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| Third episode and the Griffith´s plan walk very well!! Once again, the part of the castle, the violence is tremendous, not because of the blood but because of the act!!! kekeke Griffith's words I think have reached Gutts' soul and surely the next episode will have new surprises!!! |
| No matter how many times I watch, Adonis death is just sad. And again the Griffith's monologue that may have locked the timeline. |
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| Damn, they're really trying their best to get the Golden Age arc any% record, aren't they? There's some good stuff here - Adonis' death and the scene at the end where Casca realises it was Guts who killed him in particular, not to mention the scene at the fountain - but it's all far too fast-paced. Nothing has room to breathe. Hopefully they'll slow down when adapting the rest of the movie trilogy. |
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| I still don't understand why guts was so triggered. Caska took it well since she was already replaced with guts lolz. Griffith was merely flexing in front of a gal. Most bro's do that and we understand immediately. No hard feelings. |
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| And that would be end of the first movie. I really enjoyed those extended scenes. Oh, the new op and end were fire. Three fucking episodes! Berserk 1997 needed 10 episodes to reach this point but, I guess this is way better... At this point, I don't even care anymore. |
| 3 episodes an the first movie is done, i didnt notice any extended scene despite the complains i like some of the fighting coreography |
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Rasco said: Honestly same. I have read the golden age arc 3 times and i never got why Guts has that reaction in that specific scene, and why he was looking for Griffith after doing what he agreed to in the first place. That part of their relationship always rubbed me the wrong way, sometimes it looks like Guts has 100% trust in Griffith and seconds later the mood completly changes.I still don't understand why guts was so triggered. Caska took it well since she was already replaced with guts lolz. Griffith was merely flexing in front of a gal. Most bro's do that and we understand immediately. No hard feelings. I still think the Golden Age is a masterful arc and one of my favs, thats the only thing i dont really get |
| To a manga-reader and first-time watcher, this episode was surprisingly good, I almost lost all hope after the last episode which was extremely rushed and chopped up. The pacing of many scenes in the episode is still rushed. However, they take the time to settle down and linger on the scenes that really matter. Two scenes in particular stand out to me as very faithful and effective: the conversation between Guts and Griffith about "laying down one's life for the other's sake", and the nighttime staircase "dreams" scene with the main trio. I thought the 2D animation in those scenes was at times very detailed and expressive, and combined with the art direction and music, I actually found those parts to be beautiful and moving. For this portion of the story, only a few things were left out from the manga: among other things, Guts being stopped by Caska from seeing his injured friend, and the beginnings of a conspiracy against Griffith. I don't think they seriously cripple the characters or the story, at least when compared to the removal of Guts' childhood and his early days in the Band of the Hawk. The 3D animation continues to be a little distracting, but the episode contained fewer action sequences and fantastical elements, so it didn't stand out as much as before. I have to say I did enjoy the fight choreography during Guts' escape sequence: it was pretty complex and creative when it didn't really need to be. At this point I'm thinking the show is worth sticking with. |
Rasco said: I still don't understand why guts was so triggered. Caska took it well since she was already replaced with guts lolz. Griffith was merely flexing in front of a gal. Most bro's do that and we understand immediately. No hard feelings. DinoPapiro said: Honestly same. I have read the golden age arc 3 times and i never got why Guts has that reaction in that specific scene, and why he was looking for Griffith after doing what he agreed to in the first place. That part of their relationship always rubbed me the wrong way, sometimes it looks like Guts has 100% trust in Griffith and seconds later the mood completly changes. I still think the Golden Age is a masterful arc and one of my favs, thats the only thing i dont really get Doesn't Guts' frustration originate from the fact that this "trust" in Griffith made him kill a kid and yet the guy doesn't even consider him a real friend? |
