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May 23, 2021 7:29 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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The buildup and excitement of this match was worth it. The crowd got hot for this match from the start. Blood is spilled inside the ring as punches are thrown.

Liu fought with his heart and I think that's was was important.
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May 23, 2021 7:59 AM
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@ConceitedModesty try better with your argument. It's out on Japanese broadcast TV, numbnut.

The Megalonia boxing match between "The Hero" Mac Rosario and "King of Kings" Edison Liu, this is one HEATED match everyone wants to watch and discuss the commentary, as it'll shake up the Megalonia world once again for a winner and a loser, more than just tactical waiting to unleash at full force: the fight between human and machine, with Mac coming out on top in total ruthless unexpectation.

With this, Yuri and Joe are tied at the same fate they faced at the beginning of the seasion: Joe's Nomad behaviour post-Season 1, and Liu fighting to survive to keep Yuri's ideals alive. The concerning fact that Mac's brain is tied to a ROSCO chip, the purpose of the guinea pig experiment of the company going sky-high in a business publicity stunt, yet at the sacrifice of the user who utilizes it to the fullest. Of course, Yukiko has doubts that it'll work, and there she is in her own conducive investigations once again while Sakuma dances his worries away.

With the tulmunous expressions this episode, this season be heading to hit redemption levels at the double for everyone. All except Sakuma Asamoto, this guy will destroy more boxers' lives for any Megalo-boxer hopefuls.
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Just from the chanting, in the beginning, you could tell who was the favorite to win the match, The King of Kings, the undefeated Edison Liu. He was up against Mac Rosario, the challenger. The fight started off quite slowly progressing towards Liu's side. And, just when everyone was thinking Liu's gonna win, Mac snapped and literally pulled the soul out of Liu. That beating was something else.

Yuri's regretting his decision to put Liu into the Megalobox world and why he should've quite a long time ago. Liu's promise has to wait for some time to fight Joe after his match. Cuz, now he's in ICU fighting for his life.

Looks like the chip in Mac's brain has some serious side effects to it, I'm assuming. That was quite scary. They're definitely hiding something from Mac's family. And, what Mikio said, it's definitely pointing towards something ominous for Mac and his brain. But overall, this was one hell of a match and a great episode on top of that.
May 23, 2021 8:38 AM
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This episode isn't even out yet.


There's something called Japan TV. Japan TV episode usually comes out a few hours earlier.
May 23, 2021 8:44 AM
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Mac Time is a problem, I got scared when he went into that state around his family. Thought something really bad was gonna happen. The match between Mac and Liu definitely didn't go the way I expected. Liu had Mac at the edge for a minute but Mac just unloaded on him, I'm guessing that he doesn't remember doing that since it was mac time. Liu ended up clobbered with some brain damage, that brain chip that Mac has is very dangerous if it can cause someone to just switch on a dime like he did in the ring. Going from almost out to being able to pivot to an insane combo, that's not normal. Yuri must've seen something since he knew to throw the towel in. I hope that Liu can recover so him and Joe may have that rematch. Sakuma better fix that brain chip before a major accident happens.
May 23, 2021 9:12 AM
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Banger the fight was amazing.

Mac time is controlled by the chip. Shirato is in trouble.

The joker dance tho. That guy is sus

I want joe x shirato owner ship. Ah. The way she looks at her hand where joe touches in season 1 is still in my mind
May 23, 2021 9:29 AM
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What I post last week, quite close.
phantomfandom said:
I love the way the anime hype Mac, now we don't know for sure who'll win. But I've to admit that the brain chip seems fishy, but I'm not saying that the new CEO is a villain who try to control the world via brain chip, but there might be some flaws that no one knows that gives Mac an unfair advantage or even disadvantage. We'll have to observe him closely.

