Overlord Episode 4 Discussion

Iazrien said:


Many of us will disagree but if you so blatantly don't like it just drop there series I'm sure not many of us will miss you and you might just be doing yourself a service. But to me it seems like you want it to be something that it already established it isn't and you disagree with it but it never lead you to believe it was anything else in the first place.

Shiba- said:
"Shit. So freaking cool, Lord Ains."
This is exactly my reaction.

I wish they go into more expository detail about the Slane Theocracy/classes/Yggdrasil and whatnot. Seems like world building is an important aspect in this show and I really want to know more about it.

Darklight0303 said:
People hoping the OP'ness train ever stops. Oh you adorable innocent little lambs.

ichii_1 said:
Man, even with 4 ep per volume some small bits get left behind :(
That black hole :O
There is definitely a Yggdrasil player out there cause no way thee scrubs could ever get a high level item like that.

-Gazef implores Ainz to help but Ainz say he would put up resistance if he forced him.
-The enemy attacked because Gazef didn't have the Kingdom's Five Treasures with him this time, if he did he would have beat all of them.
-Albedo actually uses 2 skills to send that catapult attack back at the guy.

-The 7th tier angel had a passive defense boost skill for allies and high defense itself (which makes ainz one shotting it even more impressive).
-The angel can supposedly kill the demon god that ravaged the world 200 years ago which the 13 heroes of legend sealed away..
-Ainz was on guard for Seraphim level angels which would have take his and Albedo's full power to defeat.

Genix said:



IKR! Is like they got used to watching ball-less, scrawny, indecisive male MC's from anime where the power of kindness or whatnot magically gets you the girls and defeats the bad guys somehow.

I expect an Overlord to be... well, an Overlord.

Darklight0303 said:
People hoping the OP'ness train ever stops. Oh you adorable innocent little lambs.

XMahesvaraX said:
Yeah OP=Wish Fulfillment... You know he doesn't even have boner despite having harem for the sake of 'wish fulfillment' right? It's actually suffering, not a good thing.
His OPness is not a level of nonsense. Actually it's just logical. He is a last level player in a low level(avarage 30 i guess) area. What did you expect? Would struggling againts that weaklings will be more realistic?
Lastly he is not a juvenile(iirc he was something around 30) and he clearly said in the first episode that one of their guild's requirement is to be in a proper place in society. So this is not typical 'NEET Otaku(for wish fulfillment) transported to his/her dream world' theme either... He is a avarage human in a society and he transported to a world where he can no longer feel any pleasure so how is this a wish fulfillment?

vangoz said:
The OP-ness of Nazarick is ok in the beginning but

Very spoilerish.

Slicer22 said:


Thats not very true since

RediceRyan said:
Fantastic episode, that was some ownage. Maybe he'll run into Kirito, that would be interesting. I'm sure there are other human players that were trapped in the mmorpg

jakkubus said:
When did I say, that OP=wish fulfillment? Even overpowered characters can be done well like in Fate series, TTGL or Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou, but there should be a challenge, when in last episode we have seen Ainz just steamrolling through some weaklings like Tatsuya Shiba or other Mary Sue. There could be e.g. other player, but nope, that would destroy power fantasy. And when MC isn't juvenile (at least on the papers), the show is.

zetsubousei_hero said:
So far, not very interesting. I'll keep trying. Somehow the plot is not getting to me. What MC is trying to achieve? Most MMO anime usually have a goal but this one is confusing.

Ashford_Thunder said:
Guy, don't forget that there is an extra chunk after ED this episode, make sure you don't miss it. :D

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
So your stupid hate propaganda against OP characters doesn't stop does it? Is it fun being a broken radio.............look man we get that you feel insecure and pathetic but seriously stop with the stupid buzzwords, they don't make you cool.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the character haven't been done well. All your subjective whining doesn't prove anything. It''s only been 4 episodes aka the first volume.........it is already established he will be far more powerful than normal scrubs.

If you don't like it go watch another show than doing this pointless crying "Hurr hurr this is bad because character is OP". Oh i like both OP and weak characters, so don't try the "wish fullfillment" or "fanboy" card.

Flawfinder said:


It'd be a lot more exciting to watch. I mean if we know the guy isn't going to die or even lose, then where's the tension? And if he's so OP, why is the writer making him waste time with these low-level snorefests?

juicykitten95 said:

but what development can we get with MC like that,he will take over the world with ease but then what ?

Monad said:
People complaining about him being too strong are idiots. The fucking anime is called OVERLORD! and his appearance is that of some scary lord of the underworld and has all those worshiping him etc. And he doesn't even have the appearance of someone that should be fighting hard and running around trying to win.

If this guy wasn't strong like that then it would have been stupid. What kind of Overlord scary underworld master would he be if he wasn't OP as hell?

Just by seeing him i knew that this is how this guy is suppose to be or else the story will make no sense.
This not some fighting shounen with your usual idiotic growing protagonist. Stop being such faggots that always expect this clishe "growing" characters.