Rasco said: I still don't understand why guts was so triggered. Caska took it well since she was already replaced with guts lolz. Griffith was merely flexing in front of a gal. Most bro's do that and we understand immediately. No hard feelings. With out going in philosophical rant watch the opening scene with Griffith and Guts. Then compare it to the dialogue of Griffith and Charlotte. (Philopsical Rant in 3..2.. 1...) In a lot of ways Guts has taken the position of Casca as when Griffith first saw Guts and revealed a side to him that Casca had never experienced. Now Guts is playing second fiddle to some princess. I'm also under the belief that Guts snapped because of all the repeated warnings his teammates told him. I.e- about only wanting to kill/use his sword. Edit- I should mention the conversation with the Princess and the G man was a private one. I do not believe Griffith had knew that his subordinates were listening in on him. |
MariklynOct 15, 2022 6:08 PM
| the episode 3 ends in the same like in the first movie tho, nothing much has changed aside from improving models. looks like the later episodes that adapts the second movie will only get additional parts that were cut. |
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| The art and animation that two horses entered into a brook is beautiful. |
| Huh, they covered all the rest of the movie in one go, cutting some scenes in the process. Not a perfect episode port in this edited version, since we lose nuances of body language and characterization for Charlotte (which was already a weaker compared to the manga and 97 anime), as well as some establishing background like the scenes during the party with Corkus and the others, by trimming down some shots. I'm guessing they really just wanted to get through the first movie quick instead of improving upon it, being the shortest and most problematic one in the trilogy, which was kind of the opposite of what I was expecting with this TV Edit in terms of potential improvements like the upcoming Bonfire of Dreams segment. All in all, the rest was nearly all the same. Results for the first movie: We lost a few cuts that actually mattered, got the pacing to flow better, and a dozen of corrections that made the CGI and cinematography of some scenes more watchable. Still the same 6/10 I gave to it however. It's just fine, good recap for Berk fans for the first portion of the story, just not fully representative of the manga as it could have been with more content dedicated to it (the hand-drawn animation is great if you gloss over the bad CGI in some portions). It still is the strongest individual part of the first movie however, and an utmost significant part of the arc as a whole. I'll go with a 3.5/5 for the episode because of the unfortunately trimmed substance and call it a day (still leaning to a 4/5 though). |
DanpmssOct 15, 2022 7:51 PM
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Mariklyn said: With out going in philosophical rant watch the opening scene with Griffith and Guts. Then compare it to the dialogue of Griffith and Charlotte. (Philopsical Rant in 3..2.. 1...) In a lot of ways Guts has taken the position of Casca as when Griffith first saw Guts and revealed a side to him that Casca had never experienced. Now Guts is playing second fiddle to some princess. I'm also under the belief that Guts snapped because of all the repeated warnings his teammates told him. I.e- about only wanting to kill/use his sword. Edit- I should mention the conversation with the Princess and the G man was a private one. I do not believe Griffith had knew that his subordinates were listening in on him. Very good point on comparing the two conversations here. In the beginning of the episode, Griffith basically spells it out for Guts: "do I need a reason to risk myself for your sake?" Fast-forward to this scene between Griffith and Charlotte, Griffith is basically saying "I don't have a reason to risk myself for anybody, including Guts". If I hear contradictory statements about me when I'm in the room versus when I'm not, I will definitely get more hung up on what was said when I'm not around... Rasco said: I still don't understand why guts was so triggered. Caska took it well since she was already replaced with guts lolz. Griffith was merely flexing in front of a gal. Most bro's do that and we understand immediately. No hard feelings. DinoPapiro said: Honestly same. I have read the golden age arc 3 times and i never got why Guts has that reaction in that specific scene, and why he was looking for Griffith after doing what he agreed to in the first place. That part of their relationship always rubbed me the wrong way, sometimes it looks like Guts has 100% trust in Griffith and seconds later the mood completly changes. I still think the Golden Age is a masterful arc and one of my favs, thats the only thing i dont really get I feel Guts' reaction to be fairly understandable. Simply put, Guts has always considered Griffith as a close friend, in a pure and puppy-dog sort of way, and he imagined that Griffith regarded him in a similar way. And now Guts is realizing that might not necessarily be true. I think this scene would have hit the character of Guts especially hard. Griffith and the Band of the Hawk are the only decent human connections he's had in his life, and he only recently started to believe that he is liked by someone and is important to someone. At this point in the story, Griffith is probably the only one Guts