Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
What did you think of this episode?
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Pages (2) [1] 2 »
Aug 24, 7:02 AM
#1

Offline
Dec 2021
2861
With Sengoku's story in Nadeko Draw/Nademonogatari finished, it's onto the next story in the Off Season, that being Shinbou's story in Acerola Bon Appétit/Wazamonogatari.

Shinbou’s backstory's always been hinted at. Like in Kizu where we learn she was once human, and the second season of Owari that shows her first servant. But the question always still was up in the air about how did this lovable, blond loli become a vampire? Details up till now were only hinted at through rewatches and Japanese text, leaving you to piece together your own theory. That was, until now where we finally get Shinbou's backstory... AGAIN. A mini-Kizumonogatari, I would say. Pretty fitting as well, considering their rereleasing the Kizu movies in cinemas again or something.

The story starts with a fairy tale about a beautiful princess. Everyone who saw her fell in love and gave her everything they could. It got so overwhelming that she wanted to show her inner beauty instead. A witch cast a spell to make her inner beauty shine even more, but it was so powerful that people started killing themselves, feeling unworthy to be near her. The entire country was destroyed because she was too beautiful.

Goodness. Shaft knocked it out of the planet this time. Best episode of the season so far. PEAK CINEMA.
IzanaSolosAug 24, 7:05 AM


Aug 24, 7:12 AM
#2

Offline
Apr 2010
9737
This new character is certainly messed up with her ideas and ideology making me wonder how things will unfold.
Acerola seems more normal but she seems to have some strange quirks as well.
Well for nor it will be interesting to see how things unfold.
AversaAug 24, 7:15 AM
Aug 24, 7:25 AM
#3
Offline
Aug 2016
5
Was worried about how Shaft would adapt the more "verbose" stories of Off and Monster seasons, but they managed to give Wazamonogatari a unique feel by heavily focusing on the medieval-esque aesthetic and... this looks good af!!!! Many scenes look like actual paintings and give an eery sort of feeling. Can't wait for the rest!!
Aug 24, 8:06 AM
#4

Offline
Dec 2018
72
I'm speechless. The visual style and soundtrack used here were an excellent fit. The flow of the episode was a step above the rest of this season so far, gonna have to dig through the staff credits to see if anyone specific is to thank for that.

Suicide-Master certainly has a way with naming people, which made the end credits funny, despite listing "Acerola-hime" for our girl. Super excited to see where this arc goes.
Aug 24, 8:12 AM
#5

Offline
Oct 2017
27046
How I missed Shaft at it's peak. Liked their recent works but Shaft working on Monogatari is at their best and this being a very good example of that.

Anything related to Kiss-shot is always bound to be great. Loved every moment of the episode. So this is what they meant by beauty is sin. Also lol at the chuuni vampire girl and she's also the one who named Acerola huh.
MegamiRemOct 15, 8:18 PM
Aug 24, 8:18 AM
#6

Offline
Sep 2021
435
TOOOOOOOO GOOODDDD. DEATHTOPIA VIRTUOSO SUICIDE-MASTER.
Aug 24, 8:39 AM
#7

Offline
Jul 2024
204
Really liked this episode. A+ all around; excellent art work, wonderful animation, splendid characters, top notch VA work. The producers poured it on. But I still think that ep 6.5 nonsense would have been better incorporated as backstory into the main arc.
Aug 24, 8:54 AM
#8
Offline
Jul 2024
1240
Finally starting to really enjoy this show now. I love these two characters is probably why. Solid Episode, best of the Season.
Aug 24, 9:06 AM
#9

Offline
Mar 2020
1457
Seeing what happened this episode, if anyone skipped Episode 6.5, it would be best to watch that to get context on the Beautiful Princess fairy tale.

This was more of a unique setting and story being told, as the first arc of Wazamonogatari is underway, with Acerola Bon Appétit. Essentially, this is Shinobu's backstory from when she was still human. We've gotten some tidbits of her past when Gaen explained some of her stories to us, but now, we get even more context of what kind of painful past she had. It is quite a tragic tale, with the beautiful princess bewitching everyone around her with her beauty, to the point where the citizens around her committed suicide because they could never match up to her, until the whole country or city was in ruins. We also got introduced to Deathtopia Virtuoso Suicide-Master, whose ideologies were very interesting.

