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Dec 25, 2008 10:33 PM
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This really hits home.
BourskDec 20, 2009 10:45 PM
Nov 7, 2009 2:45 PM
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Really loved it. Was quite epic for being so short. The intensity from Rheindars at the end was...well...intense.
Aug 3, 2010 10:51 AM
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Liked the main character, amazing animation and the ending was very good. The female lead felt too theatrical... didn't like the forced romance at all.
Aug 8, 2011 1:23 AM
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A little bit of action and romance in it's 20 minutes plus duration. It was short but I liked it still.
You see there's no need to wonder where your god is,
Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy.
Jul 9, 2012 9:34 PM
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you get a pilot marked as a coward to escort THE MOST IMPORTANT CARGO KNOWN TO MAN.

And Maetel - I mean Melhenna - says "if we didn't build it someone else would" then moments later goes 180 :P Sheesh, typical woman eh. w/e, I'd rather someone else make some sort of decision, let the other guys drop it or something. At least my ass won't be going to hell.

Decent for 20 minutes despite my niggling. I appreciate the sentiment. Harlock should've died though. w/e, I let that spitfire kill all my friends and betrayed my country. At least I pwned his ass afterwards. I take care of (those that take care of) my dirty work like a Real Man.

JK
Jul 2, 2014 7:18 PM
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What a fool.

Instead of serving his country, protecting his love and redeeming his honour he chooses death for all.

Rheindars chooses to lose everything to do what save American or British lives? He says he can live with his decision but as history shows the loss of the war was disastrous for Germany.

He might have saved a city's worth of lives but has directly caused suffering for every German as the famine, tyranny, oppression, poverty, inflation, etc followed Germany's unconditional surrender.

Had Germany at that point still had atom bombs they could have easily leveraged peace instead guaranteeing a better outcome for the German people.
Dec 9, 2014 7:22 PM
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What a fool.

Instead of serving his country, protecting his love and redeeming his honour he chooses death for all.

Rheindars chooses to lose everything to do what save American or British lives? He says he can live with his decision but as history shows the loss of the war was disastrous for Germany.

He might have saved a city's worth of lives but has directly caused suffering for every German as the famine, tyranny, oppression, poverty, inflation, etc followed Germany's unconditional surrender.

Had Germany at that point still had atom bombs they could have easily leveraged peace instead guaranteeing a better outcome for the German people.


There's nothing honourable about serving your country when that means helping your country in its role as the genocidal aggressor.

As for protecting his love, perhaps you missed the part where she said she wanted not to reach the base.

A better outcome for the German people, yes (those who weren't gay, disabled, politically inconvenient or ethnically undesirable anyway). And then everyone else would have had to suffer the way Germany did, only far worse since it would be Hitler with his finger on the button, the atrocities committed by the Nazis would be allowed to continue without resistance, Japan's atrocities in Asia too for that matter.

That said, I don't think any of the characters in this were actually critical of how their own country would act given the tools to win the war, it seems they were more concerned about the unacceptable nature of the weapon itself, it betrays the Japanese perspective from which it was written.
TopgunUKDec 9, 2014 7:39 PM
Jun 30, 2015 10:13 AM
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love me some Leiji-brand cheese

+∑10¾(36÷(20÷(6¼³)))² points for starting it off with the classic Maetel babe
May 1, 2016 1:53 PM
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Great show for only 20 minutes long! It makes you think too - about using the A-bomb... We all know who was crazy enough to use it...
Nov 1, 2017 1:05 PM

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Totally amazing first episode if you ask me! The Leiji touch really makes it awesome!
Nov 19, 2017 4:13 AM

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This is the first time I see Nazi symbol in anime, Weird but cool at the same time.

English is my second language
Dec 23, 2017 1:39 PM

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Even though Rheindars was called a coward in two separate occasions, the fact is he never sold his soul to the devil.

Great episode.
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove

Mar 31, 2019 5:04 PM

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Though I like this a lot it still made me feel a bit uncomfortable.
KristiwazhereMar 31, 2019 5:32 PM
Aug 10, 2020 7:31 PM

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Well shit.. glad I discovered this obscure anime. Fantastic first episode and great atmosphere throughout.

I really REALLY miss this type of art style in anime. Brings me back to the good old days.
Aug 29, 2022 1:05 PM

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It was interesting to see how quickly an honourable pilot could become a coward from choosing what he felt was the right call at the time.


Apr 30, 2023 10:44 PM

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I got some anti America vibes from some of the repeating dialogue about selling your soul to the devil lol
May 20, 2023 9:51 AM
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Anyone know where i can see this anime?
Jul 23, 2023 8:08 PM

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He couldn't bear the thought of a nuclear weapon being used, so he chose to let a spitfire take it out, while knowing that the woman he loved was onboard. He knew that's what she wanted, so he had no regrets, although I imagine one would get a little PTSD from an event like that.

Dec 6, 2023 10:26 PM
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.........good stuff...........

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