considers his "friend", and the biggest reason Guts continues fighting. And given the fact that Griffith has already risked his life and dream multiple times to save Guts, and given their heart-to-heart conversations, Guts would have been imagining Griffith also considered him a friend. It would have been difficult for Guts to just brush off this comment. It would have been difficult and out-of-character for Guts to be more understanding, thinking "he's trying to impress this girl", for example. Guts is not a complicated guy. He takes things at face value and does not tend to "read between the lines" or "pick up on the little things" (that's Judeau's job :P). The character of Griffith is something of a mystery, which probably complicates matters more. Most other characters see him as something more than an ordinary man, and no one can really claim to have him figured out. We the audience also see many different sides to the character. It's not surprising to me that Guts is now thinking he hasn't understood Griffith at all. Recent events would also have been challenging Guts view on their friendship. Guts has recently started to notice the widening gap between Griffith's path and his own. Earlier in the story, Guts and Griffith were more or less guys fighting together on the battlefield. But now, Griffith is surrounded by nobles and courting a princess, and Guts is... still swinging his sword; they can't even meet up whenever they want to anymore. A few hours ago, Guts just carried out an assassination under Griffith's orders. Initially, Guts did 100% trust Griffith and wanted to help his friend. He even half-jokingly told Griffith, "you could just order me, you know". But as he actually carries it out, he realizes only then how much of a dirty work Griffith was asking of him. And as it goes horribly wrong, it shakes him to his core (especially so considering his violent childhood, which the show sadly omitted; in the manga, remember he even has a dream where he sees himself as a demon). My guess is that he's having hard time keeping it together and wants to talk to someone. And now, the author sets the scene on a staircase and put Griffith at the top, with Griffith looking towards his dream, not even aware of Guts, who is down the stairs, injured and dirty. Guts understands that he cannot approach Griffith at this time. Guts hears Griffith specifically say that he despises people who simply follow orders. I'd say all of this really hammers home to Guts the feeling of "we are not on the same level, not even close" and "he doesn't really see me as a friend". I think the impact of this moment trickles down throughout the entire story and is given even more context later on. Notably, Guts starts contemplating what his own dream is, i.e. the bonfire of dreams, and this question affects many of Guts' big decisions. I really like this scene in the manga, and thought the episode did a great job adapting it, so wanted to share how I see it. |
perseiiOct 15, 2022 8:19 PM
perseii said: Mariklyn said: With out going in philosophical rant watch the opening scene with Griffith and Guts. Then compare it to the dialogue of Griffith and Charlotte. (Philopsical Rant in 3..2.. 1...) In a lot of ways Guts has taken the position of Casca as when Griffith first saw Guts and revealed a side to him that Casca had never experienced. Now Guts is playing second fiddle to some princess. I'm also under the belief that Guts snapped because of all the repeated warnings his teammates told him. I.e- about only wanting to kill/use his sword. Edit- I should mention the conversation with the Princess and the G man was a private one. I do not believe Griffith had knew that his subordinates were listening in on him. Very good point on comparing the two conversations here. In the beginning of the episode, Griffith basically spells it out for Guts: "do I need a reason to risk myself for your sake?" Fast-forward to this scene between Griffith and Charlotte, Griffith is basically saying "I don't have a reason to risk myself for anybody, including Guts". If I hear contradictory statements about me when I'm in the room versus when I'm not, I will definitely get more hung up on what was said when I'm not around... Rasco said: I still don't understand why guts was so triggered. Caska took it well since she was already replaced with guts lolz. Griffith was merely flexing in front of a gal. Most bro's do that and we understand immediately. No hard feelings. DinoPapiro said: Honestly same. I have read the golden age arc 3 times and i never got why Guts has that reaction in that specific scene, and why he was looking for Griffith after doing what he agreed to in the first place. That part of their relationship always rubbed me the wrong way, sometimes it looks like Guts has 100% trust in Griffith and seconds later the mood completly changes. I still think the Golden Age is a masterful arc and one of my favs, thats the only thing i dont really get I feel Guts' reaction to be fairly understandable. Simply put, Guts has always considered Griffith as a close friend, in a pure and puppy-dog sort of way, and he imagined that Griffith regarded him in a similar