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Oct 18, 2014 1:52 AM
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Nice, they got along with the action pretty quick. I like it. OST got better too imo.

Hell, even watching Tetra fighting was amusing. Overall a good solid fashioned raid. I haven't seen one of these in awhile. Lol, Demi-demi and his wyvern kick. What a boss.

I didn't know it was Christmas time as well. Only a few more months until Xmas is here...
Oct 18, 2014 1:53 AM
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Many level of the dungeon that everyone's familiar of, but with hidden areas. Many hard monsters, including fighting against the bird that stone players and keep retreating. 60 secs., huh.

That idol player is annoying in funny way as always, but is useful for healing. That guy who has grudge is still active. So that naming was the point that angered him?! lol.

Back to Akiba and Christmas time. Guden? Assassin girl wants to solve it for improving herself. Wait, that someone at the end... Cannot wait to find out who (enemy?).
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Oct 18, 2014 2:42 AM
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Lol at dem-etc guy

I love christmas in anime yay :D

Tetora too OP,

I needa rewatch this episode later, too sleepy to focus
Oct 18, 2014 5:11 AM
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Well for those who said that the first season lacked Action, they certainley got their wish in this episode and in the next few episodes wll get more for sure.

Wow the full mechanics of a raid were explained so well. it makes me want to try one. i mean i played some MMOs but i never got a chance to actually participate in a raid before i really want to try it.

Oh William u never cease to amaze me how self righteous u are. but he needs to give himself some credit.

So the official word for Overskills are called 'Teachings'.

They skipped the part of the tea party and dressing Lenessia in a nurse outfit just a brief image was shown. why damn it.

Also oh hell yeah the Murderer of Akihabara is coming. this Christmas is going to be bloody.
Oct 18, 2014 5:22 AM
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It's always nice to see more well explained fights. And it does seem a damn shame to realise this will be the first christmas trapped in Elder Tale..
Oct 18, 2014 5:30 AM
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Demiclass is surely a problem ^^

Finally him!(the guy at the end). More action coming

I want more of a certain cute assassin >.<

The dialogues between Naotsugu and Tetora make me smile :)

The adaptation is going fine, I think
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Oct 18, 2014 5:49 AM
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Still think Tetora is cute :3 How the hell does she stick to Naotsugu though XD

Loved the first half with the raid. Really nice stuff. Liking the atmosphere it gives off :D

Liking William quite a lot ^^ I can't wait to know more about him.

The "Teaching" skills thing seems pretty interesting.

Lol'd at Democracy getting pissed at being helped by Shiroe :P
Oct 18, 2014 6:08 AM
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good epi , explained the mechanism well
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Oct 18, 2014 6:29 AM
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Some awesome actions in the beginning with the raid. Shiroe's narration makes life easier by explaining everything that's going on.

William's admiration for Shiroe was nice to see. He's slowly becoming one of my favorites. (^^)

Democracy-san can't contain himself anymore. For one thing, he's quite prideful, but he should really calm down and try getting back at Shiroe with nickname jokes. XD

Tetra's silly antics are pretty cute! Is she getting attached to Naotsugu a bit too much though? Potential (romance) rival to Marie. :p

A bit about the new "Teaching" skill, which I bet Shiroe has already acquired. I don't think the others necessarily need it though.

Good episode. That white-haired guy from the last episode is probably going to be the new villain. Akibahara is in potential danger? O.o

Oct 18, 2014 6:33 AM
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I really enjoyed that raid, it served as a reminder that this really was a game. I loved how familiar it was all to me, all the terms I like.
Some nice bit of character development for William, I'm really starting to like his character.
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Oct 18, 2014 6:42 AM

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Great episode
Oct 18, 2014 7:02 AM

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Im enjoying the raid. The second half was a bit meh.
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Oct 18, 2014 7:03 AM
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For some reason I'm enjoying this even more than the first season. And aww that cliffhanger. Really like that idol. "Should I show him my pants?"

And Rundel Haus is still amazing. Definitely liked this episode. The raid fights were pretty nice too. OST is amazing.
Oct 18, 2014 7:04 AM

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I love it, when they explain the tactic stuff and the skills. Just feels more like a game with it.
Oct 18, 2014 7:06 AM

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THIS FULL RAID IS WHAT I WANT SAO'S BOSS FIGHT TO BE LIKE.


24 members, all do their jobs, got sh-t done and together enjoy the glory of victory.


