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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- That was a pretty epic death for Glemy, nice drama. EDIT: Wait, I think Sayla was in this episode too. For some inexplicable reason she's one of my favourite characters in the MSG franchise, so anytime I see her I perk up. But man she's been used so randomly in this series. We get no explanation for how Leina was saved, which is surprising because anime shows generally love to spell everything out, but now in this one case where I actually really want to know what happened...they dont spill the beans. Because the writers suck! |
BeatnikAug 3, 2008 3:06 PM
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| Yeah, I thought her surviving for some unknown reason was just ... meh. |
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| I thought it was fitting how Glemy met his death. Considering his infatuation with Roux. Oh, and I liked Sayla in 0079 as well. |
| I liked Glemy's death, nicely done by Roux I'd say. But indeed the whole Leina thing is just definitely mishandled I believe. |
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| Very good episode. A lot of talking, but I could deal with it. Glemy dies & don't really know how to feel about it. He really is an @$$hole, but I also felt sorry for him. My fav mobile suits go down, too. Goodbye Mk. II, goodbye Zeta! T__T It looks like the rebellion is over w/ Glemy & Rakan dead & Puru Two defecting. Now it looks like its time for Judau and Haman to go at it. The Federation keeps being brought up in conversation throughout these eps, but I'm sure they have no intention of stepping in at anytime. They're just there like vultures to pick up the pieces. |
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| Omg, there was Sayla and she even spoke!! :D Great episode I think. At the end I almost though that Elle and Lu didn't make it in time, but fortunatelly they do~ |
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Beatnik said: We get no explanation for how Leina was saved, which is surprising because anime shows generally love to spell everything out, but now in this one case where I actually really want to know what happened...they dont spill the beans. Because the writers suck! That's Tomino for you. I personally love how he doesn't take the time to spell everything out, because it affects the pace and makes stuff drawn out where it shouldn't be, but back in Zeta even I was annoyed at this tendency. It's like "why are they fighting these guys, what happened between this episode and the last one?" But just think of it this way; does it really matter how Leina was saved? |
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| Nice to see Sayla again! Same with Bright actually. I wonder if was being called out to be assigned to the London Bell when he said he was going somewhere... Mentions of Char during the conversation as well, building up tension for Counterattack I guess. |
| Were Axis and Core 3 evacuated? Otherwise, a shitload of civilians must've died in this episode. No one seemed to give a shit so maybe there weren't any people there. |
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| Glemy died by his beloved. Nice way of dying, but i thought he could be left alive. He was, by far, one of the best characters of this show(ok, the characters on this show sucks). Sayla, finally you appeared *-* Hope you get more attention on the net titles. I really can't understand why the Argama took action now. Why don't just let Glemy and Haman finish their battle and then do something? So, they've lost both of their most powerful weapons just before the last battle... |
| Glemy is the only one who got a proper death XD Zeta and MK II NOOOOO D: |
| So Leina did get out of the burning building after all? I can't believe they're so weak as to just show Judau's little sister fine as if her survival is no big deal. That totally cheapens Judau and Puru's big loss after everything they went through to save her. Eugh, that makes me so mad. Oh! But Sayla! I love Sayla so much. :) She's so right to bash Bright over not so much as writing to his wife and children! I am so disappointed in him! I like Char Aznable's name being (awkwardly) brought up (in full), too!~ Lolol, for hilarity's sake, I keep wondering if he's disguised himself as Lady Chara Znable to keep an eye on all the events while keeping his identity secret. It's a far better cover than Lieutenant Quatro. I don't blame him if he fled from this out-of-place comedy with too make nonsensical moments, though. (Err--Why was Sayla even here, though? Was she seriously just used as a plot device to bring up Char's name? Is he going to show up later in the series or something? If so, Double Zeta, please do not mess up the best antagonist in animated history.) Glemy died, too! I don't understand. He went from an admittedly nonthreatening well-mannered and proper babysitter for Leina to for some reason having this great Newtype creation that scares even Haman and now he's dead. I really don't follow some things. >_< But yay. Maybe now two cute Purus. Puru's okay.<3 |
