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| Let's be honest, this case was really fucking simple, the head of Psychiatry is fucking useless. In any realistic medical setting, they would have looked at the video to rule out epilepsy. Regarding Takao, I haven't read the novels or anything, but it'd seem as if the author quite literally made her practically autistic, and I'm not saying this lightly, she is quite literally socially inept, seemingly dislikes loud noises and can't read a room, apart from her clear hyperfixation on medical mysteries; these don't seem to be choices to necessarily make her character be "quirky", but rather features about her that literally define how she relates to other people. Also, I was thinking that, while the series predate The Good Doctor, the anime seems to draw some influence from that show. In any case, this is already a solid contender for best anime of 2025. |
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| Sweet episodes, need more! |
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I find it hard to believe someone in a psych ward does not think of epilepsy in our day and age of the smartphone when a patient says they saw something on a screen and blanked out. Seems like Sumida is still not worthy of being a doctor.
| @Annabeth_96 I agree. Also I find the medical writing in this episode to be lacking due to the depression/hypothyroidism case that Ameku reminisced on. I'm no doctor, but I know that hypothyroidism medicine takes a couple of months to take effect. It is not very plausible that the patient was healed in a single day. Unless the psych meds were awfully incorrect and had a short half life. If that's the case then Sumida should be reassesed ASAP. |
| What a disappointing episode. Do japanese people completely lack any basic knowledge of epilepsy? I can't really see any other explanation for this boring episode. In a show that calls itself a detective show, the solution for the "riddle" was the most obvious one. I was hoping for some twist, literally anything other than epilepsy, but the twist never came. If this was Dr. House, a case like this would not even be a side story of the episode. |
| surely SOMEONE can DD seizures to be a probable cause to an uncontrolled falling patient, especially considering the video is public and online lmao. |
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perseii said: No one other than Takao thought to actually look at the video? And no one tried to show the video again to any of the twins? With a bunch of cameras and instruments hooked up to measure brain activity? Since none of the doctors believed the curse was real anyway, they could've pushed for that harder, no? This actually registered as remarkably true to life to me, unfortunately. There are, lamentably, a lot of rigid and closed-minded people - both among doctors and other medical staff, and across all professions. To many, not believing in something like an alleged cursed video would not be handled like "I do not believe in such phenomena for reasons A, B, C,. and D that I will explain to you", or "I do not believe in such phenomena or that this specific video is cursed or otherwise in any way responsible for the patient's condition. Let me therefore expend effort, time on the clock, and money/resources in even the briefest live demonstration to disprove it". No, for many who are very arrogant and dismissive, it would be "That video is a coincidence which has nothing to do with it, it's a non-factor, and I won't even waste time addressing it further in any way". That may seem cynical or like hyperbole but there are many with such attitudes and thought processes, so it's definitely not fantastical or even super rare. It's impossible to come up with any meaningful ratio or statistical figure or extrapolate anything of value from anecdotal experiences, but if I had to guess I would say that is more the default position and approach than not - i.e. not even giving the time of day and dignifying something they've ruled out as a cause or contributing factor from the start. Sometimes it does then take an outside-the-box-thinker or just someone from a different department with a fresh set of eyes and unprejudiced on the topic to pierce through that stagnation. |
WatchTillTandavaJan 9, 10:42 PM
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perseii said:
No one other than Takao thought to actually look at the video? And no one tried to show the video again to any of the twins? With a bunch of cameras and instruments hooked up to measure brain activity? Since none of the doctors believed the curse was real anyway, they could've pushed for that harder, no?
No one other than Takao thought to actually look at the video? And no one tried to show the video again to any of the twins? With a bunch of cameras and instruments hooked up to measure brain activity? Since none of the doctors believed the curse was real anyway, they could've pushed for that harder, no?
This actually registered as remarkably true to life to me, unfortunately. There are, lamentably, a lot of rigid and closed-minded people - both among doctors and other medical staff, and across all professions. To many, not believing in something like an alleged cursed video would not be handled like "I do not believe in such phenomena for reasons A, B, C,. and D that I will explain to you", or "I do not believe in such phenomena or that this specific video is cursed or otherwise in any way responsible for the patient's condition. Let me therefore expend effort, time on the clock, and money/resources in even the briefest live demonstration to disprove it".