Poor Liu, I think at least he won't be able to boxing again, but I hope at least he won't end up like Yuri or worse. Maybe I should sign up to be his live-in caregiver in hope that I can have a "Liu Time" LOL

But let's talk about dangerous from boxing, which I believe this sports should only exist in fiction world. There's real damage here even without machine enhancement. And my country has a particularly dangerous type of boxing named after my country's name which allow kicking and controversially most boxers are trained since childhood.
May 23, 2021 10:01 AM
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That was amazing.. what a fucking knock out
I wonder if Joe will fight Mac..
Hell of an episode
May 23, 2021 10:04 AM
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Guess the plot is finally set.. the bad guys, the not so bad guys and the victims.. all are set..
its about damn time we see some our NOMAD in the ring..
like c'mon! 60% of the anime is done..
May 23, 2021 10:36 AM

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I was hoping we'd avoid the mad scientist trope, but it looks like Sakuma is not quite as innocent or altruistic as he first appeared.

Looks like Yukiko's brother is planning to blow the world's biggest whistle. I have a bad feeling that it might be too late for Mac, though...
*Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.*
May 23, 2021 10:47 AM
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is Mac based off of Jose Mendoza from Ashita no joe?
May 23, 2021 11:13 AM
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I was expecting a sakuga fight after the last episode.
But meh
9/10
May 23, 2021 11:43 AM

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Damn he beat the shit out of Liu. The scene where he took his kid's food and ate it from the ground weirded me out. I'm expecting more drama soon.
May 23, 2021 1:10 PM

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ROSCO def knows whats wrong with Mac nd is hiding it


I want ramen now that I saw it in this episode


7/10 episode overall
May 23, 2021 1:35 PM
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The bird emblem on Joe's new gear probably will make Mac Time even crazier and much longer when they fight
May 23, 2021 1:36 PM

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damn i almost thought liu was wiping the floor with him but i forgot about mac time

as soon as i saw it i thought the BES is doping him isnt it but it seems to be a bit more dangerous then that, i mean look at when hes with his kid there could be a bad situation there..

so my prediction came right about mac winning now i wonder if hes gonna fight joe in that state
May 23, 2021 2:21 PM

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Welp that's it for Lui and as for Mac, looks like he's suffering from a side effect of the implant....
May 23, 2021 3:04 PM
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Rosco's shadiness continues to grow as we step further toward the end of this season. It has at least doubled since last week's episode. The BES must remove inhibitors, among other things. How hard did Mac hit Liu that he's in a life-threatening coma?

Not much Joe this week, but this episode went by pretty quick nevertheless. At this point I'm not even so sure I want Joe to get wrapped up in such a life-threatening match. I'd be fine with him simply being an advocate against Rosco and relying on the media to win this battle. Though if anyone could beat Mac, it'll probably end up being Joe.

Also, I fear for the structural integrity of Nowhere Gym with this looming storm.
"...Is your mother worried? Would you like us to assign someone to worry your mother?"
May 23, 2021 3:21 PM
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Rosco's shadiness continues to grow as we step further toward the end of this season. It has at least doubled since last week's episode. The BES must remove inhibitors, among other things. How hard did Mac hit Liu that he's in a life-threatening coma?

Not much Joe this week, but this episode went by pretty quick nevertheless. At this point I'm not even so sure I want Joe to get wrapped up in such a life-threatening match. I'd be fine with him simply being an advocate against Rosco and relying on the media to win this battle. Though if anyone could beat Mac, it'll probably end up being Joe.

Also, I fear for the structural integrity of Nowhere Gym with this looming storm.
Something is going to cause Joe to fight Mac.
May 23, 2021 3:40 PM
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commonxreaction said:
Rosco's shadiness continues to grow as we step further toward the end of this season. It has at least doubled since last week's episode. The BES must remove inhibitors, among other things. How hard did Mac hit Liu that he's in a life-threatening coma?

Not much Joe this week, but this episode went by pretty quick nevertheless. At this point I'm not even so sure I want Joe to get wrapped up in such a life-threatening match. I'd be fine with him simply being an advocate against Rosco and relying on the media to win this battle. Though if anyone could beat Mac, it'll probably end up being Joe.

