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Oct 2, 2009 11:12 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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That was one crazy "TARUNSFORMASHON!"

Nice to see the anime show the ramifications of such a ridiculous genre trope, haha.
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Oct 3, 2009 8:05 AM
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Crazy! Am I the only one thinking Minmay is a little unstable?
Sep 20, 2010 2:32 AM
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Veethorn said:
Crazy! Am I the only one thinking Minmay is a little unstable?
No, I also think that she some kind of mental problem because her actions are not normal xD Seriously who would send her lover to a war?
Macross' transformation was epic~
Mar 20, 2011 8:45 AM
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For something so big it can do a transformation that radical in a very short time! XD

sayami said:
Veethorn said:
Crazy! Am I the only one thinking Minmay is a little unstable?
No, I also think that she some kind of mental problem because her actions are not normal xD Seriously who would send her lover to a war?


Err...Posttraumatic stress disorder? I mean in one single day she did went from falling from the sky, unknowingly caught between a military crossfire with an extraterrestrial race, got cast away in space and then survive another 11 days alone with another guy she barely knew. I give her much credit for that. Uhmm, multiple personality disorder perhaps? Last episode she went from desiring to marry Hikaru to wanting to die together with him and then getting angry, accusing Hikaru of being a coward all in a span of few minutes! LOL Okay enough arm-chair psychological babble.
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May 1, 2011 1:33 PM
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@ tofei

Let's not forget that she was laughing and having a merry oh time merely minutes after the things you specified.

And, honestly, she seemed kind of screwy from the very beginning. Remember her conversations with Hikaru about his Valkyrie. But, for some reason, I'm getting the feeling this is going somewhere.

Anyway, a pretty good episode and man I hope they find a more effective way to handle the civilians I mean they aren't really going to destroy the town and people every time they get attacked are they?
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Jul 29, 2011 10:33 PM
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"We're in deep space, so we need to be on food rationing ... except it'd be good for morale to open a restaurant, so let's pull those food sources out of our ass!"

Maybe Minmei serves people her hopes and dreams at their Chinese restaurant?

That was a badass transformation, reminded me of Tengen Toppa (except decades earlier of course), and it was interesting they showed the ramifications of transforming a huge starship full of people and transplanted terrain. The transformed super-robot fires a giant blast that wipes out all the bad guys and saves the day, but will there be rioting on the ship from the families of all the people that died in that little maneuver?

4/5
May 22, 2012 9:22 AM
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Well, they said that during the previous war they were on food rations but could still run the restaurant because they were allowed extra rations. It seems plausible, though I can imagine some logistic difficulties. For one, the restaurant could only serve one ration's worth for each meal, and they'd have to keep records so they could show this to the rationers. I don't think it'd be as simple as just going and asking for permission, but definitely doable.
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Jun 19, 2012 9:23 AM
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Why would they let them sell rations in the first place? They're giving them out in lines, so instead of waiting, they can just buy them in the restaurant? What do they do with the money they make? Are there other restaurants? Other businesses?

I was also going to question the feasibility of growing these mass amounts of plants inside the ship, too. I think it's better to question the larger things first though, hahaha, like how it can actually transform and shoot giant lasers.
Jan 24, 2013 1:13 PM
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Interesting, perhaps the episode title "Transformation" refers not only to the Macross, but also to Lynn Minmay from Hikaru's point of view.

To add to something being "off" about Minmay, I'm watching the new dub ADV released on DVD, where they got the original voice actress for Minmay to play the role. So not only is she screwy, she is also speaking with a strange singsong asian accent.
Mar 30, 2014 2:29 AM

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As to why they are allowed to open: morale. Plus it looks like the main clientele for the restaurant is the military, so the ration issue may not be as great (and it sounded like the menu was mostly ramen, so pretty basic food supplies would be all that was needed). As for Minmay's mental state, let's watch a few more episodes before rushing to judgement.
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Jul 22, 2014 5:05 AM

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Yeah I don't really think it's a great idea to open a restaurant when food is so limited. Not until they have some sort of sustainable thing. I'd put survival over happiness in this situation.

Wasn't expecting a bit of an argument to happen so suddenly between Hikaru and Minmay but right after they've made up and are all happy again.