No, for many who are very arrogant and dismissive, it would be "That video is a coincidence which has nothing to do with it, it's a non-factor, and I won't even waste time addressing it further in any way". That may seem cynical or like hyperbole but there are many with such attitudes and thought processes, so it's definitely not fantastical or even super rare. It's impossible to come up with any meaningful ratio or statistical figure or extrapolate anything of value from anecdotal experiences, but if I had to guess I would say that is more the default position and approach than not - i.e. not even giving the time of day and dignifying something they've ruled out as a cause or contributing factor from the start. Sometimes it does then take an outside-the-box-thinker or just someone from a different department with a fresh set of eyes and unprejudiced on the topic to pierce through that stagnation.
| @WatchTillTandava I don't know... It was literally the last thing that she did before the "suicide attempt," and it was the one thing that was out of the ordinary before she did something... out of the ordinary. She was admitted to a psych ward too. The doctors there were thinking along the lines of depression and stress, so they definitely should've looked at the trigger that supposedly pushed her over the edge. It wasn't like they had to dig for it either; the victim herself was alive and willing to talk, and there was the twin as well. I understand that the hospital could've been horribly lazy or close-minded, but I have to say that's head-canon. The problem is the show itself didn't characterize the proceedings that way. Rather, the case was depicted as something that they failed to figure out simply because they weren't as smart as Takao. If Takao called out the head of the psych department for not doing the absolute bare minimum or for what is basically criminal negligence, I would've been more accepting of how it played out. But she didn't. |
| I don't understand teens (that includes myself when I was that age...like what was I thinking?). Why deliberately look at a video that is said to have killed several people IRL, much less in front of train tracks near the edge? Her twin sister Mafuyu and herself nearly died...was being "cursed together for fun" really worth it? I don't even walk up to the edge until the train is already in front of the platform (because I've seen and heard about far too many cases of homicidal subway train pushers in major cities like NYC or Toronto). Maybe it's also because it's still fresh in my mind, like many others my age, when the infamous Pokemon Porygon episode had Pikachu give countless kids seizures with its flashing lights after first airing in Japan, making it a banned episode in North America, so I know just how seriously dangerous some videos can be when they send people to the hospital, or trigger something in a person's brain which already had undiagnosed underlying conditions. There's also the possibility of subliminal messages working on the easily influenced with weaker minds. edit: I was mostly right as it seems. I wrote this comment while I was still watching the episode. Before anybody comes down my throat, I'm not a doctor or medical expert...just happen to be someone who notices patterns a little faster than others (a symptom of my ADHD that was diagnosed late in my adult life). Although if I were the twin's doctors, I'd also recommend some better phone practices....like not looking at it in an area that requires your full attention (like the f-ing edge of the train platform!), reducing screen exposure like not looking at your phone at night, something I'm guilty of as well, especially before bed which can cause insomnia...and it wouldn't hurt to try to wear sunglasses while they're outside, and computer-glasses at home when they're in front of their TVs/monitors/phones, as the blue-light blocking lenses can reduce migraines (like it did for me). I'm learning just now that hypothyroidism can cause multiple symptoms, depression being one of many. It's a good thing that the patient didn't take the antidepressants which could have done more harm than good. Next episode...I'm gonna guess a build-up of flammable gasses from decomposing human remains and the chemicals used during embalming. |
| Ok, this anime really knows how to create an interesting plot. But this time plot twist was very simple. Just an regular epilepsy? Compared to the last one it feels too simple, but its more realistic. Takao is cute in school uniform and with ponytail, surprisingly this style suits her lol. And well, i decided to continue watch this anime. There are no another interesting anime by now to watch anyway. |
| First 3 episodes of this and it's already a banger. This one was an obvious case of epilepsy so it was pretty predictable but good episode nonetheless. Excited to see more of this gremlin |
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| The moment Takao said 'epilepsy', I immediately pause it and screamed "TOLD YA!" So this is how it feels like being an EDM fan who often sees "Epilepsy Warning" on the song's music video title. |