Then again, with the stupid concept of Aincrad (all melee, no class, no equality) any kind of strategies seem impossible.
Oct 18, 2014 7:16 AM

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Great episode with good amount of action. OST was good too. That cliffhanger tough... man, Log Horizon is so good :D
Oct 18, 2014 7:24 AM

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Nice episode,
I like the dungeon boss fight :)
Oct 18, 2014 7:31 AM

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by the way, this week SAO has a dungeon raid too. and i know it will suck hahahaha
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Oct 18, 2014 7:33 AM
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For one thing, he's quite prideful, but he should really calm down and try getting back at Shiroe with nickname jokes.


If he could he wouldn't be so hostile. He knows that he loses automatically to Shiore when intelligence is at stake, and he was consoling himself by showing that he was strong. But then he found out that many of his victories were coming because of Shiroe. That is enough to make anyone with any pride mad, think of a child who for the first time wins at something important to them, only to later discover that their parents had helped them.

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Then again, with the stupid concept of Aincrad (all melee, no class, no equality) any kind of strategies seem impossible.


It wasn't "stupid". Don't forget that the designer had a specific purpose for creating the game the way he did, he wanted levels, he wanted melees, he certainly didn't want equality among the players. He wanted them to battle out so that the good ones would rise to challenge him. He had no care for the large majority of players who either didn't or couldn't try.

So if the game had been actually invented, perhaps its actual sales would tank and from a marketing pov it would have been stupid, but for the goal of the creator it was the perfect game.

Good episode, shows how data dumps should be handled, during action scenes, with only occasional sitting or standing around doing things. Wish Mahouka had done it this way.

The art work I think has gotten a better this episode, though I expect the same DEEN haters to hate, I've gotten use to it. Once again good characters and good plots are what people want, it can absorb the art.
Oct 18, 2014 7:33 AM

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Fucking shit I google Tetora and got a huge spoiler. Don't google it people. I repeat Don't google it.
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Oct 18, 2014 7:34 AM

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I was geeking out during the raid explanation. Tanks pulling aggro, dedicated damage dealers, rangers and mages in the back row, support team healing and buffing the team and also debuffing the enemy...this is how you do a show with an MMO game as its central theme.

A lot of them kept dying so that means a lot of lost memories. What's scary is that they don't know which memories they lost.

Lenessia nurse! Marielle and Henrietta found a new toy haha.
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Oct 18, 2014 7:46 AM
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Credit to sphaela, but names might not be accurate. The strategy of raid in full detail for those interested. (NOT in the LN, and No spoiler here either)
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Such a boring episode, 2/5.
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Oct 18, 2014 8:22 AM

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Fighting the raid bosses and the mobs!
Having to escape a wipe and learn slowly on the weakness of a boss.
With limited supply of now 30 days! Two boss down with three or four more.
Tetra is quite the healer, quite amusing to watch her style. Though her style makes it less efficient.

A new level for skills! Maybe Akatsuki would get it from the mysterious npc that appeared at the end!
Oct 18, 2014 8:23 AM

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Good ep. This is pretty much Log Horizon at its best when it goes all in depth on everything. Finally it seems the peaceful days are over where the guild Log Horizon is I wonder how they will handle the upcoming threat?
Oct 18, 2014 8:47 AM

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I want this game to exist, with true action combat system. All the features and classes seem so good.
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Oct 18, 2014 9:09 AM

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Was that another people of the land antagonist I see at the end?

Oct 18, 2014 9:13 AM

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That strategy was really nice. These guys must've been such hardcore players irl
Oct 18, 2014 9:14 AM

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They even had a discount Nyanta.
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Oct 18, 2014 9:18 AM

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The raid was cool.
I lol at Haus's Engrish every time.
I hope they won't fuck up this season like the first one.

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Really like that idol. "Should I show him my pants?"

Lol. Best character.
Oct 18, 2014 9:21 AM

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I also agree that it was a really boring episode, too much talk and the action was mediocre at most. Also the party comp was really bad :| i mean for what raids I've been to, groups tend to be diverse, so that every one has a healer and maybe a tank considering they had 6 (too many), this makes it easier to split up if needed.
Also in what raid can you kill a monster alone, in one hit even, like Demi does. And lastly i was really waiting forward to the boss fights, but they were a real letdown. The only thing they showed were a couple of boss abilities and how everyone got hit by them : rest was talking. Also scenes where they actually fought the boss were really short, and the second one was skipped altogether so ... yea it was boring.
Oct 18, 2014 9:25 AM

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Really nice episode. Log Horizon knows how to make the pace comfortable even if the progression is slow.
Oct 18, 2014 9:28 AM

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I want this game to exist, with true action combat system. All the features and classes seem so good.