way. And now Guts is realizing that might not necessarily be true. I think this scene would have hit the character of Guts especially hard. Griffith and the Band of the Hawk are the only decent human connections he's had in his life, and he only recently started to believe that he is liked by someone and is important to someone. At this point in the story, Griffith is probably the only one Guts considers his "friend", and the biggest reason Guts continues fighting. And given the fact that Griffith has already risked his life and dream multiple times to save Guts, and given their heart-to-heart conversations, Guts would have been imagining Griffith also considered him a friend. It would have been difficult for Guts to just brush off this comment. It would have been difficult and out-of-character for Guts to be more understanding, thinking "he's trying to impress this girl", for example. Guts is not a complicated guy. He takes things at face value and does not tend to "read between the lines" or "pick up on the little things" (that's Judeau's job :P). The character of Griffith is something of a mystery, which probably complicates matters more. Most other characters see him as something more than an ordinary man, and no one can really claim to have him figured out. We the audience also see many different sides to the character. It's not surprising to me that Guts is now thinking he hasn't understood Griffith at all. Recent events would also have been challenging Guts view on their friendship. Guts has recently started to notice the widening gap between Griffith's path and his own. Earlier in the story, Guts and Griffith were more or less guys fighting together on the battlefield. But now, Griffith is surrounded by nobles and courting a princess, and Guts is... still swinging his sword; they can't even meet up whenever they want to anymore. A few hours ago, Guts just carried out an assassination under Griffith's orders. Initially, Guts did 100% trust Griffith and wanted to help his friend. He even half-jokingly told Griffith, "you could just order me, you know". But as he actually carries it out, he realizes only then how much of a dirty work Griffith was asking of him. And as it goes horribly wrong, it shakes him to his core (especially so considering his violent childhood, which the show sadly omitted; in the manga, remember he even has a dream where he sees himself as a demon). My guess is that he's having hard time keeping it together and wants to talk to someone. And now, the author sets the scene on a staircase and put Griffith at the top, with Griffith looking towards his dream, not even aware of Guts, who is down the stairs, injured and dirty. Guts understands that he cannot approach Griffith at this time. Guts hears Griffith specifically say that he despises people who simply follow orders. I'd say all of this really hammers home to Guts the feeling of "we are not on the same level, not even close" and "he doesn't really see me as a friend". I think the impact of this moment trickles down throughout the entire story and is given even more context later on. Notably, Guts starts contemplating what his own dream is, i.e. the bonfire of dreams, and this question affects many of Guts' big decisions. I really like this scene in the manga, and thought the episode did a great job adapting it, so wanted to share how I see it. haha wonderfully said. |
Danpmss said: Huh, they covered all the rest of the movie in one go, cutting some scenes in the process. Not a perfect episode port in this edited version, since we lose nuances of body language and characterization for Charlotte (which was already a weaker compared to the manga and 97 anime), as well as some establishing background like the scenes during the party with Corkus and the others, by trimming down some shots. I'm guessing they really just wanted to get through the first movie quick instead of improving upon it, being the shortest and most problematic one in the trilogy, which was kind of the opposite of what I was expecting with this TV Edit in terms of potential improvements like the upcoming Bonfire of Dreams segment. All in all, the rest was nearly all the same. I find pretty funny how, with the cut dialogue in EP1 and cut scenes in this episode, this version of the movie trilogy which was advertised as adding more to the series has so far removed more than it's added. There's obviously still time for more additions to counterbalance that, but as of right now (in terms of both content and pacing) this is the least complete, most troubled version of the Golden Age. Even if this show adds more in subsequent episodes, it'll never be the definitive version of the movie trilogy that was advertised. It somehow presented the movies content in a worse way rather than improving it. The animation changes are so small that I barely even count them as an improvement. By the end of this series I imagine majority opinion will agree this is the worst version of the Golden Age, despite some of the good things about it. This series also makes evident a lot of the problems the films had with pacing and how much content it skipped. It's easier to ignore in the movie format, but when you're able to directly compare he first 3 episodes to what, the first 8 episodes of the 1997 show? It makes it so evident how surface-level it makes Berserk. The 1997 show skipped some content, but it can still be a very good first experience with Berserk. I can't say the same about the movies and especially not for this recut. |