Also, I fear for the structural integrity of Nowhere Gym with this looming storm.
Something is going to cause Joe to fight Mac.


Might be something to do with Chief. We got that little foreshadowy flash of insight from Joe in this episode which had him connecting something about Chief and Mac. So... maybe Joe will feel inclined to get involved for the sake of Chief. Otherwise, perhaps Rosco will just want to continue to test their product by forcing Joe, a legend, to face the current champion, Mac.

Lot of different options, this season really isn't showing its hand as much as the previous one was.
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May 23, 2021 4:40 PM

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I'm eating crow today because I wasn't expecting all those revelations about Rosco today.
I just couldn't believe believe that they had the gall to mislead Shirato.
May 23, 2021 4:41 PM

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Man, one thing that I like about the direction so far is that, with everyone given same equal importance, you don't know what shape the anime is gonna turn itself in. Really love that display of uncertainty here.
May 23, 2021 4:45 PM

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commonxreaction said:
Foxbox360 said:
Something is going to cause Joe to fight Mac.


Might be something to do with Chief. We got that little foreshadowy flash of insight from Joe in this episode which had him connecting something about Chief and Mac. So... maybe Joe will feel inclined to get involved for the sake of Chief. Otherwise, perhaps Rosco will just want to continue to test their product by forcing Joe, a legend, to face the current champion, Mac.

Lot of different options, this season really isn't showing its hand as much as the previous one was.


Oh that's a good insight. Joe will feel the destiny as he takes on Mac, in whom he saw the chief's image.
May 23, 2021 6:01 PM

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It is destined that boxers of "Ashita no Joe" series become disabled with high probability. In the case of Mac, the situation may be similar to "Flowers for Algernon".
May 23, 2021 6:30 PM

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Great episode, that ending bit was really ominous. I can't tell if the ROSCO kid is hiding something or is also just unaware of the side effects, since he seems very genuine with Mac's family.
May 23, 2021 7:17 PM

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Damn you, Nomad! I thought maybe, just maybe, the rich tech genius was gonna remain a good guy.

Thanks for continuing the trope. I feel as tired as almost everybody looks in this episode.
May 23, 2021 8:01 PM

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Well Liu is almost dead, because Joe friends can't catch a break.

I really thought that Mac would beat the shit out of his son, than just steal the food. I predict in a close future Mac will lose control and beat his wife, then try to abandon Megalo Box.
On another side would be great Mac lose control and beat the Rosco CEO. To the CEO lose more time.

Now that Yukiko have the info, she will play cool for now and just before the Rosco downfall, play the cards to get out winning.
May 23, 2021 11:22 PM
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Mac Time is a problem, I got scared when he went into that state around his family. Thought something really bad was gonna happen. The match between Mac and Liu definitely didn't go the way I expected. Liu had Mac at the edge for a minute but Mac just unloaded on him, I'm guessing that he doesn't remember doing that since it was mac time. Liu ended up clobbered with some brain damage, that brain chip that Mac has is very dangerous if it can cause someone to just switch on a dime like he did in the ring. Going from almost out to being able to pivot to an insane combo, that's not normal. Yuri must've seen something since he knew to throw the towel in. I hope that Liu can recover so him and Joe may have that rematch. Sakuma better fix that brain chip before a major accident happens.
The end of last season and this season especially shows just how dangerous of a sport megalo boxing is. The settlement chief died Liu has brain damage, Joe received massive chronic pain though that might have been drugs. And liu mentor is in a wheel chair thanks to his fight with joe last season. If theirs one thing I like about this show it's that the fights have stakes. I just hope something terrible doesn't happen to sachio.
May 24, 2021 12:10 AM
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This match went to Liu and Mac's fate, I guess. Although both still have a faint hope.
I realized importance of life. Dying and beating are different.
May 24, 2021 1:47 AM

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event still are saddening...
the tech company keeps getting more profits but it destroys other people lives...
5/5.