Visually, this was such a treat to watch with the immaculate art. Studio Shaft is doing an excellent job, perhaps already exceeding what they've achieved in prior seasons with how great this season has looked so far. I'm greatly looking forward to what they cook up next.
Aug 24, 9:18 AM
Offline
Aug 2020
11
I definitely didn't hate Nadeko's arc as much as most people did and the finale was such a good conclusion to her events.

But I was truly not ready for this episode since I fully expected Kanbaru to be next. Our Queen Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-under-blade with her origin story just peaked the show once more with Kizu-like Shaft animation and artstyle.

It was like we were back to Kizumonogatari but even better since we are exploring the past of the invincible and too beautiful for her own good human princess Acerola~
Aug 24, 9:19 AM
Offline
Jan 2020
1984
Monogatari may actually be the greatest piece of animation ever made
Aug 24, 9:33 AM
The Shrike

Offline
Nov 2009
11580
This is great stuff. I'm getting a lot more out of this chapter alone than all the previous arc together.
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii

There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

Aug 24, 9:48 AM
Offline
Jun 2020
68
Isn't Monogatari such a weird series? The last episode was about a middle schooler chasing after her clones and taking another step of life. Now we are in the medieval witnessing the beautiful princess who can ruin nations by just existing and a vampire with a weird naming sense
Aug 24, 10:00 AM

Offline
Oct 2016
2461
The namings sound so chuuni and the logic of the character sounds kind of dumb, but it is not played for comedy. I don't know what to think for now, I'll see how the arc plays out.
Aug 24, 10:08 AM
Offline
Aug 2017
40
Reply to IzanaSolos
With Sengoku's story in Nadeko Draw/Nademonogatari finished, it's onto the next story in the Off Season, that being Shinbou's story in Acerola Bon Appétit/Wazamonogatari.

Shinbou’s backstory's always been hinted at. Like in Kizu where we learn she was once human, and the second season of Owari that shows her first servant. But the question always still was up in the air about how did this lovable, blond loli become a vampire? Details up till now were only hinted at through rewatches and Japanese text, leaving you to piece together your own theory. That was, until now where we finally get Shinbou's backstory... AGAIN. A mini-Kizumonogatari, I would say. Pretty fitting as well, considering their rereleasing the Kizu movies in cinemas again or something.

The story starts with a fairy tale about a beautiful princess. Everyone who saw her fell in love and gave her everything they could. It got so overwhelming that she wanted to show her inner beauty instead. A witch cast a spell to make her inner beauty shine even more, but it was so powerful that people started killing themselves, feeling unworthy to be near her. The entire country was destroyed because she was too beautiful.

Goodness. Shaft knocked it out of the planet this time. Best episode of the season so far. PEAK CINEMA.
@IzanaSolos absolute peak cinema indeed, they went beyond all my expectations
Aug 24, 10:11 AM
Offline
Aug 2017
40
Everytime the show is about Shinobu, they go WILD, and I love it, she deserved it all. Thank God Nisioisin created this character and paired up with Araragi, my favorite duo of all fiction.
Aug 24, 10:16 AM

Offline
Jan 2018
3811
Finally, the beginning of Shinobu's origin story. Chronologically I think this might be the first series in the Monogatari series, taking place hundreds of years before Kizumonogatari. I feel as if I should've rewatched Kizumonogatari now. I might do that after finishing this part. I kinda miss Kizumonogatari's artstyle here. I think it would've looked incredible if they did that but it might've been too expensive or something. However, the artstyle the show does have is still incredible and it's some of the most gorgeous animation I've ever seen.

One sad thing is that there might not be any OP for this arc. Or at least not an OP with a character song. Since Shinobu's VA Maaya Sakamoto doesn't believe in character songs or some nonsense like that. It's why none of Shinobu's arcs had character songs in their OPs. So, they'll probably do another OP with instrumentals. Unless they have Suicide-Master's VA sing the OP which I highly doubt will happen.