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| This was a good episode indeed. Death was very well done. Then again, this is the second last episode, so I didn't expect less. It's kinda awesome how the newtype powers have evolved so much they can sense if someone dies. xD Someone may find that stupid, but I personally love it. |
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| Glemy was a great villain. I loved seeing his decent into a crazed madman hellbent on overthrowing haman. His death was both fitting and satisfying. Good ep but as others said they fucked up miserably with the leina plotpoint. Should had left the moeblob dead |
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| Yay, Sayla! I'm glad they finally gave her some lines and a longer cameo. I don't even care about the whole Leina subplot; I liked Leina, so her being alive is a-okay with me. I totally forgot Glemy liked Roux with how it was handled, but being killed by her was a nice touch. Nothing a man could want more than to be killed by his beloved. It's almost too good for him. xD |
| Sayla!...and she even spoke?! I'm honestly glad to just see her. And Glemy died, didn't care that much about his character honestly but his death was quite well done. (if not the best in this show). |
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| Poor Glemy. Such a short rebellion! |
| Wow what an episode!! First off, finally they showed Bright after all this time. Damn, Sayla rocking those shades just like Char! Definitely Char's sister :) And yeah, we haven't feel Char's presence at all after he was supposed disappeared during the final battle in Zeta Gundam. Seems Bright is afraid on what he does next. Why is that? Char is part of Argama afterall. I'm really curious what he plans on doing after this. I also don't get about the multiple Qubeley's. So they appeared with Puru then disappeared? Seems there are multiple Puru's piloting. Damn, Judau destroyed Rakan, definitely got owned as hell. And that Glemy, still controlling and going his way with women. Wow when Kamille's , Fa and Leina and Puru's voice came up, Judau gave an amazing speech on what life is and how everything did started on Earth. Coupled that with Zeta's end theme, one of the best scenes in the whole series for sure. Despite Glemy trying to forget Roux, in the end he still loved her. And yeah a fitting end. I was hoping some epic battle with Judau or Roux, but it seems we'll save that for Haman. I really thought Roux and Elle would die here, but i'm glad Judau saved them. Shame Zeta and Mk II got left behind, but i know they could always make another one in the near future. Last episode. Man i really can't wait on how will they wrap this up. Will Char finally show up? Amuro? Will Chara and her other knight dies? Will Haman Dies? Mineva will escape once again, Will Judau be mind fucked like what happened to Kamille? So many questions! Here we go last episode! T___T |
| That was awesome we finally got to see Sayla and she even talked, I'm glad Leina is walking again, I was worried she'd be stuck in that wheelchair. Judau's speech was incredible, so damn good it echoed throughout the cosmos. I also really liked how Glemmy's death was handled, its rather heartwarming to know that even after so much has changed he still cared about Roux. About Leina's survival I believe I may have a explanation remember during the Dakar speech back in Zeta wasn't Sayla living in some kind of island mansion? and Leina also "died" on an island, well what if they were both on the same one?. She could have been woken up by the sound of mobile suits and found Leina in that old hut and carried her off before the explosion got her. Can't wait to see the ending! |
Bubcus993Feb 14, 2015 5:35 AM
stand said: ^This.Fitting death for Glemy. He had changed so much that I had almost forgotten that he was infatuated with Roux in the beginning of this. |
| So now this episode bright says chars somewhere out there observing , earlier saying amuro somewhere out in space and can't help .. so obviousthey're just saving them for chars counter attack, but it would have been nice to even have just one cameo of either or both of them at some point in zz Looks like everything is wrapping up, now judau just has to beat haman really. Since there's only one episode there's not going to be a lot of time for wrapping up loose story ends ..from what I hear chars counteract has little to do with ZZ specifically . I know there are some Manga shorts related to zz and I think judau makes an apperance in one of the c r ossbone Manga seralizations. I'll Def be checking out a few of those once I finish up watching the main gundam series . |
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| Was cool to briefly see Sayla, Bright, and Leina. Though the deaths in the past two episodes have felt rushed to me, it was a nice touch that Roux killed Glemy. Judau's monologue or whatever you want to call it was nice too. Hope the battle with Haman will be cool. It only occurring over one episode has me worried though. I'm also curious how many people died when Core 3 and Axis collided because we know Glemy was with a good amount of other people in a command room in Axis, but colonies have populations in the millions. And I may or may not be salty that the Zeta and Mk II met their ends already. This is not how I wanted them to go, I was hoping they would stick around longer. They deserved better imo. At least Roux and Elle are ok though |