This game uses a classic combat system. It plays like WoW but I would say that its classes are more variant and defined in fact it plays very close to everquest.
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Love the Shiroe-shaped christmas tree decoration.
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Oct 18, 2014 9:47 AM

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itching to play some MMORPG now

Good episode. Loved the full raid part.
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Oct 18, 2014 9:51 AM

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I really liked how their parties were set-up for the raid and their overall effectiveness.

Tetora sure is funny XD.

Dat raid boss doe...

So raids are freaking in this game and they take a very long time to complete.

Even William was amazed at how many days the materials that Shiroe has would last.

Demikas should really stop bishing about Shiroe and start thinking about his teamwork.

So Christmas is nearing in-game and a weird guy/npc appeared at the end of the episode.
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Oct 18, 2014 9:52 AM

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Don't know why but I am loving Tetora more and more :>
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Oct 18, 2014 9:54 AM

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Was a great episode. But sadly, next one is gonna be about the bland and boring Akatsuki.
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Oct 18, 2014 9:57 AM
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LOL the BGM of this ep is sure OP =))
Oct 18, 2014 10:18 AM

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I think that's the first anime which managed to convey properly the basics of what are really MMORPG's PvE raids to profanes. That was nice to see. This also managed to show how annoying for the whole raid members with an undisciplined or childish behavior can become lol~.

Interestingly enough, what Demikass does isn't any different from what Kirito does in SAO. The guy is soloing raid opponents and rush the opponent alone without caring about any strategy, even against boss opponents.
It's funny to see the difference of reaction from the SAO player and the LH players toward that behavior. In a MMORPG, a player behaving like demikass or kirito would never get any admiration. Rather than that, he would never get accepted in any PvE guild thinking of chalenging high level encounters.


That guy at the end that we saw during an earlier episode wasn't an adventurer? That's a surprise.
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Interestingly enough, what Demikass does isn't any different from what Kirito does in SAO. The guy is soloing raid opponents and rush the opponent alone without caring about any strategy, even against boss opponents.
It's funny to see the difference of reaction from the SAO player and the LH players toward that behavior. In a MMORPG, a player behaving like demikass or kirito would never get any admiration. Rather than that, he would never get accepted in any PvE guild thinking of chalenging high level encounters.
You seem to forget SAO had no ranged classes heck it had no magic at all. I am not saing SAO handled boss fights well. But it is like comparing Apples to Oranges the game mechanics are completely different.
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Great action scenes in the beginning for the raid.

Democracy got pissed off since Shiroe helped him...lol.
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As a 10+ year MMO Veteran, i appreciated an episode like this dearly =).
Oct 18, 2014 11:15 AM

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Heart was pounding throughout the episode.

William's passion as a Guild Master is so touching. :D Great character building episode.

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Oct 18, 2014 11:21 AM

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I really liked the first part, the action was really well explained. Oh and there's a new enemy at the end.
Oct 18, 2014 11:45 AM

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Ah, this episode mhm... That's why I love LH, because when it touches it's MMO part, it does it right and as it's as similar to real MMORPG as it can be shown in Anime. (At least it will be hard to beat it).
Oct 18, 2014 11:47 AM

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] You seem to forget SAO had no ranged classes heck it had no magic at all. I am not saing SAO handled boss fights well. But it is like comparing Apples to Oranges the game mechanics are completely different.
more like, while that sao game technology is awesome, the game in itself is an absolutely awful MMO, because the author doesn't know shit about MMORPG's PVE. Furthermore, even without ranged classes, there ar still tanks and dps specialists, yet even with just two "classes" to manage, the author didn't manage to show them working together properly. In the end, that's the difference between an author who know about what he's writting about and one who only knows rapists as boss raid.
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As someone who has never played more than a few minutes of any mmo, I really appreciate all of the info-dump that this show gives. To anyone who plays mmos, how long does it usually take to perform a raid in real life?

I find it interesting how new things are being added to the "game" even after the apocalypse. I wonder how powerful that new skill ranking is going to be.
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Zefyris said:
PoisonedTea said:
] You seem to forget SAO had no ranged classes heck it had no magic at all. I am not saing SAO handled boss fights well. But it is like comparing Apples to Oranges the game mechanics are completely different.
more like, while that sao game technology is awesome, the game in itself is an absolutely awful MMO, because the author doesn't know shit about MMORPG's PVE. Furthermore, even without ranged classes, there ar still tanks and dps specialists, yet even with just two "classes" to manage, the author didn't manage to show them working together properly. In the end, that's the difference between an author who know about what he's writting about and one who only knows rapists as boss raid.


Meh, it's a difference in perspective really. I think you did point it out real well earlier. SAO is more about the solo loners who goes pew pew in PUG's and LH is more about guild interactions and whatnot. Each has their own audience, and is rooted in a real experience. No need to start degrading one at the expense of the other.
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