up for me. Not very easy for me to pay attention haha. Thanks |
| What a horrible ending. I was honestly going to forgive the bad writing if they could at least nail the ending but nah, they still went and had Sawa die. Her death just felt so unnecessary especially when Tokugawa had just died, there's literally no reason for her to be assassinated anymore. |
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