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einstorage6691 said: bruh... they buy slave not because they want to save her. but because they want to find someone who can make figure for Zanoba. watch the episode smh.... yeah i was just frustrated :D |
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| Love that this ep isn´t about ¨hey slavery is bad let´s save all¨ no... that happens often in that world, is a business and you can´t do anything about it not like others isekais where the mc is a god of salvation rudeus is just trying to save A LIFE in his own and by his own methods |
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Fantasylord2205 said: not like others isekais where the mc is a god of salvation Did you watch the first season? Genuinely asking because there's a whole arc establishing that slavery is bad with Rudeus acting like "a god of salvation" (aka a normal 21st century human being). |
El-Melloi said: yeah but in this arc he don´t do it cuz he learns how works the world, the slavery won't ends, nothing of that will change, he accepted it and moved on, no like others mc who just try to do good ALL TIMEFantasylord2205 said: not like others isekais where the mc is a god of salvation Did you watch the first season? Genuinely asking because there's a whole arc establishing that slavery is bad with Rudeus acting like "a god of salvation" (aka a normal 21st century human being). |
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| Leave it to MT to subvert our expectations of a Magic Academy arc to an "Am I possibly gay(yes, you are)?" arc. |
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El-Melloi said: The circumstances surrounding that were a bit more complex I feel. First he had Ruijerd as moral compass with his hardliner attitude. Then he was contracted to free those children. And then those slaves weren't "slaves" as in they couldn't pay their debt and were enslaved or the parents sold their children because they couldnt provide for them and hoped that they would at least survive like this. No they were abducted children. The slave part was somewhat irrelevant for that plotline. Slavery in that world is normalized and Rudy is no paragon of virtue.Fantasylord2205 said: not like others isekais where the mc is a god of salvation Did you watch the first season? Genuinely asking because there's a whole arc establishing that slavery is bad with Rudeus acting like "a god of salvation" (aka a normal 21st century human being). Just to make sure I'm not misunderstodd. This is obviously not a pro-slavery take. It's abhorent in real life but the show is going out of its way to show that this is something very common and therefore it doesn't ruffle any feathers of anyone involved. |
ArkanietAug 14, 2023 12:39 PM
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| This episode went by really freaking fast, can't wait to see what Juliette cooks up |
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Thicc_Ink said: what the actual fuck was this episode????? I can't believe they're doing a slave bit with such a lack of self awareness. Seriously, buying a slave child to help a horny otaku make figurines being played off as such a normal thing without a single acknowledgement of how fucked up it is. It's weird and gross. It also just feels really out of place for the characters, why would Rudy just not care about the literal slavery when he was murdering slave traders in the demi-human village. You're telling me the guy who first hand saw the cruelty of how slaves were taken from their homes is just going to make a casual day out of literally buying a slave??????????????????? And a fucking child at that?????? Same thing with Sylphie, you're telling me the elf has no reaction to going out of their way to buy a nonhuman slave because they're more naturally dexterous? This isn't even the story being "grimdark" or "just part of the time period" because it's treated so flippantly without any actual thought or care put into the way it's being portrayed. Seriously, the medieval salve market has window stalls where people stand perfectly still and expressionless? Sorry that's not how that shit worked, and it's really weird of the show to try and portray SLAVERY as some kind of clean and sterile storefront. Absolute embarrassment. I guess fool on me for thinking this show had the self respect to actually care for it's characters instead of focusing a huge portion of this arc on a lame otaku bit character in a bland ass anime highschool setting. Oh look more faux outrage from another tourist, how original |
