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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I think those are happy tears at first but then... Anyways, the mood of this series can really change quite a bit. I think Sata's words made quite an impact there. Yeah, I feel kinda bad for Erika this episode until Sata was able to cheer her up again. |
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| Christmas... She wants to spend time with Kuro ouji but he doesn't seem to like it. She actually likes to be treated as a dog!? He's been accompanying her. He said such cruel things (to play on her feelings), which is too much that she acts like she doesn't like Christmas. Or probably he really like her (fond of her) as his pet... because he gave her necklace. Valentine's day. |
tsubasaloverNov 2, 2014 7:41 AM
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| This series is extremely unpopular in Japan. Just now, I checked out the Amazon Stalker points to see whether or not people are placing preorders for the Blu-rays and the DVDs. They are not. I am seeing the lowest forecasts that I can ever remember seeing.** I have a regular habit of looking up the "Amazon Stalker points" to gauge the popularity of a series, including how it varies from episode to episode. Another measure of the popularity of a series is to look for online discussions among Japanese fans. But I am not finding any in the usual places. Usually, it is pretty easy to find discussion boards where fans post still images that they like, quite often simultaneously as they are actually watching the episode while it is airing in Tokyo. Why don't Japanese viewers like this series? - - - - - - - Amazon stalker points (最終予測累積ポイント) as of this moment: Volume 1: (on sale 12/24) BD: 229 DVD: 300 Volume 2: (on sale 01/21) BD: 270 DVD: 277 Volume 3: (on sale 02/25) BD: 344 DVD: 352 Volume 4: (on sale 03/25) BD: 379 DVD: 380 Volume 5: (on sale 04/22) BD: 442 DVD: 433 Volume 6: (on sale 05/20) BD: 505 DVD: 495 - - - - - - - ** For a series that I personally am able to continue watching. |
okanaganNov 2, 2014 9:06 AM
okanagan said: There's no misogyny in this series.The whole premise is unusually misogynistic. Maybe that bothers them. Anyway, Good episode, looks like they're gonna skip another chapter next. That'll make the second one, so now I really don't know where the adaptation is gonna end. |
| ^ Okay, I am willing to take back the word "misogynistic". Maybe that was an overstatement. |
| Mean Kyoya :( That was really mean what he said to Erika! He should be a lot nicer...even though he gave her that necklace, what he said wasn't okay. |
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okanagan said: This series is extremely unpopular in Japan.... oh, that's a surprise, i thought that anime with pathetic, masochistic females, that're doing nothin but just drool over a guy are something that most of anime viewers would love |
That's how I see like more than half of the MAL users with their "waifus", hentais, harems, weird-ass video games and all that shit |
| That was mean of Kyoya to say that. I guess buying that necklace for her made things better. |
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| That was quite the roller coaster episode! Erika wanting to confirm how Kyouya feels about her. T.T Kyouya saying he loved her and Erika was really happy to the point she cried. Then Kyouya says it was a lie. Erika wanting to give up on Kyouya after what happened then Kyouya comes to visit. The "collar" was a really cute necklace. Can't wait till the time when Kyouya would stop being mean to this level. Teasing is fine and all but that was too much :( Wonder what reason that causes him to act the way he does! Perhaps he loves her and just can't admit it? :) |
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| It's really hard how to know the real Kyouya. A collar necklace as a Christmas present huh? Damn it! It seems that Erika's sleepover on Kyouya's house will not be animated! And It was one of the best parts of the manga!!! Why the hell they are skipping chapters! This is really bad!!! |
| Haters always gonna hate. |
| I honestly want Erika to just break up with Kyouya. i cant stand much more of this anime i might drop it unless something interesting happens next ep |