| Gotta love Glemy's tactics. Glemy: "THROW A BIG ROCK AT THEM!" Soldier: "What if that doesn't work?" Glemy: "THROW A BIGGER ROCK AT THEM!" I like the "Giant fuck-you laser" approach to Gundam battles better, but that's just me. |
| Leina magically surviving was the biggest asspull in this series and Glemy's 180 turnabout made it even more convoluted than it is already. |
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| Great episode, the Ple / Two scenes were good, Judau's speech was very good too despite how "child program" it might seem. I liked how Glemy was killed. That's always surprising to see pilots get out of their suit wth absolutely no risk. Bonus: Roux got rid of him herself. (her line was a bit strange toward a romantic fool who developed into a maniac illegitimate dictator heir who loved war) I disliked him already but the way he treated his "creation" was shameless and made me hate him. Glad Ple Two survived him (I was certain she would stupidly die by defending him (Lalah & co.) Bright said: He could be watching us from somewhere. And what could he be planning... The next movie? (nice lure) However that's quite dangerous, isn't it. Maybe I'm not good enough in english but I did not understand what this sentence was supposed to mean. (Bright to Sayla) edit: "But I feel there is some danger." Better sentence from Bandai. Question: where is the Ple battalion? Are all the Qubeley destroyed despite the lack of funnels MS among the opponents ? o_O 5/5 I can't wait to see the children get out of this war. |
Rei_IIIOct 20, 2017 3:28 PM
It totally runs in the family, right? Her appearance was easily my favorite portion of the episode; not that the rest was bad by any means, mind you, but as a Sayla fangirl I was really glad to hear her voice after such a long time, plus we finally got hints at Char's survival (and a bonus scolding for Bright's lack of diligence regarding his family). I still fail to understand why the Nahel Argama would meddle in Glemy and Haman's little war instead of just letting them destroy each other to finally attack the weakened surviving faction, but it's hardly as nonsensical as the AEUG's decision to turn on Axis while still in conflict with Scirocco's fleet back in Zeta, so I'm willing to let that slide. Other than that we were blessed with yet another beautifully fitting death this episode, which would've admittedly had much more impact if Glemy and Roux's romance subplot had been treated decently from the beginning. I still don't like Glemy and I still believe his sudden turn into a villain was poorly foreshadowed and felt completely shoe-horned, but he really couldn't have died in a better fashion so at least, there's that. I'm also agreeably surprised that Judau's monologue didn't come off as "Jesus-like MC talk-no-jutsu 101": his experiences on Earth, which happened to be the only part where the show was consistently good, added the necessary weight to his words in order for his passionate speech not to ring hollow. Still a bit too by the books in its presentation, but felt genuine nonetheless. So yeah, a very good episode, which hopefully will be followed by an equally good finale. Rei366 said: That's what I'm wondering, too. Maybe they got squattered in the confusion and each went in different directions? Also, the only member of the PIe squad that we were allowed to see seemed to be a (very?) young woman as well. Could it be that those Newtypes were other PIe clones, created hastily in preparation for the final battle against Haman's forces?Question: where is the Ple battalion? Are all the Qubeley destroyed despite the lack of funnels MS among the opponents ? o_O However that's quite dangerous, isn't it. Maybe I'm not good enough in english but I did not understand what this sentence was supposed to mean. (Bright to Sayla) |
SapewlothJul 25, 2016 1:03 AM
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| @Sapewloth Yes, this is a battalion only made of Ple(s). I think your hypothesis is confirmed in Gundam Evolve 10, an episode of a short animation collection made to promote different Gunpla. Thank you for the clarification, the subtitle was badly phrased. |
Well, you know when I saw Leina I remembered of this scene of Gineiden. |
| What the hell? This was a great episode! Im sure the ending will be disappointing though! But YAY FOR SAYLA! |
| I didn't expect Glemy's death to be so sentimental. Losing everything and being vaporised by the woman he loved. At least Ple Two is (somewhat) fine. |
| Fantastic episode and I do not have much to add as everybody has summed up my sentiments exactly! Yes, was awesome to see and HEAR Sayla. I wonder for the last episode we'll see Char.. Judau is already one of my favorite characters in the Gundam franchise and that speech brought it to different levels. Judau has consistantly rocked this entire series! From 0079 and Zeta, I was not able to say that about Armuro and Kamille. RIP, Glemy. What a death that was. |
| Damn MK II & Z got REKT and finally Glemy Toto is gone, you see kids that is why you don’t f*cking leave your cockpit *Sigh* Who is going to be next? |