FrozenRaider said: Ahhh yes. Slaves market....my favourite. No no guys. Don't think about the fact that rudeus is, with no convincing, taking part in one of the most evil systems humans can think of, because like.... he's really nice and gonna be really nice to her. Really we need to think of her more as his daughter or younger sister... that he legally owns as property. And shes like a dwarf so, really that's not all that different than like... well having a dog isn't slavery... Yeah it's like... if your daughter was a dog. Property rights. Gotta love em! Plus they are keeping the puppy busy by letting her make hentai figures for his down bad friend. And who knows it might even be compensated labor! Truthfully that is the cliff hanger here. I am biting my nails waiting for that answer. If there was a better reason to get a slave, I mean pet than making hentai figures I'd like to hear it! |
senebris said: Thicc_Ink said: where were you when bro was lusting after his mom and fucking a 14 year old lmaowhat the actual fuck was this episode????? I can't believe they're doing a slave bit with such a lack of self awareness. Seriously, buying a slave child to help a horny otaku make figurines being played off as such a normal thing without a single acknowledgement of how fucked up it is. It's weird and gross. It also just feels really out of place for the characters, why would Rudy just not care about the literal slavery when he was murdering slave traders in the demi-human village. You're telling me the guy who first hand saw the cruelty of how slaves were taken from their homes is just going to make a casual day out of literally buying a slave??????????????????? And a fucking child at that?????? Same thing with Sylphie, you're telling me the elf has no reaction to going out of their way to buy a nonhuman slave because they're more naturally dexterous? This isn't even the story being "grimdark" or "just part of the time period" because it's treated so flippantly without any actual thought or care put into the way it's being portrayed. Seriously, the medieval salve market has window stalls where people stand perfectly still and expressionless? Sorry that's not how that shit worked, and it's really weird of the show to try and portray SLAVERY as some kind of clean and sterile storefront. Absolute embarrassment. I guess fool on me for thinking this show had the self respect to actually care for it's characters instead of focusing a huge portion of this arc on a lame otaku bit character in a bland ass anime highschool setting. There are two types of people who watch this show and as far as I have seen there are no moderates. People hate watching the fuck out of this, apauled that it keeps getting worst and worst. Such as me and this guy, and apparently people who think the show is a masterpiece. Thankfully some of the people who like the show at least understand that acts of heroism does not excuse an otherwise morally bankrupt and repugnant personality such as that of rudeus greyrat. |
nobody886 said: I feel bad for the new slave I wonder what kind of sculptures he will have her make I wouldn’t put it past him to do somrhing mature I thought making figures that at least border r18 was actually the whole reason they got the slave. Given zanobas inspiration was the undressable Roxy one. |
| Zanoba just casually drops the fact that he had accidentally killed his younger brother wtf lool Speaking of, do we really go slave-shopping for him to find someone who can learn to sculpt figures? Is Zanoba's figure-making really that important a plot element to have a whole episode dedicated to it?? Only reason I can think of is that Juliette here will become an important character later on and they need a way to introduce her. Just a bit of an odd way to introduce her, that's all. On an unrelated note, I really like how we can see through Sylph- I mean Fitz's, "sunglasses". We can see all of those cute expressions and if she was actually a boy she'd be making me gay fr. Also no Elina sightings today, and I'm still confused as to why she's here. I mean we all know WHY, just, why? Not that I'm complaining IN THE SLIGHTEST. We men welcome her with open arms into this arc. But she initially showed up to find Rudeus and give him the good news of his mother being alive, right? And she just stuck around getting railed, and now she's with him at school for some reason. Again, no complaints WHATSOEVER, but it's still kind of weird lol |
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Arkaniet said: It's abhorent in real life but the show is going out of its way to show that this is something very common and therefore it doesn't ruffle any feathers of anyone involved. It's not "a show" for Rudeus though. If it was, he would still be sexually assaulting every female character he encounters. One of the points of the story is that it is so real for him that the people who used to be scattered around the world are considered his actual family. I'm not stupid and can tell he couldn't abolish slavery by himself right there right now, but the way it's portrayed in the episode overnormalized it with little criticism coming from Rudeus or his inner thoughts. |
| All the isekai tropes really do come from mushoku tensei don't they. Didn't realise even the kind child slave owner trope started here too. |
