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Jun 23, 3:07 PM
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Rudeus gooned to his 10 year old niece. Part of the source material put that in a backstory. People dismissing that Rudeus doesn't love cunny are gaslighting.
@rohan121
People dismissing that Rudeus doesn't love cunny are gaslighting.


I think you're right to some degree, cause there are definitely stupid people like that, though I don't believe this is the issue for everyone. I mean personally, I was hoping he would become a better person. There's no good media without character development, right? It would be a lot more interesting if he became, you know, normal.
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rohan121 said:
@Wat3rCrushertime
Rudeus gooned to his 10 year old niece. Part of the source material put that in a backstory. People dismissing that Rudeus doesn't love cunny are gaslighting.

the fuck is gooned? you mean aisha?
@Wat3rCrushertime
Not Aisha
In his previous life his 10 year old niece
Jun 23, 3:11 PM

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But we've been hearing that Rudy is actually 30+ years old for the last three years


Sure, but from the point of view of Roxy, he isn't. It would be perfectly moral for him to engage, but not for her.

I do however understand that this world has different morals and that may be fine, BUT (and this is a big but) she was forcing herself upon him while being fully aware he has a wife (and soon a child).
@Ankibank From her point of view he is a legal adult, because he is past 15 in her world.

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rohan121 said:
@Wat3rCrushertime
Not Aisha
In his previous life his 10 year old niece

WN or LN? but about past rudeus i cant defend him
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rohan121 said:
@Wat3rCrushertime
Not Aisha
In his previous life his 10 year old niece

WN or LN? but about past rudeus i cant defend him
@Wat3rCrushertime
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The original scene from it was old Rudeus purposely walked in on her while she was using the bathroom. He pretended like it was an accident for his own defense to avoid trouble.
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rohan121 said:
@Wat3rCrushertime
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The original scene from it was old Rudeus purposely walked in on her while she was using the bathroom. He pretended like it was an accident for his own defense to avoid trouble.

oh rightttttt I remember now, as I said past rudeus is undefendable but still not cannon
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Ankibank said:
@Piromysl
But we've been hearing that Rudy is actually 30+ years old for the last three years


Sure, but from the point of view of Roxy, he isn't. It would be perfectly moral for him to engage, but not for her.

I do however understand that this world has different morals and that may be fine, BUT (and this is a big but) she was forcing herself upon him while being fully aware he has a wife (and soon a child).

so if we are going by the individual's point of view, Eris saw him as a 13 y/o while Sylphie saw him as a 15-16 y/o. So why do we, as viewers, consider him otherwise and call him a pedophile?

I agree that what Roxy did with him is not right, when she was fully aware that he was married and a father to be. But, those are from our standards and beliefs.

In their world, they believe that grief can be healed through sexual activities and that's why Roxy went ahead and slept with him after Elinalise suggested it. She was fully aware that she is taking advantage of his condition.

Eris also slept with Rudeus to get over her sorrow of losing her parents.

If anything, I feel like Rudeus is getting used here.
Jun 23, 5:05 PM

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I find it hilarious how people try to force their morality on a story. Do people honestly expect that during the middle ages polygamy was not a common thing?
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Jaevyn said:
I find it hilarious how people try to force their morality on a story. Do people honestly expect that during the middle ages polygamy was not a common thing?

Can't forget that once past puberty all was fair game. Not that I'm a historian or anything but people weren't as bothered with it.
Jun 23, 5:23 PM

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I swear people have never heard of a Assertive women before and context what just happen is so different compared to "forcing yourself".
Jun 23, 6:07 PM

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It's chill they both of age.
Jun 23, 6:17 PM
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People saying this a bait post or whatever and im looking at some replies that assume I'm just a hater or something and I'm genuinely confused. idk where else all this controversy or arguing has gone done but trust me I have not been part of it.
Jun 23, 6:18 PM
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lol did we just watch a women in her 40s or 50s force herself on a minor?

Average twitter tourist complaining about the same shit for the 1000th time don’t you guys ever get tired?
@Uruichi not rly a tourist if I've watched all 3 seasons you can check my account if u want
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Keep em coming
No need to dodge
He can take them all
bruh
Jun 23, 6:37 PM
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@animegamer245 doesn't matter if it'd be legal, this just sounds like a dystopia where it's legally okay to fuck kids
@AwokenStroken oh so my country Poland is dystopia then xDD
Jun 23, 6:40 PM
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- Roxy is a Migurd. In human terms, she is about 19-20yo.
- Rudeus is a human of almost 17 (adulthood is 15).
- Roxy doesn't force him as you mean.