ninakali said: [/quote]Please do not trigger seizures in people. Dr Takao is very unprofessional :/ A very good read on the topic: https://www.animefeminist.com/porygon-was-innocent-an-epileptic-perspective-on-pokemons-electric-soldier-porygon/ That's how doctors diagnose photosensitive epilepsy. The only way to diagnose it is observe it so they trigger it under supervised conditions. Though usually they would have someone hooked up to an EEG as well. There is a video by an animator explaining the changes Japan did to prevent that. There is a few techniques used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZTH-oNk9KY Starpudding said: Whoa, thank you for sharing. Automatism, as you described it, sounds scary. Like I said hard to tell what happened. I was already just like three feet from the wall before passing out so if it was automatism rather than just falling forward then back or not able to see or feel the impact or otherwise just not remember any of what happened it was not a very long distance I went if I was walking. I used to sometimes sleep walk when I was a kid so I could see how I might be capable of automatism though. I only know I hit the wall and fell back because my mom who was coincidentally there said I did. Vasovagal response sucks sometimes lol Starpudding said: Right? It was a bit disappointing. Epilepsy is not avery mysterious. Takoa is not extraordinary in this case, just other doctors act clueless. I don't think the point was the psyche ward doctor does not know of it, just that she is egotistical never wanting to admit to not being thorough enough. That's pretty accurate of many doctors. They tend to dismiss what a patient says too easily. |
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| holy shiett this show is really interesting and good !! |
| This wasn't even on my PTW list but damn this is surpringly good. Medical stuff plus mystery stories are always enjoyable for me. And Sakura Ayane really doing great as Takao-sensei, her voice really suits the character. Can't blame Takanashi/Kotori-sensei on being "charmed" by her. She's so cool and cute and funny. |
| I think I love this show! Thought it'd be a bit too much like work, but appreciating the accuracy so far. [Ep3 spoilers] As someone with epilepsy, I saw this diagnosis coming a mile away - literally from the moment she watched the video and started moving. Must say though I really appreciated the ambiguity in the animation during that scene where it wasn't wholly clear whether she walked with intent or simply 'fell' forward. Adore that Takao listened to the girls though, since I had a long stint in psych before I was diagnosed - so this episode hit supeeer close to home. Was SCREAMING at the screen when Takao thought it'd be a good idea to induce a seizure in those poor twins though T.T |
| This episode was my least favorite of all the ones that have aired so far. I don't get why the girl at the beginning just let her sister walk off the platform, seems like she had plenty of time to grab her and stop her from walking off. Also, it doesn't really pick up where the last one left off where they introduced her sister. Still enjoying the show overall, just hope they pick back up next episode. I also hope there is an overarching storyline they delve into. I'm afraid if they just have episodes with weird medical issues that they solve in one or 2 episodes that may get a bit repetitive and boring. |
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| Man this show is great. |
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| I'm actually surprised I figured this one out before the reveal. I guess being around screens since I was a little kid taught me about epilepsy. I was kind of disappointed the solution was literally just that simple, lol. Like, they really needed Ameku to figure out that 2 genetically identical twins both having involuntary movements after watching a weird flashy video was because of epilepsy? Does the infamous Porygon episode not exist in this universe?? |
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| better than the first case I actually deduced something similar before she announced it, I'd still like a bit of a slower pace instead of her insta solving the mysteries though |
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| bro she did not have to give those girls a seizure |
| This was the best episode so far. |
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| This anime is much more realistic than Elise. Its still bold to call this house though. I did find it weird the girls didn't get any psychiatric evaluation before getting slapped with a suicidal diagnosis. Pretty straightforward episode! |
cooldogmomJan 25, 11:36 AM
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| The author described her as having autism, impairing her social and communication ability, such as being unable to understand you don’t just treat everyone like pal, ignoring things like status and position. Everyone see her as an arrogant gremlin. Although, he also said she has sensitivity to light and sound (thus her house is almost always dimly lit). But then, her seeing the video, or even browsing internet in dark room is okay? https://twitter.com/mikito_777/status/1882991708453159050 |
| Lack of Tyranosaurus Rex in this episode. It was okay. I expected something with sublimal messages or flashing lights from get go, cursed video being the theme of the mystery here, it wasn't really a reveling mystery, pretty basic episode. Spountanous combustion sounds interesting tho. |
Martin_TaylorJan 26, 8:46 AM
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| A short but pretty interesting case. Happy for the sisters. Would like to see more of Sumida Junko cause it'll be amusing. Takao looked cute in sailor schoolgirl uniform. |
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