| I hate Christmas & I'm glad an anime character agrees with me. I knew Kyouya was trolling, he's petty as hell. I don't even feel bad for Erika since she's willing to put up with him. So gullible. Aaralyn said: Rayzer said: It's really hard how to know the real Kyouya. A collar necklace as a Christmas present huh? Damn it! It seems that Erika's sleepover on Kyouya's house will not be animated! And It was one of the best parts of the manga!!! Why the hell they are skipping chapters! This is really bad!!! Im mad for skipping tutoring chapter as well :/ Is the manga better than the anime? I might as well read it since I quite enjoy the anime so far. |
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| I guess the more attractive person in a relationship have a comparative advantage in everything... Sata can do mean things and be forgiven. If Sata is not as good-looking as he is, he will probably be dumped right away. Such is life. Some of you may consider this type of behavior offensive, but it's certainly not limited to men, and certainly happens not only in anime. If Erika has Sata's level of popularity in boys and Sata is as "plain" as Erika, in other words, when the situation is reversed, the same thing could easily happen, except that it would be Erika torturing Sata. |
bunny1ov3rNov 2, 2014 10:32 AM
| My Reviews and Rants: http://bunny1ov3r.wordpress.com/ 痛就是爱 |
| Typical shoujo series, but I love it anyways. |
| The punchline to Kyouya acting nice was so obvious but damn was that an ass move from him <_< Poor Erika. And she he goes and buys her a present XD It's really tough to know wtf this guy is thinking. |
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| I really can't understand how so many people seem offended by this anime in believing that sata is abusing erika o.o It's just a romance/comedy anime! Everything is fiction and nothing more .. additionally sata is not really abusing her he is rather teasing her and testing her endurance I think. A lot of anime are more abusive towards women because they constantly picture them as the victim and showing them oversexualized and stuff |
| I knew what Kyoya was saying had to be to good to be true, i don't feel bad for Erika since its her fault for chasing him all the time. |
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Aaralyn said: Im mad for skipping tutoring chapter as well :/ Yeah It's too bad that they won't animate it this season. As for your question.. Though I wouldnt be surprised if they put beach chapter as one of the last episodes.. But I guess they are just reserving the Chapters they skipped/skipping for specials (I hope so). |
| Haters always gonna hate. |
| Damn, Kyoya is so twisted,nobody knows what he is feeling. |
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nochyba said: TheNumber1Tony said: Typical shoujo series, but I love it anyways. is it really that typical?i thought that shoujo are mostly about the guy chasing after a girl, not the other way around like we have here,and like we have in every other romance anime, after watching maid-sama and kimi ni todoke i wanted to get a little more into this genre, but if this shit (stuff that we have in this one) is typical for most of shoujo i guess i'll give up on this idea Mostly this, KwMs was the first (that I'm aware of) shoujo that I saw and it was simply great. Ookami on the other hand... the feelings are rushed and now it's already Christmas... |
| I really don't understand, he said those awful things then he gives her a necklace and she forgives him?! Wtf |
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| This reminds me of Marmalade Boy a lot, but it's not as grand maybe. The visuals are sweet and the OP&ED are pretty great. I also like the dominant male lead, since most shonen rom coms nowadays have whiny chibis instead. |
| (|__/) Never give up, aim for the top! (='.'=) Top wo nerae! o(")(") Anime music: http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=777199 |
| I just don't know what to think about Sata. |
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| This is probably one of my favorite shoujo anime I've watched in a while. You know why? Because the characters are not perfect. Yes, Kyouya can be one hell of an asshole. Yes, Erika can be gullible and simple-minded as fk. But that's part of what makes this so engaging to watch. Personally, I empathize with Erika a lot more than I figured I would, especially in the way she seeks to idealize her world and make everything perfect. Character flaws make for interesting explorations and commentary on the human condition in such media as anime. And particularly in the case of Kyouya, the mystery of figuring out what kind of a person he truly is becomes quite intriguing. There is both a genuineness and sickeningly harsh nature about him, that it's hard to figure out what his game and personality really are. No, this isn't a perfect love story. Yes, there is manipulation and deceit going on here, and yes I felt like socking Kyouya in the mouth at various times throughout this episode. Yet there is a genuineness and complexity to it that I don't generally find in the genre. And honestly, all this just demonstrates how engaged I am in this little drama. Add in the comedy, which is also quite amusing at times, and this is honestly becoming one of the anime this season that I look forward to the most every week. |