PowerplantJohn said: Danpmss said: Huh, they covered all the rest of the movie in one go, cutting some scenes in the process. Not a perfect episode port in this edited version, since we lose nuances of body language and characterization for Charlotte (which was already a weaker compared to the manga and 97 anime), as well as some establishing background like the scenes during the party with Corkus and the others, by trimming down some shots. I'm guessing they really just wanted to get through the first movie quick instead of improving upon it, being the shortest and most problematic one in the trilogy, which was kind of the opposite of what I was expecting with this TV Edit in terms of potential improvements like the upcoming Bonfire of Dreams segment. All in all, the rest was nearly all the same. I find pretty funny how, with the cut dialogue in EP1 and cut scenes in this episode, this version of the movie trilogy which was advertised as adding more to the series has so far removed more than it's added. There's obviously still time for more additions to counterbalance that, but as of right now (in terms of both content and pacing) this is the least complete, most troubled version of the Golden Age. Even if this show adds more in subsequent episodes, it'll never be the definitive version of the movie trilogy that was advertised. It somehow presented the movies content in a worse way rather than improving it. The animation changes are so small that I barely even count them as an improvement. By the end of this series I imagine majority opinion will agree this is the worst version of the Golden Age, despite some of the good things about it. This series also makes evident a lot of the problems the films had with pacing and how much content it skipped. It's easier to ignore in the movie format, but when you're able to directly compare he first 3 episodes to what, the first 8 episodes of the 1997 show? It makes it so evident how surface-level it makes Berserk. The 1997 show skipped some content, but it can still be a very good first experience with Berserk. I can't say the same about the movies and especially not for this recut. It will heavily depend on what will be added and/or omitted. If nothing else is taken away, the inclusion of the Bonfire of Dreams chapter alone would make this the better version of the movie content even now (what was cut was nothing major and mostly just trimming for pacing, which unfortunately includes small shots in this episode that made some difference in the already lacking characterization of the movies). |
DanpmssOct 16, 2022 12:53 AM
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| Great episode. It's nice experiencing this story again. I forgot how beautiful this film can look most of the time when there isn't a big battle. Even the battle with the soldiers looked good enough in this episode because it took place at night. |
DinoPapiro said: Rasco said: Honestly same. I have read the golden age arc 3 times and i never got why Guts has that reaction in that specific scene, and why he was looking for Griffith after doing what he agreed to in the first place. That part of their relationship always rubbed me the wrong way, sometimes it looks like Guts has 100% trust in Griffith and seconds later the mood completly changes.I still don't understand why guts was so triggered. Caska took it well since she was already replaced with guts lolz. Griffith was merely flexing in front of a gal. Most bro's do that and we understand immediately. No hard feelings. I still think the Golden Age is a masterful arc and one of my favs, thats the only thing i dont really get Because up o this point he thought him and Griffith were good friends but this was the moment he realised he was simply being used. |
| adonis death was so painful when i first read the manga, the horrible way he died and how he wasn't able to fulfil his father wishes, goddamn just sadness. Anime did a great job to bring it to life. |
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| It actually doesn't look that bad outside of action scenes. Also, I think they did a great job adapting the scene where Griffith talks about what he thinks a friend should be, showing Griffith at the top, unaware of Guts who is down at the bottom, injured. Pacing sucks though, and does take away a bit of the impact from the scene. |
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| Good episode! Damn I remember reading this is manga and I still think Adonis death was really fucking sad and cruel... |
| Sorry for my english xD! RIP Kentaro Miura :( RIP Akira Toriyama :(  |