| It seems like Rudeus is beginning to enjoy the school life while Zenoba begs him to teach him how to make sculptures. Sylph decides to help Rudeus with the mass teleportation or to do research on it but this dude still doesn't know that its Sylph. I feel like Sylph gives many hints but he still doesn't realize or something, even though he blushes most of the times. Also he thinks that Sylph is a male for some reason. Sylph patiently waiting for Rudeus to invite her alongside with Zenoba. The slave market was rather disturbing to see tbh, i just didn't feel comfortable looking at all those people being chained up in cages. At least Rudeus rescued one girl out of the cage. I'm glad that she has a safer place now. Juliette is a nice name for her. Seeing her smile after so long made me feel happy. Rudeus even teaching her languages, man he really has grown up i feel like, almost looks like parenting. |
__andre__Aug 15, 2023 2:08 AM
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| Poor little girl being a slave, I guess I should be happy they didn't kill her, at least... |
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| MOFOS Bait and switched us!!!! Rudeus is into boys only. Im not into BL anime...dropping |
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timeforward said: yeah this story could have just been a normal fantasy setting for the most part with the MC having a troubled childhood for trauma and they could have even scrapped the pedo stuff by making everything else happen a few years later.Comander-07 said: As far as story telling goes, the fact he had a previous life seems to serve only the purpose of having the viewers angry at him.Even with everything going on in this show I have to say even if I disagree with it I can atleast understand it, well you can probably guess the very specific issue I am talking about, but Rudeus just naturally beeing okay with slavery is something I really dont buy. Not even a single line about the moral issue of slavery from him? He was an adult in modern japan and he doesnt see any issue with slavery? Thats the most disgusting thing I have seen from this show, which is really something considering the disgusting things he already tried in S1.. This is really surprising to me, I thought his bad behaviour was supposed to be a thing from the past which he is aware about, but this wasnt even portrayed like a big deal? Yes he wasnt a fan of the individuals situations once he saw them but he really had 0 issue with the concept itself.. Ps: The cure for ED are traps, this anime confirmed it It's kinda funny how he has this history with him but it doesn't affect at all how the people in his world view him, no attempt to translate any real world influence or morals through him. Heck for the purpose of the story you could remove the past life entirely and it would work just the same, all his problems could very well be the same in a regular troubled youth. The only difference would be the moral questions that the viewers have, his private life and past as far as the story went so far in the anime exists only for us. |
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| This episode felt weird as hell. Not really because of the slave thing, since that's practically expected from the genre as this point. Rather, the way they acted about it just felt weird. "I'm trying to teach this guy how to do something, but he sucks at it" "Oh, you should have him buy a slave to do it for him *tehe*" "great idea." "umm... can I come with you?" *blushes* As if going to a dingy dirty place to buy a slave is a romantic idea at all. |
MangagnaM said: i did understood that the guy cant make any figurines, the thing was his plan, it seems odd to me, maybe its normal there but i thought if he can just find a scultor to make the figurines, getting a slave to do it for him instead is something i wasnt expectingsilversaint said: Zanoba is a Blessed Child and has superhuman strength and is clumsy when the job requires a lot of precision and dexterity, which he just does not have whatsoever (hell his clumsiness basically killed his brother with a lack of control over himself nor his power). He won't ever be able to learn to make anything close to figurines, let alone what Rudeus showed him basically. The dwarf girl being young and having good dexterity could develop her mana pool and practice enough earth magic to do basically what Zanoba cant. Obviously he knows Rudeus cant just help him with that all the time either since he has his own things to do so that was his alternate, somewhat.this dude compared his old life to that of a child slave like WHAT? that aside this scene at the slave market is easily the most interesting one in this second season so far which TBH has been quite boring for the most part also i dont get this plan, he cant make a figurine on his own so he buys a child to teach them how to make them for him? huh |
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| ya just love to see a isekai'd individual buy a loli slave |
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