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| Nice to see Sayla and Leina again. Glemy has finally been defeated, by Roux Louka, the girl he had a crush on. Ple Two is with the Gundam team, and hopefully she'll be alright, but it looks like the Zeta and Mark II are toast, as they were left behind at Axis. |
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| Masyhmre already had a pretty cool death, but this one was epic. R.I.P. Glemy, you were really an interesting character. |
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| Excellent episode! Basically, the AEUG fought Glemy and his new type battalion. We got to see Leina and Sayla Mass again. Sayla questioned where Char was and if he was planning something, knowing fully well that he is alive. Poor Puru Two was just being manipulated by Glemy for his own benefit. In the end, Glemy no longer had Puru Two on his side and Puru (the original) told her that Judau was a kind person and then Judau picked up Puru Two and in a sad fashion, Roux Louka (Glemys love interest) ended up killing him and they escaped while Axis crumbled. Glemy was wanting to make Core 3 / Axis collide with Side 3. There's so many innocent people there, that's mass murder all for control. Glemy's thirst for power led to his demise. Judau's speech was a nice touch aswell, knowing that Earth is polluted and the colonies are overpopulated. Judau wanted to see a new vision for humanities future. Very good episode, 1 more left :( |
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| AAAAAAARGHGF SAYLA’S VOICE Bright is also back, does it mean that he left Argama not because of his seiyuu being busy? Or was it such a short period that he returned for the concluding episodes? We also finally see some Federation spaceships aside from Argama and La Vie en Rose :p Didn’t expect Chara’s mobile suit to have funnels too. Same with Glemy using Moussa (=that asteroid attached to Axis) as a weapon. Weren’t people living there? O_O Or at least there were docks there. After Judau kills Rakan, Moussa is seen attached to Axis again. Animation mistake. And then Axis is used as a weapon. Just like in Zeta. “I chose a harsh life to live” – wow, did you, Glemy? That’s some galactic-level arrogance, living in a palace with Haman surely seems harsh, not like those kids on Shangri-La working as junk dealers… Ple Two shouldn't have survived the explosion, bad physics. Plus the Ple squad got kinda forgotten. But I'll let that slide, the episode was great. Glemy's death was well-handled, Roux blasted him with a laser beam, and he wasn't even inside the mobile suit! So basically Glemy burned to ashes :o |
St0rmbladeJul 3, 2020 4:49 AM
| finally the blonde haired guy is finally dead and was killed by Roux like she should have done much earlier smh ..... a lot of things could have gone better if she just would have killed him when she had the chance when they met but of course not and be cause of that made a shit ton of problems smh i knew the blonde guy was gonna be around for pretty much the whole series there's one in pretty much every gundam series but my god finally also already calling it puru 2 will end up dead as well..... it was already bad enough with puru dying like she did so im sure puru 2 will also die anyway time for the final ep |
| "one step at a time" |
| How Leina was saved? Nice speech Judau. My husbando died :( |
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| Appreciated Judau's speech, it was cool seeing Bright and Sayla together again, even if it was brief. Still no explanation on how Leina was saved from the exploding building exactly, but I can look it over I guess. I didin't expect to care when Glemy died but it hit me a little bit. He's been around for so long and although he is despicable I can't help but like him for some odd reason. Roux taking him out was NOT something I expected however. A very fitting end for him I would say. Not sure what they are going to do with Puru 2 in the final episode, but I guess I shall see. I think Chara is at least still alive as well, so hopefully they don't kill her off in the last episode. Really enjoyed this episode, and I'm looking forward to watching the finale. |
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| RIP bozo, the first (and I'm hoping he was the worst) Char clone |
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| truly a beautiful episode for me, i liked it a lot. Judeau's speech was very good and i loved to see sayla once again |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| Glemmy was probably the most interesting character in the show, so I'm glad he got a fitting send off at least. |
| Char made a good choice just to observe all the shenanigans from afar. I'd like to see him more but it was for the best he stayed out of ZZ after all. I can't imagine his character not being butchered if that wasn't the case. Leina ending up alive kinda cheapens the development Judou went through. Especially with Sayla randomly getting brought into this. She probably survived by some newtype power, but ugh. What's the big deal keeping it secret and making Judou suffer, as well as causing Ple's guilt over the whole thing? Makes me wonder if Ple would have lived had she not been weighed down by all that. |
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