I fucking knew it. There we go with the fucking "OMG but what character development can we get like that?" bullshit. For fucks sake. A good story doesn't necessary need that shit. Have you never saw a show with characters that don't need to power up as they go?

Also this guy seems to be getting development just not about power but about how he faces his current physical changes and world around him as a person.

Monad said:
I fucking knew it. There we go with the fucking "OMG but what character development can we get like that?" bullshit. For fucks sake. A good story doesn't necessary need that shit. Have you never saw a show with characters that don't need to power up as they go?

Also this guy seems to be getting development just not about power but about how he faces his current physical changes and world around him as a person.

Monad said:
Also this guy seems to be getting development just not about power but about how he faces his current physical changes and world around him as a person.

wakka9ca said:


Exactly this. This is really why I prefer Overlord over, let's say Mahouka, in the MC department.

wakka9ca said:


Exactly this. This is really why I prefer Overlord over, let's say Mahouka, in the MC department. Each series has its strength and weakness and in Overlord, it's the novelty of the MC's worldview as someone that holds ultimate godlike power but lost most of his human morals. In Mahouka, it was the pseudo-technicality of modern magic. The MC in Mahouka for instance is a complete bore. On the other hand, Overlord doesn't have as complicated and intricate magic system as Mahouka.

You can pretty much say this about any interesting and good series. The series that are truly mediocre are series that do not stand out in any department. Finally, there are types of series that are opposite where each of its department eventually sum up to a balanced series (sum greater than parts).

Why do the reader read this story? What are they looking for in a story? Why is it interesting and what are the elements that draw them to the story? Why do they keep reading it? If you can't answer these questions yourself as a consumer about the series you personally like or dislike then you would not be able to understand why people have different tastes.

Monad said:


Comparing this guy to the Mahouka guy is ridiculous and the guy who did it lucks any understanding of wtf his watching. Complete apple and oranges situation. People that can't see the difference are better off doing something else than watching anime.
The Mahouka guy is fucking ridiculous not just because of his power level alone but about the way his show handles everything. From his looks to how he is presented to how he behaves and the others behave to him and how he responds etc. Combining that with his power makes him ridiculous.
Ridiculous characters aren't just about power level. You will be better of comparing this guy to Alucard or something instead.

YEEART said:
But the difference between One Punch Man and Overlord is mostly how they overall manga/light novel is presented. OPM doesn't take itself seriously at all compared to Overlord.

YEEART said:
But the difference between One Punch Man and Overlord is mostly how they overall manga/light novel is presented. OPM doesn't take itself seriously at all compared to Overlord.

ReaperCreeper said:
Why is he surprised about stuff from the game appearing inside the game?

Monad said:
Btw, why exactly have he changed his name? It seems the new name he uses is some known name from the game because he seems to be using it as something other players from that game can identify. I guess is a name of the basic lore of the game he was in? Or maybe the name of the final boss of that game or something?

Aaannnd let the misunderstanding begin!

swordstriker21 said:
As the others said, "OP MCs = no character development/excitement" is one huge, HUGE fallacy. It's how the author handles the character and the story that makes or breaks it.

Go read One Punch Man. He's the mother of all OP characters. He can end most fights w/ just one single punch. He always wins his battles cuz that's the way his character and the story is set up. But is it boring? Hell no! Is there no character development? You can bet your shiny ass there's loads of it. Not only for the MC but for all the side characters and villains as well. It's VERY well written. And, in the end, that' what actually matters.

Overlord's setting more than justifies Ainz' OPness. As the others said, he's the final boss character. But instead of waiting until the heroes grind to max level and get all the legendary equipment so they can bitchslap him after they power up with the help of a little deus ex machina, he moves his shiny skeletal ass and decides to be more proactive. It's how he goes about interacting with the world and how the world reacts to his presence that is the main draw of the series. That's the point. And if you just don't get that, then it' probably not your cup of tea. That's all there is to it really.

Monad said:
Great! Momonga was so awesome. This show has become my favorite this season. Can't wait to see him going against a whole country or something. I also have to wonder what kind of politics he will play. Will he supports a certain nation? Will he just try to take on everyone? What is he thinking?

Darklight0303 said:


Virtuous king of the Forest.

YEEART said:


That why I have a feeling the next 4 episodes are going to be pretty lame. I did not enjoy the 2nd volume at all.

swordstriker21 said:

Just because you don't like a series doesn't automatically mean it's bad. That doesn't go for just this or Mahouka. People have different tastes man. That's a fact of life. Deal with it.

Monad said:
To they just want to watch the same shit again and again and again where main guy fights hard barely wins gets power up then fights stronger opponent hard then barely wins then gets power up for next enemy then loses and then gets another power up and goes back and win etc?
Should we always be stuck in the Dragonball recipe?

Then you get a different story and complain about the guy not starting weak and "character development"? WTF!!
Learn to appreciate things other than the same damn thing over and over people.