Any other questions?

It's always funny to see this inconstancy in considering Rudeus either as a child, or as a 34yo adult...
Jun 23, 6:44 PM
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Rudy is already married so he's not new to sex, he has a kid on the way and this is another universe with different morals, they even sell slaves in this universe, which I don't agree of course, but it is what it is.

With that out of the way, Roxy is old enough to have sex and in this universe, someone like Rudy is also old enough to get married and have sex too so Roxy didn't really "force herself on a minor" because in this universe Rudy is not a minor anymore, and mentally Rudy is also like 50+ years old or something.
Jun 23, 6:56 PM
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People see anything weird with age and they immediately jump to pedophilia
They could be 100 and 100,000 and people will call it pedophilia because they love drama
@Bolona07 when somethings weird with in age in this context what else would u jump too?
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Another bait thread sheesh these shits related to age doesn't apply in isekai genre don't you guyz get tired of this?
@GeoXsf9 I dont know who your referring to when you say "you guys" who are these guys? lol cuz im not one of them
Jun 23, 6:58 PM
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The people hating now just don't make total sense now
@er_ror genuine question = hate
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all these people coming at me with these predetermined responses writing me off as a troll/hater and im just here confused i knew there was controversy on this topic but I didnt know people were so passionate and serious about it. i dropped this thread after I watched it in the morning and now i comeback to all this wth is going on? 😭
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But we've been hearing that Rudy is actually 30+ years old for the last three years, which was quite literally #1 hater talking point. Can haters make up their mind?

I know it's a bait thread, but it perfectly exposes and mocks average MT hater, whether it was intentional or not.
@Piromysl
cant forget the standard package
of going to the baiters profile and seeing
his entire favs is just as problematic shit as MT
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded
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notrod said:
@er_ror genuine question = hate

It wasnt a genuine question, you made an affermation, trying to play victim now lol
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@er_ror genuine question = hate

It wasnt a genuine question, you made an affermation, trying to play victim now lol
@SuntProstMare victim is crazy ngl 😭
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@Piromysl
cant forget the standard package
of going to the baiters profile and seeing
his entire favs is just as problematic shit as MT
@Mei-o_Scarlett you mean my favs?
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@Wat3rCrushertime So you didn't get what i tried to say.

no i did get what you said
@Wat3rCrushertime Then your reply don't make any sense.
Jun 23, 8:54 PM

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what minor
they are all adults
Jun 23, 9:27 PM

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Well from what I can remember so far is that if we take account of Rudy's prev life age and all and compare that with Roxy they're both essentially are adults of the same age, but I have a feeling this is a bait post because you haven't explained enough context op sir or if not be more should I say assertive.

Jun 23, 10:08 PM
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Considering how Roxy looks this didn't even cross my mind. lol
Jun 23, 10:38 PM
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AwokenStroken said:
@animegamer245 doesn't matter if it'd be legal, this just sounds like a dystopia where it's legally okay to fuck kids

It's weird how a fictional world with 15 as adulthood more bother you then the real world, who has the majority of age of consent as 14-16.

But sure whatever you say.
@Cielord How do you know it bothers me more? Can you perform esp or something?
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@AwokenStroken oh so my country Poland is dystopia then xDD
@DatGuyRedux I mean... yeah, an age of consent that low is pretty cringe honestly.
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@Cielord How do you know it bothers me more? Can you perform esp or something?
@AwokenStroken Cause Mushoku tensei haters tend to be like it. And in general any complaint about a fictional world morals is a red flag.
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Uhh.. maybe I should wait for the dust to settle before continuing the binge. There's already been a few sus moments in the show from earlier seasons but for the most part people have given the show a pass due to the narrative and it being anime.
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AwokenStroken said:
@DatGuyRedux I mean... yeah, an age of consent that low is pretty cringe honestly.

because It as settings of a medieval period, tf It means Is cringe?? bet you dont know, also this imply that you also "cringe" our history(of the world), something that you shouldnt be ashamed of because we made the world a Better place in centuries.
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Ah. You tried to make a joke, but forgot Rudy is legally an adult, a home owner, married, and has a baby on the way.
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
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Ba-Cii10 said:
@V1P3R0P this is not my logic, Rudeus is a pedophile because he is an adult and has sex with a child, blue is a pedophile because she is an adult and has sex with a child, what don't you understand?