May 24, 2021 2:14 AM

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Great episode, that ending bit was really ominous. I can't tell if the ROSCO kid is hiding something or is also just unaware of the side effects, since he seems very genuine with Mac's family.

...until Mac's wife and son left and he asked his secretary how many SECONDS they lost because of them.
Maybe they're not crooked but they're far from genuine.
May 24, 2021 3:52 AM

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Dukino said:
Mac Time is a problem, I got scared when he went into that state around his family. Thought something really bad was gonna happen. The match between Mac and Liu definitely didn't go the way I expected. Liu had Mac at the edge for a minute but Mac just unloaded on him, I'm guessing that he doesn't remember doing that since it was mac time. Liu ended up clobbered with some brain damage, that brain chip that Mac has is very dangerous if it can cause someone to just switch on a dime like he did in the ring. Going from almost out to being able to pivot to an insane combo, that's not normal. Yuri must've seen something since he knew to throw the towel in. I hope that Liu can recover so him and Joe may have that rematch. Sakuma better fix that brain chip before a major accident happens.


Yep, when he had his son up in the air i thought we were heading for an absolute tragedy...
May 24, 2021 5:42 AM
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This starting to be pretty dark. I love it!
May 24, 2021 6:24 AM

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I was expecting a sakuga fight after the last episode.
But meh
9/10
Instead we got sakuga dancing at the end.
May 24, 2021 8:35 AM

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So I'm assuming that's why Mac punched Liu after the towel was thrown. Because Mac wasn't really in control during Mac Time.
May 24, 2021 8:45 AM

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Ok then, I take back what I said about Sakuma being a genuinely good dude last episode, dude don't give a fuck about Mac and he seems really childish. F's in chat to Liu though, that last punch sounded like it broke a lot of shit in his head. Pretty interesting though, Mac is probably related to Chief's community and that hummingbird imagery when he was out of it in Mac Time.

Sheesh, that scared the fuck outta me when Mac went into Mac Time while he was playing with his kid, I thought he was about to beat the shit of his kid. Glad he just went feral with the food, but that's still not a really good sign. I really like Mikio now, his development is awesome, and he's out here making thesis. I hope Yukiko finds some dirt on Rosco, ain't gonna let that defective ass product get in the market.

The ending scenes was beautiful though, they're setting up another typhoon incident, but this time Joe will experience it, maybe this will be a way for him to reconcile with the kids. And then we have Sakuma dancing like an evil scientist. Really looking forward to the next episode.
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I'm really liking that Shirata lady with her shorter hairstyle. She belongs in a manwha...

(...with ecchi/hentai elements!)

About that chip in Mac's brain, though. It reminds me of that one group in Kengan Ashura where the fighters were able to unlock the full "potential" of their brains (because according to them, the average person is only using 10% of their physical potential). I'm wondering if that chip is similar in that it unlocks that potential, or at the very least heightens his senses/reflexes/power, etc. Looks like the chip is the new type of "gear"?
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They are all going to die
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Joe should have instructed Liu in how to receive blows to the face. After all, S1 Joe used to receive them almost on daily basis and then brush them off as if they were nothing. Plot armor what?

Honestly, the first 12 or so minutes featuring the fight were brilliant but regarding the rest of the episode, I'm not sure if I like this new "evil ROSCO corporation" sub-plot. Can we please return to Joe and his road to redemption?

Also, was it really necessary to have ROSCO nerd doing the freaking Joker dance?
May 24, 2021 10:36 PM
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That's kinda depressing really... Mac beat Liua but seems like both are in a very mental cerebral situation, Liu is on the verge of dying and Mac has some serious problems... even Joe is bad with the typhoon now.
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Joe should have instructed Liu in how to receive blows to the face. After all, S1 Joe used to receive them almost on daily basis and then brush them off as if they were nothing. Plot armor what?