_AisuNov 2, 2014 1:16 PM
| Male tsunderes ftw? |
| Erika stop being a f.cking Sakura dammit! |
| Sata Kyoya is the male lead shoujo anime deserve. |
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| Oh Kyouya, you're turning into such a tsundere now. |
| That piece of crap. Damn you, Erika, for believing that jerk. Burn that thing, before it lays eggs! >_< |
| Wait a sec, I'm wondering what happened to the beach episode/chapter. o3o Well, that sucks. You would think they would animate the one instance of fanservice... >< it was summer a minute ago and now it's Christmas, lol. I'm guessing this isn't going to be a faithful adaptation as Ao Haru Ride was. |
| this episode was such a rollercoaster but it was nice! christmas episodes are always good |
| Getting kind of tired of the back and forth shit. It's like this every Week. He hurts Erika. She cries, he makes up. Like c'mon, can you do anything new, Ookami? |
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| UneasyHeart said: Wait a sec, I'm wondering what happened to the CENSORED episode / chapter. I am also getting more and more frustrated when each week they keep skipping over the part from Chapter CENSORED in the manga where they all CENSORED. On the other hand, maybe they are planning to come out with an OVA at some point in the future which will include the content of that manga chapter. That way, they can include content that would not be acceptable for broadcast TV. So they won't have to cover up everything with steam. Let's hope. Probably a high percentage of the fans would be willing to pay lots of money to purchase a Blu-ray/DVD where they can see CENSORED. In any case, the relevant chapter in the manga is . . . - - - - - - - - - @Starswirl9: .I agree with you. Unfortunately, that is not what sells. The Mount Fuji forests are full of the dead bodies of animators who tried to create series along the lines what you are advocating. |
okanaganNov 2, 2014 3:38 PM
| Phew that was a close one, almost dropped the anime if what he said was true back there |
| I'm gonna start the fanboy talk: Why is this only having 12 episodes?! DAMN! |
| Hmm, I feel like I've been becoming jaded over the years. I love shoujo anime with a passion, truly I do. I am a SUCKER for anime romance. But this one just doesn't sit right with me. There's a difference between teasing, and going completely out of your way to hurt someone. What he did was deceitful and then for him to demand an apology... I would have tossed him on his ass outside my door faster then you would believe. How can someone supposedly care for someone, and then do something like that to them? Say things like that? It was cruel, plain and simple. When you "tease", you do so to provoke a reaction, not make them cry. Ugh. It's just really rubbing me the wrong way. He's a bully and this relationship just bothers me. But at the same time, she chooses to go back to him every time, so it's her own fault. I just hope they somehow end up happy. |
| I've read the manga but watching this still gives me the feels -_- |
| I think the reason she decides not to give up on him is because she starts having flashbacks of times where he was nice to her. starting with, "you're my girlfriend. shut up and be protected." she describes him as "half-hearted" in being kind, which is pretty spot on. There are hints of caring for her despite his cruel actions and words. even if they are small, that's what she's hanging on to. and no one said love was rational anyways. I remember her friend saying in the last episode that you can't help who you fall for. in this episode she even says "why did I fall for this guy?" it's easy to say to just dump him, but she can't. that's not what her heart wants. |
AnimeFreak-SanNov 2, 2014 5:27 PM
| I knew he want serious as that confession was awkward. Well played director. But im all seriousness the fact the erika still loves sata is mindblowing. This is where i remember anime aint reality. |
| Jesus can walk on water. Cucumbers are 96% water. I can walk on cucumbers. I'm 96% Jesus. |
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