By the way, why doesn't MAL show Suicide-Master's voice actress? Was the cast not announced before? She's voiced by 61-year-old Rica Fukami. Her voice was certainly unique but I wasn't expecting her to be this old.

The ED is surprisingly still Undead by YOASOBI. I do hope they're going to change the visual in the next episode tho.

Deathtopia Virtuoso Suicide-Master is certainly a name. I have to wonder how the hell the author comes up with names like these.

Shinobu- I mean Princess Acerola looks gorgeous. I did not know she had heterochromia. I guess she got blonde eyes after she became a vampire. I do wonder how she became a vampire. This arc will answer that. Can't wait to find out.
Aug 24, 10:18 AM
Offline
Sep 2019
38
YOOOOOOOOOOO BGS AREEEE FIREEEEEE AFF
Aug 24, 10:32 AM
Offline
Oct 2010
217
This is... interesting.

Princess Acerola started out a fairly tepid, calm character, and we've now met the character that she seems to have borrowed some traits from to become the impish, snarky, adorable troll we all know and love. Deathtopia really feels like a proto-Shinobu with the way she acts and her expressions.
Aug 24, 10:39 AM

Offline
Oct 2020
72
This episode was just absolute cinema.
Aug 24, 10:53 AM
Offline
Aug 2020
5
simply beautiful.
Aug 24, 11:34 AM

Offline
Feb 2014
3960
I'm glad that I went and checked episode 6.5 just before watching this episode, as it gave me a better insight into the story of Princess Acerola and how she ended up where she is now, where everyone throws away their lives as they can't match the beauty that she has.

This is where she meets the amusingly named Deathtopia Vituoso Suicide Master. Both of their chemistry was very intriguing and was really well done. Not only that, but it felt like I was watching Kizumonogatari again, as the visual quality of the characters and the background quality, both 2D and 3D, felt very similar to that movie trilogy. It looked amazing, in all honesty. =)

Overall, this was a very satisfying episode delving into Shinobu's past, where we get to see the first set of pieces showing how she became the way she is in the present day.
Aug 24, 12:16 PM

Offline
Apr 2021
1284
Death-prepared, Death-inevitable, Death-certain Deathtopia Virtuoso Suicide-Master
Aug 24, 12:47 PM
Offline
Feb 2020
5
cinema MASTER PIECE
Aug 24, 12:53 PM
Offline
Jun 2020
1
Episode 7 is PEAK CINEMA.
Aug 24, 12:54 PM

Offline
Jun 2017
3497
No wonder they left Shinobu's story for the second part, absolutely killing it. :D
Aug 24, 12:57 PM
Offline
May 2021
16
Dangit Monogatari is so incedibly epic right now!!!!
超絶最かわてんしちゃん
私はインターネットの天使なのだ 🧬( ⁎ᵕᴗᵕ⁎ )🧬
†昇天†
Aug 24, 1:04 PM

Offline
Dec 2015
1128
A delightfully unexpected prequel to Shinobu's story. Never even thought about who turned her into a vampire. Can see where she even got that laugh from. And her mindset even has a connection to how she dealt with Koyomi in Kizumonogatari.

A bit on the nose for her to name herself suicide master.

Looking forward to seeing how this plays out and what happens to these two vampires.
Aug 24, 2:04 PM
Offline
Apr 2019
24
after more than 100 episodes of mastery, monogatari once again positions itself at the top of the food chain. absolute peak cinema and fiction. nothing quite like it in anime
Aug 24, 2:15 PM
Deadhead

Offline
Dec 2018
3953
While I don’t agree with some others here in putting down Nadeko’s arc we just came off of in favor of this one, this was a great start to this new Shinobu arc that takes place way long before she became Shinobu, heck before anything else in the series even lol, it’s very cool. And that half length 6.5 episode helped a bit with understanding what’s going on here with Princess Acerola, even if it wasn’t really needed since they touched on her story in this one, and looks like that didn’t just happen to her original kingdom, she’s been wondering around causing others to fall, very fucked up but I guess I kinda get her reasoning for doing so, she wants to make it to where this will never happen again instead of simply ending it just for things to repeat again with someone else, and I’m guessing with Suicide-Master she will somehow do that and become the Shinobu we know today.