Honestly, the first 12 or so minutes featuring the fight were brilliant but regarding the rest of the episode, I'm not sure if I like this new "evil ROSCO corporation" sub-plot. Can we please return to Joe and his road to redemption?

Also, was it really necessary to have ROSCO nerd doing the freaking Joker dance?


You are rather alone in this opinion. The last sequence of the episode is brilliant and gives the perfect feeling of "the storm is coming" - both literally and figuratively, telling the audience something bad is about to happen.

And "the road to redemption"? Wat?
Redemption for what? The whole point is that Joe has been punishing himself unnecessarily for something that was out of his control! He thought he killed his mentor ffs!
May 25, 2021 12:16 PM

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@eryamar

I couldn't care less if I'm the only one with this opinion. Wouldn't be the first time given I'm also among those few ones who consider season 1 to be quite the disappointment.

I'm sorry you had to waste your first post quoting me. I have no intention in discussing this show particularly.
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@eryamar

I couldn't care less if I'm the only one with this opinion. Wouldn't be the first time given I'm also among those few ones who consider season 1 to be quite the disappointment.

I'm sorry you had to waste your first post quoting me. I have no intention in discussing this show particularly.


Naive of you to think it's my first🤣

And "couldn't care less" is usually always used by the ones who care the most and are trying to act cool because of it. Pathetic losers. You write to scream your shit opinion here and then try to downplay as if you don't care to discuss 🤣 Try being more believable, pal.

Also, not "in the few". I said "the only one". While the minority is usually more right than the majority, but when it's one clown screaming into the void, it's usually just someone being delusional 🤣
May 25, 2021 2:37 PM
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I knew there was something wrong with that BES chip that was planted in Mac's brain. It's starting to trigger a series behavioral issues that he cannot control and he is putting himself and his family in danger. Hopefully, Yukiko can find out whats wrong with the chip before its too late. Another typhoon is coming.
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I've noticed that Megalobox has put little elements of the boxing rivals from the original Ashita no Joe into the boxers in this series, but the only one I thought they would never bother referencing was Harimao (this dude was a basically random tribesman who couldn't even speak and was always acting wild in the ring and doing over the top things like bouncing off the ropes, it was very dumb and out of place in the original, probably the worst part of the series especially since it interrupts the flow of the last few story arcs). Mac Time is basically their way of doing Harimao but in a much more interesting way and I never thought I would see that so that's actually pretty cool and I only felt the need to mention it cos I'm sure barely anyone else would notice it.
May 25, 2021 7:25 PM

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So, I see two possible endings to the Joe vs Mac fight.
Either Mac loses due to brain damage and becomes a vegetable again, or Joe wins and dies by the pure beating he will get in the ring. I never noticed it during season 1, but this particular fight said "Limitless rounds" that´s batshit insane for a sport. They were basically saying "someone will end up destroyed after this fight" and they delivered.

On a side note, I did liked the joker dance in the end. Dude is not "evil" per se, but is far from being a good guy. He´s there for the money and clout Mac is giving his company.

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is Mac based off of Jose Mendoza from Ashita no joe?

I think that yes. Jose Mendoza also lives a happy life with his wife and son; Mendoza also had a great fear to the defeat (what i think is the problem that Mac have).
May 26, 2021 2:30 AM
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Foxbox360 said:
is Mac based off of Jose Mendoza from Ashita no joe?

I think that yes. Jose Mendoza also lives a happy life with his wife and son; Mendoza also had a great fear to the defeat (what i think is the problem that Mac have).
Then Joe's fate is clear
May 26, 2021 1:13 PM

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It keeps getting better and better and that weird Joker dance that guy is def not right in his mind.

My love for both Mac and Liu went even higher animation was not focused on the match tho but I see what they did there.
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Damn this show aint letting them characters to be happy huh...also, that guy dancing at the end was hella creepy.
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