Wait, what did he do?
Jun 24, 1:24 AM
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notrod said:
@Uruichi not rly a tourist if I've watched all 3 seasons you can check my account if u want

That you’re worse honestly
Jun 24, 2:10 AM

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Lmao the mental gymnastics of haters in this thread, really been fun to read , thanks twitter tourists
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Someday people will stop provoking absolutely delusional and made-up conflicts around Mushoku Tensei, but apparently that day has not come yet.
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@V1P3R0P this is not my logic, Rudeus is a pedophile because he is an adult and has sex with a child, blue is a pedophile because she is an adult and has sex with a child, what don't you understand?

Wait, what did he do?
@paparoski02 Who? Rudeus? had sex with a child in the first season
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Bolona07 said:
People see anything weird with age and they immediately jump to pedophilia
They could be 100 and 100,000 and people will call it pedophilia because they love drama

and they are still watching even after 3 other seasons 🤣
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@paparoski02 Who? Rudeus? had sex with a child in the first season
@Ba-Cii10 did the image not load?
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When fictional characters ages are pretty much nonexistent. 🤣🤣🤣
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
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Here, let me give you a clear, unbiased and level headed assessment of this situation. Originally published on the web novel site Shōsetsuka ni Narō in November 2012, a year later it was announced the series would receive a print release under Media Factory's MF Books imprint with illustrations done by a Pixiv user called Shirotaka. A manga adaptation by Yuka Fujikawa began serialization in the June 2014 issue of Monthly Comic Flapper while three spin-offs were also released. Seven Seas Entertainment licensed the tankōbon volumes of the manga for localization in North America. The company also has licensed the original light novels. An anime television series adaptation produced by Studio Bind aired from January to December 2021. A second season premiered in July 2023. Given the decade between release dates, how old are any of the characters? Did the event you're talking about occur in the "present" or the past when it was first written? The ancient Greeks recognized the difference between chronological time (chronos) and subjective time (kairos); do you? Do these characters? Is it even a concept in the universe the characters inhabit? The Kappa effect or perceptual time dilation is a form of temporal illusion verifiable by experiment. The temporal duration between a sequence of consecutive stimuli is thought to be relatively longer or shorter than its actual elapsed time, due to the spatial/auditory/tactile separation between each consecutive stimuli. The kappa effect can be displayed when considering a journey made in two parts that each take an equal amount of time. When mentally comparing these two sub-journeys, the part that covers more distance may appear to take longer than the part covering less distance, even though they take an equal amount of time. Is that what is happening here? I don't think you were prepared to have a long honest look at the concept of time from perspectives not your own. Tachypsychia is a neurological condition that alters the perception of time, usually induced by physical exertion, drug use, or a traumatic event. For someone affected by tachypsychia, time perceived by the individual either lengthens, making events appear to slow down, or contracts, with objects appearing as moving in a speeding blur. I feel I'm getting a wee bit off topic so I'll end it here, for now. But don't think this is over, I have much to to teach you about the concept we call time and how it is linked with space, reality, the mind, the soul and ultimately power. Good day to you sir, or madame, pardon me for assuming your gender, I will bid you adieu.
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notrod said:
@GeoXsf9 I dont know who your referring to when you say "you guys" who are these guys? lol cuz im not one of them

Yes you're legit one of 'em
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Some people say Roxy is loly Rudy is Pedo
And now some saying Roxy forced upon a minor.
They are hating this for absurd reasons now.

I can accept not accepting Harem aspect but this people don't understand Reincarnation even after 4 seasons
@WaterMage_658 I just say that Roxy is pretty shitty for forcing herself on someone grieving. It's so fucked up.
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The main character of your favorite show almost wiped out the entire human species

Maybe the moral compass of the characters is not the best barometer for the quality of a show
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Oh now he's a minor? Where's the "he's a 40yo man" energy at?, I need to remind you that in MT world 15 is legal age and Rudeus is 16yo.
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It's fiction, cry about something else.
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@WaterMage_658 I just say that Roxy is pretty shitty for forcing herself on someone grieving. It's so fucked up.
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That was a censored part of the anime adaptation. In the source material Rudeus threw Roxy down and he himself started the cheating with her slight consent. He was very rough, but the anime tried to spin it so Rudy did not look so morally bad. Roxy did not originally plan to bang Rudy when she found out he has a wife, but Rudy insisted on it.
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