And speaking of Suicide-Master, I guess we know why Shinobu has that absolute mouthful of a name as a vampire now lol, not only does Suicide-Master have a wild name, but so does her minion Tropicalesque. And I guess that whole curse thing works on vampires as well, to the point she’s automatically killing herself without realizing in the moment, it’s kinda funny really paired with her reactions, but now I’m really curious as to how she will end up turning Acerola into a vampire, and I’m also wondering if Suicide-Master and her minion will survive this arc since there’s nothing about them in the rest of the series, I’m definitely excited to see the rest of this arc tho.

And it looks like they are using the next part of the YOASOBI ED like they did in 6.5, nice, and I’m interested in seeing if they do another epic Shinobu OP like they have for her previous arcs, of course I’d prefer a character song but I ain’t holding out hope for that lol, the way they’ve done her OPs all this time is very cool anyway so it would be nice if they do it again.
Aug 24, 2:20 PM
Offline
Jan 2019
14
What an absolutely beautiful episode. For such a drastic shift in style this episode grabs you INSTANTLY and doesn't let go.
Aug 24, 3:31 PM

Offline
Aug 2014
753
After so many seasons, Shaft still continues to consistently deliver absolutely amazing season after season of Monogatari. Idk how they managed to make anime series where it's like 90% of it just dialogues/monologues so damn interesting but they fuckin nailed it.
Aug 24, 3:44 PM

Offline
Jan 2021
1605
I like Deathopia. She has a cool name and gives others cool names.

Her personality, specifically arrogance, seems to be something Shinobu took after in her Kiss-Shot times.

The macabre scenery of this ruined country was very appealing. In general, Monogatari scenery is beautiful.
CielordAug 24, 3:48 PM
Aug 24, 4:43 PM

Offline
Jun 2023
541
This shit so magnificent
Aug 24, 5:45 PM

Offline
Apr 2008
144
Tropicalesque Dogstrings I can't 😂
Aug 24, 5:48 PM

Offline
Apr 2022
6322
wow wazamonogatari starts and shaft really cooked harder than ever, shinobu's origins gets off to an interesting start.
Aug 24, 6:51 PM
Offline
Mar 2024
21
Absolutely fantastic. I thought the series so far looked absolutely fantastic, but this is almost unreal.
Aug 24, 7:36 PM

Offline
Aug 2020
8632
The most different one so far. I can't wait to see this arc in the novels. It was about time to watch how the deadly vampire waifu past was.

Aug 24, 9:30 PM
Offline
Apr 2021
8
What a crazy episode Shaft just cooks way too hard with Monogatari.
Aug 24, 10:58 PM

Offline
May 2021
554
Visual masterpiece.

My expectations were high... This episode was so far above anything that I could've asked for. Can't wait for next week.
Aug 24, 11:00 PM

Offline
Aug 2019
1153
Really excited for this upcoming arc, Shinobu is probably my favourite character of all time with her performance in previous seasons, and although they've occasionally sprinkled parts of her backstory throughout the series, being able to see the full picture now is something i've been dying to see for quite a while.

6.5 mini episode honestly felt like a really nice explanation and introduction for the arc. The very tragic story of the Princess of Beauty Acerola, and in her attempt to show the world her soul, placed a curse herself turning her into a walking catastrophe, was an cinema. Honestly don't think i could've asked for a more compelling backstory, or start of a backstory, than this one for Shinobu, instantly hooked on the premise and execution and desperately need more.

Interesting to see how, despite the curse, Princess Acerola refuses to end it all and thought more about a situation where if the same think were to happen to someone else, if there could be an alternative answer instead of having to just end it all.
Also interesting to see how she has a goal of "wandering journey in search for a soul to save", after hearing this line i couldn't help but think back to Kizu and Kiss-Shots mindset in those movies and the similarities and differences.

I think what's got me curious the most rn in this arc is what the transition was like for Princess Acerola to turn into the infamous Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade. I'm curious if her change of attitude or personality from the Princess to the Vampire was instantaneous, or more to do with the many centuries of being alive gradually changing her. I also found how some aspects of Kiss-Shot could be seen in Deathtopia, her iconic laugh, or her superior attitude were quite interesting to pick up on.