This anime is definitely getting more interesting but it sure does change gears quite suddenly.
Aug 3, 2014 3:32 PM

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Again, let's just turn off our brains and watch Macross, lmao. Dudes in the restaurant ordering double portions. So much for rations.
Apr 20, 2015 7:21 AM

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Heh. The Macross transformation caused more damage to the city than the aliens did, yet the bridge acknowledged it with little more than a "SORRY LOL WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING"

Never mind the civilians that possibly got sucked into space before the airlocks closed. Property damage is the real issue here apparently. xD

I'm quite enjoying this show but I'm not expecting anything resembling psychological or sociological realism.
Sep 30, 2015 1:49 AM

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I thought there would be more panic. Feeding 50,000 people can't be easy.
Oct 30, 2015 12:03 AM

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Beatnik said:
That was one crazy "TARUNSFORMASHON!"
Aug 2, 2016 10:46 PM

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People wouldn't be so speculative about Minmay if the show hasn't blurted that line at the end of episode four. When people have sudden mood changes in most of show's no once say's a thing.

She was probably putting up a front and being stressed out so the things she have said so far haven't been outrageous.
Mar 5, 2017 5:42 AM

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Oh no, I'm quite sure lot of people died after that "TARUNSFORMASHON!", but everyone looks fine with that.
Aug 5, 2017 11:18 AM

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What is Global thinking ? o_O He just killed many citizens without an explanation to them, either by suffocation or crushing them/their houses.

4/5 The heroes are great to follow.
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Rei366 said:
What is Global thinking ? o_O He just killed many citizens without an explanation to them, either by suffocation or crushing them/their houses.


Yeah, it's like unforgivable. I think he could have done better just fighting the aliens with the Valkyries. His hat falls off before he makes the order, and then he puts it back on right after. I feel like it's a metaphor for the breakdown of order and extreme measures and the like.

jimboli92 said:
Interesting, perhaps the episode title "Transformation" refers not only to the Macross, but also to Lynn Minmay from Hikaru's point of view.


Well I think it's Hikaru's transformation from a civilian to a soldier, but it could represent Minmay, like you said, and Global, in terms of the main cannon and the seriousness of the situation, as well. I think the tone will change a little bit too.
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Rei366 said:
What is Global thinking ? o_O He just killed many citizens without an explanation to them, either by suffocation or crushing them/their houses.

4/5 The heroes are great to follow.


Ikr ? The apologize via speaker,tho,bet everything was ok after that xD

Well,at least the transformation was cool to look at.

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Nov 21, 2017 2:23 AM

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I don't think Minmay really understands what rationing is, or what getting stuck at the edge of the fucking solar system with limited resources entails.

Once again, the captain kills a whole bunch of people with his boneheaded decision making. Yeah, just hold onto something, people, while the giant ass ship moves and swings its several hundred meter long parts around. That should keep you nice and safe from the falling debris.

And I don't blame Hikaru for being angry. One moment she tries to force him into committing a lovers suicide, but the very next moment when she learns that she isn't going to die after all, her personality does a complete 180, and later she even friend-zones him lol. The terrible dialogue in this show doesn't help in making her look sane either. Every time there's some conflict or drama between these two, it results in some of the most bizarre and incoherent interactions I've ever seen in anime. That's not how humans talk.
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Lmao, people literally died because of the transformation.
Mar 4, 2019 8:35 AM

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Minmay's stability aside, Hikaru kept on being ignorant with the announcements (or warnings) despite being a pilot.

PA: Please hold onto something reachable...
M: Transformation? What's that?
H: Beats me.
M&H: *proceeds to walk around open space and have drama like nothing happened*

No wonder they almost die... all the time.
Feb 18, 2020 12:48 AM

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So the Transformation is Macross turning in gigantic mech, pretty cool.
The way Captain apologized for destroying their city was unintentionally hilarious.
Jul 10, 2020 12:50 PM

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"He's just a friend" - press F for Hikaru's chance after the "wedding" scene. That cheongsam suits Minmay though.

A bet the TURANSFOMATION got somebody killed.
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The moustache isn't fit to be a captain AT ALL lol
Sep 27, 2022 9:18 AM
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Gotta say, the strange melodrama between Minmay and Hikaru aint to entertaining. However, thats honestly a sidenote compared to the interesting dillema of having to transform the Macross at civilian risk. For an older series, kuddos for bringing a focus on the human element of a giant robot's transformation! Was a fun episode, I just hope the Hikaru and Minmay stuff starts getting better soon cause 2 flops in a row does not bode well for my investment in their romance.

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