| One of the most important moments of the saga. Guts killing Adonis still has its effect even after all his years. This gratuitous murder (yes Guts could have slipped out of the window where he entered without being seen) is also the first where he kills an innocent child which will leave a lasting mark on him. For the discussion between Griffith and Charlotte, we must always keep in mind that he is a narcissistic manipulator with everyone except Guts precisely. He is the only being with whom he is completely honest, which will have consequences later on. |
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perseii said: Thanks for the great reply, truly :)Mariklyn said: With out going in philosophical rant watch the opening scene with Griffith and Guts. Then compare it to the dialogue of Griffith and Charlotte. (Philopsical Rant in 3..2.. 1...) In a lot of ways Guts has taken the position of Casca as when Griffith first saw Guts and revealed a side to him that Casca had never experienced. Now Guts is playing second fiddle to some princess. I'm also under the belief that Guts snapped because of all the repeated warnings his teammates told him. I.e- about only wanting to kill/use his sword. Edit- I should mention the conversation with the Princess and the G man was a private one. I do not believe Griffith had knew that his subordinates were listening in on him. Very good point on comparing the two conversations here. In the beginning of the episode, Griffith basically spells it out for Guts: "do I need a reason to risk myself for your sake?" Fast-forward to this scene between Griffith and Charlotte, Griffith is basically saying "I don't have a reason to risk myself for anybody, including Guts". If I hear contradictory statements about me when I'm in the room versus when I'm not, I will definitely get more hung up on what was said when I'm not around... Rasco said: I still don't understand why guts was so triggered. Caska took it well since she was already replaced with guts lolz. Griffith was merely flexing in front of a gal. Most bro's do that and we understand immediately. No hard feelings. DinoPapiro said: Honestly same. I have read the golden age arc 3 times and i never got why Guts has that reaction in that specific scene, and why he was looking for Griffith after doing what he agreed to in the first place. That part of their relationship always rubbed me the wrong way, sometimes it looks like Guts has 100% trust in Griffith and seconds later the mood completly changes. I still think the Golden Age is a masterful arc and one of my favs, thats the only thing i dont really get I feel Guts' reaction to be fairly understandable. Simply put, Guts has always considered Griffith as a close friend, in a pure and puppy-dog sort of way, and he imagined that Griffith regarded him in a similar way. And now Guts is realizing that might not necessarily be true. I think this scene would have hit the character of Guts especially hard. Griffith and the Band of the Hawk are the only decent human connections he's had in his life, and he only recently started to believe that he is liked by someone and is important to someone. At this point in the story, Griffith is probably the only one Guts considers his "friend", and the biggest reason Guts continues fighting. And given the fact that Griffith has already risked his life and dream multiple times to save Guts, and given their heart-to-heart conversations, Guts would have been imagining Griffith also considered him a friend. It would have been difficult for Guts to just brush off this comment. It would have been difficult and out-of-character for Guts to be more understanding, thinking "he's trying to impress this girl", for example. Guts is not a complicated guy. He takes things at face value and does not tend to "read between the lines" or "pick up on the little things" (that's Judeau's job :P). The character of Griffith is something of a mystery, which probably complicates matters more. Most other characters see him as something more than an ordinary man, and no one can really claim to have him figured out. We the audience also see many different sides to the character. It's not surprising to me that Guts is now thinking he hasn't understood Griffith at all. Recent events would also have been challenging Guts view on their friendship. Guts has recently started to notice the widening gap between Griffith's path and his own. Earlier in the story, Guts and Griffith were more or less guys fighting together on the battlefield. But now, Griffith is surrounded by nobles and courting a princess, and Guts is... still swinging his sword; they can't even meet up whenever they want to anymore. A few hours ago, Guts just carried out an assassination under Griffith's orders. Initially, Guts did 100% trust Griffith and wanted to help his friend. He even half-jokingly told Griffith, "you could just order me, you know". But as he actually carries it out, he realizes only then how much of a dirty work Griffith was asking of him. And as it goes horribly wrong, it shakes him to his core (especially so considering his violent childhood, which the show sadly omitted; in the manga, remember he even has a dream where he sees himself as a demon). My guess is that he's having hard time keeping it together and wants to talk to someone. And now, the author sets the scene on a staircase