Deathtopia Virtuoso Suicide-Master's introduction was really impressive. I think the majority of the Vampires that have appeared in the series have all made some great long lasting impressions and staples in the show, but by God do i feel like Deathtopia's was truly something. The raw aura in her title alone combined with her superiority is insane.

Man i really do love how the majority of the Vampires in this series also have the most outlandish but badass titles ever, like they're crazier but not over the top crazy where they start sounding overly silly. Honestly how the fuck do you create badass titles such as "Deathtopia Virtuoso Suicide-Master" or the one that stunned me the most, "Tropicalesque Home-A-Wave Dog-Strings" without them starting to sound kinda silly.
I guess a merit on top of all the other merits of becoming a vampire is also being handed the pass to be able to string together the words you think sound the coolest as your new title.
Aug 25, 5:14 AM

Offline
Oct 2016
4493
Holy fuck, that was movie quality, I mean not quite like the levels of Kizu, but still really good.

I've only heard of her name before and that she had something to do with Shinobu's past, but now we're actually meeting Deathopia Virtuoso Suicide-Master, I can't believe it, I assume she's going to be the one that turns Shinobu into a vampire, though the question is how.

But, we didn't just met 1 new vampire this episode, we met 2, Tropicalesque Home-A-Wave Dog-Strings... lmao. That name makes Deathopia Virtuoso Suicide-Master seems so much more Godly in comparison.

Goddamn, so Acerola just kept travelling destroying nations in her wake in search for that person to save. I honestly don't know where this partnership will go, I mean obviously to vampirism, but before that, I don't know, there's definitely gonna be more attempts to eat Acerola that's for sure.
Aug 25, 6:32 AM

Offline
Apr 2015
690
Man, what a change in the series. This is definitely peak of fiction in anime. Shaft you did it again.

I might have developed something for Suicide-Master she is gorgeous.
Aug 25, 6:38 AM
Offline
Aug 2019
74
Beautiful, no words
Aug 25, 6:46 AM

Offline
Dec 2012
79
If the season will keep its momentum until the end, this will be the easiest 10/10 rating I've ever given.
Aug 25, 7:20 AM
Offline
Jul 2013
430
The arc that reveals the past of the legendary vampire Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade

We are not prepared for so much cinema.
Aug 25, 7:49 AM
Offline
Feb 2021
19
I’m excited to see what happens next. I feel like Tropicalesque is going to be the wild card in this arc. He is giving me big Shaiapouf from HxH vibes, which makes me wonder if Suicide-Master and princess Acerola are going to have a similar relationship development to Meruem and Komugi.
Aug 25, 8:28 AM

Offline
Aug 2020
8632
This is indeed the most different episode of the series so far... I only realized this now.

Aug 25, 11:57 AM
Offline
Oct 2020
55
ABSOLUTE CINEMA!! Can't describe how much I enjoyed it. Best in this season. And Princess Acerola is demn pretty. >.<
Aug 25, 2:30 PM
Offline
Nov 2020
1043
I read this part when I watched the original series so I was so excited to see that it was actually being adapted. This is my favorite episode of the season so far and I can’t wait to see it in its entirety. Love it 🥰
Pages (2) [1] 2 »

More topics from this board

Poll: » Monogatari Series: Off & Monster Season Episode 14 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )

IzanaSolos - Oct 19

105 by ScarRufus »»
Yesterday, 5:38 PM

Poll: » Monogatari Series: Off & Monster Season Episode 6 Discussion ( 1 2 )

IzanaSolos - Aug 10

85 by gswelcome »»
Yesterday, 4:41 PM

Poll: » Monogatari Series: Off & Monster Season Episode 5 Discussion

Softhenic03 - Aug 3

45 by Vyse_Sohma »»
Nov 2, 3:11 PM

Poll: » Monogatari Series: Off & Monster Season Episode 13 Discussion ( 1 2 )

Softhenic03 - Oct 12

51 by Ashhk »»
Oct 31, 3:06 AM

Poll: » Monogatari Series: Off & Monster Season Episode 12 Discussion

IzanaSolos - Oct 5

33 by Ashhk »»
Oct 31, 2:39 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login