and put Griffith at the top, with Griffith looking towards his dream, not even aware of Guts, who is down the stairs, injured and dirty. Guts understands that he cannot approach Griffith at this time. Guts hears Griffith specifically say that he despises people who simply follow orders. I'd say all of this really hammers home to Guts the feeling of "we are not on the same level, not even close" and "he doesn't really see me as a friend". I think the impact of this moment trickles down throughout the entire story and is given even more context later on. Notably, Guts starts contemplating what his own dream is, i.e. the bonfire of dreams, and this question affects many of Guts' big decisions. I really like this scene in the manga, and thought the episode did a great job adapting it, so wanted to share how I see it. |
| What shocked Guts so much? That Griffith was actually using him while not really considering him a friend? |
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RobertBobert said: What shocked Guts so much? That Griffith was actually using him while not really considering him a friend? Spoilers just in case you are not familiar with the plot: |
DanpmssOct 17, 2022 4:32 AM
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| omg! for me another great episode! the pacing and turn of events was just perfect! 5/5. |
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Danpmss said: RobertBobert said: What shocked Guts so much? That Griffith was actually using him while not really considering him a friend? Spoilers just in case you are not familiar with the plot: I already watched the original anime, thanks. |
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| This is where it really starts for Griffith and Guts' dark path with both of their current mental state where Guts needs to do things by himself to be recognized by Griffith instead of being used and mentally weakened (since we all know how was his past so it doesn't help) with his orders (and the kid's death is still shocking) while Griffith is slowly sealing himself by saying that Guts through the fountain monologue and how being closer and closer to the princess with causing his despair (with what's happening with her later because Guts applied what Griffith said). |
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| oh god this is the point where it all starts.... |
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Danpmss said: It will heavily depend on what will be added and/or omitted. If nothing else is taken away, the inclusion of the Bonfire of Dreams chapter alone would make this the better version of the movie content even now (what was cut was nothing major and mostly just trimming for pacing, which unfortunately includes small shots in this episode that made some difference in the already lacking characterization of the movies). Assuming they don't censor sex and rape scenes? Also, considering pacing so far, you might end up with Bonfire in the next episode. |
Stardrake said: Danpmss said: It will heavily depend on what will be added and/or omitted. If nothing else is taken away, the inclusion of the Bonfire of Dreams chapter alone would make this the better version of the movie content even now (what was cut was nothing major and mostly just trimming for pacing, which unfortunately includes small shots in this episode that made some difference in the already lacking characterization of the movies). Assuming they don't censor sex and rape scenes? Also, considering pacing so far, you might end up with Bonfire in the next episode. After doing the math, I think it'll probably be episode 5, maybe episode 6. There isn't enough time to cover the whole battle next episode, the climax of the fight can only occur in episode 5. Whether or not it'll be paced for Bonfire of Dreams in one episode or 2 kind of depends. Speaking of math, I realized now why they used the AMV in the beginning of episode 2 - the movie's run-time couldn't be cleanly split into episodes, without more added content there'd have been an awkward cut where one episode would transition from movie 1 to 2, and then it'd have to end the episode before anything meaningful could happen in movie 2. What I'm saying is, I think there might be more of those pre-episode AMV sequences to make the end of the episodes synch up with the end of each film. Maybe not for the episodes during movie 2 since we know there's a few added scenes that could fill up the run-time, but since the third movie doesn't have any confirmed new content at all there's a chance for at least one more. That'd be pretty embarrassing, having multiple AMVs in a series to make up for time... in a series that's supposed to memorialize the works of one of the greatest mangaka ever. Like, holy shit that would suck. |
| blue whale ultra heavy armored fierce assault annihilation knight corp okay then... |
| Poor Adonis... This scene hits the same each time, whether you see it in the anime or in the manga. Pacing felt weird during this episode's first half. Later it was better. It felt exactly the same to me when I was watching the movie. |
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